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ZBA Hearing - February 5, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 5, 20257h 1m

into my bedroom the balcony i'm asking about the addition um of the additional living space

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Well, when it does, it puts more people in the neighborhood, more transportation. If you've got three different apartments with three different cars and we don't have enough parking space as it is now.

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Okay, we had testimony about parking right before.

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Okay, she asked me a question.

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I understand. Jennifer, you're done?

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That's it for now, yes.

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Okay, thank you. Next person, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Part of my interrupting, Chair, just a reminder for the board and for the audience, we have a hard stop at 1 o'clock from 1 to 2.

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We're coming up on 1245.

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I understand.

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Good morning.

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State your name.

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Good morning, Mr. Chairman.

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My name is Dante Leonard, spelled D-A-N-T-E, Leonard, L-E-O-N-A-R-D.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, sir.

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All right. So, sir, where we are now, I'm going to ask you, are you in favor of this project or against?

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Against.

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Thank you very much. Jennifer, do you have any comments?

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No.

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Could you please state your name?

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My name is Carol Morris, C-A-R-O-L-M-O-R-R-I-S.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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Yes.

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Thank you very much. Jennifer, do you have any comments?

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No.

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All right. Next person.

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Excuse me, Mr. Chairman.

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Yeah.

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If you allow, can I give some context as to who I am in this neighborhood in regards to, so my name is Dante Leonard. I am a citizen planner. I was up until about a year ago, the commercial corridor manager with the Department of Commerce for Lancaster Avenue.

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And I also work with the New Freedom District for the city, for the plan that's being adopted by the city.

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And I just want to let you know that this is a community that is trying to gain agency and bring the people together.

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I live right there.

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I own three houses that are, my house are on 43rd Street, on 43rd and Westminster, and on 43rd Street itself.

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The developer, they have not reached out to anyone.

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a lot of the people that have signed those 16 notices are people that i don't want to use the

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word cursed but people that a real conversation was not had with and i feel as though that when

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the times come that the people that they will could have good dialogue with they steer clear

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of those thank you very much all right thank you all right um you'd state your name please

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spell for the stenographer my name is deborah spears i'm the one they call debbie you're good

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am the actual neighbor of the property okay do you swear or affirm to tell the truth told you

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is nothing but the truth i do um please please well let me ask you this are you for the project

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or against very much again all right thank you very much do you have any questions to that person

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do you have any questions to that person? I do, yes. I would like to ask her how

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I do yes

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um

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the additional square footage and the railing location negatively impacts her.

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First of all, just get a little closer to the mic. First of all, just let me say I'm

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not being disrespectful to anybody. Angela has been getting on my nurse since she bought that

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property in 2018. Do me a favor, try to answer what she just asked you.

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As far as the railing, put an additional third railing or additional on top of that roof next to me with Ryla.

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It looks like it's going to be in my yard.

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They'll be looking down at me in my backyard.

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I enjoy my yard, so I don't want that additional to me.

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I don't want no rooftop.

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I don't want none of that.

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And as far as the additional for bathroom, I have me and kids, and we live with one bathroom.

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We did okay.

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So I don't know why they're talking about this bathroom and all the other stuff that they need.

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All right.

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I just don't want that rooftop over me looking at my yard.

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Jennifer, do you have any other questions for that person?

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No.

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Sir, could you state your name and spell it for the stenographer?

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Okay.

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Credit Frank Edwards.

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Okay.

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I've lived there since I've...

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Excuse me.

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No, you've got to spell your name for me.

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Oh, P-R-E-T-T-I-S.

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Right.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole...

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Yes, I swear to tell the truth on God's name.

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Listen to me, you've got to calm down.

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Excuse me.

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I'm going to ask you this.

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Okay.

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are you in favor of this project or against neither one okay what where do you stand then

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i stand as a family with my family see around that neighborhood we all family okay we got

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grandmothers aunts cousins brothers sisters and the thing about it that house i know that house

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personally since i was a little boy okay i know the owner i know who owned it the mother i know

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i understand okay but do you understand this that neighborhood we all family good good thank you

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very much jennifer do you have any questions of that no is there anyone else um is there anyone

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on the virtual audience yes chair i have three hands up the first one is jennifer rock

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has been promoted.

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All right.

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Could you please state your name

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as spelled for the stenographer?

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No, no, no.

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Now, one minute, one minute.

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Now, Jennifer's on the virtual way.

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Why don't you sit down?

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Go ahead, sit down.

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Could you please state your name

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as spelled for the stenographer?

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Yes, my name is Jennifer Rock.

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Hold on, Jennifer.

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Jennifer, wait one minute. Please proceed.

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Hello, I'm Stephanie Collins.

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I am... Spell your name.

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S-T-E-P-H-A-N-I-E.

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Collins, C-O-L-L-I-N-S.

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Would you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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Against.

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Thank you very much. You have any questions, Jennifer?

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No.

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Ma'am, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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My name is Thelma, T-H-E-L-M-A, Brinkley, B-R-I-N-K-L-E-Y.

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Do you swear or affirm that tell the truth to all truth is nothing?

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I'm for to tell the truth.

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All right, thank you.

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Are you for this project or against it?

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I'm against it.

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Thank you very much.

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Do you have any questions, Jennifer?

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No.

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Sir, could you please state your name?

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Edward Hill, P-D-W-A-R-D-H-I-L-L.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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Against it.

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Thank you very much for coming in.

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Jennifer, do you have any comments?

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No.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Kathleen Goodman.

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C-A-T-H-L-E-N-E Goodman.

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G-O-O-D-M-A-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Ms. Goodman, are you in favor of this project or against?

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Yes.

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Are you in favor of it or against it?

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Against it.

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Thank you very much. Jennifer, do you have any questions?

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No.

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Jennifer Rock, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Yes, my name is Jennifer Rock, J-E-N-N-I-F-E-R, last name Rock, R-O-C-K.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Are you a neighbor?

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Yes.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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Against it.

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Thank you very much. Jennifer, do you have any comments there?

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No.

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Do we have anyone else?

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Yes, Chair.

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Excuse me.

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I have Breonna Johnson will be promoted.

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Okay.

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Do you have any more hands after that?

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Yes.

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There are two more.

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Two more.

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Okay.

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Hi, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Hi, good morning.

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My name is Brianna Johnson, B-R-I-A-N-N-A, Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-O-N.

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Brianna, do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Brianna, are you a neighbor?

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Yes, I live at 4249.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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I'm against it.

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Thank you very much. Jennifer, do you have any comments?

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Yes, I would. Since she's the next-door neighbor, I would just like to ask her again how the additional 147 square feet to the rear of the property would have a negative impact on her.

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I think she's disappeared.

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Okay.

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Okay. Next hand, please.

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Hi, I'm still here. She gave me access again.

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Brianna, did you hear that question?

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Yes, I sure did.

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It directs me personally.

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I've only lived at 42, 49 for the past 30 years.

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And I do understand we have two bathrooms.

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It's been multiple people living in my house, three to four, where we had maintained with two bathrooms.

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We didn't have to build anything additional, go up, go down, go back, go forward.

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We maintained in the single family household that we had.

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We maintained and we made it through these past couple of years.

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So any additional going up, like my mom said, is looking directly into our backyard.

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Our backyard is not covered.

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we have the the gates on the outside but from the bird's eye view you'll be directly into my mom's

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yard it takes away all of our privacy as a family and i do understand i do want to make a profit

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but as miss glory did mention before it's way profitable to keep it at two levels the third

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level is just an additional profit that they just want to do just to add more people and crossing

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all boards when it comes to parking privacy older people that block is old thank you jennifer

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um i would just ask again um i don't how the difference of adding this additional rear space

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is any different than the buy right project for you as i look at the additional space on top if

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someone was to come out or look and i look out their window they're looking directly into my

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mother's property that's how it affects me personally is that look it's taking away all

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privacy that we have at 4249 if you keep it at the same level do you understand that the height

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and of the addition it's by right issue and that this portion can be built um no matter what

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i i understand that but i'm just saying my concerns as a neighbor and as someone who lives

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