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ZBA Hearing - January 22, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 22, 20257h 43m

truth nothing but the truth yes i swear please proceed counsel mr hannam did you hear the

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statements that i presented to the board today yes i did were my statements true and correct

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to the best of your knowledge information and belief yes they were would you adopt my statements

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as your own yes no further questions questions from the board yes i have a question what is

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the width of the side yard access the breezeway that's a great question i don't have that exact

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measurement but it might be referenced in the deed which is exhibit 11 um

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yeah it's not shown on the way it looks like it says a three foot wide alley is there any plan

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for lights in that alleyway

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well currently question

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william can you address whether you intend to install lights along the side of the property

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um yeah the floor plan that you saw is basically um supposed to be a pretty accurate draft and we

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didn't think about that but it is a great idea and now that i'm thinking about it um it's something

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we'd probably like to add also is there a controlled access point at the street line

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or at the sidewalk at the edge of your property

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um can you elaborate what you mean by controlled access point

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Yeah. Right now, there's a gate. There is a gate.

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And is your plan to keep that existing gate?

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Yes.

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Okay. Other questions for the board?

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Just confirm your width for your interest.

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just confirm your widths for your entry doors

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and the width for your hallway and stairway to the second floor.

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Yep, they will all be code widths,

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three feet wide hallway and three feet wide door.

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I know it's shown a little less on the plan.

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The plan is a draft just for visual reference at this moment.

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where are the tenants uh to put their trash so all units will have access to the rear yard of

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the property to have it in stored trash containers to be brought out on trash day the first floor

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unit does have access to the basement if they wanted to have containers down there as well

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but most of the neighbors on the block seem to keep their trash in the receptacles at the rear

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and bring them out on trash day the goal is to keep them off the front porch

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which right now we have an occupant so all tenants will have access to the rear right

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correct because the side alley will provide access to both tenants thank you other questions

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from the board one more question the basement has no egress to the backyard correct correct

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questions or comments there's just a window

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not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the audience

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questions or comments from the virtual audience

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i see no hands at this time chair mining commission

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good morning mr chair dan powers at the city planning commission

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the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the rsa5 residential single family zoning at this

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location the property has a use permit on file from 1979 nothing about this property has changed

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since then there's no unique physical condition or circumstance of this property that would prevent

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it from being used in strict conformity with the zoning code this is a primarily single family

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block face the city planning commission recommends that the board denied the proposed use variants

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for two dwelling units thank you mi2024-005-495-1502 south 52nd street i vote yes

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Michael Johns, my vote is yes

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes

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Tynetta Graham, my vote is yes

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Tywin, my vote is yes

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Thank you, counsel

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Thank you, counsel

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Number 8

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MI2024-005-514-2323

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East Susquehanna Avenue

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Henry Clinton is the attorney

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There's a letter of support from the Fishtown Neighbors Association

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The vote was 32 to 6, and a letter of non-opposition from Council Member Squill.

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Henry Clinton will be rejoining us as a panelist.

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Morning, Mr. Chairman.

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Good morning, Council.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Sure.

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Henry Clinton, H-E-N-R-Y, Clinton, C-L-I-N-T-O-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Could you identify your client, the relationship to this property?

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Sure. I have two clients, Thomas Zopp, C-Z-O-P, and Cara Ferencina, F-R-E-S-I-N-A.

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Thank you. Our vice chair has a few questions.

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Good morning, counsel. Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal or stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits that's needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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I have, except the tax information came in a day or two ago.

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Thank you, counsel. You've already sent that in, correct?

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Mr. Clinton?

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Pardon me, I didn't hear you.

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I said you have sent it in already, right?

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Yes. Yes, sir.

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Thank you. Please proceed and share your screen.

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Thank you, Mr. Sheen.

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Is that visible, Mr. Chairman?

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It is. It is, sir.

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All right. Just by way of background, I had this project before the board in 2022.

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It was seemingly approved for everything we asked for, but there was one small item that was not approved.

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It was a rear step to a deck. I'll show you the photographs.

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So we're coming back again with a new owner. I was representing a prior owner.

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He sold the property to my current clients, and so we're asking for relief, basically for a six-inch high exterior step, which I'll explain as we move through this presentation.

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Table of contents, A1 through A10.

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Refusal.

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This is a single-family zoning district, and you'll see the erection of a rear deck and existing single-family dwelling, as shown on the plan.

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as shown on the plan. The fence is not part of this application because it was part of the prior

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The fence is not part of this application because it was part of the prior.

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application. We have a simple refusal for stairs from the ground level to the deck

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are expressly prohibited in an attached structure, and it's only a single step.

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We met with Fishtown Neighbors Association, overwhelming support this time, as well as

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in 2022. They were curious as to why we came before them again, but again, it just was a

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quirk in the system where this step did not get approved. This is their explanation letter,

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and you can see the community had supported prior building the fence in 2022, and then the new owner

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and the community believed the stairs behind the fence had been approved as part of that plan,

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But unfortunately, that was not the case.

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This is the letter of support from 2022.

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Again, it was overwhelming back then as it is now.

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The signatures that I've attached are signatures from the prior plan.

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I don't mean to suggest that we went around and got more signatures.

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We already had approval.

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So I thought it would be helpful to have these signatures in my presentation today.

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So this is a corner property, and what we got approved previously was this deck and this fence.

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What the issue is before the board is this single step outside the deck.

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You need this step to step up and enter the fence and walk onto the deck.

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But Ellen I points this out as still an issue, and this is the sole reason we're coming before the board is to approve this single step.

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So I hope I don't lose your attention on this presentation because of this simple matter.

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This is the corner property.

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Here's the side yard.

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The step is where my cursor is.

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I have closer photographs.

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This is a ground level view of the property.

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There's an outside storage shed, which has been approved or really just receptacle to put trash in.

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The step is beyond where that container is.

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You can see it right here in this photograph.

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Again, just giving you an aerial photograph perspective.

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It's a side yard of a corner property.

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And here's a closer view of the step leading into the fenced deck area.

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The plans, this was existing.

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This is the demo plan.

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This is the building plan.

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And this is the undercarriage plan that supports the deck.

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I think it's better that you could look at the site plan.

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Again, a corner property, the deck fence previously approved.

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And here's the single step, which is outside on the sidewalk.

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Now, we did need to get streets approval for both the outside receptacle as well as the step.

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And we've received that.

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So that's really the presentation in a nutshell.

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We're coming back again to complete what we thought was completed in 2022.

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As I said several times, we had the deck approved.

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This board approved it in 2022.

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We had the fence approved.

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But for whatever reason, this dangling participle here, this step, did not get an approval.

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So we're not impacting any lighter air of any adjacent property, obviously.

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This is in harmony with the neighborhood.

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It's a residential use.

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We have the full support of the community, and it's basically in harmony with the code.

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So with that, I would conclude this presentation and ask my client to unmute himself.

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Thomas, can you raise your hand, please?

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Do we see his client?

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Jason C. Z. has been allowed to speak.

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It's Jason. I said Thomas.

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Good morning. Good morning, sir.

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could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Morning. My name is Jason Cazop.

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It's spelled J-A-S-O-N-C-Z-O-P.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Jason, were you on the call when I presented your project before the board a few minutes ago?

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Yes, I was.

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And if you had the opportunity to testify, would you adopt my testimony as your own?

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And that's true and correct.

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Yes, I would.

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Thank you, Jason.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board.

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That door swings out as shown on your plan.

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Yes, Mr. Johns.

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That's an issue.

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I think the code requires that there be a landing if your door is swinging that way, so it makes sense that it swings in.

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I think the code requires that there be a landing if your door is swinging that way.

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So it makes sense.

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Yeah, I think someone asked that question in the neighborhood, so I think you're good to pick up on that.

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And since this storage shed is here, it's kind of the swing of the door comes out onto the same plane as that.

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And the issue was, could a wheelchair still get by?

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and yeah that's that's not my point though my point is that when you open it the billing code

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requires that if you swing a door there should be a landing right um so there should be a landing

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you swing the door in

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so then you would like to have the door swing in yeah yeah okay just for you know some

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someone doesn't come out and trip.

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Or make the step longer.

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Then you've got a streets,

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imagine a streets issue.

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You'd have to go back for streets approval

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unless you're within the line of, say,

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the existing steps next door, which is fine.

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Right.

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Well, I guess I'll have the client make the decision.

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Could we have a provisor that we have one or the other?

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Yeah, I don't have a preference.

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But that's my only issue.

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What's the proviso, Henry?

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I think Mr. Johns would like to see either the door swing in or the step be extended no further than the steps on the adjacent property.

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Well, it would be a landing at the level of the concrete slab and then a step.

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But then it probably makes them more sense and easier and cheaper to swing the door in.

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Okay.

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You know what I mean?

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Yes. All right.

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Hillary.

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I'm just looking, I mean, because the scope is only for the stairs and not for the fence.

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And the door is part of the fence. Is that correct?

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Correct, which was already approved, but I understand John's is concerned.

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So then we have no jurisdiction then, I guess.

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No, we're only looking at the step.

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If there's a proviso related to the step, excuse me, I can look into that.

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But if they're, yeah, with relation to the dorks as part of an already approved fence, I don't think we could do something there.

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