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ZBA Hearing - May 12, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 12, 20214h 52m

questions okay i'm sorry can we just pause for one moment please i'm being as though she is the

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one to present jason can you promote her to a panelist please right away ma'am

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she has now been promoted to panelist

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Okay, ma'am, can you put your name and address on the record and spell your last name?

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Where is she?

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She already did.

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We already swore her in.

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Yeah, I already swore her in.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Have you emailed an exhibit packet?

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Can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Have you emailed the exhibit packet with proof of ownership tax compliance, a copy of the refusal or referral,

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photos and plans of the property five days in advance of this hearing and have you met with

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the rco and do you have a letter yes okay you may proceed okay so um i'm trying to figure out how to

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share because um i really this is my first time doing it so i'm just trying to figure out no

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worries miss McCann are you on a computer or tablet I'm on a tablet you're on a tablet

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so do you have your documents on your tablet

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So, do you have your documents on your tablet?

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Yes, I have it in the email on the tablet.

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So, can you open up those documents so that they can be on your screen?

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Okay.

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So, what do I do?

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Do I go to the email and just open it up and then come back on here?

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Yes, you should be able to open them up so that your file is actually open because you're going to actually hit the green button.

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And I believe that should be on the bottom of your tablet that says share in order to share those documents on the screen.

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Okay, I see it.

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All right.

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Okay, I'm coming.

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I'm sorry.

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Okay, that's not it.

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okay sorry i'm so sorry y'all i'm really i was trying to figure this out before i got to this

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point okay can y'all see not yet did you hit the share button at the bottom of your screen

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yes and then did you it was at the top of my screen and i'm on the photos now and the photos

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is like open. Yeah, we don't see it. It hasn't been shared to us yet. I think it's like trying

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to share it is like, is like the internet or something. Let me see. And you did hit the share

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button yes um excuse me we don't see anything yet miss sunken do you mind if i ask her a question

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no go right ahead thank you sure are you i'm using um a mac um ios system

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it was an ipad yes okay um

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do you have airplay do you know if you have airplay on your anywhere on your screen

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um if you have like basic sharing screen you could look for something called airplay and

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then click the blue share button okay i'm gonna look now or you can do like miss sunkett said

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which would be best if you're able to hover near the bottom of your screen or like with your finger,

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like I guess scroll and see if the green share button comes up.

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It came up and then it's asking me like if I want to do my screen.

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Yes, you do your screen and then you.

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Okay.

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You had it for a second.

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I did? I did? Okay, okay, I'm so sorry. Sorry, y'all. I'm so sorry.

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All right. Oh, gosh. Is this sharing it?

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I'm a little bit. So I'm on here and I'm trying to share it. I go here.

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So I can just see them now.

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I don't know how to share it.

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Right here, right?

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No.

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Oh, share the screen.

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Yeah.

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I think it's about the video, but where's the screen?

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You're trying to share the screen, right?

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Right.

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Screen.

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Sorry, Burry.

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Could we move to the next case while you guys are trying to work out the technical issues?

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Hey, sorry about that.

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no problem this happens all the time so don't no worries we'll just go we'll go to the next case

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come back to you that'll be case number five uh case number three isn't it uh three was continued

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oh okay calendar number wasn't it i didn't call it for continuance for some reason i have it

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This continued.

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Okay, I'm going to, let me call it calendar number 0371-3401 Aramingo Avenue.

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The attorney is Jennifer Bozzillo.

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I love the screen.

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We still.

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i've been proud of the panelists

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now we have the screen that yeah from the prior case miss mccants

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Yeah, from the prior case, Ms. McCants.

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Hello.

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Can you please unshare your screen?

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Okay.

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Are we moving on?

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Right.

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Okay.

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Okay, Jennifer, you weren't requesting a continuance, correct?

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No, you called number two for number three.

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That was continued.

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Number three was continued, but I'm actually number two on the list.

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I'm not

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Are you for Aramingo Avenue?

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Yes

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Number three on our list

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And that

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Okay, let's go forward

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Either way, it's our

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3401 Aramingo Avenue

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Sure

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Can you put your name and address on the record

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Please, it's by your last name

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Okay, Jennifer

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Bizzidlo, B as in boy

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A as in apple, Z as in zebra

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of y d and david ellison larry o is an oscar 4500 worth street suite d 202 philadelphia pennsylvania

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19124 and you swear or firm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth reporter my

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audio just cut out hello yes um we can hear you john um are you able to hear us now no

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um do we have the ability to message the court reporter excuse me hello what a day

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um tanya do you uh hello hello we can hear you

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does anyone have the court miss sunk it do you have the court reporter's um

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email that we could message him uh no uh what did he say what's the problem he said

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he can't hear us but we can i have excuse me can you hear us now john

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no he can't he needs to go out and come back in let me see if i can chat with him

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can anyone hear me and we can all hear you

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We all can hear you.

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Yes, we hear you.

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Chair, I requested that he go out and come back in.

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Sure.

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Thank you.

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excuse me john can you hear us now yes i can i apologize i my audio cut out right after it

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happens no problem no worries no worries introducing yourself i apologize i i don't

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know what happened no worries no worries all right so we're ready

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hi do you swear to tell the whole truth and nothing about the truth yes okay i'll put my

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name and address on the record just one more time just to make sure the court reporter heard me

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my name is jennifer bazillo b as in boy a as in apple z as in zebra y d as in david l as in larry

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o as in oscar my address is 4500 worst street suite d202 philadelphia pennsylvania 19124

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Thank you.

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Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Have you emailed the exhibit packet with proof of ownership, tax compliance, refusal, referral,

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photos, and plans of the property five days in advance of this hearing?

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And have you met with the RCO?

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And do you have a letter?

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Yes, to all.

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Thank you.

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You may proceed.

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All right.

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My name is Jennifer Bezidlow.

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Like I said, I'm here today with Shinpei Kuo and possibly Scott Montgomery.

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He might have had to drop off.

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both are representatives of the property owner of 3401 Aramingo Avenue which is map real estate

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um I've I have in front of us a packet which is one second the my bar is in front of where

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Bar is in front of where I need to scroll. Okay, so I have a packet that includes the refusal, deed, proof of tax compliance, a unanimous letter of support from ProPAC, the community notification letters with proof of mailing, aerial views of the property, a zoning map, photographs, and plans.

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I need to scroll okay so I have a packet that includes

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I'm going to try to keep this fairly short for you because I know we are running late.

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And this is a fairly simple sign variance, a dimensional variance with community support.

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So 340 on Aramingo Avenue is a large parcel.

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It's over 157,000 square feet.

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It is along the Aramingo Commercial Corridor.

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Jennifer, we're still on the table of contents.

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Sorry.

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I'm trying to get to where it can scroll. One second. Here we go.

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So I got the refusal.

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Here's our deed.

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Let's see if it's map real estate on there. That's the owner.

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This is proof of tax payment.

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and our letter of unanimous support from pro pack

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community notification letters

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i think there's only like 28 parcels that even needed to be notified here it's a short list

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and I'll get I'll get to these pictures in a little bit in my presentation but

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let's just go to this first picture right here so this is 3401 Aramingo Avenue like I said it's a

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large parcel over 157,000 square feet it's located along the Port Richmond Aramingo

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commercial corridor where there's a whole bunch of these big box stores and shopping centers.

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It's on Aramingo in Ontario, the corner, and it runs back through Gall Street.

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This is formerly Toys R Us, now at Burlington. And as you can see off to the side here,

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there's also was a former Payless shoe store. And the plan is that this Burlington is going

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to continue to exist. And in the area where there was a Payless shoe store is going to be a CVS.

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This is all by right. We're not here about the use. We are rather here about this sign for the CVS.

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So let me go to my plans here.

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The plan is to attach a double-sided static illuminated CVS sign under the existing Burlington sign.

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The Burlington sign is currently about 93 square feet per side.

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The CVS sign will be a little over 41 square feet per side for a total of 134 square feet per side.

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There'll be no blinking, no animation, it's just a standard CVS sign that you've probably seen on many other CVS's throughout the city.

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The only refusal is for the square footage of the combined signs.

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So let me get to the zoning map to explain what's happening.

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This is our parcel here, and it is zoned ICMX.

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In that zoning, by right, you can have one 20-foot tall freestanding sign per street frontage.

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And each sign can have four faces of up to 100 square feet per side.

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So on total, since we have three street frontages here, we could actually have a total of 1,200 square feet of signage.

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but what we're proposing is roughly 268 square feet of total signage but since it's on one sign

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instead of on three different signs this requires a variance but it's not it's also not out of place

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at all with um so besides being less signage than we could actually put on the property

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it's not out of line with what's already in existence on this commercial corridor this is

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going north on Aramingo Avenue. You can see that we have lots of other large signs. This is another

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photo up north. You can see these other large signs. This is going south. You see more billboards

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and advertising signs. It's a commercial corridor. We're not facing anyone's home. In fact, it's

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facing another large shopping center this ross shopping center with an even larger sign across

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from it um i know that this property is icmx because that puts on some more stringent um

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stringent signage requirements that we're only slightly over but if you look at the zoning map

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But if you look at the zoning map, the rest of the commercial corridor, other than this little portion of this block, is zone CA2, which is a car-oriented commercial, which is actually how we're using this property and how this property has been used for decades.

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the rest of the commercial corridor other than this little portion

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And this sign would be by right in a CA2 zoning. So it would be by right across the street. It would be by right next door. And in fact, in way below the requirement for CA2, which we could actually have, I believe, up to 10 signs with 150 square feet of signage per face.

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So we're significantly below what would be allowed by Wright in the adjacent parcels, and we're significantly below the total square footage of what would be of sign square footage that we would be allowed on our property, even in ICMX.

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I'm going to go back to that photo of across the street. Like I said, this is what our sign is going to face, this other gigantic sign, which is significantly bigger than our sign.

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So we did meet with ProPAC. Let me get to that page. And there is no opposition at all. They were totally in support of the sign variants. They understood that this is a commercial corridor that has lots of these signs and in no way would it be disturbing any sort of residential use.

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um and it's just going to fit in with the other signs that are in the neighborhood most people

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wouldn't even know that it was out of compliance you have a client that you need to adopt your

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testimony yes so um rise and we'll get to that yeah shouldn't pay um can you raise your hand

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they have been allowed to speak

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please identify yourself hi please identify yourself for the record spell your first and

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last name and i'll swear you in okay uh shouldn't pay kuo uh spelled s as in sam h i n as in nancy

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p as in paul e i last name is k u o where and different or affirm to tell the truth the whole

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truth nothing but the truth yes thank you jennifer uh shimpe did you hear my testimony here today

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