mr johnson could you please come on
I'm on. I'm about to share the screen.
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Johnson.
Mr. Johnson, you won't be testifying.
He'll be the one testifying.
You'll just show the screen.
I have a case just wanted me to see it.
Yes, sir, can you see the documents before you start our vice chair has just a few questions for you.
Good morning. Have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing?
yes ma'am okay and um do you waive the reading of the refusals and stipulate to their accuracy
yes ma'am okay all right thank you you can proceed with your case
okay as you can see uh this this lot's been vacant for over 10 years i bought the lot uh
uh so i had a plan to build on it so i finally decided to put something in there
and then it's a white uh it used to be like a two uh a two-story building and then i i i i want to
get i want to build it higher make it a three-story with uh uh uh two apartments on the first floor
for my kids and two apartments one on the second floor one on the third floor so it's gonna be
like a four four units uh two first bedroom on the first floor and one two bedroom on the second floor
uh two first bedroom on the first floor and one two bedroom on the second floor
one two bedroom on uh on the third floor as you can see on the floor plan
and that building will be about like uh uh five foot taller than uh then the rest of
the building on the block as far as the height of the building and uh and that's the plan
what what's in the basement the basement is going to be like be like uh like the utility
room here in the basement the laundries uh things like that the furnace and there'll be uh there'll
be uh storage and stuff like that do you have any other photos of the property of the area
uh i believe there was a photo in there that there it is that was showing uh-huh
that's a vacant lot there oh yeah it's been vacant for over like 12 years or so
and then that's the only vacant lot on the block
questions from the board
are there any other uh multi-family on that block it looks like they're all two-story houses
yeah they're all two stories some duplexes and on the block and then if you go like one block
further there are some three stories there if you go like uh around 57 and whitby 56 and whitby
there are some uh some taller buildings up there if you go around the corner if you turn uh if you
turn white on 58th street you'll see it's not a tree story and there's a tree story at the corner
of that block it's it's a funeral home it used to be a funeral home it's a tree story there
so question for you it's kind of hard to uh kind of see the context uh this this this house in
context with the neighbors I mean I see this the picture but there's not an
elevation that sort of shows the the buildings next to it so it's kind of
difficult to see what the scale is next to those properties I see you do have a
porch which is consistent or it's going to close but it's rather consistent with
it with the neighbor what's the is the is the face of the plane of the main
facade uh the same as the facade the same plane as the facade of the adjacent property
uh as you can see the white building to your white that's the adjacent property that's 5830
it also has an enclosed porch with the white siding on it it's gonna be right so my right so
my question is are you at the same plane as that like i said it's kind of difficult to see
you know how this fits in context without additional information can we swear the architect
in uh if mr dorval wants to call his architect as a witness he may mr dorval do you want to have your
architect answer some questions well definitely yeah but uh like i was saying it's going to be
the same as the font for days there's existing phone post next door the same building line
is going to be the same all right we'll go back to this do you want your architect to come on
and answer some questions yes sir sir could you please an architect could you please state your
name and spell for the sonographer kenneth johnson k-e-n-n-e-t-h all right do you swear
all right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth
yes did you hear the questions about
the front facade yes yeah could you please help answer that question yes the um front of the
covered porch will be in the same plane as the neighbor because they twins sort of and uh setback
will be the same plane as the setback of the rest of the buildings on the street
with a bay sir could you do you have any other more photos or any other drawings that would be
helpful to explain that no i i mean if you look at the picture you can see that the red outline
is the front facade of the proposed building and if you look at the site part at the top of the
page because they twins. The distance between a property line and the side yard is five feet.
Bring that up. So there's plenty of room to walk around the building and of course
um the neighboring property also has to set back so there's plenty of space between the buildings
the neighboring property also has to set back.
other questions um yeah i have a question so um this house is a twin do you have the support uh
from 58 32 were they at the meeting um the rco meeting or have you have reached out to the neighbor
i think that's the honest question oh yes i mean i talk to that neighbor all the time uh the next
door neighbor i talk to both of them all the time in fact they want to start building put up because
it's a vacant lot they don't they don't really want that vacant lot uh be there for a long time
so i mean there are some trees there i mean i cut the trees last year because i was anticipating
started building last year so i had four trees down there in the back i spent like six thousand
dollars remove all the trees all the tree branches so in anticipation for foundation work but it has
never worked so right now you know people are putting trash there every now and then
and then it's a concern okay so you have the support you said you have their support oh yeah
i spoke to both neighbors all the time okay all right my next question is what is your trash plan
for these four units my trash plan yes where is the trash going to be stored and put out
In the backyard. I believe the backyard is going to be like about 18 by 30, 30 feet long.
There'll be plenty of room in the backyard for trash cans.
Okay. And everyone will have access to the yard, correct?
Yeah, I think. What is it? It's about, what, 150? Yeah. Oh, yes. Yes, ma'am. Yes, definitely.
Okay. And is there a particular reason why four units is proposed here?
Yeah, because...
For multifamily?
Yeah, because I got a big family.
I got like four kids on their own apartments.
You know what I mean?
They want to move here close to me.
Because I live in Aiden, so I'm not too far from the apartment.
So I'm like a few blocks away from them.
So as I get older, I want to get something for my kids, things like that.
Okay, so I see you just flashed your plans.
So just real quick, could you just tell me on the first floor,
how many units and how many bedrooms?
On the first floor, we got two one-bedroom units.
okay and then the second floor is one unit and a third floor is one unit exactly okay and for
is there a roof deck plan for this no not all that okay all right thank you any other questions
i do have i do have one other question all of the um houses that are adjacent to you are brick
have brick fronts why have you chosen not to do brick well definitely it's a money issue because
those those buildings they were built when everything was cheap like 80 80 90 years ago
nowadays i mean you know uh i make the front uh break leg just the front but the size not
be siding uh it's it's a it's a financial issue all right okay any other questions
questions from our attorney not at this time mr chair questions or comments from
people in the virtual audience. Chair, I have a hand up from the name of Mariko Worth.
Sure, sure. Allow them to speak. Sure. Hi, yeah. Mariko, could you do me a favor? We've already
sworn you in. Just for the record, state your name before you start your testimony.
My name is Mariko Worth. I'm a neighbor across the back. So there's two neighbors.
please why don't you um give us your testimony about this project sure uh well one of my concerns
that i was going to bring up at the rco meeting is the architect was kind enough to share the
plans with me but i'm not clear about how far back this building is going to go it's already
going to be quite a bit higher so like whitby is up and then behind it i'm behind it on hadfield
so it's like maybe 40 feet into my backyard so if this building extends further back than the
houses on the block it's going to extend quite a bit into like it's going to be almost level with
my back windows and taller so they'd be able to kind of like look i'm just that was one of my
questions for clarification of the architect is this building going to be at the same level in
the rear yard as the other buildings because if it extends beyond that it's really going to affect
um us neighbors on hadfield street so i wasn't clear i he sent me the plans but i couldn't
figure it out by myself like how much is it going to be yeah basically is it going to be in line
with the rest of the buildings in the backyard or is the building going to extend pretty far into
pretty far into the rear yard especially if the trash is going to be in the back you know okay
the rear yard. Especially if
the trash is going to be in the back.
it's them respond Hillary the architect or the plaintiff could give us their comments on that
but the um building is going to be the rail building will be uh deeper than the neighbors
this is the line of the the uh adjacent building right and but i think i think there's no
variance for the rear yard so i think by right we can go back that far
okay so my question is so you're saying that it will like
go quite a bit further into the backyard so like kind of cover the other side neighbors
do you know how much
how much further how many feet further uh i would have to guess i don't know exactly
or 12 feet it will just be 12 feet yeah 12 feet a little longer
okay so extend 12 feet past the bag that you just pass the line
and then with the rear um how close to the property line are you going to build the
back fence because one of the problems we've been having is people are bringing that fence right up
against the property line and it's a slope and then like it's eroding out from underneath it
like that happened across the street they they built that fence right on the the property line
or past it actually and then it's eroding out from underneath so there's like a problem where
that actual concrete might just like fall so that's been another issue yeah we'll do it like
three feet before the poverty line three feet yeah okay all right sir do you have any other
questions remember we're not voting on this today we're going to recommend that because
listen to me we're going to recommend that this go back to the uh potential to have another meeting
at the rco okay that's fine i just figure close here all right sure is there anyone else in the
audience relative to this case no chair i see no hands at this time planning commission
good morning chair david effecto f-e-c-t-e-a-u with the city planning do you swear or affirm
to tell the truth told truth nothing but truth yes sir i do please proceed thank you sir chairman
and board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the rsa3 residential
single-family attached zoning at this location the city rezoned this neighborhood in 2019
and a council supported map change there is no unique physical condition or circumstance that
would prevent this property from being used in strict conformity with the zoning code
this is a primarily single-family block face front-loaded parking is not a common condition
on this block face uh the city planning commission recommends that the board deny the proposed use
dimensional and parking variances all right so uh sarah we're going to bring this case back on july
8th at 9 30 a.m we vote on this we're going to close the record except for we would recommend
that you have contact with the rco and the only thing that will leave this open for am i correct
is contact from the RCO and a chance to respond to that, is it correct?
Correct. Yeah, a letter from the RCO and a chance to respond.
Okay. Do you understand, sir?
Yes, I do.
You do?
Yes, sir.
All right. Thank you very much.
Number six.
MI-2025-006-651-2031-Moore Street.
Snada Davis is the owner.
Oh, there you go.
Oh, thank you.
Good morning.
Good morning.
okay yeah good morning all right good morning could you state your name and spell for the
stenographer yes rasheen davis r-a-h-s-h-e-n-e-d-a-v-i-s right um do you swear or firm to tell
the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes this application is for uh for a multi-use
family right living three dwelling units two or me two two yes oh they changed that hillary
morning two two yes oh they changed that hillary okay all right our place chair has a few questions
Okay, all right.
for you sure good morning morning have you submitted your documents and exhibits uh five
days in advance of this hearing yes okay and um so your refusal is that uh the multi-family
is prohibited in the rsa 5 zoning district so do you agree with that and do you waive the reading
of it yes okay all right you can show your screen and proceed with the key
uh i see it yes
so I'll start with all of this I uploaded the only thing um to the calendar only thing
new was to this morning an email came to you guys and I was cc'd on it from the RCO with
the letter of support yeah the letter of support but it's not free anymore it's two yes and they
said to all right so why don't you start your presentation sure so this is the front of the
property um I own the home and my um request is to make it a duplex and the plans that are provided
are for two bedroom one bathroom one on the first floor one on the second floor and the basement
would just be uh used for storage it didn't have the height to do anything with the basement okay
uh and so if you I have I have hard copies too I don't know if you want them no this is fine okay
should see if we can't get a little look at it yes so um and i attach photos of to my um to the
calendar of the current inside and outside as well but uh it would be two bedrooms one bath
with the kitchen on the first floor this is the first floor here um the same on the second floor
and this is just talking about the the studs and the walls and things like that and then the
basement would just be uh for storage and they have a washer and dryer and utility
functions down there um i think the only thing um
i guess different that i i don't really know plans that well but when talking with the architect was a
firewall that had to go up on the first floor when they built the hallway as part of it
have you talked to the neighbors on both sides here yes i have and they agree yes and how about
the rest of their block was there other multiple family uses on the block there are at each corner
they are multifamily the only one in the middle of the block that i know of
questions from the board
can you go back to your plans again the first floor plan