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ZBA Hearing - May 22, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 22, 20244h 46m

henry clinton here on behalf of mr and mrs abedini for 42 30 house street this is a table of contents

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containing A1 through A10. I also have a rental license for adjoining property, which is a two

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family dwelling. This is the refusal. So this request is for new construction for a two family

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dwelling on a vacant lot, on a large lot, and on a corner lot adjacent to an existing two family

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dwelling. Now the refusal says we're going to erect a two family home with a roof deck. We are not

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going to have a roof deck that has been eliminated from this application.

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There is no RCO letter. Here's photographs. This is the corner property that we're talking about

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right here at the far corner. Again, vacant lot adjacent to a duplex.

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Just an aerial view. It's basically about 24 houses on the block, counting both sides of the

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street, and I'll have the designer testify concerning that. But basically, it's economically

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concerning that. But basically, it's economically not feasible to build a single-family home

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not feasible to build.

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on this corner lot because, as the designer will testify, the prices of the homes on the block,

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again, not being demeaning, the prices on the home on the block, the majority of them are less

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than $175,000. And to build a single-family home, you're going to be in the neighborhood of $350,000.

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So it would be basically economic suicide to build a single-family home, whereas you could build a two-family dwelling for about $75,000 more, and then you'd be able to have two families, no matter whether my client decided to rent or to convert them to condominiums.

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These are the postings of the notices of the RCO meeting, as well as the meeting today.

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So this is a pretty straightforward design.

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it's a two-family dwelling. First floor, one unit, two bedrooms. Second floor would

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be one unit with two bedrooms. Basement would have mechanicals and generally

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storage. We have a large yard area or decent yard area and side yard for trash

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in the rear yard. There'll be trash cans for each of the apartments and you'll be

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able to just take the trash right out to the side street here again just some renderings of what it

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would look like the property just more redundancy just a different shade of the of the renderings

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the remaining documents are the pro forma documents you would see in an application

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such as this. Tax clearance. Zoning map indicating this was a large lot at one time. It's been

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subdivided, and both lots are 25 feet wide, wider than the other lots on the block. So again,

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it could accommodate a two-family dwelling. This is the deed. Legal description. Mr. Chairman,

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what I'd like to do is, if it's okay with you, can I call

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a witness before I conclude my presentation and give a conclusion?

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It's the designer of the property. Why don't you bring a witness on?

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Mr. Luca Lacarini, could you please

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unmute yourself? They've been allowed to speak.

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Harold, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Unmuted. Thank you, everyone. Name is Luca.

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Luka, last name La Curici, that is spelled L-U-K-A for the first name, and L-A-K-U-R-I-Q-I for the last name.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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I do.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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All right. Thank you.

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Luka, did you design this two-family dwelling that I just presented to the board?

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Yes, I did, with my partner, Michael Tark, correct.

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Okay. And why did you design a two-family dwelling at this corner property?

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well well as always client approached me uh the word of mouth had heard of me and approached said

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hey uh i'm a builder i have this big big uh corner lot he said i'm tired of building for

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other people i'm just dying to build something of my own he said can you help me out do an

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analysis see what i could build there what i cannot etc okay and then why did you design

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to family dwelling then well right so exactly after doing uh we we uh did an analysis we did

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a little uh site we looked at the uh adjacent properties and the 24 properties on that block

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um and it made sense for a long-term investment for him i said that this is not something that

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you would want to flip because of the cost cost of the uh properties around is is very low and

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it would not meet the expenses. But I said, you can do something very nice and have a long-term

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investment. And given the footprint of the lot, we're talking about a 25-foot lot, which allows,

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as a corner property, allows you to build 80% of the lot. We have only occupied 60% of that lot,

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So almost half. And we are still able to fit two 1,243 square foot units, two bedrooms, very generous in volume, generous in light, et cetera.

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Yes, the renderings can use some work. Maybe the brick can use a different color, et cetera.

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But it is a very pleasant design and a lot of volume.

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To make a house there would be very big for one, and it would not make any economical sense whatsoever.

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Luca, just a couple of quick questions.

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Luca, just a couple quick questions. Would it cost about $350,000 to construct a single-family home?

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Would it cost about $350,000 to construct a city?

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A little bit more, given the square footage of this house. We're talking 175 to 250 square foot for a new construction. Don't forget, this is not a row home. This is all four sides. So we're looking at higher numbers. So it would be more than that, Henry.

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Okay. And then to build a two-family dwelling, you're probably talking about $75,000 to $100,000 more than a single-family home?

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Yes, because it's an extra kitchen, extra bathrooms, et cetera. So that's correct. We're estimating to around $100,000 more, $75,000 to $100,000.

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And isn't it true there's 24 homes on the block, correct?

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That's correct.

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And 17 of those homes were purchased for less than $175,000, correct?

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Yes, over the years.

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And the remaining properties were purchased between $200,000 and $246,000, correct?

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Yes.

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Okay. And do you live in the neighborhood?

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Yes, I do. I live on the other side of Harbison Avenue on the Taconi side.

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I'm literally a seven-minute walk from this property at 6711 Glenlock Street and probably a three to five-minute drive.

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I have no further questions of this witness.

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Is there anything else you want to add, Luca, that I didn't ask you?

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no uh as as a long term i've lived in the area uh northeast i'm speaking in general we always

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attend each other zoning meetings uh we we all three neighborhood meaning um with the noming

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to coney mayfair etc uh it's an area that's dying for some uh new development and uh we i personally

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certainly welcome it. Responsible development, of course. But we'd like to catch up with the

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rest of the city. That's all. All right. Thank you, Luca. Mr. Chairman, no more witnesses,

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but I would like to just conclude. And in summary, we have a situation, vacant lot,

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large lot, corner lot. It's not economically feasible to build a single family home.

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There's already a duplex adjacent to this property. We're not impacting anyone's

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lighter air. We're not affecting the open space, the height or the rear yard. We're not altering

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the essential character of the neighborhood. We're generally in harmony with the code and we're not

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impacting the development of any adjacent property. And we have no lighter air issues where we're

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affecting any adjacent properties or properties across the street. And with that, I'd like to

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conclude and asked if my client can adopt my testimony yes but mr clinton let me ask you a

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question what happened at the zoning board meeting uh at the community meeting they didn't like it

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to be honest mr chairman we don't have a letter from them as of yet no i i didn't receive a letter

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but i mean i attended the meeting um and just people were generally not in favor of to be

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candidate with the with the tribunal okay all right bring your client on uh harry can you unmute

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yourself mr abedini can you unmute yourself please they've been allowed to speak hi uh my name is

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Henry Abedini.

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Could you please spell your name for the stenographer?

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I am A-N-R-I, and the last name is A-B-E-D-I-N-I.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

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Yes, sir.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Mr. Abedini, were you on the call when I presented your project and when the designer,

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Luca, testified?

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Yes.

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And if you had the opportunity to testify, would you adopt his testimony and my testimony as your own and as true and correct?

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Yes.

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Thank you very much.

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Questions from the board?

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Questions from the board?

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No, Mr. Chair.

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Okay. Questions or comments from our attorney, Hillary Emerson?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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I do not see any hands, Mr. Chair.

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Okay, so Hillary, I'm going to hold this to give the RCO at least a chance to respond.

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I'm going to close everything else other than the RCO letter, or if they don't respond, and Mr. Clinton will have a chance to respond to that.

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Ron, do you want to take a position today or do you want to wait until the RCO letter?

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Yeah, we'll take a position.

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Please proceed.

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Okay, the property is indicated for residential use on the city plan or adopted district plan recommends no change.

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This thing zoning it, residential single family zoning at this location, the applicants.

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existing zoning it residential single family zoning at this location the applicants hardship

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is not supported with evidence of any physical circumstances or condition of the property that

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would prevent it from being used in conforming with the code therefore we recommend request

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variance not be granted um so what we'll do hillary we'll give this a few weeks right

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yeah why don't we why don't we hold it for two weeks um mr chair right and then we'll close it

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other than um the letter from the rco and any response mr clinton yes the two weeks and we'll

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vote at 2 p.m okay mr clinton sounds good mr chairman i really appreciate it thank you thank

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you thank you miss emerson you're most welcome is there i think what's is there anyone in the

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universal audience whose 330 case has not been called.

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I do not see any further hands, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, everyone. We got done fairly well today.

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Thank you, Chair. All right. Thank you all. Thank you. Appreciate it.

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Thanks. Have a good night. Thank you. Have a good night.

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All right. Good night, everybody. Good night.

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Wonderful job as always, Chair. Have a good night, all.

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Good night.

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Thank you.

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