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ZBA Hearing - January 22, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 22, 20257h 43m

Other questions from the board?

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No worries.

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Hillary, questions? Any additional questions?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Comments from the audience?

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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Yes, Chair. I have a hand up by the name of Robert Everett.

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They have been promoted to panelists.

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Good morning, Mr. Everett.

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Mr. Everett?

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Chair, they might be having technical difficulties.

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Yeah, well, he's from the Fishtown Neighbors Association.

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Okay.

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Anyone else in the virtual audience?

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There are no more hands at this time, Chair.

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Planning Commission.

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Good morning, Mr. Chair.

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Dan Powers with the City Planning Commission.

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This step appears to be in the public footway

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and outside of the scope of our recommendations

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to the Zoning Board. Thank you. MI 2024-005-514-2323 East

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Tuscant Avenue, I vote yes. Michael Johns, my vote is yes. Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes.

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Tynetta Graham, my vote is yes. Tywin, my vote is yes. Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes.

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thank you Mr. Chairman members of the board thank you counsel number 16 MI 2024

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005 574 1510 North 25th Street Zen Jin is the attorney

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good morning counsel this is the first time in three years that we've seen you because this is

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the first so so we appreciate you coming today uh could you state your name and spell for the

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stenographer okay good morning again uh my name is zen jen z h e n last name is

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Good morning again. My name is Zen Jin, Z-H-E-N. Last name is J-I-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Could you identify your client, the relationship to the property?

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Yes. My client is Olympic...

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One second, I'm sorry.

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It's Olympia Stillman LLC.

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Mr. Shagai Bader will be the representative for the company.

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And I understand that there's a letter of non-opposition

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from the Brewery Town Chargedwood Civic Association.

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Yes, we were able to work out a CBA with the community.

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Okay, and our vice chair has a few questions.

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Of course.

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Good morning, counsel.

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Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal or stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits

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that's needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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We submitted all exhibits except for the RCO letter, which was just received yesterday,

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which was submitted yesterday. Understood. Thank you. Please proceed and share your screen.

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Thank you. I'm going to share with the board the previously submitted exhibits.

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If I could be made a panelist so I could share. I'll raise my hand.

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I am sharing with the board what was previously submitted as exhibits.

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Can the board see that exhibit on their screen?

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I can, sir.

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Thank you.

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This is an application for what is essentially currently a vacant lot to be used as a three-family dwelling.

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The location of the property makes this application a multifamily for the reason that we have a lot that is abutted on one side with a very large REM1 17-unit property.

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We are part of a small group of single-family lots on that block.

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Behind our lot is also RM1 property. Across the street from our lot, currently there are permits,

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because it's RM1 as well, there are currently permits for five buildings to be built of multiple

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different levels of multifamily. When we met with the RCO, it did come to our attention that

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one of the buildings on the other side in fact immediately abutting our property is a single

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family property that owner was present and the particular concern of that owner was primarily

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relating to building construction safety and that their property would not get damaged

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the community's particular concern was parking as well as trash management

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um egress and finally uh the developments um displacing the residents in the area who may

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not be financially well off as a result we worked out a cba with the community to make sure at least

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one of the units would follow the low income requirements of the city of philadelphia uh per

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the, I believe it's the annual income percentage rate requirements to set the rent to permit a

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lower income person to have access to the unit. So Breitown, Charlotte, issued a non-opposition

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as a result. They also discussed the same issues before the board that I just represented in their

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letter. I'm going to go ahead and move to the photo of the site. This site, again, as the board

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can see, we are the vacant lot that is kind of filling on the block. The picture showing the

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larger gray building here is the multi-unit building. They have about, I believe, per their

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permit, 17 units in there. It's a combined lot of three or four lots. On this side, you can see in

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this photograph that is the single family structure across the street right now the construction i'm

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not sure what the status of construction of that is but i see permits being pulled for plumbing

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etc however if we were to look at a google map right now it would not show the buildings on the

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map it would still show the vacant lot the plan of the property design is to match the building's

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height and front design and levels to the single family to our right as you're facing

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right as you're facing the property. It is a three-story structure design with the same height

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the property it is a three-story structure design

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as the single-family property. Although that property to our left is a four-story design,

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we feel that it would be more fitting to go with the three-story fitting the existing building to

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the right. So from a height standpoint and front facade will look very similar to the existing

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building to our right the layout of the property as far as the floor plans are concerned

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i'm going to scroll down to that and zoom in for the board so the way the floor plans are laid out

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the first floor and basement will be a combined one unit accessed from the front the second and

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third floor access through the same front entrance goes into a stair central stair stairwell space

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where they can access a front and back those are actually covering both the second and third floor

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their front and back by levels giving it more of a feel of a by-level house rather than just

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purely an apartment running the entire floor so the second unit would be the front half and then

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the third unit will be the back half with the bedrooms on the third floor the living kitchen

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on the second floor with the first unit the bedrooms are in the back of the building on

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the first floor with the living room in the front and then a then flex space on the on the in the

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basement for the purpose they could if they choose to use it as a workout space or anything that

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would be fine as well we're trying to make sure that all the sleeping quarters are on the first

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floor and not below level the building has a an easement access way allowing everyone to be able

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to follow the side of the building which will be left with the access way to the rear yard which

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is enclosed trash will be stored back there would only be brought out during the time that a pickup

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is needed during our discussion with the community we indicated that lights will be placed in the

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alley the community suggested a gate to be placed in the front which will be done so keys will be

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given to all the residents um and security camera will be placed front and back to make sure

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the alleyway is uh secure and and uh have have coverage with security cameras so that is

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excuse me can you zoom and zoom out a little bit so we can see all floors four plans at once okay

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much better thank you so again the alleyway is here it can be accessed through the side of the

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property and again here's the rear yard where the trash storage would be so that is the proposal

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that we have there is no roof deck there are no roof deck or is roof deck being proposed in this

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property at all and that again was not brought up as an issue with the community so once we went

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back and worked out with the community, the one unit being designated for lower income.

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We have received their non-opposition in this particular application.

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So with that, I would ask the board's a favorable review of this application.

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I am happy to answer any additional questions, and I believe my client is here to verify

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my testimony.

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Why don't you bring your client?

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Sure.

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Mr. Bader, can you raise your hand virtually to be identified?

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do we see mr bader yes shakai vader has been allowed to speak yeah hello hi sir could you

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please state your name and spell for the stenographer yeah my name is shakai vader

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c-h-a-g-a-i my last name vader b-a-d-e-r you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth

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nothing but the truth yes please proceed counsel thank you uh mr bader did you hear my testimony

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and see the representation and the presentation before the board yes um can you verify to the

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board what i've represented true and correct including the cba terms yes thank you

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questions or comments from the board can you tell me the building site again please

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the building height

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Mr. Bader

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do you happen to know the building height off hand

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or I can go back to the plan

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I believe it is

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38

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I will zoom

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into the

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zoom into the height

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I apologize, I'm trying to get to the elevation.

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I apologize. I'm trying to get to the elevations.

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Here it is.

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35 feet at the roof level.

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Thank you.

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And just for a point, Council, the building next door, the one with all the units is four floors?

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Yes.

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All right. And then the other one is the same as this?

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Yes. The other building will be 35-foot, three-story.

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All right. Other questions?

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What's the width of the side alley?

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The side alley...

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It says three feet on your elevation on this.

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And then at the ground floor, what is the sort of barrier at that light well that's on the side?

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Is it a...

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This light well here?

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No, the one on the side.

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This one?

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No.

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I'm sorry.

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If you're walking down the side alley, it's the light well that's about halfway down.

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Oh, this light well.

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Yes.

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What's the security feature at the ground level?

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Well, the light well itself will be accessible to the tenants.

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Is there a grate?

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Is there...

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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The light well ends at the ground level.

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It doesn't go underground.

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It's showing in the basement plan.

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oh it is it is yeah is there going to be a grill that's going to be over that light well

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or a fence or or a fence

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i'm sorry let me go back to the yes normally we put the grill is the normally normally you

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put grail would you be okay with putting a fence there as well no problem thank you i just wanted

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I didn't know it was being addressed.

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I'm not trying to propose offense.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Other questions from the board?

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Depth of the basement below grade.

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Basement slab below grade.

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What's the depth?

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The depth below grade.

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i believe it might be on the elevation side here we go

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nothing nothing shows just a zero and then says cellar floor there's no

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oh there's no height indicated do you happen to know the um proposed basement

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depth that's below grade what's the total depth of the basement um i think it was

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i don't remember maybe six seven feet somewhere left uh total yes so so do you would you happen

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to be able to tell what the below grade portion would be

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we have one feet for the footing and the rest is need to be like it's around

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seven seven i think seven feet something like six seven feet under the water yes seven feet below

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grade i don't i don't i don't think that's true this kind of need it for more more information

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on the documents because it it doesn't show i don't think i saw that you that you that it

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shows what it is from the from the plans it looks like a part of it will be above grade and then

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there will be a portion of it below grade um we can update the board certainly with that actual

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actual depth if that is uh one of the concerns yeah it's it's always it's a real concern with

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for me um because once you go six seven feet below grade you know your folks are living

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completely underground. Understood. So that's a real concern for me. Okay, other questions from the board?

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Questions or comments from the audience?

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience? I see no hands at this time, Chair.

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planning we're going to bring this back but do you want to vote on it now i can do that mr chair

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uh dan powers at the city planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no change to

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the rsa5 residential single family zoning at this location in july 2024 the city issued a zoning

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permit to split a formally combined law into two one would be zoned rm1 residential multifamily

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on Stillman Street and the other will be zoned RSA 5 on 25th Street. The city then issued a

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zoning permit on August 2024 for 14 dwelling units for the Stillman Street lot. The appeal

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