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ZBA Hearing - October 30, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 30, 20245h 46m

from the existing commercial mixed use cmx1 the proposed commercial use is consistent with

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documented power use therefore the planning commission recommends that the board grant

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the requested variance for sit-down restaurant

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By 2024-003-849-899 Marcella Street, I vote yes with proviso. One-year temporary variance that expires 11-1-25, hours of operation 8A to 11P, closed on Tuesday, commercial trash pickup, and used oil stored in basement until commercial pickup.

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Mr. Chair, would you also like to specify the location of the use of the property to the first floor for the first floor and basement only?

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Yes.

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So the other listed condition was the no liquor license and no BYOB.

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Is that something that we can add to that or is that?

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No, we cannot.

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that is enforced at the state level okay okay they would be required to come back well they

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would have they would be required to go to the state and go through a hearing process with the

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community if they wanted to do if they want to sell liquor yes so what about byop that's

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how does that work it it you don't need a license to do that people can just bring their

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their own beverages so there's nothing that we can do about that okay what about what about the

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community if they don't want that how does that work is there anything that they can do unfortunately

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no wow well it's one it's one year temporary variance not like it was in here for takeout

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for the whole thing.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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My vote is yes

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with proviso,

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with the provisors.

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Cheryl Gaston,

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my vote is no.

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Ishmael Shaheed,

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my vote is yes

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with proviso.

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Thank you, Mr. Vaccaro.

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Thank you.

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Have a good day.

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Is there anyone

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in the virtual audience

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whose case has not been called?

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I see no hands, Jerry.

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Thanks, everyone. See everyone at 2 p.m.

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Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing this afternoon's meetings.

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With me is our Vice Chair Ismail Shahid.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our board member, Cheryl L. Gaston.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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And our board member, Michael Johns.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Also present is Hillary Emerson, our attorney.

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Here's our virtual format.

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Proceedings are being recorded.

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With your participation, you agree to be recorded.

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Recording will be available by contacting ZBA Executive Director at phil.gov.

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For our court sonography, we ask attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before testifying.

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If you're participating by phone, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute.

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To end an appearance statement, call 267-270-5548.

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Leave your email address and the address of the property in question.

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And finally, the question answer box on the screen is not for testimony.

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All questions should be directed to our executive director at zbaexecutivedirector.philly.com.

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Here's our schedule for this afternoon.

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Number one, MI 2022-007-291-430 West Burke Street.

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Cases continued, attorney moving party.

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Number three, MI 2024-000056.

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20, 24, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5, 6, 13, 29 Levick Street.

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Case has been continued until Wednesday, November 6th at 9.30 a.m.

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Excuse me, Mr. Chair, do we have a, I just wanted to ask if we had a Spanish interpreter for that one,

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just so we could put that on the record in Spanish.

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Is the interpreter present?

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good afternoon chair this is jibet benton i'll be your co-host for this afternoon

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if there's a spanish interpreter in the audience please raise your hand

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i see no hands chair okay well we'll make sure that we communicate with the applicant um as well

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as here on the record. Thank you. Thank you very much. Number four, MI 2024, 000502, 1936 North

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Front Street, continued attorney moving party. Are there any other requests for continuance?

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I see no hands at this time, Chair. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I did see, there it goes. I knew

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there was another request and the hand was up previously but then her hand was not up when i

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said there were no hands pamela laughlin has been unmuted and allowed to speak

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uh yes thank you very much good afternoon counsel could you please state your name and spell for the

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yes sir my name is pamela lockman it is spelled l-o-u-g-h-m-a-n i represent dorothy french yep

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Is Catherine Mismar in the audience, too?

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Catherine Mismar.

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Chair, Catherine Mismar has been allowed to speak.

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Good afternoon, counsel.

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Good afternoon.

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Could you state your name, please, and spell it for the courts?

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Catherine Mismar.

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It's M as in Mary, I, S as in Sam, S as in Sam, I, M as in Mary, E-R.

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For him to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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I do.

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Counsel Lachman, would you state your position?

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Yes, we are requesting a continuance because my client has retained a traffic engineer to issue a traffic and parking study for this revised plan.

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He had previously done one for the original plan.

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The situation is that since we received the notice of refusal on October 16th, he has been unavailable.

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His mother was diagnosed with a serious health condition.

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She entered hospice last week and was not expected to live through the weekend.

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He was just unable to turn around a revised parking study for us.

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Under these exigent circumstances, we respectfully request a continuance so that we may get a revised parking study and traffic study.

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Councilor Mesmer, please.

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Respectfully, the applicant opposes the request for continuance.

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While we do feel terribly about the illness of the traffic engineer's mother,

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this hearing was already rescheduled once to allow for further discussion with the community

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and conversations with the councilman's office and two co-coordinating RCOs date back to February of 2023.

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Both those RCOs have issued letters of non-opposition and support respectively,

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and the councilman has also issued a letter of non-opposition.

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One of those RCOs is present today, as well as all of our experts who are prepared to proceed.

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During a call with Protestants' council late Friday, which was the first we spoke, we learned she was actually engaged back in July.

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The revised plans that she referenced were provided to her client and were the subject of a community meeting called by her client in mid-September.

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They've now had over two and a half months to review the revised plans, as we're at the end of October.

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The protestant has had ample time to discuss the project with its traffic engineer.

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And frankly, the proposal of revised plans is a reduction in density.

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So if anything, it would improve the traffic condition.

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And frankly, it would be unfair to the other community organizations who have invested over a year and a half in this project to continue to delay it to allow for further review.

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So here's what we're going to do.

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Council Lachman, I'm going to have Catherine Vinsmer present her case today.

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we will reschedule a resumptive hearing for you to present your case.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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So, and when I look at the list, you're, Counsel Mismer,

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you'll be about two or three down and we'll be to you shortly.

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Okay.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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And then what, just so both, you know,

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what I'm going to do is hold public comment on this and also hold the,

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the views of the planning commission till we have to have that resumptive

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So we have to have that resumptive hearing, but we will hear Catherine Bismar's case today.

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hearing, but we will hear Catherine Mismer's case today.

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Okay?

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Okay.

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Just a quick question, Mr. Chair.

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Council Emerson, is it possible to hold the resumptive hearing prior to, you know, a typical ordinary course continuance?

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The staff will work on a resumption date with you, but it's not generally set in the ordinary course of continuances.

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Great. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay, so number 11, number 11, MI 2024-005-359-6450-Averford Avenue, Makamba Kulaibali is the listed owner pro se, no exhibits, this is the first listing.

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Akamba Koulibaly, if you're in the audience, please raise your virtual hand.

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Chair, we have a hand up, but it is not the name you said.

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Let's see who they are.

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Make sure he's got a name of somebody else.

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They have been unmuted and allowed to speak.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer?

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Makamba Koulibaly, M as in Mary, A as in Apple, K as in Kite, A as in Apple, M as in Mary, B as in Boy, A as in Apple.

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could you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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yes all right this is the first listing in this case we do not have your exhibits

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um i had you send your paperwork in yes and when was that um my husband is going to

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um answer that question for me uh good good afternoon sir what's your what could you state

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your name, please. I am Moussa Sidibe, M-O-U-S-S-A, S-I-D-I-B-E. You swear or affirm to tell the

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truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Yes. Sir, did you send the paperwork in for this

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project? Yes. We sent out everything attached to when we was doing our RCO. We sent the same

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things to both parties. And also five days ago, I sent it. Three days ago, I sent it again.

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Let me confirm the email that I sent you to.

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We do not have the exhibits.

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What you're going to have to do is contact the office, give them a call,

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and then we'll tell you the proper way of making sure we get it on time

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and we will hear it the next time we have the case, okay?

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I have a question.

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The exhibit, you mean the floor plan?

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Is that what you call the exhibit?

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No, there's a whole series of things you need to send in.

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And so what I'm going to do is you call the office. The office will make sure that you know every piece of material you need. Okay?

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Okay. Can I ask one last question, please?

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Sure.

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Okay. So the instruction that was sent out to us was that we're supposed to email everything, all these documents, the denial letter, the zoning appeal, the project information, the blueprint.

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Right. Did you send everything?

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I sent everything to rcozba at phila.gov.

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and excuse me chair um did you also um send it to board council at philadelphia no i only send it

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to the rco uh here's what we're going to do do what i tell you the office will help you make

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sure you have everything you need and also where to send it okay okay all right thank you very much

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So MI 2024-005-359-6450 Haverford Avenue, case is continued, Mark must be heard.

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And also number two, MI 2023-006-415-1701 Germantown Avenue, that case has been withdrawn.

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And number six, MI 2024-002-479-1222-24 Walnut Street.

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That case has been withdrawn.

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We're going to go to our add-ons.

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Number one, MI 2024-004-954, the case has been rescheduled to 11-6-24 at 2 p.m.

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Number two, MI202400476.

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MI 2024-004-763-3412 North 19th Street. I vote yes with proviso. Per refusal, dated 10-29-24,

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maximum three dwelling units, no household living in the basement.

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Michael Johns, my vote is yes with provisos.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes with provisos.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Number three, MI 2024-004-290-21-Wolf Street. The vote in this matter has been rescheduled to Wednesday, November 6th at 2 p.m.

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Start with number eight.

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MI 2024-003-236-5145-47 Delancey Street.

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Alan Nockamson is the attorney.

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There's a letter of support from the West Philadelphia Economic Development Council.

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The applicant also provided a petition of support from 26 people.

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Alan Nockamson is coming back in as a panelist now, Chair.

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Alan Nockamson.

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good afternoon uh mr chair members of the board alan knockamson knockamson pc

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not just for the record you spell your name for this stenographer knockamson n-o-c-h-u-m-s-o-n

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you swear or firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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I do.

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Could you identify your client, the relationship to this property?

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Yeah, my client is 5145 Delancey LLC, and in the virtual audience should be either of his members, Irfan Hassan or Saeed Hassani.

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Our vice chair has a few questions for you, sir.

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Good afternoon, counsel. Do you agree to wait to read another refusal or stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits as needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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Yes, we have.

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Thank you, Counsel. Please proceed and share your screen.

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Thank you.

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So what we have here is 5147 Delancey Street.

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As you can see, it's a former church building.

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It's also had a history as a daycare more recently.

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And we're trying to do an adaptive reuse of this split zoning of RSA 5 and RSA 6 into a six-unit apartment building.

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So during our presentation, I will first review the notice of refusal with you.

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