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ZBA Hearing - January 6, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 6, 20215h 31m

to that wound um let's go up to the traffic the the the proposed use of the driveway

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again sort of ma'am ma'am with all due respect you're all over the place there's a driveway

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that exists there was a building there which looks to me i could be wrong may have been a

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factory building or something there's always been a garage there that accommodated that building

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and probably whatever was in front where the vacant lot is whether it was a two-story three-story

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whatever apartment building that driveway has been used by other folks beside the residents on

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the left and i don't mean that to be disrespectful it's a common driveway we established that

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if that driveway is used by the residents it's not a thoroughfare and people search but you

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but okay i'm sorry chair all right we're gonna need we're gonna need to uh wrap this up but i

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just would like to say if the chair is speaking please do not over talk him i appreciate that

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tanya but it doesn't seem like it's sinking in yes all right so if you want to move on you can

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yeah we're going to move on all right can we ask the planning commission maybe yep

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planning commission

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i'm sorry i got ahead of myself any questions from the board uh yes mr chairman yes yes mr

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chairman yes i'd like to see the elevation uh the elevation of the new building that fronts

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the driveway.

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What the, where the vacant lot is?

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Were they vacant lotters?

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Or you know, not what they're proposing, you're saying, right?

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Yeah, what they're proposing, correct.

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I'm sorry, yeah.

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Can I see the elevation of the drive?

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Absolutely.

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okay now let me ask you a question counselor is that parking garage existing or new existing this

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few stories exist yeah yeah you know it's a two-story parking garage existing yes and it

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faces the neighbors across the driveway so there's garage doors here and there's uh the driveway is

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on this side it's the rear of them so any treatment you're doing to that existing garage

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two-story garage now i understand that it's always been there but you're asking for something

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to get a zoning variance for it so what kind of treatment are you going to do with that

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Hey, Tom, can I interrupt you just for a second? I want to make sure I'm following you.

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Yes.

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Correct. Rachel, the garage doors are not going to be facing the back of the residence,

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the rear of the residence on 15th Street. Is that correct?

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Oh, these face Grange Street. Correct.

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Right. So to the left of what you're showing us.

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Right here.

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This is where the driveway is, correct?

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Correct.

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All right.

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So you're not showing me the elevation that faces the driveway.

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the driveway. This is the elevation that I have that faces Grange Street and the driveway

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is this way. Yeah, but I asked for the elevation. I understand that. I'm just providing you

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with what I have, sir. So the garages, Tom, the garages are not facing the rear of the

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15th Street residential. It's just the driveway. It faces the rear of the driveway. The people

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in the rear it faces the residential across the driveway right but the driveway garage doors

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face grain street i understand that i understand any proposed treatment for the garage that faces

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the residential on the across the driveway as far as the bottom of the building is concerned

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correct the two-story garage um can do you see nissan levy um i believe the goal i want to have

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him speak because he's the developer so i don't want to misstate anything i would assume there

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would absolutely be treatment in order to bring the full building back to a more attractive look

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but i would like to have him weigh in on that so that it's okay let's get him on please

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okay um jason do you see um it's either nissan levy or the last four of the phone number would

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be 8433 who are you putting on rachel the owner

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once he once he's uh acknowledged i'll have to swear him in okay

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Can I talk?

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Yeah, your name, sir?

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Nissan Levy, N-I-S-S-A-N, L-E-V-Y.

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Do you swear and affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, sir.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Holloman has a question for you.

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What is the treatment for the elevation that faces the driveway?

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First of all, do you have an elevation?

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We have no elevation.

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It's street level.

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why why you don't have an elevation because it faces a residential community what we're talking

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about facing the residential community is like just a drive it's not a driveway it's just a

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pedestrian entrance there is no driveway for our building it's only entrance the only the other side

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what we see on the for the street where the parking supposed to go in this is going to just

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like gonna fix everything as and also one of the questions of the community if we're gonna do the

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driveway and i actually accept it and we're gonna do this but actually it's not ours so we need to

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ask for permission from everybody it's not ours we only have a small easement over there you need

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only for pedestrians and not for cars sorry i'm gonna jump in for a minute looking at that

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rendering uh the top one we're looking at now correct me if i'm wrong the garage doors are

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to be to the right over here always would you do it with the other that's it right there

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that's going to be the garage doors entrance into the garage correct correct all right so what tom's

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asking about are there's any treatment which it doesn't look like they're going to be able to do

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Are there any treatment, which it doesn't look like you're going to be able to do it, in the driveway?

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in the driveway.

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Is that what I think you're asking, Tom?

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Anything on the building.

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Like, what are we going to do to the buildings that faces the residential?

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Correct.

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The counselor was correct.

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what treatment are you going to do on the parking garage wall to enhance the new you're asking for

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something for the community to grant you a variance what enhancements are you going to do

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on the new building that you're going to the new and the old garage that you're going to

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have facing the easement nissan can you speak to how what the plans are to rehabilitate

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the existing structure as far as the exterior, specifically as it relates to the portions of it

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that are facing, well, all of it, but most specifically the portions of it facing the

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residential. It looks like in the photos, there's, you know, cleaning up of the brick, but if you

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could speak to that, sort of how are we going to be enhancing the aesthetic and the materials so

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that it's more appealing facing the, you know, residential side of the block in addition to just

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given the conditions of it in general you can hear me yep definitely we're gonna actually

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renovate everything including the the garage itself is going to be one it looks going to

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look like one one structure with all a stack outside about cars and such it's not so important

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as far as like if there is something that they prefer or something we can work with

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this is not the issue the issue is like everything going to look new and nice and developed

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we're actually going to touch everything including the garage if this is the question

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and also the paving i have a follow-up question if i could and i'm probably going to hate myself

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for opening up this can of worms but the parking garage uh the wall that we're looking at of the

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garage that faces the rear of the property zone 15th it looks like there's openings correct

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is window openings or window openings yes what are they the height of those in relationship to

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a car's headlights shining into the rear of the houses on 15th street let me let me jump in there

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because at the ground level that's commercial because that was required that's vacant commercial

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because that was required by zoning to have commercial 30 feet into the structure so there

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are no cars at that lower level at that driveway what about the next level up the next level up

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there will there will be cars and if that's an issue then we can propose screening of some sort

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that's that's what i'm getting at because i think that could be intrusive that especially at night

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headlights shining into the rear of the homes on 15th street thank you mr chairman i think we

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should we should have a drawing to define what they're going to do with that space other than

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just verbal that's fine yeah I agree I agree Tom that would be that would be absolutely fine I think

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um to get some more clarity on how much time you think you'll need well actually let me jump in

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also above that is not parking either that's that's units and Rachel if you go to the second

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floor plan I can see the beach I see the umbrellas up there yeah I can see that I'm more more concerned

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about the headlights um and the materials and yeah i'm sorry to just interrupt but anyway

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because of the winter or whatever and as much as we want to keep it as not as closed they're

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going to be open blocks so basically you're barely going to see the the cars yeah i understand that

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but the headlights shining directly into the rear of the properties i don't they're they're actually

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going to be units mr chair three units there at that only faces grain street it won't be

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actually facing okay the resident units from that from that rendition it looks like they're

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openings you know for airflow for the garage yeah no i understand maybe you can submit something

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to us that's a little bit more definitive we can look at it sure all right and some whatever

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whatever you might want to consider to do as far as wall treatments sure when would would work best

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for the board well you tell us because you guys have to go back and figure that out i mean as

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soon as possible as my obviously all right uh mr chairman yes i'm sorry a uh a more comprehensive

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site plan would be helpful too okay all right um where we could resume for next wednesday just to

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go over those two um I don't know I'll have to ask Tanya about that no actually we're so backed up

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no actually we're so backed up

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when works for you tanya you want you guys want to talk about that offline

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yeah that's fine all right why don't you do that tanya is that right you talk offline and figure

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it out sure okay all right um any other questions from the board no no planning commission good

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afternoon mr chairman members of the board david effecto city planning commission mr chairman this

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property is indicated for commercial mixed use in the city's comprehensive plan we gave a

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recommendation against the application on october 6 2020 since then the applicant has made concessions

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and revised their proposal we are going to drop our objection to this proposal however we would

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suggest provision of some kind of open space for the residents of the building even if the open

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space is above grade. I think if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong, Rachel, isn't the open

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space on the top of the garage? Ray, is that? The rendition looks like beach umbrellas up there or

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something. Yeah, well, all of the units on that level do have balconies, and in response to the

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community, that very point, what we did was we reduced some of the sizes of the private balconies

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and created two community balconies

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that could be used by all the residents

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that didn't have balconies.

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And those balconies are pretty much shielded

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from the rear of the 15th Street properties,

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one by a stairwell and the other one is all the way over

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on the other side by the commercial, so.

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Okay, thank you, thank you.

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All right, thank you.

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We'll go to the next case.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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MI 2020?

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I'm sorry, Chair.

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Yep.

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Tanya?

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Because we would have to really give a date, so I want to try January the 20th at 2 p.m.

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Great.

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All right.

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This case is being continued to January the 20th at what time?

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I would suggest we say resume January the 20th at 2 p.m.

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This case will be resumed on January the 20th at 2 p.m.

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is there a way to limit it to just those two issues um or it's i don't see what other issues

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there are i mean we talked about density it's a buy right um i i i don't know anybody has any

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board member have any other opinions please i could just mention there are other people with

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their hands up just to note for the board so i don't know how you want to state it's going to

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be handled on the 20th if it's just for certain feedback clarity on how many how many hands we

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have up tanya three uh well two because um the rco spoke already so it's two left

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so we can have them return with the intent yeah why don't we why don't we do that and we'll limit

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it to those their testimony all right thank you very much yeah we'll never get those who have

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other testimony to add the hearing will be january the 20th at 2 p.m okay thank you all for your

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patience thank you okay mi2020-001237 1801-59 north american street

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Mr. Chair, Jared Klein has his hand raised

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I'm sorry, I'm not able to promote him

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I had to log back in, sorry

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I'm not able to promote him for some reason

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all righty i promoted him and if i could ask it pauline if you could um put jason as a co-host

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i would appreciate that thank you sure tanya you got it good afternoon mr chair members of the board

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hi uh good afternoon please identify yourself with the record certainly uh jared klein k-l-e-i-n

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from blind rome 130 north 18th street philadelphia we're on the firm to tell the truth the whole

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truth and nothing but the truth. Yes I do. Mr. Klein do you agree to wave and snip? I do. And have

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you emailed an exhibit packet with the required documents including proof of ownership, proof of

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tax compliance, copy of the refusal or referral and photos and or plans of the property five days

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in advance of this hearing? Yes we have. And have you met with the RCO? We have. Thank you sir.

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Please proceed. Thank you Mr. Chair. I'm going to share my screen. So we're here for 1801 to

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So we're here for 1801 to 59 North American Street. I understand that the board's agenda

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59 North American Street.

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has probably gone a little longer for the two o'clock than they expected. So I will

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endeavor to be as brief as possible and give the board an overview. We do have the architect

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Rustin Oller from Harmon Deutsch and Oller on if the board has any specific questions

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as I move through. This is the project site, 1801 North American Street. It is an ICMX

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zoned property. And we're building on a portion of the site. You can see here the aerial view.

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This is where the proposed work area is. The site, part of it presently contains a warehouse

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and two-story structure that is used for ICMX general purposes. There's makerspaces in there

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and the owner and developer. The parcel has his office there. We are proposing to work on this

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area that's outlined in white to construct a new structure that's five stories tall

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that will have 110 residential dwelling units and 60 parking spaces and will also have ground floor

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commercial space. This is some site context. As you can see, the site is currently a vacant area

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