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ZBA Hearing - December 2, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Dec 2, 20206h 53m

that's West Oak Lane. And that auto zone has no fencing around it whatsoever. Is that correct?

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I'm not aware of fencing at that auto zone. I'm not aware of the fence situation at that auto

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zone. I've looked at images, but I don't recall off the top of my head whether there was fencing

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there or not. So you're not that familiar with the site? I'm familiar with the location,

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but I have not been there recently. Okay. Thank you. Anything else, Dawn? No, thank you. Okay.

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anyone else wish to testify in this case please raise your hand and we're going to ask you again

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not to repeat anything that has already been testified to we have numerous cases still to be

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heard we have a smiling smilery or something you can unmute yourself and wait to be sworn in

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please identify yourself with the record spell your first and last name and provide us with

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your address mr chair i would object to this testimony as this person is not on the appearance

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list from the october 6th hearing and i was on an appearance briefly ma'am please spell your name

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first and last name yes good evening my name is smiley farabee s-m-i-l-e-y last name is f as in

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frank ere b as in boy ee and your address is 1220 shelton avenue 19126 swearing a firm to tell the

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truth the whole truth nothing but the truth absolutely sir proceed um so i am president

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of oka and um the meetings that dawn is referring to again was in regards to the community benefit

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agreement that was offered after an initial vote of opposition. At that meeting, Joanne and I guess

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about 25 neighbors were there, and we wanted to present the applicant in a fair light and their

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proposal of the community benefits agreement. We did so, and there was adamant, adamant opposition

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in that regard to accepting the community benefit agreement and to the auto zone being placed in our

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community. Also, I don't believe a split, I'm not understanding a vote that was taken that

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is called a split. You initially got the vote. It was not a split. If one person chases their mind,

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that's their prerogative, but the community still stood strong and starts in their decision of this

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being opposed to. I was only commenting on the numbers that I was being told. I know it's

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misrepresented. It's not the full picture of what that was no vote taken. That was a petition that

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had names on it. We took a vote at the initial RCO meeting. And I'm wondering why that doesn't

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stand. Well, we're not saying it doesn't stand. We just don't know who they are. I mean,

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that there was a petition you said no there was a vote taken there was a vote taken at the meeting

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we don't know who those folks are were they nearby neighbors were they yes we

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I don't know oh well we know we have a record of it I'm just talking about the last meeting where

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oh well we know we have a record of it i'm just talking about the last meeting

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where a position where a petition was presented um that's different from a vote would you say

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well it's not not necessarily okay i'm sure we have like six people with their hands yeah i know

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i'm okay we can go to the next person thank you ma'am now i'm going to say this one more

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time we hope dawn before you go whoever the next witnesses are please do not repeat what has

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already been said several times not only tonight but in the prior hearing i don't mean to be

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disrespectful but we don't we need to hear something new and different just mr chair

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regarding the concerns that were raised by the neighbors they were raised at a public meeting

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with me with my client and that was on September 30th and since that time my client has addressed

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all the concerns raised and those concerns are even addressed in writing in the CBA.

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Anyone else?

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So Chair, someone from the number ending in 8685 had their hand raised, I have allowed

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them to speak.

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Caller at 8685, you must unmute your microphone if you wish to speak.

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Let's move to the next person.

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anyone else

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mr paul brown he's had his hand up i'm allowed to speak mr brown good evening

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please identify yourself with a record name and address i would object to this testimony

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as someone that's not on the appearance list for october 6th no i'm at this point i'm going to have

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to agree with you only those people whose name i've lived here for 50 years and i don't

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he's muted you can continue

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anyone else excuse me mr mr chair this is hillary can can i ask um because i'm not sure what list

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Dawn is referring to, what neighbors are on that list that she's saying that were present

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at the October 6th hearing?

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I can share my screen.

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I can share the document.

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It's a document provided by the zoning board.

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And as far as neighbors, other than the parties involved in this case, the only neighbors

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that were listed were Joanne Eggleston, Freda Williams, Barbara Coffey, Hillary, your name's

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on there. That was

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it. Those are the only people that showed

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up.

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There's only two neighbors in.

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Barbara Coffey is on the line.

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She just called me. She would like to speak.

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Okay, Ms. Coffey?

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I don't know where

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Ms. Coffey is.

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Does she have her hand up?

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Is she on a phone?

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She's on a phone.

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Okay.

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What is her name?

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Is it a 9980?

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I don't.

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The number I have is 6708, but she could be calling on a cell.

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That's her landline that I have.

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going way longer yeah we can't all due respect to already we just we just have to keep moving on

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uh all right at this point on do you have any closing remarks or any comments you'd like to

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make at this time i do and and i understand the board wants me to keep this short so i will just

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by the way i just saw everybody understand it's not that we don't take this serious but

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But, I mean, we do have, you know, other cases, and it's already past 6 o'clock.

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We don't want to get out of here at 10 o'clock tonight.

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So, Mr. Chair, my clients have worked hard with the community to try to reach an agreement, and we thought we were almost there.

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In any event, if this project is approved, my client does agree to maintain the CBA agreement,

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including the commitment to make donations to the community, which are earmarked

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for such concerns as cleaning and security. As far as the legal arguments supporting a

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variance in this case, first, if we take a look at the history of the property here,

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First, if we take a look at the history of the property here, it has never been used

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It has never been used

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for a permitted use.

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The history of auto-related uses on the property, specifically those permitted by variants,

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justify the unnecessary hardship.

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As evidenced by the archives, the property has been used for auto-related uses, including

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a gas station, since the zoning code was enacted in 1933.

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So that's over 85 years.

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The property has been used as an auto sales lot since 1948.

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In fact, the zoning board previously found a hardship existed for this same exact use in 2005

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for an advanced auto parts. The circumstances have not changed and the hardship still exists.

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Besides looking at the history of the property, if we look at the current use of this property,

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the current use permits the sale of cars. The use falls within a vehicle and vehicular equipment

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sales and service use category. The proposed use falls within the same category. It's a different

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subcategory, but in essence, rather than selling an entire car, car parts are being sold. Third,

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if we look at the surrounding area, the proposed use for an auto-related retail business,

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it keeps with the character of this neighborhood and the surrounding uses. There's auto sales

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lots, gas stations, auto repairs, and painting shops along Broad Street within five blocks on

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either side of this property. And all of this is shown within the packets that we've submitted.

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So because the property is surrounded by auto-related uses, it's virtually impossible

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to use it for any other use. And finally, I would just say that strict compliance with the Zoning

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Code is infeasible. While there are many permitted uses in the CMX 2.5 zoning district, due to the

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particular nature of this lot, considering the location, the features, the size, development

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of this property in strict conformance with the zoning code is impracticable. We're seeking

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minimum relief necessary to develop this property under the zoning code.

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And the physical constraints here that you've seen on the plans and you've heard testimony

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about from the engineer include the lot size. It's 120 feet by 160 feet. It has two street

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frontages. It has an access easement along the north side of the property. It has an existing

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retaining law on Madari that we have to deal with. And so for all these reasons, along with the memo

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of law that we've submitted as part of our packet, we would ask the board to grant the variance

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requests. Thank you. Were there any provisos? I don't recall. I don't recall. That's why I'm asking.

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Well, I mean, as far as provisos, we've put in writing agreements that we agreed upon

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with the community that's part of the they're part of the community benefits agreement okay yes

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all right all right the community benefits agreement uh was withdrawn the rco wrote in

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an email that they withdrew from the community benefits agreement so there's nothing in writing

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right now that's in effect understood and and mr chair my point is that my client is willing to

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keep up his end of the

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proposal and

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follow through on all

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the promises that they've made.

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Are you saying

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if the board approves you

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would, that benefit agreement would

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be in effect? Yes.

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All right.

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Any questions

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from the board? No.

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No.

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Planning

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Commission.

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This is Ron Bednar with City Planning.

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Property is indicated for commercial use on the city plan.

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Given the property's history and its current use, we have no objection to the granting

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appearance.

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Thank you.

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I'm going to suggest that the record be closed.

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The Board will render a decision next Wednesday, December the 9th at 9.30 a.m.

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in our executive session okay yes thank you thank you everyone thank you

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columbia avenue yeah calendar number 1855 1029 east columbia avenue

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good evening uh rachel you're still under oath okay rachel pritzker

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Do you want me to say and spell my name?

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do you want me to say

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Yeah, please.

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R-A-C-H-A-E-L

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R-A-C-H-A-E-L, Pritzker, P-R-I-T-Z-K-E-R, 1635 Market Street, Suite 1600, Philadelphia, PA, 19103.

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Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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Have you emailed an exhibit packet with the required documents consisting of proof of ownership, tax compliance, refusal or referral, photos and plans?

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and have you done that five days prior to this hearing also have you met with the rco and do

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you have a letter yes excuse me this is sharon saleta this is a resumption hearing so we oh so

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strike all of that okay okay hi rachel hi proceed thank you so i'm gonna make this brief um so the

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board has had already seen this i think on november 18th this was the property located

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on Columbia Avenue. And we originally proposed a subdivision of the existing large lot that had a

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vacant corner parcel. And we originally had proposed two units and two parking spaces in the

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back utilizing the existing curb cut. At the recommendation of the board, we took a look back

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at the plans as it was indicated to us that a single family home with the parking would

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be more likely to get support from the board. In addition, we took the chairman's comments

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to reduce the size of the building to allow for more green space in the rear as that was

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part of the concerns of the community as far as the parking was concerned. So we have submitted

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revised plans that show a single-family home instead of the duplex with a smaller footprint

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so that it can provide green space in the back and still maintain the two off-street accessory

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parking spaces that we had provided support from the near neighbors, even though the Fishtown

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Neighbors Association board was not supportive of the parking. So I think at this point,

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we're just asking that this variance be approved as a single family home with the two accessory

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off-street parking spaces with the approved plans two pages that were submitted to Sharon

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on the 24th I also have the architect the client here if the board is interested in hearing from

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either of them you're on mute chairman questions from the board thank you no

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okay carol i don't have the the information in front of the address and the

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calendar number so would you read that off please sure calendar number

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1855 1029 east columbia avenue my vote is yes my vote is yes with revised plan two pages

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two pages approved today with proviso yes with proviso yes with proviso

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calendar number one two eight nine twenty nine oh one grant avenue thank you sure thank you

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Mr. Chair, we have Mr. Adam Laver speaking.

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Good evening, Mr. Laver.

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Good evening, Mr. Laver.

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Please identify yourself with a record, spell your name, and I'll swear you in.

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Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the board.

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Adam Laver of Blank Rome, 1 Logan Square, Philadelphia PA, 19103.

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we're in a firm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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yes mr chairman i do thank you carol mr labor do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal

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and stipulate to its accuracy yes mrs tenary i do have you emailed an exhibit packet with

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the required documents consisting of proof of ownership proof of tax compliance copy of the

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refusal or referral photos and plans and have you done this five days prior to this hearing

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Have you also met with the RCO, and do you have a letter?

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Mrs. Tanari, I did submit all of the required documentation.

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I'm disappointed to share with you that for the first time in my career, I was not given the opportunity to meet with the RCO in this case, despite efforts that I can get into if the board wishes.

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In two words, what happened?

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uh i reached out i didn't receive a response i followed up with councilman o'neill's office

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and uh the councilman's office was very professional of course as always

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but uh did express opposition unfortunately and uh in some i was basically told

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And in sum, I was basically told that there would not be a meeting, I'm sorry to say.

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Well, you did your due diligence.

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We'll go forward with the case.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

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