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Historical Commission — Oct 27, 1959

Philadelphia Historical CommissionOct 27, 1959
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  • Charles E. Peterson
  • David Wallace
  • DeLessays Moors
  • Dr. Godwin
  • Dr. Margaret B. Tinkcom
  • George A. Robbins
  • Grant M. Simon
  • Harry A. Batten
  • Harry G. McDowell
  • Judge Edwin O. Lewis
  • Mayor
  • McConnell
  • Mrs. Charles J. Maurer
  • Mrs. Kirkbride
  • Mrs. Richardson Dilworth
  • Philip Carroll
  • R. Norris Williams, II
  • W. O. Anderson

Properties mentioned

  • 200-204 S. Front Street
  • 225, 227 Delancey Street
  • 244 Delancey Street
  • 278-270, 272-274 South Second St. and 217 Spruce
  • 332 South Fourth Street
  • 334 South Fourth Street
  • Bannaker School
  • Busti Mansion
  • Fort Mifflin
  • Granite Street, Chancellor and South American Streets
  • Hamilton House, Cobb's Creek Parkway at 61st Street
  • Lombard Street to Bainbridge area
  • St. George's Methodist Church Library & Museum
  • St. James Street
  • The Head House
  • Washington Square West

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DRAFT THE THIRTY-FIFTH MEETING OF THE PHILADELPHIA HISTORICAL COMMISSION October 27, 1959, postponed to November 2nd Present were: Mrs. Richardson Dilworth Mr. R. Norris Williams, II. Mr. Harry A. Batten Mr. Charles E. Peterson, Secretary Mr. Grant M. Simon, Chairman Also present: Mr. Harry G. McDowell, representing Mr. McConnell Mr. Philip Carroll, representing Commissioner Gennetti Dr. Margaret B. Tinkcom, Historian Mrs. Charles J. Maurer, Executive Secretary Unless otherwise stated, all actions reported herein were taken after motions properly presented, seconded and carried. THE MINUTES for June 20, 1959, were approved as corrected. DR. TINKCOM'S REPORT: The Historical files of the Philadelphia Historical Commission have been augmented as follows: Photographs: Some 550 new (1959) photographs and about 200 old ones (1912-1920), and about 150 colored slides (to illustrate talks on the Commission's work) have been acquired. Insurance Surveys: Mrs. Kirkbride has finished her examination of the files of the Fire Association (in the possession of the Reliance Assurance Co.) and is continuing the survey of the unsorted policies of the Contributionship. Wills and Inventories: Arrangements have been made with the Department of Archives to secure photocopies of old wills and inventories of persons owning property in Washington Square East, where such legal instruments form integral parts of the Chains of Title to the properties. THE REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY: Since the Redevelopment Authority began to demolish the buildings in the Dock Street area, the staff of the Commission has inspected those reported cleared and read for demolition and was photographed important interior architectural details in about a dozen. Among the most important of these were the little houses on St. James Street, and the underground vaults under Granite Street, at Chancellor and South American Streets (The Morris Brewery, 1790) and at 200-204 S. Front Street. [HANDWRITTEN NOTES: Circle drawn in upper left corner of page. Two circles drawn in left margin at different points on the page.] THE MINUTES -2- November 2, 1959 The Commission has been acting as clearing house for information regarding these buildings and the materials to be salvaged from them for almost four months and has had disappointingly few inquiries regarding the interior details (window frames, flooring, maths, doors, hardware, &c) available for the use of anyone restoring another old building. No important finds nor any significant artifacts have been uncovered to date, in any of the Dock Street buildings. BANNAKER SCHOOL: The owners of this building (Martin Candy

inquiries regarding the interior details (window frames, flooring, maths, doors, hardware, &c) available for the use of anyone restoring another old building. No important finds nor any significant artifacts have been uncovered to date, in any of the Dock Street buildings. BANNAKER SCHOOL: The owners of this building (Martin Candy Co.) have been notified by the Department of Licenses and Inspections that in its present condition, it is in violation of the City's building Code. No order for its demolition has been issued however. The South West Philadelphia Community Council is anxious to save the school and has been notified of this condition. FORT MIFFLIN: The Commission's plan to write to Senators Clark and Scott, urging them to try to get the Federal Government to add this Fort to the National Parks was deferred in view of the almost certain proposal of the Greater Philadelphia Movement that the City takes over the Fort. A report by G. Edwin Brumbaugh on the cost of restoring it has been submitted to the Greater Philadelphia Movement and will be ready for distribution in November. THE HEAD HOUSE: Mr. David Wallace of the Independence National Historic Park has offered the 19th century fire fighting equipment, formerly displayed in Old City Hall, to the Philadelphia Historical Commission for exhibition in the restored Head House. The Historian was directed to thank Dr. Wallace for his offer and to ask him to send a list of the available material. After the Commission has had the opportunity of studying this inventory, it will be in a better position to accept or refuse the available items than it presently is. THE BUDGET FOR 1960: The figure is the same as it was for 1959, except that sufficient has been added to allow for a clerk-stenographer, Class II., and the equipment she will need. Therefore the total budget is $21,893 as compared to the present total of $17,815. As of this-date the Commission has in the 400 Class, a balance of $32.00. This amount was originally designed to be used for desk lamps. Because of the very good lighting in Room 634, this item is not necessary and therefore we ask the Commission's permission to order another chair instead, in the amount of $29.50. Permission was granted. In the 300 Class, a balance remains of $586. To use this to advantage, we have decided to ask for the approval of

Room 634, this item is not necessary and therefore we ask the Commission's permission to order another chair instead, in the amount of $29.50. Permission was granted. In the 300 Class, a balance remains of $586. To use this to advantage, we have decided to ask for the approval of the following items: 1. More old prints reproduced from the Historical Society of Penna. in the amount of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $100.00 2. We owe the Photographic Division for work already done 100.00 3. We owe the Department of Records for photostats about 100.00 4. We hope to reimburse the Archives for reproductions of wills and inventories after they are laminated 100.00 Approval was granted for these four expenditures. THE MINUTES -3- November 2, 1959 In Class 200, Professional Services, there is a balance of $305.00. The Commission would like to use $250 of this to retain the services of Mr. George A. Robbins so that he may start preparing drawings which would show doors, and doorways, dormes, cornices and similar details of the period 1750 to 1850, as suggested in the Minutes of June 30, 1959. Approval was given for this, if it includes the phrase "Compile and draw" in the contract. Dr. Tinkcom's Report was Approved. OLD BUSINESS Demolition By Neglect Mr. McDowell reported that he had studied the New Orleans Ordinances to control demolition by neglect and an earlier ordinance on which its effective powers were based. He was requested to write to Mr. DeLessays Moors, Mayor of the City of New Orleans and to inquir as to the effectiveness of the penalties imposed by these ordinances. If Mr. McDowell is satisfied that the New Orleans Ordinance is effective, he will have a similar instrument drafted for the consideration of this Commission. Inclusion of the Philadelphia Historical Commission into the City Charter Mr. McDowell discussed this possibility withMr. McConnell, Director of Finance and with the City Solicitor's office. The consensus is that, since the Commission can be brought within the limits of the Charter by popular referendum, it will not be practical to take any action in this direction until other amendments to the Charter are place on the ballot. Plaques for Historic Buildings Mr. Batten reported that the pattern of the plaque has been made and added that he had

of the Charter by popular referendum, it will not be practical to take any action in this direction until other amendments to the Charter are place on the ballot. Plaques for Historic Buildings Mr. Batten reported that the pattern of the plaque has been made and added that he had spoken to Judge Edwin O. Lewis and Mr. W. O. Anderson regarding the desirability of assigning the first twenty plaques to buildings in the Independence National Historica Park. Mr. Batten further proposed that plaque No. 1 be affixed to the State House and that a ceremony at which the Mayor would present this plaque in the Commission's name be arranged. Schuylkill Arsenal Mr. Carroll reported that the price asked for the Arsenal by the United States Government together with the cost to the City of demolishing the unusable buildings, was so high that in all probability, the City would not be able to buy the Arsenal for use as a Detention Center. Mr. Peterson noted that the Federal Governmerrt has occasionally given away government property of this sort to an agency planning to preserve its historic buildings and inquired whether the City had explored this possibility. The Commission requested that Mr. Peterson and Mr. Carroll jointly, look further into the matter and report their findings at the next meeting. NEW BUSINESS St. George's Methodist Church Library & Museum It was proposed and approved the the Library and Museum building of Old St. George's Methodist Church be certified as being historically significant. THE MINUTES -4- November 2, 1960 Hamilton House, Cobb's Creek Parkway at 61st Street. The Commission agreed to add this house to its certified list and the Chairman was requested to write a letter to the Philadelphia School Board, notifying them of the buildings historic worth and requesting the Board of Education to reconsider its intention of demolishing this house when a new school is to be built in this area. 278-270, 272-274 South Second St. and 217 Spruce - Abercrombie, Neave & Davis houses Mr. Peterson brought before the Commission the resolutions of the Society for the Preservation of Landmarks, advocating the preservation and restoration of these houses. All of these houses have been certified, and in consultation with the Redevelopment Authority, they are marked for rehabilitation. Washington Square West Dr. Tinkcom was directed to send the photographs and list of buildings recommended for certification in Washington Square

of Landmarks, advocating the preservation and restoration of these houses. All of these houses have been certified, and in consultation with the Redevelopment Authority, they are marked for rehabilitation. Washington Square West Dr. Tinkcom was directed to send the photographs and list of buildings recommended for certification in Washington Square West to the Commissionmembers in order that the list may be acted upon at the November 24th meeting. Lombard Street to Bainbridge Because of the probability that the expressway will be south of Lombard Street, photographs of this area are-to be secured immediately and a list of buildings suitable for preservation drawn up for the Commission's consideration. SUBMISSIONS: The Busti Mansion The Chairman was requested to write to Harbeson, Hough, Livingston & Larson, reporting that, in general, the Commission approved the plans for preserving the Busti Mansion, but that it would request that the exterior detail be studied more carefully and that the facade be restored more completely to its original state. If, for example, the widow's walk was an integral part of the old house, it should be replaced. 244 Delancey Street A permit requesting permission to change the roof line so that it will be identical with that of 243 Delancey Street; adding an identical cornice to that on 248 and to restore the windows to their original state, was approved. The owners were requested to submit a full size drawing of the proposed penteave before permission to reconstruct this will be granted. 332, 334 South Fourth Street Dr. Godwin's submission for the restoration of 332 South Fourth and the demolition of 334, which is to be replaced by a walled garden, was considered. Dr. Godwin will be asked to have his plan for 332 revised to make it conform to the original style of the house (c 18811), including the restoration of the old bulk window on the street floor. The Commission agreed to the demolition of 334 inasmuch as it has been gutted, Mr. Peterson dissenting. THE MINUTES -5- November 2, 1960 225, 227 Delancey Street Mr. Peterson was requested in restudy the owner's proposal with him. The Commission was agreed that all existing contemporary structural details, doors, &c, should be left intact, and that the detail of the cornice should be drawn to conform exactly to that on 229-231 Delancey. The proposed picture window on the west wall was not approved. The meeting was adjourned

him. The Commission was agreed that all existing contemporary structural details, doors, &c, should be left intact, and that the detail of the cornice should be drawn to conform exactly to that on 229-231 Delancey. The proposed picture window on the west wall was not approved. The meeting was adjourned at five-thirty. Respectfully submitted Charles E. Peterson, Secretary

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