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Committee Hearing, May 25, 2005

Philadelphia City Council Committee HearingsMay 25, 2005

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Councilman Ramos

No. 25 MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman 442 Whole - 5/25/05 Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. 4 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

No. 11 MR. McPHERSON: 7 to 10. It fails. There's 7 yeses -- There's 7 to table, 10 not to. So, the motion fails.

Council President Verna

Okay. Again, the Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell. A motion was made and seconded that Bill Number 050451 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation, as amended; also, a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next Council session. All in favor will indicate by saying aye. (Chorus of "ayes.") 443 Whole - 5/25/05

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (Chorus of "nos.")

Council President Verna

Roll call. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Clarke.

Council President Verna

We're voting on the bill, as amended, with a suspension.

Councilman Clarke

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

No. 22 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

No. 24 MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Krajewski. 444 Whole - 5/25/05

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

No. 9 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

No. 11 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

No. 20 MR. McPHERSON: Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: 12 ayes, 5 nos.

Council President Verna

Okay. The motion carries. 445 Whole - 5/25/05 Bill Number 050451 will be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation, as amended, also with a suspension of the rules. The Chair now recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell, regarding Bill Number 050452. Councilman DiCicco, your light is on. Did you want to be recognized? COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Was it circulated? I have an amendment to this bill 13 that would close the loophole that was being discussed earlier. I think Councilman Nutter and several others had some issues on the double taxation issue. It's been distributed. Oh, I'm sorry. Jannie, you were doing that?

Council President Verna

Okay. The amendment to this bill has been circulated. Does everyone have a copy? MR. McPHERSON: We're making more copies.

Council President Verna

Everyone has a copy of the amendment now. 446 Whole - 5/25/05

Council President Verna

You don't have a copy? Make certain that Councilman -- COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Councilman Kelly, would you share your copy with Councilman Rizzo?

Council President Verna

Councilman Rizzo does not have a copy. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: It's a conspiracy.

Council President Verna

Councilman DiCicco, did you make a motion? COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Yes, I did, Madam President.

Council President Verna

I didn't hear a second.

Councilman Ramos

Second.

Council President Verna

Okay. It has been moved and seconded that the amendment that has been circulated be adopted. All in favor will signify by saying aye. (Chorus of "ayes.")

Council President Verna

The Chair 447 Whole - 5/25/05 recognizes Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Madam President, I have another amendment, proposed amendment, for this bill. I'd like to circulate it.

Council President Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Move the adoption. UNIDENTIFIED COUNCIL PERSON: Second.

Council President Verna

Again, the Chair recognizes Councilman O'Neill. I believe everyone now has a copy of the amendment. Thank you. Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Madam President, I'll be brief. Just about everything I would say on this bill was covered in the last, and I deleted from my comments on this bill any reference to billboards and settlements or discussions or task forces, dealing with billboards. This is a valet parking tax, and they don't apply. 448 Whole - 5/25/05

Council President Verna

Okay. You've made a motion. It was seconded.

Councilman O'Neill

Move to adopt the amendment. UNIDENTIFIED COUNCIL PERSON: Second.

Council President Verna

Okay. All in favor of the adoption of Councilman O'Neill's amendment will please say aye. (Chorus of "ayes.")

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (Chorus of "nos.")

Council President Verna

I guess we better have a roll call. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. 21 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. 23 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

No. 25 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman DiCicco. 449 Whole - 5/25/05 COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: No. 3 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

No. 5 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

No. 12 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. 14 MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. 16 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. 22 MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. 25 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Rizzo. 450 Whole - 5/25/05

Councilman Rizzo

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

No. 8 MR. McPHERSON: The amendment fails, 6 to 11.

Council President Verna

Okay. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Madam President, I move that Bill Number 050452, as amended, be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation, and further recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. UNIDENTIFIED COUNCIL PERSON: Second.

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded that Bill Number 050452 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation, as amended; and the 451 Whole - 5/25/05 rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. All in favor will please indicate by saying aye. (Chorus of "ayes.")

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (Chorus of "nos.")

Council President Verna

Roll call. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

No. 24 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

No. 452 Whole - 5/25/05 MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

No. 11 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

No. 13 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

No. 22 MR. McPHERSON: Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: 12 to 5, it passes. 453 Whole - 5/25/05

Council President Verna

Okay. Therefore, Bill Number 050452 has been reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation, as amended; also, a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

This is 453, Madam President?

Council President Verna

No. 13

Councilman O'Neill

Oh. I'm sorry.

Council President Verna

So, as I said, the Bill Number 050452 has been reported out with a favorable recommendation. as amended, with a suspension. We are now going to consider Bill 19 Number 050453. And the Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. I move that Bill Number 050453 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation, and a recommendation that the 454 Whole - 5/25/05 rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next Council of Council.

Councilman Ramos

Second.

Council President Verna

Were there any amendments? MR. McPHERSON: No. 8

Council President Verna

Okay. The Chair recognizes Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Offer an amendment.

Council President Verna

Does everyone have copy of the amendment? Chair recognizes Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Thank you, Madam President. Again, the same remarks from the first bill repeated on the second, with the deletion of any reference to working out the billboard matter, now that I know there's a task force.

Council President Verna

If that's a motion... If it's a motion...

Councilman O'Neill

Move the 455 Whole - 5/25/05 adoption. UNIDENTIFIED COUNCIL PERSON: Second.

Council President Verna

Okay. All those in favor will say aye. (Chorus of "ayes.")

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (Chorus of "nos.")

Council President Verna

Roll call. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. 15 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. 17 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

No. 19 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: No. 21 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

No. 23 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kenney. 456 Whole - 5/25/05

Councilman Kenney

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

No. 6 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. 8 MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. 10 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. 16 MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. 19 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. 457 Whole - 5/25/05 MR. McPHERSON: to 10. It fails. 3

Council President Verna

Okay. The 4 Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell. 5

Councilwoman Blackwell

Madam 6 President, I move that Bill Number 050453 be 7 reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation, and a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session. UNIDENTIFIED COUNCIL PERSON: Second.

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded that Bill Number 050453 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation; also, a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. All in favor will please say aye. (Chorus of "ayes.")

Council President Verna

Should I ask if anybody's opposed? (Chorus of "nos.")

Council President Verna

Roll call. 458 Whole - 5/25/05 MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Clarke.

Council President Verna

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

No. 17 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

No. 19 MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Aye. 459 Whole - 5/25/05 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

No. 4 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

No. 6 MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

No. 15 MR. McPHERSON: Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. MR. McPHERSON: 12 to 5. It passes.

Council President Verna

Councilman Goode. COUNCIMLAN GOODE: Madam President, are we going to be voting on the five year plan resolution?

Council President Verna

We will be. 460 Whole - 5/25/05 COUNCIMLAN GOODE: I'm asking: Are we going to be voting on the five year resolution?

Council President Verna

I think we have to go back. We're having a discussion on that at this moment, please. We're just going to have a breather. Mr. McPherson is getting some information for us. (Brief pause.)

Council President Verna

All right. We are now going to be considering Resolution 14 Number 050022. And I understand that everyone has received a copy of the technical amendments to Exhibit A. Everyone has a copy. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. We introduced the amendments to Resolution 050022. These are technical amendments to Exhibit A that will conform to the actions of the five year plan that this 461 Whole - 5/25/05 committee has taken, with regards to both the operating and capital budget, as well as revenue measures. And we move for the adoption of the amendment. UNIDENTIFIED COUNCIL PERSON: Second.

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded that the amendments to Resolution Number 050022 be adopted. All in favor will please indicate by saying aye. (Chorus of "ayes.")

Council President Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

I'm sorry. Just one quick question. This is the document? MR. McPHERSON: Yes.

Councilman Nutter

This document incorporates, then, the amendments that were made in Bill 03 which is the operating budget, the changes that were made, and then reflects them all the way through the document. 462 Whole - 5/25/05 MR. McPHERSON: Yes.

Council President Verna

Yes.

Councilman Nutter

Okay. Great. And assumes... I'm sorry. And assumes in this document the revenues from the three new tax measures, two for the billboard, one for the valet parking?

Council President Verna

Yes.

Councilman Nutter

This five year plans assumes those revenues?

Council President Verna

Yes.

Councilman Nutter

Okay.

Council President Verna

All in favor of the adoption of the amendments will please indicate by saying aye. (Chorus of "ayes.")

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (No response.)

Council President Verna

The ayes have it. The motion carries, and the amendments are adopted. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell. 463 Whole - 5/25/05

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. We move that Resolution 050022 as amended be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation; and also a recommendation that --

Council President Verna

We don't need a suspension. MR. McPHERSON: It's a resolution.

Council President Verna

We don't need a suspension.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you.

Council President Verna

Do I hear a second? UNIDENTIFIED COUNCIL PERSON: Second.

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded that Resolution 20 Number 050022 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation, as amended. All in favor will please say aye. (Chorus of "ayes.")

Council President Verna

Those opposed? 464 Whole - 5/25/05 (No response.)

Council President Verna

The ayes have it, and the motion carries. Thank you all very much, and have a very good evening. (Public meeting concluded at 8:20 p.m.) 465 CERTIFICATE I HEREBY CERTIFY that the proceedings and evidence are contained fully and accurately in the stenographic notes taken by me upon the public hearing and meeting of The Philadelphia City Council, taken on May 25, 2005, and that this is a true and correct transcript of same. _____________________________ DAVID A. DEIK, RPR and Commissioner of Deeds (The foregoing certification of this transcript does not apply to any reproduction of the same by any means, unless under the direct control and/or supervision of the certifying reporter.)