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ZBA Hearing - October 29, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 29, 20255h 57m

immediate neighbors so did the rco support the legalization because everyone in that neighborhood

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knows this property knew mr de jesus and knew what he did to the property i'm going to show you

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the current value of the property and the cost of conversion and why it's all upside down and why

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what we're asking for because of this unique physical condition. There is, in fact, a hardship.

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My client did not create it. And granting the variance will not negatively impact anyone,

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light, air, congestion, or otherwise, because it has existed for nearly 20 years,

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actually over 20 years. Here's the valuation that we pulled recently, $117,400.

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Here are the costs of conversion.

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Here's one estimate at $200 a square foot, comes in just under $280,000 to convert.

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Second estimate was even more, ranging between $312,000 and $353,000.

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And that wasn't just assuming the property was in good condition without looking at inspection for termite damage, water damage, mold, or other extraordinary circumstances.

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circumstances. Now, in addition to the property being sold, my client being hoodwinked, thinking

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that he bought a three-family dwelling, not only did he get fooled in use, he actually got fooled

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as it relates to the meets and bounds of the property. A client assumes the property, as I

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I said did some minor cosmetic upgrades and also believe this was his yard.

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He put in a he put in a brand new fence because it was fenced before that was falling down.

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And that's what he believed the yard was until just recently.

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He gets this on his door. Sheriff's sale, rid of execution.

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that backyard is a whole other property that by the way he was not aware of and that backyard is

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And that backyard is being sold at sheriff's sale.

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being sold at sheriff's sale so not only did my client get

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So not only did my client get fooled as in relation to the use of the property, believing he was purchasing a three family dwelling when in fact he was not.

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He also believed he was purchasing a property with a sizable yard that he actually went and spent time and energy putting in a new fence only to learn subsequently that that's a whole other property, not even part of his deed that he is now losing.

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So because my client is a victim of circumstance here, did not create this hardship.

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And of course, we've already, I want to show you this as well.

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The council office also agreed.

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Just this week, she wrote another letter.

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This is the second letter in support of this legalization of the pre-existing non-conforming

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three-family household living.

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So because the council member and the council member's office knows this property as well.

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Again, Mr. DeJesus was a well-known person in the neighborhood.

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And he also put on a third floor.

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It's a whole other story.

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But since the council person understands this and supports this, since everyone within on that block, 26 signatures in support, knowing the long history,

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because my client is now not only lost the use, but now lost most of his yard.

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Because of the unfortunate circumstances, not being from Philadelphia originally, we're asking for relief, and we do hope you understand that our request is reasonable, and I respectfully request it.

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With that, I'd like Donovan Brady to come on at this point.

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Good afternoon, everyone.

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Hi, could you please state your name as Belfort Osteographer?

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Yes, my name is Donovan Brady, D-O-N-O-V-A-N, B-R-A-D-Y.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Counsel?

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Thank you. Mr. Brady, did you hear my presentation to the board this evening?

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Yes, I did.

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True and accurate to the best of your knowledge?

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Yes, it is.

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And do you adopt it as your own testimony?

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Yes, I do.

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I have nothing further, Mr. Chair.

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Questions from the board.

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Okay. I hear the tale of, well, I guess I'm just trying to figure out when this property was purchased.

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Did he have a lawyer? Did he have title insurance? Did he have anybody looking into the use, the meets and bounds description of what he was purchasing?

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He reasonably relied on the realtor who was selling the property. Like most Philadelphians, he did not hire a lawyer and purchase. Like most Philadelphians, there is no, especially when you're dealing with row homes, we all know, we don't do surveys when we buy row homes.

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I mean, it's just not a traditional thing to do. It was marketed as with with that big backyard.

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It was marketed as a three family dwelling. So he did not. The simple answer is no, he did not.

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He reasonably relied on the agent at that table. Yes, he got title insurance.

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But as you I believe, you know, Miss Gaston, they don't check for use.

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They did not. Everything that was before him when he signed pointed to a three family dwelling and and and everything that he everything that pointed to a big backyard.

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I hear you say that, but that's the whole point of having the title insurance so that there's somebody who, if there is some kind of, I don't know what to call this, error, mistake, whatever, that you can go to the title insurance company and say,

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hey you know you were supposed to um what i paid you for was to research um the title for the

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property only the title that's how they get out of it because it's only the title it's only

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easements it's only encumbrances it's only liens they do not and i've been before this board many

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times uh where uh for instance broad and ellsworth my client purchased an 11 unit building

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what spent over a million dollars it turned out what he actually bought was a funeral parlor and

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a duplex he didn't know that because title sailed right through the title does not check

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The title does not check or verify the legal use.

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or verify the legal use if they did

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If they did, we wouldn't be here.

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Okay.

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And then, okay, we'll go get past that.

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What happened with this third story now that's on this property?

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How did that happen?

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No, it was built.

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I mean, it was built legally.

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I wasn't indicating that it wasn't built.

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Are we sure?

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Because there's no permits that's been pulled on this property.

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Yeah. Well, there's no violations and there's no indication with regard.

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Violation does not mean it was done legally. It just means Ellen and I didn't get it done.

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That's true. We're going to find out if we are lucky enough to get a CO, right?

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You know, that's that's the goal here. This is going to be the safest house on the block.

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Once my client gets if he's lucky enough to get this variance, he has to go through the CO process.

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thank you

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and again none of that ever showed up on

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title or anything like that

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questions from our attorney

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not at this time

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questions from the virtual audience

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I see no hands chair

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planning commission

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we won't be changing our

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recommendation from the previous hearing

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Okay. So MI-2025-004-757-2963 North Barnes Street, I vote yes. Certificate of occupancy to be obtained.

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Michael Johns, my vote is yes, with proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is no.

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Tanetta Graham, my vote is yes, with proviso.

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okay tie it when my vote is no

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okay so we're hillary we're three two

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that is correct that's it is that the vote yes yes okay thank you so it's been granted thank you

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Thank you very much.

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Number three, MI 2025, 002-760-1267 South 18th Street.

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Eric Carroll is the attorney.

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And he's coming in now as a panelist here.

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Uh-huh.

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Letter of non-opposition from residents organized for advocacy and direction.

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Good afternoon, board. Eric Carroll, on behalf of the owner-applicant, T. Chris, LLC.

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With me on the Zoom should be Chris Tomasco, who is the managing member of T. Chris, LLC.

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Eric, could you state your name again and spell for us?

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sure eric eric carol c-a-r-r-o-l-l you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and

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nothing but the truth i do you identify your client one more time in the relationship to

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the property yes chris tomasco k-r-i-s-t-o-m-a-s-c-o uh he is the managing member of t chris llc the

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owner applicant our vice chair has a few questions for you good evening have you uh submitted your

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documents five days in advance of this hearing? I have. And do you waive the reading of the

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refusal and stipulate to its accuracy? I do. I thank you. You may proceed with your case. Thank

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you. Okay. This project is 1267 South 28th Street. It's at the corner of 28th and Wharton

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Streets in Grace Ferry. It is not the building in the background. It's this vacant lot that is

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fenced in here. It has been a vacant lot for some time, at least 20 years. I'm not sure when

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it became vacant. My client proposes to build a two-unit multifamily home. We're here

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because of the zone CMX2, which requires a ground floor commercial use, and we are seeking to put

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a residential use in that ground floor. Hey, Eric, just let me check one minute, because our records

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are showing 18th street and you're saying 28th but mr chair no that that was an error it is 28th

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street my apologies thank you very much okay um i'll show you the exhibits that that were sent

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last week uh this these are some photos of the property showing the posting of the notices

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this is a view from 28th street this is 28th street as well this is the view from wharton street

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This is the view from Wharton Street, as is this.

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As is this.

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And here are the notices.

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Again, my client is T. Chris LLC.

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It's the owner.

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They purchased the property in January of this year.

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Tax clearance certificate was also included.

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This is the refusal.

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As I said, this is a CMO2 zoned property, which requires ground floor commercial use.

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We are requesting to put residential instead of commercial.

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The reason for the hardship is purely the building costs wouldn't justify putting in what could fit on the ground floor, whether it was a corner store or laundry or something like that.

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It's a small enough property that's not going to be a big income producing commercial property.

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What we are planning to build, you can see here, it would be a three-story building with a roof deck, two units.

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The basement and first floor would be the first unit, two bedrooms, one-and-a-half baths.

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The second and third floor would be the other unit.

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Those would have three bedrooms and two baths, and then the roof deck.

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I have the application for appeal, project information form.

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There was some confusion about who was the coordinating RCO with this.

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The initial notice I received said it was one of the Grace Ferries, but it turns out it was actually ROAD, the Residents Organized for Advocacy and Direction.

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We sent out the notices. We had a virtual meeting on October 7th with the director, Mika Outlaw.

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Nobody attended. So Ms. Outlaw issued a notice of non-opposition.

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So again, we are requesting a variance to put a two family, two units of residential in this property that is owned CMX2.

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Eric, what's the rest of the property, the block look like? Is it other multiple units?

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It's all single families and multiple units.

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There really isn't that much commercial use, even on the corners in this property.

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If you go up a block and a half, you get to the Fresh Grocery Development off of Grace Prairie Avenue.

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So there's a lot of stores within a very short walking distance.

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Is this the only three-story building on the block?

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This would be on the block of 28th Street.

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There's a couple others. If you go south along 28th Street, south of Wharton, there are a couple, and this is a corner unit, so it's not going to be totally out of character with the neighborhood.

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You want to bring your client on?

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Yes. Mr. Tomasco, are you present?

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Chris, can you raise your hand if you haven't already?

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He's coming in now as a panelist.

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Hello.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Kristen Tomasco, K-R-I-S-T-I-N, last name Tomasco, T-O-M-A-S-C-O.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Tomasco, you are the managing member of T-Chris LLC?

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Yes.

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Were you present on the Zoom when I submitted my testimony and other evidence?

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Yes.

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To the best of your information and belief, was all of that testimony and evidence truthful and accurate?

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Yes.

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Do you adopt that testimony as your own on behalf of TICRS LLC?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Counselor, could you put up your drawings again?

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The plans.

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Yes.

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Questions from the board.

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Yeah. What's your plan for trash storage?

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I believe we have a closet in each unit for trash.

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And there's also a yard in the back of the property.

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Okay.

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And I believe the original building that was knocked down,

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there was three story.

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um i think that two of the other corners of this intersection are three stories and um i believe

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the whole block of 1200 south 28th street is rm1 already so is that basement living you said

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um the unit yes the one unit would have two bedrooms in the basement

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egress wells both in the front and back.

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egress wells both in the front and back

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Is this being built on top of the

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no this is you're tearing down the existing structure.

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It's already a vacant lot. Already a vacant lot. It was

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vacant when my client purchased it.

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And then do you have a section?

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What's the depth of the basement below grade?

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I believe it's five foot below grade, maybe even a little less than that.

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I think it's four feet.

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Reading the plans, I think it's four feet, four inches.

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Other questions from the board?

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