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ZBA Hearing - September 18, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 18, 20245h 49m

The RCO, was it SOSNA?

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Yes, it was SOSNA and then also there was NOAA, the north

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of Washington, and they were both 100% in support

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And we also had both of our adjacent neighbors, the ones that are attached to our properties, they attended to the meeting and they spoke in highly support of the project.

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Okay, and this is their standard that they support the design with the mansard?

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Yes, they had some recommendations for us to make some modifications, but they recommend the mansard.

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Why don't you say what the modifications were?

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They asked us to change some of the material choices that we had on the front and then on that mansard.

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And then also we had shown different size windows and they wanted us to do a uniform window sizes.

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So we did those changes and we responded to all of their requests and we were able to change that and incorporate that into the project.

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requests and we were able to change that and incorporate that into the project thank you

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the questions from the board

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questions or comments from our attorney

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i'm sorry i i was on mute i'm sorry do we have a uh floor plan for uh what's going to be in this

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space? Yes, I can share that now. This would be the third story that we're adding. This is the

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eight feet in the front here. If you can see, it would be an additional bedroom space.

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That two bedrooms? Yes, on the third story, there would be two bedrooms and then one bathroom

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that's being added any other questions from the board then on the second floor

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do so did you show the second floor i didn't see it i'm sorry sure yes i can go back

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this is showing the first story if you can see the existing stairs at eight foot five

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and then the second story is being modified to add the stair we're stacking the stair

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above and then there will be two smaller bedrooms gotcha yep all right thanks

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questions or comments from our attorney hillary emerson

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not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

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yes chair charles richards no charles richardson hand went back down there's a person with the

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first name naseba will be allowed to speak okay um naseba is up here for another case i am

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answering their questions in the chat they are not here for this case okay thank you

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there are no more hands chair planning commission

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good morning everyone i report with the planning commission amy boyd

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the existing zoning of residential single-family RSA 5.

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The proposed variance is in keeping with the surrounding neighborhoods and the spirit of the zoning code.

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The Planning Commission recommends the Board grant the requested variance for third-story setback.

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I 2024-002-524-2124 St. Albans Street. I vote yes with proviso. Revised plans, one page,

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stamped by CBA on September 18, 2024. Michael Johns, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes with proviso.

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my vote is yes with proviso

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Tanada Graham my vote is yes with proviso

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Ishmael Shaheen my vote is yes with proviso

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thank you you have your votes

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thank you for your time this morning we appreciate it

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thank you thank you number 15

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MI 2024-002-709

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4511 Samson Street

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Tony Liang is the owner-applicant.

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It's a pro se.

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Tony Liang has been promoted.

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Good morning.

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Good morning, sir.

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mr liang

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okay hi mr liang could you turn on your video first of all yeah that's what i yeah no no mr

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Mr. Liang, Mr. Liang, could you turn on your video?

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Yeah, I thought I turned on the video.

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How would we promote you?

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I've already sworn you in, so.

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This application is to enclose the front porch under the existing porch roof as part of an existing attached structure for continued use as a single-family household living.

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Whereas the proposed enclosed front porch with zero setback is prohibitive in the RSA 5 zoning district because the adhesion principle structures have setbacks.

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Our vice chair has a few questions, sir.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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Good morning, Mr. Leon.

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Have you emailed all the required documents and exhibits that's needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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five days in advance of this hearing

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uh sorry have you said all your documents

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Uh, sorry.

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yeah can i can you repeat the question sorry uh can you not very sure have you sent in all your

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documents yes yes okay thank you please proceed uh share your screen okay

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is the green button at the bottom of the screen there you go yeah can you see this this is the

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we have that please proceed we have that you have that so i just go to the the last one is the

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statement we see all your documents okay hold on hold on we want to see the photos okay oh

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yeah uh these are the photos we take this three different time uh and the three different time

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that uh cover the whole period and this is the picture that the other uh neighbor they have

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also enclosed the porch yeah you know just one just one testify okay go ahead you're

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right so the pictures you're showing now are other neighbors who have already enclosed their porch

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yeah there's three houses here these two are connect and this is another very new one they

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probably just finished construction a couple months ago and and show us your property

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and here is our property

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right there's your property yeah this is the one and here is the property so it's all the same

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uh include the other three they all have a porch they all the same structure and same street

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so the other two the other three already enclosed and we just the fourth one and apply for

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enclose there's three places on the on the block already that already enclosed yeah there was

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another street and you're and you're looking to enclose your property at 4511 samson yeah just

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look just have drawings you have hold on do you have drawings of what you want to do

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yeah the drawing is in the application could we see that yeah let me see where

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or here

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yeah here is the drawing I think here and they enclosed this area right so just like the the

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other so that's why the arguments that when we enclose this it didn't change the line from the

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front building to the uh this front lot so we we guess that is the misinterpretation we believe

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that's misinterpretation okay and indicated in our statement and and could you talk why why are

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you enclosing it yeah uh we we are out uh aside in our statement and the the stair see here

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well you can just tell me just tell me why you want to close okay

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uh we live in the a three-story house uh a townhouse there is the our bedroom right now is

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in the second and third and there's so many steps and and lead to the second and third step is all

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very high it's like higher than standard this one is like eight inch the other that's nine inch

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and we are both over 70 years old i'm 70 my wife is 72 right now we still can walk but it's become

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more and more challenging and we think if we move one day if we move our bed in the first floor that

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you can see the first floor here and we have a small dining room and kitchen and this is the

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right now the living room is small if we put a bed here there will be no living space so we're

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thinking if we extend it to a sunroom in outside and close the porch like the other people.

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a sunroom in outside and close the porch like the other people we can move our living space

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to outside so in that case we don't have to change a lot and we we can in in the situation that we

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can just sleep in the first floor and so limit our activities for up and down and that's what the

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original thinking questions from the board the um do we know when the other properties uh porches

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were enclosed i don't know exactly but maybe there should be a way to check but only notice the last

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one that is shown in the picture they just finished probably a couple months ago and maybe

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two or three months ago because it's still pretty new i i see the people working on it

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so from my memory probably two or three months but i think maybe a place to check

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and to know exactly the other two is much earlier

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yeah yeah um

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okay that's so so i'm looking at the block on on uh zoom well google rather it's a beautiful block

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with the porches um just a lovely block with porches so it's tough for me to say yes to an

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enclosed porch when all when the rest of the block is so nice just architecturally um with with with

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the porches i'm so i'm surprised this is hasn't been designated as some historic uh block because

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of the the the character of the of the block um so the last one that was done they did a decent

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job for sure better than these two that you're showing in this photo um so that that was just

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my question i wasn't sure whether they actually came to zoning and got approval and so that was

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really my question the last one okay okay yeah let's try to find the last picture you're right

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this one um i have a question have you considered um getting uh stairs the uh uh mechanical you

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know like stair lift um yeah we we try to uh yes sorry yeah have you have you considered that and

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and thought about doing um we try actually different option we try to find the company

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and they two different kind one is a vacuum one and the other one they both feel uh difficult to

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do that the other one is the putting on the stair the stair is very narrow and once we put it on

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and if we don't use it i mean if we want to walk besides it is uh it's a lot of chance that we might

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take on it and so the housemates have someone else like my daughter come every weekend

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and so people

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are up and down

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and could have that dangerous

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and also

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there is a 90 degree

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turn point

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that's also difficult for them

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but we certainly

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when we find these

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things on the blog

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we think they are

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they look nice to us

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but I think that's the better way

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without

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uh doing all the other things uh so print all construction yes so i think if that could be done

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and that will be easier for everything and don't change the structure inside too

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so yes all right thank you other questions from the board

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questions or comments from our attorney hillary emerson

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not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

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there are no hands chair planning commission

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amy board with the planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no change the

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residential single-family RSA 5

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zoning at this location, the setbacks

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of the guard-level stories of this property

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and the adjacent properties are aligned

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regardless of the proposed portion closer.

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Therefore, the Planning Commission recommends

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that the Board grant the requested variance

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for front yard setback.

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Mr. Leang, we're going to vote on this next Wednesday

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at 9.30 a.m., okay?

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do we have to attend you don't have to attend but you can come on and listen

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Do we have to attend?

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You don't have to attend, but you can come on and listen.

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okay so you will give us the information yeah please give us a mercy yeah please give us a

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mercy and we are staying in this neighborhood for a while we only can take i appreciate it but we

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only have one person testifying thank you we will be back to you next week okay thank you okay now

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we'll go to our regular list here

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MI 2024

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000748

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Vern Anastasio is the attorney

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Vern Anastasio has been promoted to panelists.

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Chair.

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Good morning, counsel.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the core stenographer?

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Yes, Vern Anastasio, A-N-A-S-T-A-S-I-O.

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On behalf of my clients, Adam and Ariana Akay,

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property owners at

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235-41

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Cecil B. Moore Avenue

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where are firm to tell the truth

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the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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I do

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so there's a

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we think we're going to

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hear this and hold

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there's a couple things here

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we want to request a refusal

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to list all the addresses right

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use registration

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prior to occupancy for vacant commercial

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space

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and then we see i'm sorry which address are you working on so so mr chair i can interject we we

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just got a corrected refusal from lni although it does not include all of the addresses because

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this is a lot consolidation so it does have the correct address for the primary parcel which as

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mr anastasio said is 235 to 37 cecil b more avenue that was written incorrectly on the

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original refusal um but the other addresses that are being consolidated or proposed to be

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consolidated into one lot are not listed on here still um so we need a corrected refusal

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um for that um i wasn't aware i wasn't aware of that my apologies yeah no no it's okay i it was

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it was something that was discovered within the last well that cost a couple of days reviewing

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the information um so and also there's a couple there was some the commercial space it was unclear

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what was happening okay now they removed the commercial space okay so we never had the

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commercial space as part of our application okay so they they must have realized that mistake then

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