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ZBA Hearing - March 4, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 4, 20268h 6m

and proceed with your case all righty thank you again um today i am joined by the members of the

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llc rasheen williams james holloway bruce williams kyrie cox and i'm also joined by chelsea cox from

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C2 Consulting who presented to the RCO and will speak more about the property

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after I share the submitted exhibits.

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and can you see my screen we can okay great um so first we have the notice of referral whereas

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the proposed use for takeout restaurant requires special exceptions approval from the board in the

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CMX 2 commercial zoning districts. Excuse me. Okay. Next, we have the letter of support from

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the RCO showing that we met with the RCO in accordance with section 14.30312. I'm sorry,

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my screen is a little out of the way. Okay. Let me show it this way. All right.

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And we discussed our, the RCO discussed their concerns with us and they respectfully requested

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the Zoning Board grant the applicant's appeal. This is the mailing list for all of the neighbors

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in the area who were notified of the hearing by mail. This is the settlement statement.

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the board's indulgence one

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and this is the mortgage

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this is the mortgage so the mortgage was dated

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march 17 2021 showing that phase 4 llc is the equitable owner of this property

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so i think where we where we need to be now she should show us drawings of the property

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and or photos too okay okay all righty so and that's the you're posting yes this is the the

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public posting of the property then we have excuse me the outside of the

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property with also public posting on outside of that the inside of the

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property and I will now pass it over to Chelsea Cox to speak more about what she

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discussed with the RCO and to present more about the property are you calling

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her as a witness yes i'm sorry i will now call chelsea cox to raise her virtual hand

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so she can be unmuted to share okay could you please state your name and spell for the

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stenographer and please unmute thank you sure uh my name is good morning my name is chelsea cox

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it's spelled c-h-e-l-s-e-a uh last name is spelled cox is c-o-x do you swear or firm to tell the

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truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes it's your witness okay also is it okay if i share

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my screen to show a presentation really quick prior to answering any questions i think this may

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tell me what you're you're going to show like yeah sure sure sure so i during the rco meeting

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uh the team and i put together a presentation to just highlight the project the purpose of

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project some background information and just some ideas of how we're going to proceed forward with

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the project so um we so because the the property is owned by an llc they have to be represented by

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an attorney but for the board the attorney the attorney can call witnesses but you can't present

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as if you're representing the llc so i mean your your council can ask you questions and you can

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show you can show us a presentation but your council kind of needs to ask some questions to

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bring the information into the record and that is fine i will present and then i will ask her

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questions at the end of the presentation all right can you see my screen again yes all righty

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okay i'm sorry my screen is a little bit out of weight tonight all righty so again um our goal

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is to transition the commercial space located at 8129 31 stenton avenue to a fully functioning

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takeout restaurant it was formerly a barbershop um the new concept will take out restaurant oh

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excuse me it will be a takeout restaurant only with the menu focused on various cheese steaks

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all ages welcome with no alcohol to be served the goal here is to create jobs focus on menu

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offerings and contribute to corridor revitalization the current zoning is cmx2 the proposed proposed

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use is cmx2 changing the use of the business to this um retail excuse me to take out only

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there will be no structure structural additions added only interior fit out and signage updates

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Prior zoning hearing included in addition of a takeout window.

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Prior zoning hearing included an addition of a takeout window. The hours of operation are from Sunday 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. and Monday to Saturday 11 p.m. 11 a.m. to 10 p.m.

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We anticipate on average to have 50 patrons per day and it's a patient of that is four months of estimated time it will take to complete the project and open the restaurant.

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So here we also have the eateries that are also like right next to this property on Stan Avenue. So here our property will be welcome to all ages, open all year round, have operations that will be at a proper time ending at 9 and 10 p.m. and revitalization strategies to implement and to incorporate the community in these strategies moving forward for us to

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continue with our goal of having that clean corridor.

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All right, so the takeout model,

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as we said, we'll have a takeout window

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that takeout model minimizes on-site wait times

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and it will already be existing on-street parking

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that will adequately serve the customer needs.

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There also has been a proposal to get a loading zone

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placed at the corner of the streets

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at the front of the restaurant,

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which will minimize the congestion of the parking that was a concern for the RCO.

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So the community benefits. Benefits will be job creation, commercial revitalization, different food options, as that is a food desert.

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So we do understand that, and it is important for us to create more food options for the residents and families in that community.

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youth employment, as well as local vending, and definitely a community focus around pride and local economic growth.

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So for safety and operations, we'll be in full compliance with fire and health codes.

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We plan to have proper ventilation and grease management systems installed.

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the staff will be trained in safety cleanliness and emergency procedures

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and it will be regular exterior cleaning and waste management to keep the area tidy

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so for design and signage there will be exterior improvement so new signage

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fresh paint improved lighting see the before and after right now it's a little shabby right

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but we have plans to revitalize that um so and also if the lines are signed request here do we

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so so you're going to have to do that at a later date you're you're not requesting that right now

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okay that's all right yes all right so back again to the whole point of it all the community

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commitment so we're dedicated to being a good neighbor we'll coordinate with nearby businesses

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on cleaning this and safety and we'll participate in local events and initiatives to give it back

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to the community um so um chelsea cox you can now be unmuted again please

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all right do you agree with what i presented today yeah when you're being okay great um and

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then do you adopt it when she spoke to the rco about the same exact way yes you would okay and

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do you have anything to add to this um no other than the fact that um we did present from the rco

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we had several questions uh we were able to address some of the questions um we essentially

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presented the same information and uh right now we are taking into consideration all other questions

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and any other neighborhood concerns if we have if there if any are presented okay um and i would

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like to now um ask the applicant rashin williams to raise his virtual hand and be unmuted sure mr

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williams

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rasheem williams will be promoted to panelists

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and mr williams are you on the call yet are you unmuted mr williams

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yes he had been promoted to penis i'm here now i can hear i mean i can speak mr williams could

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you please state your name and spell for the stenographer yes rasheen williams r-a-s-h-e-e-n

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is in nancy last name williams w-i-l-l-i-a-m-s do you swear or affirm to tell the truth told

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do you swear or affirm to tell the truth told you nothing but the truth

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truth nothing but the truth? Yes, I do.

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yes i do could you turn on your video please i'm sorry

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yep please proceed counsel good morning do you agree with all we were presented today do you

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agree with everything that was said yes i do and do you adopt it as your own yes

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Do you like to add anything today?

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No, just like to hopefully bring a new business to the corridor up there.

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We've been trying to get this done for about three years of applying, withdrawing, applying, withdrawing RCOs.

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And I finally feel like we're at a good point now.

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So I appreciate you representing us in Chelsea.

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And yes, I definitely agree with everything that was presented.

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All right.

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Okay, wonderful.

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Nothing further from me.

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questions from the board yes um is there a floor plan

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yes you have that right breath uh i did not receive that but um

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yes we do we can provide one for you we can definitely provide one for you

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okay it's a little hard to to know how you're going to set things up without the floor plan

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We have it. I can actually share my screen if that's not a problem.

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I have to move some stuff so I can get to where I need to get to.

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I'm sorry one second is loading up rushing if you need me to share I can share it too

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I have it pulled up oh yes if you can share it that'll be great sure please excuse my

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screen it's very ugly right now but now if you can see my screen where's it just

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can you see my screen it's just it's just blank i cannot see it yet no all right again

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okay who can do this so yeah well okay okay so while you're while you're getting that up

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My questions are about two things. In terms of the cooking and what have you, are you going to have venting through the roof for this takeout restaurant?

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I would refer to the client for this answer. Yes.

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Yes, we will.

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all right and then um is the is this going to be on the first floor and is there like a residence

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on the second floor or how is no it's just office space above it it's just the first floor so

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the way the building is set up on the corner is the bar it's a bar area and right next to that

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it was zoned separately as a barbershop in the past so our request was to get it zoned and make

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an actual food restaurant instead of a barbershop so it's living there at all okay all right um and

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then about this takeout window where is that and how was that approved and uh uh does that mean then

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that the uh people will be out waiting for their food um outside of the establishment

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actually it will if i can um explain it it will be a window but it won't they'll be able to walk

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into the restaurant in order it'll just be a window at the front of the building you know

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pretty much you can look out and in and stuff like that okay so all right but you're calling

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it a takeout window so what does that that's not actually accurate yeah it's just a it's a takeout

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restaurant originally when we put the plans in we were going to put a window in and i spoke to um

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i was dealing with somebody at ellenott with the floor plan and everything and he was like i would

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remove the window and just have it a regular come in and take out restaurant so we we updated our

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plans when i withdrew it the first time back in 2024 i withdrew it and we read the plans and

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I withdrew it and re-readed the plans and submitted them properly without a takeout window.

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submitted them properly

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So that was just, you know, the wrong language for what it actually is.

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Okay.

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So what I heard about takeout window, that's not going to be wrong.

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That's not.

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It's not actually a takeout window.

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You have to go in the order and then you take your food out.

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All right.

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And then you're not going to have any seating in this?

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Yes, it's going to be two tables.

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I'm going to try to find it on this diagram.

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should be two tables four seats okay i'm trying to see it

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what's that first floor proposed floor plan

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it's back there yeah i can't really see it clearly out here

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yeah bathroom the seating okay and as we're going what's in the basement the basement will be the

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prep area so our plans is to um redo the basement and have it for storage and um you know supplies

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and stuff like that okay and

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you're just showing the existing plan can you switch to the proposed plan yeah okay

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this is this is a really a really small space yeah it's not that it's it's like a it's almost

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like one big room one room yeah so it's it's a very small space okay yes yes this is um proposed

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because we haven't done any work we had you know wait till we you know got through the zoning and

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things like that before we did it so all right and then um because i guess when you were talking

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about takeout window i was going to ask about trash and disposal um how are you gonna yes we

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have um dumpsters even without that yeah the question is trash too yeah we have um a dumpster

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out back so we'll have trash cans um inside and out um just you know when people you know come up

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and they may want to walk or stand outside and eat their cheese steak you know however they decide to

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to do it but we have um a waste hauler form already um ready to go and we have dumpsters

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in the rear of the building okay and what about trash in the front where people might

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take their food and uh dispose of trash there yeah we'll yeah yes we'll put cans out daily

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and those cans will be monitored and emptied throughout the the business hours and um even

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like over you know they won't be outside overnight they'll come in and out the uh the property and

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that's the other question i didn't ask i'm sorry uh hours of operation yeah i think we had 11 to

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nine on sunday correct me if i'm mistaken uh bria i know it was on the um presentation and um you

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okay and we are also you know open to you know changing the hours if anybody had any you know

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issues or any conflicts with the hours of operation yeah so on sunday 11 a.m to 9 p.m

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and monday through saturday 11 a.m to 10 p.m all right thank you other questions um so a few

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questions just logistically one how do you get the trash to the rear of the building because it does

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look like the bar owns the space right behind where you're going to be operating yeah so right

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next to the bar is the driveway so we'll be taking the trash around you know carting it around every

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day and dumping it in a dumpster and then you know bringing the cart back so you're gonna

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got it so you're gonna walk out go around the corner and utilize well do you have access to

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that fence yes but the dumpster is not in the fence it's on the outside of it on the outside

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okay yes and then there's a spot in the back that i guess was parking at some point

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and um i guess it got overgrown and we just cleaned it out and uh waste management put

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the dumpsters there i understand and it looks like the basement is fully submerged below grade

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with no windows what is your plan to provide light air and egress into the basement

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for that to be used as a prep area well not necessarily we're going to use it for storage

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so we'll be yeah we'll be prepping in the kitchen on the first floor but we'll store everything you

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know our you know we're just going to put like a freezer down there you know the things that we

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need to just store everything okay and then are you utilizing is the office on the second floor

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also yours no it's not part of what we're proposing to do no no but like it is part of

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your unit as as part of uh uptown cafe not part of uh as part of the

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it's as part of uh uptown cafe not part of uh it's part of the building yes and it's part of

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the building part of the building but not part of your unit okay part of the restaurant that

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we're proposing correct got it and then for the restaurant you're proposing looking at the first

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floor proposed floor plan it does look like you have this like three foot takeout area and so is

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the intent that the customers are going to come in that shared door come in your door and then

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And they're going to never leave outside of that, like, sort of three-foot area in front of the four-foot wall, between the window and the four-foot wall?

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Yes.

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So, like, only your employees are going to be in, like, the kitchen in the prep area, correct?

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Correct.

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They'll just be behind the counter where the griddle and the fryers are.

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The area on the other side of the countertop is for the customers.

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Okay.

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And then, so, where are your freezers going to be stored or your fridges?

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in the basement so all storage is in the basement and then that first floor area is really like

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active food prep and cooking yes okay and then i guess we already asked about venting through the

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roof i will say the one comment i have is that i think that three foot area is very tiny for even

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as a takeout window area there's not a lot of space there but you don't have a ton of space so

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