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ZBA Hearing - May 22, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 22, 20244h 46m

The other concern that we have is that it is currently owner-occupied.

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But, you know, life lives and the owner doesn't always have to be on the premises.

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And then what happens is you have three units and nobody knows what would happen or who would be managing that property.

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The other issue is that it seems unlikely to us that this was not known at the point of transfer when it was purchased, that it was single family.

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And whatever needed to be done, it seems to me and to the community should have been done at that time.

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The precipitating factor at this point in terms of coming forth for variants is that there appears to be a change in the tenancy.

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is that there appears to be a change in the tenancy, and based on that, the home had to

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come into compliance in order for them to continue the rental. So again, our position is that this is

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single family. We are not ashamed of the fact that we live in an area that has a predominance

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of single family, but there's group homes, there's apartments, and we understand that,

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but the people who live here, for the most part, live here because they want to be in an area

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that is not quite as densely populated.

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So again, we're going back to the fact

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that the documents seem to indicate

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that it was on record

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and that this application, it seems to us,

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should have been made at another point in time.

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We are not in favor of a blanket approval

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of the zoning variance

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because there's no protection to the community

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for what happens when the owner vacates

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by choice or by chance.

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And so that basically is our position.

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I will certainly make sure that you have this on record, and I offer my sincerest apologies.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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Because I made every effort to get it to you in advance.

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Mr. Anastasia, do you have any questions?

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Just one, Ms. Frida.

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So you do acknowledge that since 1963, it has been physically presented.

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It has been a three-family dwelling.

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Is that right?

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It's been illegally, yes.

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It's been in violation as a three-family.

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I acknowledge that.

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I appreciate that.

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And are you aware that there are more than six existing properties just in the very immediate area, all legally approved as three-family dwellings?

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No, I am not.

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I do not know the status of the immediate.

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Well, we did submit that today.

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And you are aware of the petition of seven homes on that particular block.

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My petition has six names, not seven.

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And we just updated it with one.

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And you were you were presented with that petition of the six immediate neighbors at the RCO.

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Is that correct? Yes, I was. Yes, sir. I thank you very much.

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And I respectfully thank you for testifying. OK, you're welcome.

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Thank you. Thank you for your testimony. Is there anyone else in the virtual audience?

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Yeah, Mr. Chair, I just want to object to the RCO letter itself.

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There are many factual errors in it, the first being that this was ever a single-family dwelling.

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It hasn't been a single-family dwelling in my lifetime, and I don't think even in the chair's lifetime.

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So it's been a long time since it ever was a single-family dwelling.

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Thank you.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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Any more?

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Yes, I have one more.

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Okay, two more hands.

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One is from War Rotherspoon.

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I've allowed them to speak.

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Sure.

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Hi, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Ora, O-R-A, last name is Witherspoon, W-I-T-H-E-R-S-P-O-O-N.

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Hold on, hold on.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Ms. Witherspoon, are you a neighbor?

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Yes.

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Please proceed.

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I am opposed to a three-unit apartment, more so for the mayor, in fact, the dense population and the vehicles that will be parked in that area.

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Second of all, due to the heavy traffic.

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And thirdly, because if this house, this neighbor that owns this house right here, she has not been a part of the the unit, the sections we have.

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I have never seen her. I've been in this area since 2008.

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She doesn't attend any of the meetings. And if she wanted to have a communication with the neighbors, I think she would have made herself more so available to the community. So I'm opposed to it.

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mr anastasia you have any questions sir i i have nothing really to add other than my client

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regularly attends the rco meetings especially the zoning ones uh her occupancy of that property

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predates miss witherspoons coming to the neighborhood uh and as far as traffic and

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congestion again these three units have been occupied for 65 years uh with no incident no

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issue. In fact, at the RCO meeting itself, overwhelming majority, and I know Ms. Frieda

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will testify to that if I ask her to, overwhelming majority of the folks praised my client for the

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improvements to the property. We're not trying to do anything here, but legalize the previous

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thing use. Thank you. Is there anyone else in the virtual audience?

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Yes, Mr. Chair. Kelly McShane Tyree, I have allowed them to speak.

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Hi, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Hi there. My name is Kelly McShane Tyree, K-E-L-L-Y-M-C-S-H-A-I-N, Tyree, T-Y-R-E-E.

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Hi there, my name is Kelly McShane Tyree, K-E-L-L-Y.

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Do you swear, hold on, do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you a neighbor?

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I am a neighbor in East Oak Lane. I am involved with the Civic Association. I own a single family home, which I have restored.

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and i just finished a project on 66th avenue that might have some relevance

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okay please proceed yes thank you um overall and this this is always a sensitivity especially when

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you really really 11 i really really respect this homeowner um and and totally sympathize

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with the fact that a property has been um grandfathered in in a way um i have to speak

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more in generally and just that i just ask that the zoning board continues to protect the highest

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and best use originally intended uh as well as the unique character of this contributing middle

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neighborhood of east oak lane it's it's small and engaging we already have a blessing an over

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blessing of a lot of apartment buildings along 66th avenue many large many mid-sized uh as well

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as originally designed in existing duplexes triplexes and quads so the owner occupant

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rows twins and very rare for the city's single family homes they are delicately balanced this

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equation in this small 10 block by 10 block area so what does impact in one corner really does in

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another i am so extremely concerned about precedence um and and that is really the

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sensitive discussion. So I just finished a three and a half year restoration rebuild of a 1905

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Dutch colonial that faces 66th Avenue. I could not have made that investment. I could not have

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dove into that project were it not for the fact that I could be assured that the zoning across

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the street and next to me and on the other side was protected single family because we have a huge

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tipping point apartment building on our block and so this is the sensitivity we have to maintain

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that delicate balance i trust that the zoning board i do trust while kristen is there that

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she will do a fantastic job with this property because i think it's always beautifully maintained

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I am concerned in general about properties moving forward and being divided up into from single family to triplexes.

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I'm also a professional realtor.

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We're getting knocks on the door all the time for people to do such a thing.

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So it is a very, very important conversation.

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So thank you.

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Well, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Kelly, one quick question.

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but it's apparent that this place has been a triplex for a long time even if it's illegal

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i did not know that okay all right thank you mr chair may i ask you just a couple questions

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sure sure miss tyree what's your legal uh what's your legal address uh my well the one that the

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property that i just was uh just i'm asking for the address upon which you file your federal tax

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returns oh sure what is your legal residence yes in east oak lane 68 13 north 10th street

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north 10th right so the 66th avenue property that you purchased when did you purchase it

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uh the 66 three and a half years ago and they just sold it to a couple who bought it because

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they knew it was single family in the property so you purchased it three and a half years ago

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you renovated it and you flipped it is that right uh yes that's specific the other one i am living

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in i restored and i got a um a homeowner award from the preservation alliance of philadelphia

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i'm still living there a half a mile away right yes and actually more than half you know that

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one of the properties that you mentioned 6709 north 6th street that is a a triplex that my

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grandmother and grandpa julia and tom mcshane um owned for decades so your grandparents actually

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converted to three family right no they did not no that was actually originally um uh structured

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in such a way so they had a three-family dwelling on the same block your own family

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my own family did have one thank you thank you nothing further mr chair anyone else in the

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virtual audience yes mr chair of vivian chestnut i've allowed them to speak

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i could you miss chestnut could you could you identify yourself please

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Vivian Chestnut

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V-I-V-I-A-N-C-H-E-S-T-N-U-T

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth

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The whole truth and nothing but the truth

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Yes I do

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Yes, I do.

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Ms. Chestnut

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Ms. Chestnut, we've had a lot of testimony about this on both sides.

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We've had a lot of testimony about this

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On both sides

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Are you in favor or against this project?

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I'm against the project.

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Okay.

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Is there anything you can offer other than what we've already heard?

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No, it's that I've lived in Philadelphia all my life.

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I've lived in East Oak Lane for the last six years.

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My question is, the reason why this neighborhood still looks and feels the way it is,

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it's because it's 90% single-family home, and it needs to stay that way.

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for people who can't afford to live in the suburbs

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or who choose not to live in the suburbs.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Thank you very much for calling.

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We appreciate it.

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Is there anyone else in the virtual audience?

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I have no cross on Ms. Chestnut

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other than to say that my client doesn't necessarily disagree with her at all.

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We want to keep East Oak Blaine exactly the way it's been for the last 65 years.

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and that means legalizing the existing use.

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No further answer, Mr. Chair.

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All right, thank you.

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Planning Commission.

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Ron Bednar, City Planning.

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The property is indicated for residential use on the city plan

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given the site-documented three-family use history

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with off-street parking available.

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Recommend request of variance for granted.

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Thank you.

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MI 2024

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77606

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66 Avenue. I vote yes.

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I see a thumbs up there, Mr. Chair.

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He's having a hard time.

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He's in the car, I think.

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Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, counsel.

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Let the record reflect that Mr. Shahid voted yes.

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He voted yes. Thank you very much.

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Okay. Number five, MI 2024-000104, 4230 Howell Street, number T2123607, Henry Clinton is the attorney.

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We do not have an RCO letter as of yet with this.

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He's coming back in as a panel, sir.

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Okay, thank you.

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Here we go, Mr. Chairman.

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Mr. Clinton, you've already been sworn.

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Could you just state your name for the record?

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Sure, Henry Clinton, C-L-I-N-T-O-N.

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Can you hear me now, Chair?

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We do, we do.

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Thank you.

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could you identify your client relationship to this property sure there's two clients husband

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and wife Henri A-N-R-I and Arena I-R-E-N-A Abedini A-B-E-D as in Dennis I-N as in Nancy A

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and our vice chair has a few questions for you sir good afternoon counsel do you agree to leave

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the reason of the refusal or stipulate towards accuracy I do have you emailed in all the required

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documents and exhibits that is needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this

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hearing i have thank you council please proceed and share your screen thank you mr sheen

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mr chairman is that visible we see it sir uh good afternoon mr chairman members of the board

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