this is how the site works one-way perimeter driving continuous loop lets vehicle circle
the building and exit forward with no reversing on the site. There will be a fenced outdoor play
area. There'll be fire and emergency access. The perimeter drive doubles as a code compliant fire
lane around the building. There'll be crosswalks and walkways that are delineated. The covered
drop-off and pickup will be fully staff assisted and curbside loading at the entrance keeps children
safe and the traffic moving clearly visitor staff and ada parking will be organized parking with
accessible spaces near the entrance as i mentioned before there'll be full landscaping buffers and
lighting and screen service areas for trash and recycling in an enclosed screened enclosure
away from any homes
we've got some playground area that's going to be separated by age there'll be artificial turf
and poured rubber flooring under every structure there'll be shade sales mature landscaping
outdoor classrooms and garden beds reading corners water and music play
and a decorative fence we understand the fence may need some additional permitting
Again, this traffic flow sort of keeps things off of a Welsh road in a way that we believe won't negatively impact the road or the immediate area in any way beyond what would be normally expected.
And we do have some environmental-ish items that we'd like to talk about.
There will be a secured controlled entry, secured access controlled front entrance with visitor management.
We have an authorized adult verification system for every child at pickup.
We will have code compliant exits, alarms, and clearly marked egress paths.
We'll have exterior lighting, security cameras, fencing, emergency vehicle access, and of course, ADA.
accessibility there'll be energy efficient lighting there'll be rain
gardens and drainage solar ready roof recycling program the planning
The planning landscaping will be mostly native low water landscaping. There'll be, of course, water efficient irrigation, EV charging, and durable low maintenance materials throughout.
landscaping will be mostly native low water landscaping
some questions that you may have will this increase traffic on welsh road the answer is no
the queuing will happen on site again in a one-way loop with staff assisted curbside drop-off
will playground be noisy for neighbors that outdoor play will be limited to
scheduled daytime periods only play area will be buffered by landscaping and fencing as well
we'll get into the hours of operation when we have my uh my witnesses on there'll be security
fencing lighting and maintenance throughout the property i think what i'd like to do right now
is call my client mr muhammad gabu guba sorry uh to the stand to adopt my testimony
okay that's all mr chair they'll be coming back in as a panel thank you
hello hello everyone hi could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer
mohammed guba m-o-h-a-m-e-d g-o-u-b-a-a all right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth
the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes i do sir could you turn on your video please yes thank
you counsel thank you mr guba did you hear my presentation to the board today i did true and
accurate to the best of your knowledge it is and do you adopt it as your own testimony i do can you
tell us about hours of operation our hours of operation will be from 6 a.m to 6 p.m
uh monday monday through friday close on the weekends yes okay um approximate age range of the
children uh age ranges is going to be primarily starting off as a daycare where we're going to
have newborns and then eventually as we move on to the later grades we're going to be doing
four weeks to 12 years and then we're going to be doing preschool services as well
and what are the estimated number of employees at any one shift
our typical approximation for employees for a daycare the scale would be about
uh 18 to 35 employees full capacity for having people with traffic control and uh other people
that are working would be about 30 to 40 i believe right so if they're about three to four months
into the into the business understood and this will not only just be for folks who are doing
instruction in child care but also as you said uh traffic control maintenance and other sorts
of tertiary duties is that correct correct so uh what we want to do is we want to take the daycare
Learning Center into one facade. So we have our teachers, we have our TAs, we have the people that
are working in the daycare from day to day, our directors, so on and so forth. And then we have
what we call secondary members of the Google's Learning Academy branch, which are going to be,
for example, gymnasts, instructors, yoga instructors. We have a black belt judo
specialist who comes in and helps with exercise for some of the kids of the ages.
So we have someone who does the violin. So these are also members of our community that we
hire for a couple days a week to add to the inventory programs for the kids.
Very good. I have nothing further for now. Thank you.
Vern, could you, just out of curiosity, could you have him explain his background?
Yeah, I actually was going to call Sabah Hadid, who will be running it.
I'm sorry.
I just, yeah, I want to give you guys a breakdown.
Sabah Hadid is the individual who will be running the daycare operation.
She is a partner in the business as well.
She has extensive background, over 25 years of educational experience,
master's in hydraulic engineering.
She's also my mother.
And then we also have Yusuf Guba.
Yusuf Guba will be actually handling and spearheading all of the operational
technical facades of the business on day-to-day management.
And I handle business development, marketing, and growth.
Thank you, Mr. Guba.
Could I have your mom come on?
Is that okay?
Yep, thank you.
Then I call Ms. Sabah Hadid.
to to the stand
that we come up again at the panelist council thank you
thank you
hello hi could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer
yes s-a-b-a-h i did h-a-d-i-d all right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the
whole truth nothing but the truth i do if possible could you turn to your video one sure
okay thank you very much council thank you ms hadid good afternoon
good afternoon thank you for joining us uh just very briefly the board just like to hear your
background and how you've come up with this vision and and how you plan to execute um so um i have a
background engineering from my country and masters in hydraulic engineering and then when i came to
this um to the united states um they um so they i i went to i taught in public school so they were
short and like shirts and they were um looking for math physics um all that so i start teaching
for like 19 years and then i just felt like my field is children not the engineering part so
So I switch and I start like thinking to just do something with children and like give the maximum of knowledge that I have.
And like in science, math, anything creative and all that.
This is how the idea came up.
And then I had the, when I start thinking about this project, that we already have one established already.
So my Mohammed and Yusuf helped a lot because they're native speakers and they're young to manage things that I cannot do.
So and then because the education field required, I mean, the daycare required education field.
So I went back to school and I got my associate education and then I'm about to graduate from Arcadia with bachelor degree in education as well.
Very good. So just to reiterate and surmise, 19 years as a public school instructor, presently operating a child care center, perhaps, and an additional training and degree to cover additional child care skills. Is that correct?
Thank you very much.
You're welcome.
With that, I'm going to call Mr. Youssef Gubak.
Would you guys like me to sign in from my account, or we can carry on from here?
No, that's fine.
Could you please state your name and spell it for his stenographer?
Youssef, Y-O-U-C-E-F, last name G-O-U-B-A-A, Gubak.
Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, told truth, nothing but the truth?
Counsel.
Thank you.
Youssef, very briefly, I just wanted to see if you had anything to add about the
operations and the vision uh to ensure that this place is is run correctly uh i feel like we've
we made a great impact on the uh on the region that we're fully that we're occupying now um
parents you know parents and people of the neighborhood the the ones who have their
children that attend our center uh they're constantly telling us as far as not just the
the curriculum and the program side of how their kids are you know learning and advancing but also
the convenience of how you know how close the their homes are as well as being on their way
to work and whatnot so i feel like this can help expand um it'll be a great addition to the
neighborhood and um yeah i think it's uh i think it's i think it's gonna it's gonna have a really
positive impact thank you yousef i i have nothing further mr chair did anybody adopt your testimony
I think Muhammad did, yes.
Okay, all right, good.
All right, questions from the board.
Councilor, can you pull up the site plan again?
Go ahead, Mike.
How many children in your current facility and how long have you operated it?
So currently at the moment we have 69 approved slots.
and that obviously rotates from morning and evenings depending on the children's schedules
we also have we're also enrolled with the phl pre-k program i'm not sure if you guys are
familiar with that but it's a program that offers uh it's it's pretty much a free program for kids
to to attend the two pre-k years um that we're we're always at full occupancy and we actually
a waiting list we we usually get booked out by january february max even though the school year
begins in september uh we've and you said the question was how long we've we've been in business
in business how long you've been operating yes operating the other facility we've been
how long you've been yes operating the other facility we've been since 2020.
since 2020 so six six years six years yes thank you ms winn i don't know if this is what you're
looking for otherwise i can show you the other stuff so it wasn't i'm actually looking for the
actual scaled site plan that shows the exterior and the curb cuts but you can leave this up
because actually it addresses my shared concern is that um a lot of the documentation that we've
been shown looks like it was done using generative ai or not using rendered plans and like for this
plan for very specifically um you're showing cross street and welsh road and i think in real life
welsh road is where cross street is and cross street is blue whatever the other street is
and there's multiple curb cuts currently for the Rite Aid and the building is not located where
you're currently showing it to allow the circulation in the play space so I just wanted
clarity because in one of the renderings you show the play space being attached to the Rite Aid where
the entrance is and the little Rite Aid roof tower is and this shows it currently behind
it where you've got a very narrow drive aisle to the rear fence and so i'm just trying to
really understand the relationship between the parking the road access the circulation
drive and this outdoor play space um i can answer that vern go ahead ma go ahead very good uh so
So the initial survey was with the architectures.
We can have them supply you guys with an exterior drawing for the sidewalks and the crosswalks
between curbside of Bluegrass Road, as well as Welsh Road.
When we ended up speaking with our civil engineer, as well as our architect plans in terms of
renderings, this was just a proposed idea for two different segments, whether we would
utilize the backspace where the dumpster area is for the pickup or a corner to the side, to the
right side of the entrance of the Rite Aid daycare. So what we ended up doing is we chose the latter.
So when you enter through Welsh Road, the idea is we just want to lower as much traffic from Welsh
Road as possible. So if you were driving down towards Welsh Road with the old Bank of America
facing in front of you, instead of the individuals having to cross, make a right, enter Bluegrass
road they would make a right going towards uh the global learning academy and then they would start
the loop um for pick up and drop off so they would go all the way down to the end of the building
make a right make a right and then go on and so forth uh cross-referencing pick up and drop off
uh the parking area and i'm glad that you've noticed that you are right the parking area
uh was uh one of the renderings that we've made uh just to see what we can play with if we were
to utilize a really big playground area for the kids, but that would kind of obstruct the idea
of having sufficient parking. So what we can do is I can send you guys a finalized rendering with
our architectural plans of where the play area will be, which will be on the cornered side of
the Rite Aid. If you guys were to pull up 2503 Welsh Road on the maps, you would see that there
is about five or six parking lots on the corner side of the property that's far away from
everything which would have the playground area as well okay i mean i hear you and i think that's
great but that this right now to me like my only major concern right now is an exterior you didn't
really have a ton of things to show for the interior it's a pretty much open floor space
and all you were adding was mostly bathrooms so i think like to understand the circulation
between people being dropped off uh youth um i just want to make sure that there's safe egress
for the youth that are in uh what are the barriers i think those are where all of my questions have
to deal with safety as it relates to the we can since we have to come back anyway after the september
ninth rco meeting uh if if the members of the board and the chairman will allow uh we'll be
able to supplement uh with with a more detailed uh site plan that shows all identifies all of the
sort of touch points that uh that you're that you're requesting we can do that at the resumption
hearing be happy to do i think also just to make sure like for the like i would uh get streets to
do a preliminary review of whatever your dry value plan is because it currently has three um
Um, three curb cuts with a lot of the access being on a much wider road, which is the bluegrass
road. And that's the side that you're planning to strike. So, um, I would be curious if you're
I would be curious if that if they're going to approve that as a traffic circulation, since there was no traffic study done for the site.
there, if they're going to approve that as a traffic circulation.
We can do that and then trash questions.
Trash, we did speak to trash, but I understand you might want that on the site plan.
You did. I went on the site plan also where it's currently shown in real life. You have something else being shown. So, since this is all hardscape now, I just would like to understand.
I understand. Yep, we can get a more sophisticated site plan with that. No problem.
Questions? Sure. I just had Lynn Riedelhuber, board council. I had a couple questions. I
apologize if this was asked and answered. How many children are you expecting at this location?
Yusuf?
so at this current location uh depending on how the the the structure with the bathrooms
and the closets and whatnot uh the final say obviously goes to the state but we are anticipating
i want to say between 80 to 90. um i think then amended refusal will have to be because
this is a group child care which i believe the maximum is 12. i'm sorry say it again
you applied for a group child care which the maximum is 12 i believe so take care
no you you applied for a group child care
okay that'll be easy to remedy but thank you okay and the next is uh with regard to park so you need
going to need amended refusal on that but with regard to parking i think you indicated you're