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ZBA Hearing - November 9, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Nov 9, 20226h 28m

Are you for or against the project?

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I'm strongly against the project.

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And you're a neighbor, Lois?

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Yes, I am.

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I live at 1202 Reed Street.

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Lois, thank you so much for your comments.

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Who else in the virtual audience?

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chair next we have camille last name beginning with b as a boy how many more do we have there

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chair we have one we have four there just for just for the record i object the last um

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witnesses testimony ms jenky i believe she testified her address is 1202

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i hear you leo i hear you leo thank you all right who's next

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chair camille begin last name beginning with b as in boy you're on hi could you state your name

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and spell for the court reporter um hello um chairman bergman uh this is camille basholey

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and patrick duffy we are the owners of the property so so we we understand where you are

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we we we know what i want to do is get the rest of the people who have something to say

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My apology is out.

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No, no, no.

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Don't worry about it.

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We just want to make sure that you're aware that we are here.

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Thank you.

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We know you're here.

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We know you're here.

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Who else is next?

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Next year, we have Jonathan McDonald.

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All right.

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Mr. McDonald, could you state your name and spell for the court reporter?

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Mr. McDonald, you are muted.

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mr mcdonald i'm back i'm here could you state your name is spelled for a court reporter

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jonathan mcdonald j-o-n-a-t-h-a-n-m-c-d-o-n-a-l-d right do you swear for him to tell the truth

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the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do mr mcdonald are you a neighbor i am 12 26 read

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Okay. Mr. McDonough, we've heard both sides of this. Please tell us, are you for this or against

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it? For. Okay. Thank you very much for your time and effort calling.

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Okay, thank you very much for your time and effort calling.

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Just for the purpose of the rest, Mr. McDonald, are you still on the line?

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One moment, I'll try to get him back.

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If not, I think we have his reasons.

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No, there's something else, Chair.

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Okay.

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Go ahead, get him back online.

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He is online.

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Yeah, Mr. McDonald, please unmute yourself, you're free to speak.

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Me?

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go ahead leo mr mcdonald i'm counsel for the applicant in this matter mr mcdonald do you

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know me yes sir okay you're also an attorney correct that's correct have we worked together

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before yes the fact that we have worked together that you know me in any way influence uh your

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vote in this matter no i didn't know that you were involved in this until i logged on thank you all

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All right. Thank you. Thank you, Leo. Thank you, Mr. McDonald.

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No problem. Who's next?

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Okay, Chair, we have Clara, last name ending in R.

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Hi. State your name and spell for the court reporter, please.

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My name is Clara Rottalk. It's spelled C-L-A-R-A-R-O-T-T-S-O-L-K.

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You swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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We've heard both sides of this. Are you for or against this?

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I'm against passing it this time. I would support a continuance to more thoroughly consider the impact of traffic and noise and trash on the street.

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Thank you so much for calling. How many people do we have left in the audience?

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Two more hands, Sheriff.

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Okay.

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Next is Daniel, last name beginning with D, as in dog.

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Hi, could you state your name, please, as a call for court reporter?

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Sure.

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My name is Daniel Driscoll, last name D-R-I-S-C-O-L-L, unrelated to the previous Driscoll.

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I was going to ask that question.

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Do you swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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We've heard both sides of this, Mr. Driscoll.

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Where do you stand on this?

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I am definitely against, and I was hoping that Mr. Mulvihill would explain why he says

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the property has always been commercial in his sworn testimony.

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Well, we're not going to ask Mr. Mogahill questions. You're against it. Are you a neighbor, sir?

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I am a neighbor.

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Okay. Thank you very much for calling. One more.

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Chair, we have Michael, last name beginning with H as in Henry.

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Okay. Michael, state your name and spell for the court reporter.

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Hello?

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Hi.

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hi yes it's lisa state your name and spell for court reporter please it's actually lisa hallowell

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h-a-l-l-o-w-e-l-l right do you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the

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truth i do we've heard both sides of this are you for this or against it completely against it

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and you were neighbor i am okay thank you very much for your calls we're going to go to the

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planning commission planning commission this is ron bednar city planning property is indicated for

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residential and the city plan our adopted district plan recommends no changes to the existing zoning

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at this location the applicant's hardship is not supported with evidence of unique

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physical circumstances or condition of the property that would prevent it from being

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using conformity with the code therefore we recommend quest for vanity it's not regret

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thank you we're going to hold the vote on this uh chair of the mobile mr all the hill you're

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going to reapply or i'm going to do what's necessary yes chair there's one thing thank

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you the only thing i wanted to add to the record is this there was testimony in the chat from

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somebody who left who stated that they lived at 1420 south 13th street our subject property was

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occupied up until a couple of years ago when the owner passed away his son lives in the building

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until it was for sale and it was not vacant for eight years okay thank you very much thank you

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much mr mobile thank you for your time we're going to move on to the next case mr chair mr

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chair i just want to note um for um for the record that that this case is closed other than the

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receipt of the amended refusal.

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They should close

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other than the receipt of the amended

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refusal.

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Case number

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8, MI 2021

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002

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920

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3245 North

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27th Street.

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Brandy Talley is the owner.

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Letter of support from the Community

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from the Community Action Group. Brandy Talley. Ms. Kelly is coming back in as a panelist.

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Action Group.

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Brandy Talley.

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Ms.

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Hello. Hi Ms. Talley, how are you? Fine, how are you? Could you state your name and spell for the

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court reporter, please. Brandy Talley, B-R-A-N-D-I-T-A-L-L-E-Y. Right. Do you swear or affirm

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to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? Yes. Our vice chair has a few questions

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for you. Good evening. Good evening. The exhibit packet was proof of ownership, tax compliance,

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a copy of the refusal or referral, photos and or plans of the property five days in advance of this

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hearing and have you met with the RCO and do you have a letter? Yes. Okay this is an application

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for use as a child care center as part of an existing single family dwelling in an existing

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structure. There are no signs on this application. There are two use refusals. The proposed use

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child care center is expressly prohibited in RSA 5 residential zoning district. The second refusal

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is this creates a condition of multiple principal uses, and this is not permitted.

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You may proceed and begin sharing your screen.

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Okay. I have support letters from both the...

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Can you begin to share your screen?

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Yes.

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Please.

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Sure.

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can you see my screen yeah no

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and mr chair we do have a letter of support from community action group yeah yeah

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ma'am are you on a computer okay yep

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okay we see it now yeah yep okay this is just a little is it possible to make it just a little

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bit bigger that's good that's good thank you okay i have a letter from the rco and the affected

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RCOs, the Community Action Group

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and the Swampoodle

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RCO. Okay.

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This is my refusal letter.

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The first refusal is

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the multiple

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principle.

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I have since

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putting the pill in,

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I have moved from the property, so it's

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now all used as a child

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cure.

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This is my

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do you guys need to see my lease

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stating that I'm moving?

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okay let me see

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you have a picture of the outside of the property?

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yes I have the picture of the outside

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this is one way

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then I have the picture of the other way

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this is the backyard of the property

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this is the inside of the property everything is already um set up as a child care center

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we are now in a group this is the upstairs area

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this is the downstairs this is the second level

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is this on the corner property no it's not a corner property it's um it's like four doors

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from the corner how long have you operated this this is this is my fifth year december

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fourth will be my fifth year in operation okay all right um

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okay questions from the board no mr chairman

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no mr chairman uh questions or comments from the virtual audience

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i see no hand shared and you say swampy i'm sorry a calling user just put their hand up

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okay phone number ending in three five five two please i think that's one

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hello

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phone number ending in 3552 you're free to speak in your

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Phone number ending in 3552.

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You're free to speak and you're unmuted.

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I don't know.

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Mr. Chair, this is Hillary.

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Oh, there she is.

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Okay, sorry.

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I had my mute on.

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I'm sorry.

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Could you state your name, please, and spell for the court reporter?

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Yes, this is Adrienne Fernandez.

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That's my last name, spelled F-E-R-N-E-N-D-E-Z.

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You've already been sworn.

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Okay.

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Our support letter was already in the file because this case was continued.

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So we had a letter dated for May 31st, and we have been working with Brandy for a while,

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both RCOs, because she did actually present in person before COVID.

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So both RCOs in Toronto support her project.

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Okay.

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thank you for taking the time of the calls

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thank you very much

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Mr. Chair

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Ms. Fernandez had just

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forwarded me the support letter back

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from May and there was a request

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for a proviso for

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internal trash and recycling

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storage

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yes thank you

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yes we had one proviso request

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okay thank you

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is there anyone else

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in the virtual audience

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I see no hands chair

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Planning Commission this is Ron Bednar city planning the property is indicated for residential

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use on a city planner adopted district plan recommends no change to the existing zoning at

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this location the applicant's hardship is not supported with evidence of unique physical

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circumstances or condition of the property that would prevent it from being used in conformity

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