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ZBA Hearing - June 18, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jun 18, 20252h 17m

out on the stove.

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I'm sorry.

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The stove on the first floor.

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Nothing in the basement.

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It was the first floor apartment that stove malfunction.

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It was just smoke.

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Just smoke.

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I'm sorry.

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Fire meaning it was, yeah, just the second air of smoke.

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And when the fire department had come, they wanted to know.

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They ran it, told them, legalize it into it.

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Well, he actually thought it was him and his wife because they're not too savvy in the real estate or legalization.

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It was brought up to legalize it from a Packer Park associate.

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an attorney okay and how many units are you managing for them total they own about 75 right

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now they own 75 properties but they don't know much about real estate they just buy them

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rental rental licenses for all the properties everything's legal except this one was the last

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one and they don't have rental licenses not on this one all the others have rental licenses yes

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everything else is legal suitability led everything and these were hand but these were

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handed down to him by his father had passed away so can you walk us through because in your

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testimony you mentioned there being a one bedroom over a one bedroom but this is now a three-story

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residence could you walk us through what's happening on each floor okay can you pull up

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Can you pull up that?

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I'm assuming the photos that...

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I'm assuming the photos that your attorney pulled up

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were from the basement unit

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because that's the basement apartment, the one-bedroom?

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Two beds.

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Second and third floor, Anthony.

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Pull them up for me, please.

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I can't sit on my glasses.

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No, but go back to the photo show.

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which way once

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that one before was

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that's the one next door

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that's the basement

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this is the basement

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yes

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you sure

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yeah because I think there's the egress

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windows right there

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hold on one second I want to put my

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that doesn't look like a basement

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that's the second floor actually

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yeah that's the second floor

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I think the one that was dark

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is probably the basement

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yes that's the basement

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that's probably the basement

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is the only egress

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from the basement the walkout

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door at the front of the property

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no

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yes

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does the basement have direct access to the backyard

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yes

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it does

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do you have a photo of the access to the backyard

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well

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No, I don't have access to the backyard because that would be a code issue with the building.

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If he gets approved and he needs to put two means of egress in, he has no problem doing it in the rear.

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I believe it's there, though, because the white fence is right there.

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Okay, so right now, you cannot access the backyard from the basement unit?

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No, you can walk in the basement unit and walk out the back.

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He's saying he's not. He don't have a picture of it.

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I don't have a picture of it. I didn't think that was irrelevant.

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Have you been to the property?

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Yes, I've been to the property.

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So if I'm in the basement, is there a back door that allows me to walk from the basement?

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Yes, right out to the back there.

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Hold on, hold on, Anthony. One second. Tell me if this makes it more clear, sir.

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Yes, thank you.

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Yes, yes, thank you, counsel.

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I'm sorry.

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So the exit's underneath the deck?

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Yes.

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other questions from the board

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I doubt that you have headroom to come out

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of that basement with that deck

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there doesn't appear to

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be appropriate headroom

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but so you get

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out of it okay

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I'm six foot and I got

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16 years people living there they come out

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to that

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here's the property next door

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Anthony listen to me Anthony

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you testify there's somebody else

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testifying I'm not sure who it is

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just you testify at this point right okay this is the next door property any other questions

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no questions no other questions questions or comments more attorney

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not at this time questions or comments from the virtual audience

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i see no hints at this time chair planning commission

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amy boy with the planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no change

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in zoning from the existing RSA 5 residential single family.

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The appellant has not demonstrated that there are unique physical conditions or circumstances

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of the property that would prevent it from being used in conformance with the zoning

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code. The Planning Commission recommends that the board deny the requested variance

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for two family. Mr. Consul, I'm going to hold this to next Wednesday.

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I just want to talk this through. One way or the other way, we'll vote

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next Wednesday for you at 930. Thank you.

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but we're ready for number five

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number five mi 2025 000 473 4838 hawthorne street shermala gambrel is the owner applicant

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this application is for two-family household living in an existing structure the proposed

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use two-family household living is prohibited in the rsa 5 zoning district there's unanimous

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support from the frankfurt cdc and a letter of non-opposition from council member lazada

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um would you please state your name it's spelled for the stenographer hi my name is sherema gambrel

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s-h-a-r-e-m-a-h-g-a-m-b-r-e-l do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth

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nothing but the truth yes why don't we start your presentation okay so i'm looking to turn my family

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home into a duplex, which is in a zoning area just for a single family. Our surrounding areas

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are zoned for having duplexes in the area. And I just want to turn my home into a two-family home.

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a um two-family home okay why don't we

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Okay. Why don't we...

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the basement no living in the basement so no is no one is vacant is no living in the basement um

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we're going to try to use that uh that area i guess for storage right now yeah so um it is

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two entrances i was just looking at the last case but there's an entrance in the back um of the home

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so you would be able to get entered through the back and then there's answering here some photos

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um i thought they were attached here i'm sorry

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okay so this is the home it's been vacant my father passed away in the home six years ago

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okay so um i inherited the home from um my grandfather who was the original owner but

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he passed away two years prior to my father so it's kind of just been sitting and um it's an

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eyesore for the neighborhood because it's kind of falling apart a tree fell on it and I had to get

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that removed I'm a single mother so me just trying to pay for two properties and getting nothing in

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return is just like it's not good for us and then we just want to make the community look better

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we want to provide more homes in a community and just to make our situation better could you tell

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me the rest of the block are there many duplexes there so on harrison street there are more but

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that's like right at the end of the block maybe two doors down there's a duplex um it used to

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be a duplex right next door i'm not sure about zoning do you have a picture of the front of the

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house um yes it is down there so you're gonna have to go in and just pretty much got the place

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everything

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it should be on here

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I hope they went through

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but this is the back of the home

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is that a vacant lot next to you

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yes

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that's where the tree fell from

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on the property

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that's the side of the home

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how long has the house been in the family

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since the 60s 1967 I believe and I grew up in that house when I was five this is the front of

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the home that house right there next door the pink home it used to be a duplex um is that vacant now

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No, someone actually bought it. I'm not sure what it is now, but someone bought it a few years ago.

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So you're going to go in the front door and then you'll go straight up the stairs to the second floor and make a right into the apartment, right?

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Okay. All right. Questions from the board. Yeah. So are you going to testify?

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Jason Dawkins

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J-E-S-O-N

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D-A-W-K-I-N-S

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I'm a relative

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this is our grandfather's home

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hold on one hour before you

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do you swear or affirm to tell the truth

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the whole truth nothing but the truth

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I do

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Mr. Dawkins thank you for coming in we appreciate it

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can we zoom out the plan

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is that possible

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is this a corner unit

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is it a corner

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no it's mid block

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it's semi detached

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oh gotcha okay all right

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can we zoom in a little bit like yeah that's good

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too much but i think it's okay basement's going to be storage it looks like there's a one bedroom

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apartment on the on the first floor and then you've got a bi-level unit on the second and

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third floors yeah that's the plan i think it's i think they showed two on the first floor

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so basements yeah first floor has how many bedrooms two two and the second floor is going

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to be two bedrooms can we see this the first floor please thank you this property has three floors

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y'all it's there's an attic and

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there's nothing up on the third floor has there ever been anything on the third floor

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you see the pictures

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okay and then are you going to set it up

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where they both have access to the rear yard

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yes and then only the second floor has access to the attic and only the first floor has access to the basement

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yes okay where is the trash going to be stored for your tenants

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on the side of the home

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next to the baker box yes

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how do you access the attic

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so

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is there a stairwell or is it like

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is there a stairwell or is it like it's full stairs it's open stairs here as of now it's open

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it's full stairs

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open stairs yeah as of now it's open stairs

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stairs so it is livable space it's a place yeah it's just low ceiling slope soon i'm trying

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is the attic closed off or is it so like if you go up there are there walls and closing it as a

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room yes so one of those pictures were the 80. one of oh okay but you don't have any intentions of

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use in the attic for the second floor park yes we we should be able to hopefully yes

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yeah i think i think here it is that's the attic right there so it's huge i mean this could be

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i was just commenting because this could be a better part of the space

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okay yeah i think it goes by windows or something like that but i'm just trying to talk that's part

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of it and there's a closet up there but no bathroom it's a full space right there through

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that brown door yeah it's a full space in there too like okay well you got a lot of work i recommend

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you hire an art yes a whole lot of work yeah a higher uh architect to work with you on a plan

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that that works if we approve this going forward because you need that it's a lot of work it is

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it's realistic other questions for the board

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questions from our attorney

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not at this time mr chair why should your comments from the audience from the virtual

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audience or the well there's no one left here so the virtual audience i see no hands at this time

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chair planning commission amy boyb with the planning commission the comprehensive plan

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recommends no change in zoning at this location from the existing rsa 5 residential single family

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This property is 2,627 square feet.

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