And how about planning, sir? Um, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to wait until we see. All right. Okay. All right. So you okay? Absolutely. Thank you members. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
And how about planning?
Sir, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to wait.
them is there anyone else in the audience from the two o'clock list
any hands not at this time chair five minutes we're starting the 330 list okay we have two cases
in five minutes.
All right, I'm going to start.
They'll stop when I start.
Good afternoon, everyone.
My name is Bill Bergman,
and I will be chairing this last meeting today
of the Zoning Board of Adjustment.
With me is our Vice Chair, Tenetta Graham.
President, Mr. Chairman.
Board Secretary, Charlotte L. Gaston.
President, Mr. Chairman.
Board members, Michael Johns.
he's here there he is president mr chairman hi when president mr chairman and layla bb
president mr chairman so here is our board attorney lynn reuter uber our um executive
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Let's look at our schedule for this afternoon.
Number one, MI 2026, 002, 611, 521 West Venango Street.
That case is continued until 2-10.
Chair, both the applicants are in the room today.
Pardon me?
They're here.
They're here?
Okay, we had this listed as a continuance.
All right. Come on up. Come on up. I'm sorry. You sat there. Oh, okay.
Okay. So why don't we do this? Why are you're going to be this post person?
Who wants to talk here? I'll start it. Who wants to talk? All right. Please state your name and
spell for the stenographer? It's Kathleen Torres, K-A-T-H-L-E-E-N-T-O-R-R-E-S. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, right? So why don't we?
and i believe one of the doctors
that you actually found out about ensuring the rco this is a hot dog
right oh i'm sorry i wasn't on sorry about that the mic was off so those i'll repeat it again
because it might not have picked up um again your uh appeals there's two of them will be continued
your appeals there's two of them will be continued because certain documentation
because certain documents
or materials needs to be submitted 14 days prior to today's date and one of them i i know you want
to speak let me just for the record and then i'll then then i can answer your question one of the
documents is proof of mailing that you actually mailed out you have to mail out to certain entities
i'm just being and you have to have proof that you actually did that and then you have to submit that
to the zoning board like when you submit documents and if you don't have that we can't go forward
because then if we don't have proof that you did that someone can come later and say hey we didn't
know about this so it's a way to show you know that you let the you know public know that you
were supposed to let know does that make sense it does okay i know that he wants to speak but okay
no we have some of the no i'm sorry my name willie torres willie torres yeah w-i-l-l-i-e
t-o-r-r-e-s right do you swear or firm to tell the truth told truth please proceed sir
uh we send all the mails and i have some of the mail that even the the neighbor bring in to us
like i don't know what i did was playing to them and uh we went to the uh mr norman for the rco
meeting coordinator he's here they came also uh explain that we were there and some of the
neighbors there so why don't we do this here here's the thing okay we're going to continue it
until 2 10 27 both cases that you have he'll sit and talk with you and then this next thing is
before we come in the next time you can call and make sure that everything's in place we try
Okay. You know, that's all I'm not saying. That's why we're trying to make this though. It's right for you. We came to a meeting before I get to show. All right. All right. Thank you.
Everybody's with the same case, right? Yes. Okay. For both one and two, I believe, right? It is. Yes.
point to the end well you'll have to write it if you want to write another letter or the letter
you sent is fine we'll just keep it in the file okay all right okay good all right so number one
is mi 2026 002 611 52 521 west venango street that's continued to 210 27 at 330 and number two
mi mi 20 86 002 643 523 west venango street that's continuing on to 210 27 330
And number three, MI 2026-002-641-101 East Cortland Street.
This case has been withdrawn.
We're going to start with our number four case.
So it's MI 2026-002-610-1745 Tillman Street.
William O'Brien is the attorney.
William O'Brien has been promoted to panelists.
Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. O'Brien, how are you, sir?
Could you please state and spell your name for the stenographer?
William O'Brien, W-I-L-L-I-A-M-O-B-R-I-E-N.
All right.
Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth?
the old truth nothing but the truth i do mr o'brien could you identify your client
their relationship to the property
bill you're breaking up
you're breaking up bill
llc yep but you're breaking up your your mic or something's off
My mic's on. You can't hear me?
We're hearing you now.
You can't.
Why don't you give us the name of your owner?
Okay. I represent Got2Pay2Play LLC, Pennsylvania Limited Liability Company.
Its managing member, Jonathan Macero, is in the audience.
Okay. Our vice chair has a few questions.
Good evening. Have you submitted your documents as if it's 14 days in advance of this hearing?
yes and do you weigh the reading on your refusals and stipulate to their accuracy
And do you weigh the reading on your refusals and stipulate to their accuracy?
i do okay thank you and proceed with your case thank you um the uh the property we're here for
is 1745 tillman street uh mr massaro the managing member of the owner uh has been a resident a
couple doors away. Bill, we can't hear you. We're not hearing you, Bill. I'm going to go to a different.
Okay. This is frustrating, isn't it? I'm going to go to a different computer.
Okay. I'll come right back. I have one more case.
i'll hear the case and i'll come right back thank you okay all right thank you
yep all right number five mi2026-002-739-2503 welsh road verne anastasio is the attorney
afternoon mr chair members of the board um verne as you you've been here several times today
just for the record please state your name yeah Vern Anastasio A-N-A-S-T-A-S-I-O on behalf of
Gubas properties this is a resumption hearing okay our vice chair well that we don't need
anything but a resumption here we don't need the facts so what what we have is a presentation by
you talking about the evidence board questions public testimony and then planning commission
and then we'll vote okay why don't you yeah uh we had to give an overview of where we stand
yeah you asked for a resumption for uh three points um sure first this one that's all uh first
uh we needed a revised refusal okay we have the revised refusal for a child care center now this
is this is a previous uh uh right aid um at 2503 welsh road um and we needed to get it l and i
I made a mistake on the classification, so you now have that child care center.
I move that into evidence, and then I'll show you what else we have here.
There was a question about the plan.
You wanted a more accurate drawn to scale plan.
We know that that's stamped.
We've also put that into evidence.
That shows traffic flow going both in and out from both streets, all the parking that's available.
I don't know if we need to zoom in more on that.
And I'll stop sharing this.
The third thing you held it for was for an RCO meeting to be held.
We did, in fact, have the RCO meeting.
It was unanimous support by everyone present, although I have yet to receive a letter from the Northeast Alliance.
I'm not sure if they sent one over to you, but I did not get one.
As a bonus, we also have a proposed play area as a portion of the parking lot.
This is option one.
And I believe we have option two.
Hold on.
I'll get option two for you in a minute.
and this corner would be option two
option one in the green option two in the purple
that's it questions from the board can you go back to the green really quick that was yes ma'am
thank you
I guess the question I have, is there a reason that the one of them is so much larger than the
other? I don't think so. Okay. I could call my client to adopt my presentation, and he's been
working with the engineer on this so uh muhammad gubass if you could please raise your virtual
hand we could get you here to answer ms win's question no i can answer that as other
answer Ms. Wynn's question.
I can answer that.
Other ones are just the width of the
parking space.
That part I understood, but then there's the parking
on the... I was just trying to
where they reached... Is there
a target they were trying to reach? Because obviously
the green is a
larger...
more useful
space, but I understand
that it's not adjacent.
and i think depending on which one it is i'd have a couple followed questions okay mohammed
yes could you please please state and spell your name for the stenographer
mohammed guba m-o-h-a-m-e-d g-o-u-b-a-a right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the
whole truth and nothing but the truth yes i do please proceed counsel thank you mohammed first
First, you're a principal participant in this project, is that correct?
That is correct.
And second, you already operate a very successful child care center in the city, is that correct?
Yes, that is correct.
And just to make sure that we understand this, is it correct that it's actually a certified,
a very difficult thing to get, a certified child care center where you even have pre-K?
Yes, correct.
Okay. And you'll be working towards that at this site as well. Is that right?
Okay. Ms. Wynn's question was, is there any particular reason why the purple section that was delineated is smaller than the green section?
So it's just the width of the parking, the way they're set up with variance.
The reason why I wanted to share it with the board is that way so they can give us an idea of where the placement would be ideal.
We've spoken with the civil engineer in terms of routing as you make the turn to make sure that it doesn't impact any of the structure of the playground and the fencing that we end up doing.
Personally, I would have preferred it in the front of the building so that way it can show into a playground, which would draw more crowd.
As parents are driving by, they'll see like a play area in addition to the outside sign of the potential.
Are you talking about the green section?
I'm actually not talking about the purple section.
yes but um uh we've uh we've got you know mixed feedbacks on both both of them are fine
i'm okay with whatever uh the board you know advises on us we're open to either options
thank you you're welcome uh by the way mohammed did you hear my presentation to uh uh adding to
our original hearing yes i did i was there i was present in uh this particular presentation it's
true and accurate to the best of your knowledge it is sir and you adopt this as your own i do
thank you thank you questions for the board
questions from our attorney
um i just wanted to indicate i know that there's parking you've indicated now just so you know
parking is not part of uh what's before the board it's change of use so if there's any issue with
with regard to parking you would have to file a different application on that so noted okay thank
you okay uh questions or comments from the virtual audience at this time to your planning commission
good afternoon Liz Fuseli on behalf of the Philadelphia Planning Commission the
comprehensive plan recommends a zoning change from the RSA 3 residential single-family zoning
to cmx1 neighborhood commercial mixed use at this location excuse me the existing commercial space
is currently vacant and underutilized the appellant has shown that the proposed child care center
will have no detrimental impact beyond what might reasonably be expected the city planning
commission recommends the board grant the proposed variance for a child care center
MI 2026-002-739-2503, Welsh Road.
I vote yes with proviso per amended refusal dated September 11, 2026.
Michael Johns, my vote is yes with proviso, and I agree with the green one, not the purple.