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ZBA Hearing - January 29, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 29, 20256h 11m

we have another drawing if you go up in the drawings sorry

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i keep going higher

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yeah sorry we don't have that site plan um but actually it is a jace is in the back rear yard

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oh is it in the picture 17 is it that picture 17 if you click on 17 you should see the rear of it

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thank you right so that's so that's the area that

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yes that's right okay any other questions

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i do have a question about the it looks like in the letter of support there was

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conversation about off-site parking and just wondering how you resolved that with the local

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rca so the the discussion was about the church which is a cat kitty corner across the street

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and they have a parking lot which is directly across the street uh and the idea is that i mean

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they only use it on sundays and so they're we've reached out to them we don't have a resolution on

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that but the idea would be that the um tenants could park their car there we don't we don't have

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that um resolved yet but it seems like it's something that would be an agreement between

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the tenant and the church if that works out and then where's the bike storage the bike storage

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is also in the back on and i'm sorry i'm not sure what happened to the site plan but is adjacent to

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the trash storage area we have um bike storage in that backyard as well so how are tenants are

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tenants only accessing that rear yard by exiting through the building or will they have access from

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the sidewalk to that would have access from the sidewalk as well as from well that stair which i

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mentioned in that corner uh is now turned towards the sidewalk in order to have that accessible

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area so that that stair right there um will be way down into the sidewalk and then there'll be

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a gate into that backyard which will be accessed to both the trash and the bike area and then do

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all 20 units have access to all four roof like balconies no those are just for those units

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okay questions for our attorney hillary emerson

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not at this time mr jerry comments from the audience

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questions or comments from the virtual audience

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i do not see any further hands mr chair planning commission

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amy boyd with the planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends a change in

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zoning at this location from residential single-family rsa 5 to industrial commercial mixed

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industrial commercial mixed use icmx the proposal includes reuse of an existing industrial building

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use ICMX. The proposal includes reuse

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the proposal for residential is in harmony with the surrounding area the pellet has not shown that

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there are unique physical conditions or circumstances that would prevent the property

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from being used in performance of the zoning code for roof depth deck setbacks and max building

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height the planning commission recommends a board grant the requested variance for multifamily

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but deny the requested variances for roof setbacks and max building height.

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Thank you.

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MI 2024-006-330-560107 Ray Street, I vote yes.

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Michael Johns, I vote yes.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes.

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Teneda Graham, my vote is yes.

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Tywin, my vote is yes.

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Ishmael Shahid, my vote is yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Counsel, you have one other case.

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Why don't we just...

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Number 13, MI 2024-006-564-2012 Spruce Street.

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Mr. Patterson, just for the record, state your name.

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Sure.

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Good afternoon.

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Ron Patterson, E-A-T-T-E-R-S-O-N.

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Can you identify your client and the relationship to the property?

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Yes, I can.

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Kristen, please tell the board your name and address.

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Hi, I'm Kristen Leslie.

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Would you spell your name, please, for the stenographer?

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Perfect.

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K-R-I-S-T-I-N-L-E-S-L-I-E.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So, Mr. Patterson, why don't you say that?

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Sure.

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So, Mr. Chairman, the property is in ownership of Acadia Holdings Partners, LLC.

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Yes.

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Is that your corporation?

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Yes.

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Your principal?

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Okay.

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So, you purchased this house, correct?

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Yes.

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And you and your husband and children?

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Yes.

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I have three kids.

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And we'll get to, I'll explain about the property in a minute,

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but I just want to get you in and out. So, and what would you like to do with this property?

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We'd like to make it our permanent home. We've lived here since 2011, where we met here

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and have had our kids here and plan to hopefully raise them here. But with such a big family

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and possibly maybe one more eventually, who knows? We were looking to make sure that our

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family had the space. And do you also, both you and your husband have businesses?

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Yes, we both are entrepreneurs and work for ourselves.

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Okay, thank you.

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John?

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Can you move?

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No, you can sit here.

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So I'll start.

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I just wanted to introduce you.

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Sure, why don't you start?

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So this property, this application regards 2012 Spruce Street.

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It's mid-block.

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I'm going to share my screen.

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Thank you.

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there we go okay uh 2012 spruce street mid block it's a historically designated structure

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built in 1860. It was originally built as a house. It was later converted to apartments

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and then back to a single-family dwelling unit in 2001, around that time. When it was returned

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to a single-family dwelling unit, it was recreated in its original footprint and format

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to historical characteristics. But that characteristics, as you'll hear, and the

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layout is not useful in modern times in which to raise a young family. For example, there's a

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kitchen in the basement. So as I mentioned, the Leslie's purchased it in 2004. It had been on the

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market since 2009, which is evidence of the fact that the format and the design was not working

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for anyone, especially with respect to the price that was being asked. Part of this application,

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um part of this uh this application this is the front is to um add an addition in the rear on the

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This is the front.

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fourth first fourth floor level for an infill to match the others on the block to create a few

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other roof decks um the property is located in an rm1 residential zoning district which does allow

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single-family dwelling units. The maximum building height there is 38 feet, but the property in the

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building, contrary to the refusal, is a little incorrect. The building exists at 55 feet in

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height. And what the rear addition is doing is adding in an infill, which Mr. Reckley will

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testify to, that brings the height to 53 feet, 10 and a half inches. So we believe, therefore,

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there's no adverse impact to the rear area here and we did meet with um the registered community

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organization center city residents association last night and they voted not to oppose i don't

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know if you have a copy of that the letter but if not i'll show it to you hillary we had that right

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yes we did receive that thank you thank you

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and we also have a petition of support by the jason and immediate neighbors which i'm not

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I believe you may have that as well, but if not, I'll show it.

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I believe. Yeah, I believe we got that sent today.

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Yes. Great. Thank you.

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And lastly, the what is proposed here with the addition of the roof decks, since it was it is historically designated, we did apply to the Philadelphia Historical Commission, which approved this design.

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So with that said, I'm going to ask Mr.

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Weckerley questions. Hi, sir. Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Yes, sir. John Weckerley, Boxwood Architects, J-O-H-N-W-E-C-K-E-R-L-Y.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes. Please proceed, counsel.

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John, what's your occupation? Architect.

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And you're familiar with the property and you designed these plans we're going to testify about

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today yes okay so um could you explain the current house layout and then just direct me to whatever

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uh sheets you want to exhibit you want to look through do you have the set that is our set there

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yeah yes so if you could just start on that um and then that first page there at the upper right

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image as you can see as ron was describing the uh and if you can just zoom in everyone if you want to

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so you can see uh in this section here as ron was describing the uh the existing the existing

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building has an existing force fourth floor on the front side on the spruce street side

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And the proposal is to extend that existing fourth floor to the rear of the property.

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In addition to the addition you see here represented in the middle, the stair penthouse, as well as an elevator shaft that's being proposed within the existing atrium of the floor plan.

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And as Ron said, the existing peak of the fourth floor is at 55 feet and the lowest portion of the upper roof of that fourth floor is at 53 feet, 10 and a half.

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in conversation and i'll show this in a moment in conversation with the historic commission

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they asked that the addition marry with the height of the top of the back side of that existing

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fourth floor addition which is what we proceeded to continue with on the design and briefly discuss

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the current layout of the of the building and why it's not so useful what's interesting about

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the existing floor plate of the building is that there's an interior atrium and stairwell just get

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to show you here you can see in this general area right here in the middle of the structure there's

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a stairwell and atrium combination that, in essence,

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a stairwell and atrium combination that, in essence, accounts for 17% of the floor plate

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area, which really ends up dividing the home, unlike a traditional row home where the rooms

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stack one, two, three, as you go from front to back, the atrium and stairwell occupying

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the center core of the building really creates a left side, right side aspect of the floor

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plan in general as you move up through the through the property so uh in talking do zoom in a little

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bit while you're talking about it sure hard to follow there we go

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this is the plan at the fourth floor um which shows the uh existing stair and atrium which is

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actually a little bit wider uh there on the existing condition plan but this shows the

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uh elevator shaft is being proposed um so uh as ron asked like that that in large part that um

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you know condition where where there's a left side right side kind of was uh in the front end

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of the conversation to how we program the um uses of the rooms and uh the the need to introduce

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bedrooms and location of the kitchen and so forth as it as it kind of configured to kind of

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stack either on the front of the property or the or the rear of the property would you say that's

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why the building hasn't been utilized i i would think that's a very strong reason as to why

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and so what are we proposing to to change that so if i can just back up now to show the massing

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So here you can see what these renderings represent are at the Spruce Street side you can see this lower right image is a rendering of the existing condition directly to the left of that is a rendering showing the proposed condition which is no change on the Spruce Street side.

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and then uh on the then as a as a bird's eye view of that same area kind of from the spruce street

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side you can see on the right hand side is the existing condition with the heightened fourth

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floor and the existing lower area behind it directly behind it to the left as i'm hovering

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here you can see the proposed continuation of the fourth floor as it moves towards the rear of the

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of the building and then uh and the height we're proposing on an infill is commensurate with the

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existing building heights yes and i'll show you that here right now you can point out the uh the

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neighbor the immediate neighbor who signed the letter of support i will yes so here you can see

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in this lower uh left image is the existing condition and then uh this is the proposed

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showing the proposed addition as i mentioned earlier this roof line here per the request

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from the historic commission is that that this area it represents the back of the existing fourth

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floor and they ask that that mansard roof line continue turn the corner and continue around so

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our height matches with that condition um and that's our only refusal directed we're exceeding

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38 feet where we've already exceeded it to 55 feet. That's correct. Okay. So it's not about

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massing or gross FOIA or FAR? No. So would you agree that the design comports with the character

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and context of the neighborhood and that it would create no adverse impacts? Yes. Okay. Thank you.

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There's also just to mention the darker gray images modeling masses in this image here

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represent structures that have that same condition where the fourth floor has been extended to the

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back and there's also uh i don't have that drawing with us here but there's a there's i believe two

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properties on the cypress street side which is the uh rear uh street behind the property that

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oh you know what here it is here actually so this this uh this represents the immediate area these

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yellow um highlights here represent our property is here with the red dot uh and then this this

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building uh three properties to the west and uh one two three four properties to the east also

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have the addition continuing to the back um and then uh and then directly across from uh the

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property on cypress street uh on the back there this property has a has an extension as well

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i believe the letter of support uh came from this property here uh directly to the east of

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of our property, which would

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our property, which would be 2010.

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be 2010. Great. Thank you.

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Great. Thank you.

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Questions

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for the port?

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Yes. Will you be carrying this

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rent-to-a-system once you go over to

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the next floor? Yes.

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Thank you.

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Not question,

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but comment.

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Our office, well, my

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former office building was at 1622

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spruce and so that condition you're talking about with the interior sort of stairwell where

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