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ZBA Hearing - March 12, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 12, 20255h 59m

we are tax compliant. First things first is our notice of refusal. This is an RSA 5 property,

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but I believe in name only. It's a rather large lot of, what's the lot size? 1,960 square feet.

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We're looking to put four units in here. And as you'll see in the plans and drawings, each of the

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units have its own front door. There is no basement living. That was one of our provisos

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you'll review. We got rid of the basement living. We got rid of the egress wells as well.

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The basement is only for mechanical storage only. We have three refusals. First is the use of the

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property. We're asking for four units. This is an RSA 5 property. We'll see further along in

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the presentation that this property has a history for four-family use. And in addition to that,

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the properties next door to us are also multifamily in nature now because of approvals

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and their density is greater per square foot than our density and we'll go over that as well

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our height where 38 feet is allowed we're proposing 40 feet again we are in conformance

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to neighboring properties that have been approved previously by way of the city and we'll review that

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as well later on in the presentation. And then our occupied area, our request is de minimis in

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nature, where we're seeking 32 extra square feet in lot size, but our backyard is almost 18 feet

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in depth, which is actually deeper than the property to the left of us as well. So in actuality,

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we provide more light in there than even properties that are next to us, and we'll discuss that as

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well letter of support we met with the community unanimous support and you know they referenced

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that one nearby neighbor the reason why i reached out to that neighbor we reached out to that

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neighbor mr khan has done other projects in southwest there was some discussion about some

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issue he had with one of those properties with a next door neighbor about completing the sidewalk

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we brokered obviously a resolution in that regard to make sure that the sidewalk was completely

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redone at Mr. Khan's cost. And then the neighbor showed up and said, yes, Mr. Khan does the right

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thing. And I support him because he's a man of his words. And then again, before there was living in

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the basement, we didn't think it was appropriate, especially after the community comment. So we are

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removing the living in the basement, removing the egress wells, and removing the basement living.

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and we would agree to a proviso on top of that in terms of basement living, no living in the

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basement. And this is our revised plans. Letter of support. This was from the next door neighbor

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of another project that Mr. Khan did. Again, there was some discussion previously of had this

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neighbor having an issue. Mr. Khan dealt with him appropriately, responsibly, and now supports

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this other project, which is nearby. Property history. So as you can see here, this property

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has a long history of multifamily use for units. Nearby RSA five properties, which are also

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multifamily in nature, 5220 Chester Avenue. This is a 15 unit building with commercial on the ground

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floor. And, you know, which would, you know, we don't think it's appropriate to put commercial

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here on the ground floor. This is an RSA five property, which would require an even more of a

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variance, but it's also 41 feet in height. So again, we're asking to have 40 feet in height,

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so a lesser variance, but also follows the roof line of the nearby properties. And then 5216-18

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Chester Avenue, that's a nine unit building, 41 feet in height, also commercial on the ground

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for. Per square foot, our property is 490 square feet of lot size for each unit. These other

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properties are either 451 square feet per lot size per unit or 397 square feet of lot size per

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unit. From a density perspective, we are less dense than those other properties.

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Area view of the property. So this is an older view, but I got this off of Google Earth because

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the at least this building is almost built like at least the structure is but there's a a 40 unit

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apartment a 45 unit apartment building here on chester avenue and then there's these rather

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avenue and then there's these rather two large multi-family buildings so it would be out of

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two large multi-family buildings so it would be out of character

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character to require us to have a single family lot where you have these two other rather large

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apartment buildings with height and everything else that we're seeking is in line with what they

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have maps of the area again you know we are rsa5 we're rather large lot but there is multi-family

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on that block both as a right and by way of variance and then again we're on the bus line

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as well so again would you would think that we would be allowed to have multi-family here plus

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it's a corner property from a city planning perspective you know having multi-units is is

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a reasonable request plus the history of the property as well as four units photographs of

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the property so this is the front of the property from chester avenue from south lindenwood street

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this property has been vacant as far back as you can go on google street view at 2000 you know 2007

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this is the nearby structure well these are hearing notice posters but you can see this

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nearby building structure is is at least the shell of it is complete and it's rather large

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in nature while our rear yard setback is 18 feet theirs is only nine feet so they're actually

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blocking some of our light in there in in that respect but we are getting a refusal because our

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property doesn't go as deep as their property and this is chester avenue to the right of the property

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to the left of the property, South Lindenwood Street to the right of the property, and to the

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left of the property. Our plans and drawings, again, Chris Johnson of 24-7 Design, the architect's

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representative, is here, but what they envisioned doing was to have the traditional brick facade,

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many windows, so each of the bedrooms, living areas, have windows in them. Again, no living in

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the basement, but you're going to see four doors here, one for each unit. Also, to kind of mask

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the height of the building, we try to do a change in color of materials as well.

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And then again, these are our floor plans, but you can see the four front doors, unit

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one front door, unit two front door, unit three front door, unit four front door.

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Unit one and two are bi-levels.

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I mean, there is access to the basement, but again, no window wells, and we would agree

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to a proviso, no living in the basement.

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uh but this is a two bedroom two and a half bath of 1198 square feet as you can see here

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there's many windows in all the living areas nice little uh open floor plan for units one and units

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two oops wrong way and then for the second floor is where you have the two bedrooms and the

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bathrooms uh trash uh would be stored outside so that will be another proviso because we take

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advantage of the fact that we're a rear property but this these are units one and two to get to

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units three and four you have front doors unit three unit four and i don't know i keep going

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backwards but like here is the same type of floor plan you have an open floor plan of a kitchen

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a dining room and a living room you can see windows throughout same thing for unit number four

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and it's a bi-level unit where you have the bedrooms up top and you can see there's ample

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windows for all the bedrooms and that that's where the bathrooms are as well rco meeting notice we

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met met with the community on march 4th at 6 p.m this is proof of email of that notice that we sent

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a few weeks ahead of time to give them notification that not only did we mail the notice but you know

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i mean that we sent out the notice but we mailed it and here's the proof of mailing the notice

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to 126 addresses these are the addresses proof of mailing to those addresses or application

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for appeal that we filed on behalf of con properties one llc along with the notice of

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refusal the project information form the deed to the property showing the con properties llc is

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the owner of the property and then filing the certificate of tax clearance while there shows

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There's a balance of $692.90.

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That money is not owed until March 31st of 2025.

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I will stop sharing my screen.

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I would ask that Sabas virtually raise his hand and be sworn in.

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Chair, I see no one by that name.

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Okay. Alan, you're an officer of the court. We'll gladly take your testimony.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board.

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Yes. Question. There's no basement living.

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No basement. We do not show any basement living, and we would be happy to accept a proviso of no basement living.

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Okay. Thank you.

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question well the bi-level unit did include that did assume the basement as part of the bi-level

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question well the bi-level unit did include that did assume the base

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it did originally it did and you know speaking to my client i indicated why would you need

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three floors for living i think two are enough and then after speaking to the community i you

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know he changed his mind okay questions or comments from our attorney hillary emerson

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just to clarify on the revised plans it still shows unit one and two in the basement are those

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are they the only ones that have access to the basement that's right that's why it's showed as

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part of their unit okay all right just wanted to clarify that thank you questions or comments

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from the audience for the virtual audience chair we have jeremy blatstein they're coming back in

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as a panelist now.

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Okay.

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His name is Jeremy.

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Yes, Jeremy Blatstein.

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Mr. Blackstone, please unmute yourself.

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Hi, Jeremy.

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Can he unmute?

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chair he might have an outdated version of zoom because there's no option for him to unmute

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okay is there anyone else in the audience chair we have lavar clark and they're coming back in

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as a panelist now okay lavar could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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LaVar?

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LaVar, please unmute yourself.

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Yes, I'm unmuted.

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LaVar, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Name is LeVar Clark, L as in Larry, E as in Edward, V as in Victor, A as in Apple, R as in Robert, Clark, C-L-A-R-K.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Are you a neighbor?

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Yes, I am.

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Please proceed.

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Yes, I am the direct neighbor right next door to this development.

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The developments that Mr. Alan Nockleson mentioned of 5216 to 5224 are my developments.

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I have been in communication with Alan Nockleson last year when this particular parcel came up for a board hearing.

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We talked about some issues.

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Mr. Nockleson at that time mentioned that he would let me know about the next community meeting that would actually happen in regards to some of the issues that we presented.

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I wasn't informed of that particular community meeting. I found out late yesterday that they actually had it and that the ZBA board hearing was today.

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This is why I'm here to address some of the issues and concerns about this particular development.

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I've been, yes, I've been in front of, I'm sorry.

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Go ahead, please proceed.

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Yes, I've been in front of the board last year with the developments that I have next door.

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okay um met with the community plenty of times uh community community meetings a lot of the people

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know me miss allen knows me personally as i've talked to him and had meetings with him previous

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on other issues um we were approved for those developments next door to give you a quick

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history there are only six lots on that particular block between lindenwood and uh wilton street we

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were approved i own five of them so 5216 to 5224 chester avenue are all owned by me which were all

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approved for mixed use. You have 52 direct next doors, 52 20 to 24, which is a 15-unit mixed-use

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property, which is going to have commercial on the first floor. And then 52 16 to 18, which is

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also a mixed-use property, which also is going to have commercial on the first floor. This particular

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block currently right now, as it's projected, already has about 24 residential units coming

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on it. Also, what he mentioned, 5200 Chester Avenue has 45 residential units, 4,500 residential

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units, and 5200 Chester Avenue doesn't have any commercial. The reason why we actually set out on

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this block to do commercials is because we wanted to have amenity space for the community.

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When Ms. Allison presented his poor case, I explained to him that it makes sense to do

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commercial on the first floor, even though I know he has an RSA 5 zoning, the least restrictive use

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of that would be a duplex. And I explained to him, if it's four units going to come, it should be

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some commercial space, knowing that there are 70 plus units coming on this particular block

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units coming on this particular block in this particular area and also future developments

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in this particular area. And also

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that are actually coming through this particular area. That mixed use for amenity standpoint for

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the growth of that particular community to me would be much more warranted. I explained that

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to Mr. Opsen. He said he would sit down with me and try to work out something that would be

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beneficial for the community and for everyone that was involved. I didn't get a call even though I

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I have his personal number. I did not get a call for that, that the newest community meeting,

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even though I knew about the first one that was postponed. I'm just asking that the board looks

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at this actual proposal and understand what is actually best for the community, looking at the

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precedent that was already set on the block by me in the previous zoning hearings in regards to the

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other five parcels that are actually on this block. And, sir, you didn't know about the RCO

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meeting no he i was not informed about this this new rco meeting that was that was handed from i

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understand it was it was last week the gentleman that he mentions um that gave a a right of a

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approval for 5307 chester avenue i know about that particular parcel because at one time i owned that

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parcel and sold it to the new owner right he's the one that informed me that there was a community

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meeting that was held right and i never got notification and i see it was it was 14 to zero

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and Pharaoh. It was 14-0, but I'm the one next door that is directly impacted and is also looking

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to change. But I wasn't informed, and even though Al Knoxon knew, because I talked to him before the

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first time about the actual community, and he was gracious at that time to say that I talked to him

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and tried to address concern before he was blindsided at the zoning board, but also informed

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me that he would let me know about the next community meeting that was going to happen in

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regard before this time, but I was never informed. All right. Thank Mr. Clark. Thank you for taking

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the time. And Alan, why don't, why don't I wait to see if there's anybody else? All right. And

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then we'll be soon. Is there anyone else in the virtual audience? I see no hands. I see no hands

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of this time, Chair. Yeah. Mr. Chair, I did reach out to Mr. Clark the first time. And during our

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discussions, he indicated that he was rather upset with my clients because my client developed

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at a property at next door to 5307 that he sold to Mr. Let me just make sure I have the name

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right. The one who signed the letter of support, Mr. Adolphs, and indicated, you need to make it

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right with this guy, because I'm really upset with the situation here. That's what we did.

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And during the community, and we got a letter of support. And this, the gentleman actually

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showed up at the meeting and voted in favor. And during the meeting, we talked about community

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benefits, and he mentioned Mr. Clark by his first name. Oh, yes, my client, Mr. Adolphs, and Mr. Clark

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would love to do community benefits. Our understanding was that that was what the ask was

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in terms of working through that. Mr. Clark did state that he thought it was more appropriate to

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have commercial on the ground floor. That would require an even greater variance that we're

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requesting. This is an RSA 5 property. And I understand Mr. Clark's position. He owns other

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properties on that block. But I'm looking at the zoning permit for 5220 Chester Avenue. Those were

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RSA 5 properties. He sought a commercial use. He can't then push it upon another property owner

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to also now seek a greater variance than that property owner wants to do, especially given the

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history of the property at four units. Same thing again with 5216-18 Chester Avenue. According to

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the zoning permit that's in front of me, that was mixed zoning of CMX2 and RSA5. Doesn't look like

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it had a calendar number, but that also had RSA5 zoning. Again, we respect the fact that Mr. Clark

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has developed in this neighborhood, but at the same time, we are asking that the board consider

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this application as the least modification possible requested under the philadelphia zoning code thank

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you very much thank you planning commission

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chairman thank you chairman and good afternoon david vecto with the city planning commission

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chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the rsa 5 residential

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