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ZBA Hearing - March 15, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 15, 20234h 49m

mailings and things like that and then here are applications for appeal

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our deed to the property and it's in one dv2 properties entity four oops

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240 and

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242 kilos. But for

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record keeping purposes, the

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city has it as 242 kilos

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parcels A&D.

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And then there are

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certificate of tax claims

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showing that

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$800.69 is owed

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for, it's still under one

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tax ID

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number, but that's for 2023

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taxes, which aren't due

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until March 31st of this year.

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With that being said,

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I would ask that Papa virtually raise his hand

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and state his name for the record, be sworn in,

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and we would be more than happy

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to take any questions from the board.

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Could you state your name, please,

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and spell for the court reporter?

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Sir?

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we see his hand we see a hand raised no no hands

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I see no hands at this time

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I see no hands at this time chair just a moment chair two hands have just gone

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okay uh Mr. Dockamson what is your client's name uh uh it's uh Papa uh Dembale or it would be

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Robert Dewey.

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Okay.

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Mr. Popper, please unmute yourself and wait

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for the chance.

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Could you state your name

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and spell it, please, for the court reporter?

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My name is

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Papa Dembele. First name

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is P-A-P-A.

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Last name is D-E-M-B-E-L-E.

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Do you

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swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole

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truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes.

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Proceed, counsel. Oh, yeah.

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Mr. Debelli, you heard everything I had to state about your zoning matter.

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Yes.

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And is it correct?

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Yes.

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And do you adopt it as your own testimony?

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Yes, I do.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board?

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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Jim?

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Jim?

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Questions or comments from the audience, virtual audience?

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Mr. Chair, this is Hillary.

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We have a Carlos Hurtado.

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Mr. Hurtado, you can unmute yourself.

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Hold on, Hillary.

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Hold on a second.

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Yeah, so because this is going back to the RCO with revised plans,

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I suggest we do all public comment on this matter at the resumption hearing.

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Okay.

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Okay, good, great.

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Do we want planning to take a position?

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If they're prepared to take a position on the revised plans,

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or if they would rather wait until after their community feedback in case there are other changes, yeah.

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David?

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You know, if there could be other changes, I think we prefer to wait.

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Okay, good.

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All right. So there's going to be for for MI 2022 006184 242 Kalo Street 157873 and MI 2022 006182 242 Kalo Street 157873.

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there's going to be a resumptive hearing on april 19th at 2 p.m

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and at that time mr chair we will we will take um any uh public public comment uh planning

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commission recommendation and of course a response from mr knockamson right thank you

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okay thank you mr knockamson stay stay on a minute see where jim is

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Bill, I'm sorry

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No, no, we're fine

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You don't have to be sorry, we're fine

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I'm sitting here trying to

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become unmuted and I was having an issue

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Sorry

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Alright, Mr. Nackamson, number 10

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MI 2022

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0061717510

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Thoron Avenue

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Thuron Avenue. Letter of support from the 10th Ward Democratic RCL and a letter of support from

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Letter of support from

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the

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Council Member Phillips. So, Mr. Chair, I'm going to defer to my colleague, Alex Goldberg,

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who will be making that presentation. Yep. Thank you. Mr. Goldberg, could you state your name,

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please? Spell for the court reporter.

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do we see mr goldberg's hand mr goldberg please unmute yourself and wait for the

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can you hear me yes we can mr goldberg could you state your name please and spell for the

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court reporter alex goldberg a-l-e-x-g-o-l-d-b-r-g right do you swear firm to tell the truth

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the whole truth and nothing about the truth? I do. Is your video on? It's not. I don't think

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I'm promoted to be able to do that at this point. Could we do that, please? There we go.

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He's been promoted, Chair. He's going to come back in as a panelist shortly. Sure.

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Hi. Mr. Goldberg, could you identify your client and the relationship to the property?

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Yes, my client is Gregory Granovsky. He's the property owner of 7510 Theron Avenue.

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All right. And Mr. Holloman has just a few questions for you, sir.

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Good afternoon, sir.

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Good afternoon.

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Did you email all the exhibits and documents as required five days in advance to this hearing?

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Did you meet with the RCO and do you have a letter?

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Yes, in all respects.

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Thank you. Please proceed and share your screen.

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Okay, are you able to see my screen?

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We do.

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Okay, great.

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Again, I'm Alex Goldberg of Nockimson PC.

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I'm here with Greg Granoffsky, the property owner of 7510 Theron Avenue.

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We are seeking one variance to use this property as a duplex.

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As you'll see in my presentation, this property, along with all of the surrounding properties on this portion of Theron Avenue, were built as duplexes, have a long history of duplexes.

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But this one, however, the prior owner had passed away and his estate failed to keep the licensing up.

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When Mr. Granovsky purchased the property, he wasn't able to get a rental license.

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since it wasn't, you know, able to be legally used as a duplex,

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and hence why we're going through this process.

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So here's my table of contents.

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You have the notice of refusal, just one refusal for the duplex,

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a letter of support from the 10th Democratic Ward,

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a unanimous letter of support.

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And my understanding is that a letter of support was issued by Council Member

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Phillips' office.

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We don't have that letter, but I understand it was sent to the zoning board.

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We have the letter.

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Great. And then a map of the 7500 block of Thrawn Avenue.

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You'll see nearly the entire block is being used as a duplex.

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A red fin posting just to show that when Mr. Granovsky purchased the property, it was advertised as such a multifamily property.

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Some maps of the area, photographs, very simple plans and drawings, a meeting notice, the application for appeal, the deed, and the certificate of tax clearance.

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So here's the notice of refusal.

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So the application is actually for the duplex as well as the removal of an interior off-street parking space.

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So these properties have rear-loading garages from a rear alley street.

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When Mr. Granovsky purchased the property, there was a make-safe violation for some serious structural images related to the rear wall of the property.

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So in order to resolve those violations, which he's done, he sort of infilled the garage with a rear wall.

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So that's part of this application.

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You'll see it on the photos to make sure, you know, to stabilize the rear of the building.

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You know, when Greg purchased the property, he spoke to the neighbors.

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A lot of this structural damage had caused water leakage issues during heavy rain flowing into the neighboring property.

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So they were quite happy that he was not only cleaning up this sort of dilapidated property, but also fixing those structural issues.

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Here's our letter of support from the 10th Democratic Ward.

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We met with him on January 25th.

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You can see here, he was unanimous, 24 votes of support.

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Here's the 7500 block of Thrawn Avenue.

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So we took a look on Atlas to see a public record, and you can see 20 properties.

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uh to see a public record uh and you can see um 20 properties uh and nestled in the middle

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and a green icon is our property actually when we presented at the rco meeting the neighbors were

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confused why we this was even happening because they you know in their words this already is a

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duplex uh and you know we explained sort of the process uh here's some photos of the neighboring

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properties they all look the same they all look the same inside they're all duplexes here's a

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real estate listing you can see under about this home this is a listing from when he purchased

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the property it was advertised as a multi-family home there's an atlas map the property is between

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east johnson street and east cliveden and forest ave and gilbert street and another google maps

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perspective here's some photographs so this is the front of the property look

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just like the ones I just showed you and the rear you can see here this is the

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work that was done to fix those structural issues the properties

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currently vacant has been since he purchased it he's waiting for this

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permitting to go through hopefully to do some you know cosmetic repairs on the

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inside there is one additional interior alteration that I'll show you you know

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that's that's useful to the future tenants of this property's property uh here's the notice

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posting on the front and on the rear to the right of the property and to the left and here's the

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plans and drawings so here's the site plan um the floor plan is very simple the one uh thing that

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he's hoping to add to the uh interior here is uh stairs going downward um into a shared hallway in

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the rear to allow the the upstairs unit access to the rear because that's where trash is picked up

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from this is a mid-block property and they're all attached so not having this um would require

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you know either trash yeah i'm not even sure it would have it would require the tenant to walk

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around the the existing structures there so now uh you know it's easy for the upstairs tenant to

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get to the rear yard here's the meeting notice again we met on january 25th at six o'clock it

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was a well-attended meeting. Here's the properties we mailed and the proof of mailing.

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The application for appeal. And here is our deed showing Gregory Granovsky owns this property,

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has since 2022. And finally, the tax clearance showing the only outstanding tax for 2023,

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which is not quite yet due um with that uh i will ask mr granofsky to adopt my testimony

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mr goldberg did you say you were going to show us something inside did i hear that yeah i could

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show again so it was just oops can you see the presentation the it was just yeah i was just

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referencing the the stairway uh okay all right okay allowing uh yeah the upper level unit access

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that's fine all right good thank you

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sir could you state your name and spell for the court reporter if you're in the virtual audience

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can you please raise your hand mr granowski please unmute yourself

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wait here yes hi could you state your name please and spell it for the report reporter

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My name Gregory Granovsky is a G-R-Y-G-O-R-I-Y. And the last name is a G-R-A-N is an N-C-O-V-S-K-I-Y. Good afternoon.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth is nothing but the truth.

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Yes.

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Proceed, counsel.

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Hi, Mr. Granovsky. Did you hear my presentation today?

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Yes.

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And was it true and correct?

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Yes.

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And you adopted as if it were your own?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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So questions or comments on the board?

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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I see no hands at this time, Chair.

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Planning Commission?

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Thank you, Chair.

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David Fechtow, City Planning Commission.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the residential single-family zoning at this location.

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The applicant has shown that the property has a history of use as a duplex.

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The City Planning Commission recommends the board grant the use of variants, but deny the variants for removal of an off-street parking space.

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Thank you. MI-2022.

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Do you mind if I just respond to that briefly?

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