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ZBA Hearing - December 8, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Dec 8, 20205h 47m

and verna anastasia will be promoted as well thank you okay calendar number 2923

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1722 master street and calendar number 2921 1720 master street

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good afternoon

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um mary jones from council president daryl clark's office good afternoon mary is still

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under oath from this morning okay so it feels like so long ago um

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Today, our office requested this reconsideration because this was an oversight where the council

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president's opposition to the case should have been on, should have been presented to

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the board and it was not.

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Um, it, the community, um, voted unanimously to oppose this project, um, due to concerns

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about, um, increased density and lack of parking and just an overall, um, detriment to the

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neighborhood, um, with adding more and more multifamily, uh, units.

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and um so they reached out to our office to emphasize their opposition so we want to just

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make that clear on the record that uh the community does not um does not support these

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projects as as proposed and thank you uh mr anastasio thank you mr chairman uh should i put

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my name on the record name and address please yep it's verne anastasio a-n-a-s-t-a s-i-o 1315

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walnut street philadelphia pennsylvania 19107 that's suite uh 106 1006 and do you swear

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our firm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do okay i don't think we've

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wave and step on this, did we, Sharon?

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No.

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I'm not sure we have to.

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okay uh i'm i'm going to share my documents again you know the board uh acted correct correctly on

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Okay.

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I'm going to share my documents again.

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this uh at least that's my opinion and i will uh share with you why i think that

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if i can hold on please for one minute excuse me this is sharon saletta if we could also put

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on the record that all testimony and exhibits from the original hearing are incorporated

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Thank you Sharon. Thank you Ms. Solita. I'm going to share this again if I can. Hold on please.

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Okay. I'm guessing everyone sees what I'm about to share.

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yes yes we do thank you and i'll be very brief uh 1720 and 1722 master street

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uh the application was for the construction of two five family dwellings uh which we've gone

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through with uh with our plans and again because they've been uh they've been uh uh you know

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folded into the last hearing and they that still survives i don't think there's necessarily a reason

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to go into that but i do want to say again that i think the board uh and the planning commission

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ruled correctly in that these are lots on a block that is mostly vacant

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And as you can see, there are large chunks of empty land that is just completely empty.

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And that what we've had in the last, and here it is, we're talking about these two spots

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right here if you could see where my cursor is and then you could see that we still have large

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chunks of vacant fallow land not only adjacent to the subject property but all around the subject

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property just fallow land where in fact there is no development and no construction. I also want to

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make a point of saying that we do have, in fact, someone here who will testify as an expert

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witness. Before I get into the rest of the case, I would like, in fact, for Ilya to raise his hand

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and be acknowledged as a panelist so that we can have an expert witness who will testify

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that a single family home on this particular block

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just is not sustainable.

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So Ilya, if you could please do that.

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So Ms. Sunkit or whomever is handling recognition today

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can do that.

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He needs to be a panelist or just audio?

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Audio's fine, Ms. Sunkit.

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Audio's fine.

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But Ilya should be in the...

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Mr. Zamorin?

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Yes.

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Ilya Zamorin, that's correct.

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Correct.

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Mr. Zamorin, are you available?

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Yes.

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Yes, I am.

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Okay.

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Please place your name and address on for the record.

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Ilya Zamorin, 1801, Creekview Lane, Jamison, Pennsylvania, 18929.

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Okay.

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Mr. Zamorin, what's your profession?

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I am real estate agent in the city of Pennsylvania.

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Okay.

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And how many years have you been doing that?

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Over 14.

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Okay.

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And over the 14 years, are you familiar with the subject property and this particular census tract and neighborhood?

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Yes, I am.

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Okay. In your expert opinion, would a new construction single-family home development be marketable, economically viable option for sale at these particular two sites?

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No, it is not going to be viable at all.

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Okay. And I've already submitted as evidence your analysis as new evidence to the Zoning Board.

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Did you produce that analysis that's been submitted?

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And here it is right here.

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Yes.

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Excuse me. I just want to identify it so you see it.

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This comparative market analysis, did you create this, sir?

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This comparative mark.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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And you've done this relatively recently for the client?

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That's correct.

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Okay.

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And in your analysis, did you conclude that a new construction single-family residence would not be a viable option for sale in this community, on this block?

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That is correct.

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that's not going to be viable okay um excuse me counselor yeah would less than five units be viable

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yes okay thank you but more than one for certain um

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do you believe ilia that multi-family dwellings would be the highest and best use and most

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marketable for these particular sites yes mr anastasio i believe that's the best possible

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use for that particular location thank you very much i have no more questions for you thank you

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thank you i uh mr mr chairman and members of the board i i would like to un share this

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for a moment and if i can i'm going to try and share something else

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and i hope you can see this let's take a look at what the 1700 block of master street looks like

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if you don't mind. Same side as our street on 1720 and 1722. We have 1724, a legal five-family

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dwelling. 1726, a legal four-family dwelling that was just approved by this board a year ago.

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We have a legal 1728 three-family dwelling, 1730 three-family dwelling, 1714 another three-family

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dwelling that was just approved by this very board less than two weeks ago. Now let's go

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across the street because the rest of our street is nothing but a prairie. Across the street we

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have 1731, a three-family dwelling since 1942. 1729 is a three-family dwelling for the last two

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decades. 1727, a four-family dwelling since 2014. 1725 is a six-family dwelling since 1955.

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five. 1723, directly across the street, a five-family dwelling since 2011. 1721, again,

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directly across the street, four-family dwelling since 1973, and it was a five-family dwelling

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prior to 1973. 1719 and 1717, both a six-family dwelling since 83 and a five-family dwelling

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since 1977. There isn't a single, single family dwelling built not only recently, but in the last

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100 years on this block that still stands. So with that, I do believe that our proposal

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is completely consistent with the, you know, the, you know, with the conditions on the block,

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with the market realities. It's consistent with offering quality new construction

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at affordable prices for local buyers. And might I say, and this is just an aside,

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We all follow legislation that comes in and out with respect to construction.

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Just recently, as a city, we proposed a new construction tax to create new affordable housing.

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Here is affordable housing.

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Here are smaller units that are approachable price points for folks who live in the community.

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And there were no necessarily taxes that needed to be levied to do it.

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So I respectfully request that this board stand by its original decision, which was, this makes sense for this block.

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And thank you.

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Hey, thank you.

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Any questions, Mr. Anastasio?

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Yes, Mr. Chairman.

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Are you selling these units or renting them?

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These will be for sale.

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These will be for sale.

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Okay.

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Yeah, we've said that.

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We've said that from the get-go.

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These are going to be for sale.

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You know, they're nice, ample-sized units that can be for sale.

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Talk about affordable housing.

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This is it.

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Because if we built two single-family homes, they'd be anything but affordable.

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I submit to you that the evidence that I've already submitted that we didn't really go over too much

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was that for the cost that it took for them to acquire these lots

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and then to build on these lots,

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we'd be talking about homes that would be in the high fours.

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And that's not just something that they can observe.

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How's the purchase price of these lots?

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Over $200,000 per lot.

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And by the way, I would like to call, Mr. Chairman, if you don't mind,

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just for the record, Mr. Shapiro, if he wouldn't mind raising his hand so he could be acknowledged

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to accept and affirm my presentation. Mr. Shapiro, you've been unmuted. You can speak now.

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Please identify yourself, Mr. Shapiro, and I'll swear you in.

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yes this is richard shapiro can you hear me thank you richard richard can you put your name and

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address on for the record please sure richard shapiro address 15059 sunflower drive philadelphia

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pa 19116 richard is it fair and affirm to tell the truth the whole truth is nothing but the truth

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I do. Thank you. Richard, did you hear my presentation to the board today? I did.

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Okay. And I know it's not that different from the last time we've met at the end of October,

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but is it accurate and true to the best of your knowledge? Yes, absolutely. Okay. And do you

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accept it as your own testimony if need be? I do. Thank you very much. And did you purchase

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these properties for in excess of $200,000? Yes, I did. Approximately $215,000. Okay. And to build

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out single-family homes, would it not be in excess of another $200,000? It would easily be closer

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to $250,000 just to build out each home. And the $450,000 is just a break-even, probably.

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And based on all professional advice and inclination, including Mr. Zemmerin, would that not be a net loss for you on this?

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It would absolutely be a net loss.

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And not only that, but I would not even attempt it.

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And knowing this, I would not have ever bought the loss, to be honest with you.

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Okay.

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And when you purchased them, did you believe they were multifamily dwelling?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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okay can you speak a little just briefly on that uh yes we had originally purchased the lots

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from the previous owners uh who i believe had a uh a permit to do three units and considering the

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size of the lots uh we expected and what the board previously approved um considering the size of the

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lots five units would even be not only advisable uh allowable considering the size of the lots that

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fit it within the proper dimensions but also uh a home run basically for the community

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um so at the very least uh we were looking at multi-units and again uh and even though this

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is an aside mr shapiro did you not offer to fund a a street sweeping and litter removal program for

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the community on that block since there's so many multi-family dwellings yes we did that was in the

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RCO, they had brought up the fact that trash was a problem on the block. And that was one of the

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reasons that they also brought up that they preferred to have ownership on the block to

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help with that. And right away, we told them these are for sale. The intention is not to have rentals

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and that we would also include trash removal, private trash removal, if need be, if that's

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we'll get this project going.

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And of the 18 multifamily dwellings on the block currently,

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you would only be two, is that correct?

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That's right.

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Thank you.

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I have nothing else, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you again.

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Any questions from the board?

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Yeah.

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Why are five units the best use?

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Well, the lots are large, and just adjacent right next door, this board, this particular

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board approved a five-family dwelling right next door, and basically we're just mirroring

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what was presented several months ago

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what was presented uh several months ago uh with that particular uh uh development it's it's it's

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with that particular

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a large lot and we can get um five six seven hundred square foot units at an approachable

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price point and i'm gonna and i i know i beat this drum a lot uh and i i don't mean to be a broken

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record, but we talk so much about wanting to have affordable housing in neighborhoods,

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but we are so reticent on approving multifamily dwellings.

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And here are one and two bedroom condos that can be gotten by folks in the neighborhood

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at approachable price points.

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But in order to do that, we need to embrace the multifamily unit.

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Mr. Anastasio, I know you're a client.

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What is the projected price point for each of these units?

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Thank you.

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Mr. Shapiro?

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Approximately.

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That's a good question.

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That's above my pay grade, but I'll ask.

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