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ZBA Hearing - March 17, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 17, 20215h 37m

before the covet hitting everybody like february 20 2020. also after covet all construction costs

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are went up 30 percent now also we don't know the situation of the like real estate market

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it could be crash any moment we are expecting actually so i would like to share this information

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with you all too so as you mentioned we are not going asking for the advantage of the lot size or

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anything we would like to just build two units in that lot yeah and you're going to build two

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condominiums right yes so that means you're going to sell to a homeowner each exactly yes

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counselor yes how do you handle the trash for the second and third unit uh yeah so they're

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to put a trash room in each of the units, a ventilated trash room, and they would agree to

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a ventilated trash room and they would agree to in terms of a proviso in that respect

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in terms of a proviso in that respect.

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the trash rooms on the drawings yeah i'm going to the drawings well i don't know if

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it's on the drawings but let me see hold on a second

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oops let me uh but we can agree to that in the form of a proviso no they're the drawings are

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very simplistic um but we did present to the community that is very important to make sure

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it that the trash is manageable. So we would agree to in the form of proviso. This is also

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going to be part of a condominium. So it's, again, two separate sets of unit owners, and we wanted to

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have responsible form of ownership. I'm sorry, can I just do a quick audio check for the chair,

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please? Can you hear me now? Yes, chair. Thank you so kindly. Thank you. Yeah, I had to leave and

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come back I've been having problems thank you uh Mr. Notkinson um a couple of questions uh

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in the previous years when the board has approved uh you gave a list of the streets are they

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apartments or are they condos um I believe every time we we have presented uh they have been condos

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so these are the ones I've presented I didn't present all these okay all the ones on North

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valley street 1616 and dash 18 north valley street again i don't know if again i lose contact

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with my clients after sometimes when after the zoning so i'm not 100 positive that those have

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been built yet but that's we asked for it to be condos uh 1611 north 27th street a two unit under

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similar circumstances condos and 1633 actually 1620-22 north valley street would be condos and

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same thing with 1633-35 North Valley Street. All the North Valley Street are in the same 100 block

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as our North 26th Street and it's right behind us. So you'll see from the map. Okay and could

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you go to the RCO page where the list the vote was? Yep. Could you make it a little bit larger?

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Sure. I'm just going to focus on the numbers so it helps you out. Yeah. So do you see him Mr. Chair?

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Yeah, I got it now. Okay.

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So there are seven people in support, two people in non-opposition, and 13 people who are not in favor.

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Under similar circumstances, this community group has supported it.

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So sometimes you get the luck of the draw of who's there at that time.

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Understood. And one more. Could you go back to the floor plan?

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I was not able to hear what was going on.

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Yes.

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Oh, let me just make this a little smaller so I can kind of venture through it.

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Can you see it, Mr. Chair?

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So you said this is a duplex?

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It is a duplex.

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So the second and third floor is one unit?

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That's correct.

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So they're both bi-level units.

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Right.

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Okay.

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First floor and basement.

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So Tom may have asked this.

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Again, I was having problems, audio problems.

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What's the means of ingress and egress for the basement?

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Well, we have an alley in the rear.

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That's a common alley.

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So it's front and back.

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So front for the first floor unit or the bi-level unit.

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And in the rear, there is an alley, which is called the court.

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the basement section of the first of the first unit oh there's a there's a an egress well right

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here which which has an a ladder as well is there a bedroom in the basement yeah there would be a

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bedroom in the basement for this unit um that's the way we're configuring it thank you you're

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Welcome. All right. Any questions from the board? No. No. No. Anyone else like to testify

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in this case, please raise your hand. Chair, we have Assanya. Please unmute yourself and

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wait for the chair. Good afternoon, ma'am. Please identify yourself with a record, first

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and last name.

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Sonia or Sonia, if you wish to testify, please unmute yourself.

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If not, we will move on.

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chair we have mary jones ms jones you've been please unmute yourself and wait for the chair

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Good afternoon, Ms. Jones. Please identify yourself and I'll swear you in.

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good afternoon ms jones please identify yourself and i'll swear you in

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Good afternoon, Mary Jones, Council President Daryl Clark's office, City Hall, room 494.

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We're in the firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

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I do.

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Thank you, ma'am. Please proceed.

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Yes.

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Today we'd like to stand with the community's opposition on this particular project.

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The applicant has not demonstrated a hardship, and the RCO, they recognize that, you know,

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there's been other multifamily housing in the area, but they are just concerned about adding

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yet more density and yet another multifamily, and when it was owned, single family.

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So we are asking for a denial.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else to testify? Please raise your hand.

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I see no more hands, Chair.

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Thank you. Planning Commission?

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Good afternoon. David Fecto, City Planning Commission, Mr. Chairman, members of the board.

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This property is indicated for residential single-family use in the City's comprehensive plan.

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There appears to be one other multifamily dwelling on this block,

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and we are aware of two single-family homes that were built on this block in 2019.

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There is no unique circumstance that would prevent this property from being used as a single-family home.

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We recommend the board deny the requested variance.

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Thank you.

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To the Planning Commission, do you happen to know what position the Board took, the Planning Commission took,

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on the other variance requests that were laid out by Mr. Notkinson?

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If you don't, that's fine. I just was curious if you know.

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I wish I could get that for you.

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If it's back to 2018, we'd have to do a search through our database.

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I just thought maybe you had something different.

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All right.

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And Mr. Chair, Mr. Adelon was trying to get at it.

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The uniqueness of this situation is that since COVID, construction costs have gone up over 30% in the city of Philadelphia.

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So originally, they were considering having this as a single family.

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but due to the construction costs they can't they can't build this they can't afford to do

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this on a single family that's why they're looking to put it as a two-unit condominium

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understood just give me a second i just lost connection again um excuse me apologize

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uh i'd like to recommend to the board that the record be closed and we can discuss

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this at our next Wednesday's executive session. Thank you. Sounds good. Sounds good, Frank.

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Okay. Calendar number 0116-2301 South Broad Street. The attorney is Ron Patterson.

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ron patterson has been promoted to panelists

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hi mr patterson can you put your name and address on the record please and spell your last name

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good afternoon ronald patterson p-a-t-t-e-r-s-o-n

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play harrison law firm 1835 market street philadelphia pa 19103 thank you do you swear

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a firm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes, I do. Do you also agree to waive

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the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy? I do. And finally, have you emailed the

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exhibit packet with proof of ownership, tax compliance, refusal, referral, photos, plans,

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five days in advance of this hearing, and have you met with the RCO, and do you have a letter?

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Yes, to all of the above. Thank you. You may proceed. Thank you. Are you seeing my screen?

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I sure am.

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Okay.

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So as you see, this regards Methodist Hospital.

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Methodist Hospital, as we know, is part of the Thomas Jefferson University Hospitals.

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And I represent Thomas Jefferson University in this matter.

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So as you may know, over years, Thomas Jefferson has been undertaking a rebranding of all of its properties.

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And it primarily has occurred in the Center City area.

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to, you know, appear as more of a campus approach.

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And so, you know, I've probably been to the board on some of them.

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But as I stated, Methodist is part of Jefferson.

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So Jefferson is now focused on rebranding and re-signing Methodist Hospital.

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Methodist Hospital. This is a view at Broad and Wolfe, as we know, Broad Street, Broad Street,

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This is a view that brought...

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and so on, Rittner, and so on. So as we'll see, this application is for all the signs. There are

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many, many signs. We're replacing seven signs and installing 31 new signs. Of those signs,

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only three require variance relief and we'll get to that in a minute

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I'll share and go another document here

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Okay. So this is our sign package. We'll skip through this. But as we see through here,

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this is, you see we're changing fonts and colors in the position of Thomas Jefferson

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to match what you would see uptown. This is the first sign, sign 105, that's subject to

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variants you'll see here in the upper right this is the existing sign it has an address here 1300

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wolf building we're proposing jefferson with this icon it you know the signs and the refusal as

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you'll see we're in the cmx commercial zoning district allows an array of signs this property

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fronts on broad street wolf street britner street and 13th street uh and so with all that street

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frontage, again, you're allowed a lot of signs. This sign meets the allowable criteria for dimension

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and sign area, but because it's above the second floor windowsill, as you know, all signs above the

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second floor windowsill predominantly require variance relief. But in reality, we're just

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replacing the sign that's been here with no negative impacts and proposing this sign. So

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next sign is sign number 131 so page 38 this is the existing sign and this is the proposed sign

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illuminated at this point same size same location and our third sign is

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This sign here, which this is the Broad Street View facing north, we're proposing to change

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this sign to replace it with this sign.

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So to the regular eye, you would never know that the signs are being changed.

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But again, they're being changed to match what's proposed for the signed branding on the hospital at this point.

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We did meet with the South Broad Street Neighborhood Association on February 16th, and there's a letter of support attached to my application.

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We've also asked that the amended plan submit it for one of the pages.

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It may not be relevant or have any impact.

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I'm going to show you in a minute which one it is, if I can get back to it.

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This is our plan form that we submitted. Let's see here. Here we go. Can you see that? Or no? No.

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As you may know, this property, there's an emergency entrance off of Wolf Street, right

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off abroad on Wolf Street.

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And you know, it was built many years ago.

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This canopy here is at a height where it no longer allows or enables the current ambulances

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to drive under.

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So we're parking behind us over here and probably on the street as well as you pass it.

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So the canopy is going to be raised.

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We have the sign proposed on the current canopy.

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This is the proposed canopy, which is being raised.

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No change to the sign dimension.

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It's just going from 9 1⁄2 feet to 14 feet height, still below the bottom of the second floor windowsill.

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But I thought I'd know that it's a biorite sign, not really part of this variance, but part of this package.

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really part of this variance, but part of this package.

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So with that said, Mike Anderson and Jim Wiesenhutter,

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beginning with the letter W are here.

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And if we could have them admitted briefly.

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Hey, Ron, do I need to recuse myself

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since I've been born in that hospital?

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I don't wanna think I'm getting preferential treatment here.

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i don't know we should really take we should take this under advisement i think

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i'm gonna miss that word methodist geez

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are your clients here from lake or jam are you there

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i have unmuted mike okay you have to unmute yourself mike so you can speak

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good afternoon sir identify yourself first and last name and i'll swear you in

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okay Mr. Patterson I've unmuted Mike and he's not speaking none of your clients have raised

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their hands why don't we do this Mike's mic is not working so as an officer of the court we'll

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stipulate your clients would have adopted your testimony yes they would have just they would

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and I would have asked them to briefly explain what I had just explained about the rebranding

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of the hospital but uh i'll just did i hear you say is there a revision

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uh there was a revision that i submitted it's a it's a revised uh page um 29

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uh dated march 17 2001 just one page of the third of the 52 pages that i submitted

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all right ron where's that is that a sign jefferson methodist hospital or is that that's

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going away? That is going away. Jefferson Health, it says. Okay. All right. Any questions from the

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board? There's one here. Jefferson. No question. Okay. Anyone else like to testify in this case,

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please raise your hand. I see no handshake. Thank you. Planning Commission. Good afternoon.

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David Fecto, City Planning Commission, Mr. Chairman, members of the Board.

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The Comprehensive Plan recommends this property for commercial mixed use.

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We do not believe that the addition of these signs to a hospital will negatively impact the block.

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We believe these signs represent minimal variances.

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We recommend the Board approve the requested variances.

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Thank you.

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MI 2021-000116, 2301 South Broad Street, my vote is yes.

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my vote is yes my vote is yes excuse me chair this is sharon one i'm sorry proviso one page

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revised one page uh approved today my vote is yes with proviso yes with proviso yes thank you so

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much thank you so much thank you i think we go to number five carol number four was continued

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correct? Yes, that is correct. Calendar number 0067, 2538 North 5th Street. The attorney is Rachel Pritzker.

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Ms. Pritzker has been promoted to panelist.

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