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ZBA Hearing - July 28, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 28, 20206h 57m

and then extending further on the 1800 block of West Tioga, multifamilies,

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existing multifamilies, blighted buildings, burned out buildings,

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vacant lots, further down all the way to 19th and Tioga,

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a multifamily building which was developed down there not too long ago.

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So vacant lots in the church and multifamilies, bottom of page 11 through page 12.

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And then as you see of page 13, it's the north side of West Tioga.

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All these buildings are being utilized, or most of them are being utilized for multifamilies.

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Presently, you have a vacant lot, again, across the street, then heading down to 17th Street.

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you have a vacant lot again across the street then heading down to 17th street you have uh

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two small commercial buildings at the northwest corner a church on the northeast corner

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um community center up to south east corner and then again the tall massive

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uh existing building adjacent to us abiding us to the east on the southwest corner of 17th and west

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tayoga on page 18.

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the bottom of 19 is the building and the properties that extend from what

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south 17th street behind our property and this is the wall of the building

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directly to the east of us no windows or openings to speak of

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that would be blocking there the sanborns i referenced earlier

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showing structures existing similar to the other structures those that remain

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on our side of on our south side of west the 1700 block of West Ioga they

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dating back to 1921 but as I stated in 1989 you can see

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right here you can still see the existing buildings and this is page 98 of our exhibit book

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but yet in 1992 and since 92 they've been vacant you can see the large amounts of open area

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that are located um to the south of us and again in terms of our structure extending to the south

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we are to the north of those some of the development that you have to the south

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of us so even with the reduced rear yard depth and the extra massing we won't be

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shadowing those properties because of our physical location to them exhibit

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19 is that road snack article that I've referenced every time I've come before

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this board with one of the projects we're developing up in this neighborhood

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10 worst neighborhoods for philadelphia for 2019 and this neighborhood was number one

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and i believe per the article had been number one the prior year as well ranked last year

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number one change so my my client is investing this has been several many years that he's been

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involved in getting these projects many of which we've already brought to you including the other

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senior multifamily on this block to try to rehabilitate and jumpstart this

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neighborhood. Tab 20 has to do with their concept, their healthy living concept,

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providing bicycles, making bicycles available for their tenants. And then a tab

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21 and 22, 21 is the North 17th Street conceptual design for multicultural

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for a multi-use redevelopment,

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which I believe was a collaboration

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between Tayoga United, which is the coordinating RCO here

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and then other organizations that got involved.

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And I've provided this in each of the cases,

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the many cases we've brought

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for the development project up here up in this area so i'm just going to scroll through that

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then i think we also have uh here yeah here we go we have i think the planning commission's report

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also you can find that just one minute

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um leading up that was at tab 22 but i'm not i know we're pressed for time 23 um is the zoning

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archive for our property 1708 doesn't have an archive and 1710 um has very very few documents

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again i think the sandborns speak more as to the history of the property and then tab 24 is notice

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of decision and the approved drawings as EVA stamp drawings and permitted drawings for 1718 West

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Tioga. Again that was for 34 units on this on the single lot of 1718 West Tioga.

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And here you can see that building.

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That was a five-story building but obviously isn't tucked up against an eight-story building.

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similar configuration to what we're proposing here basically essentially

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identical in many respects. We already spoke, as we showed earlier, the CDR

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completion letter dated June 9th with the commentary that we received at that

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time. Tab 26 is the email we received or my clients received designated

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Email we received or my clients received

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Designated title of United as a coordinating RCO

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the list of addresses to which the

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14303 notice was sent

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Page 295 you have the 14303 notice that went out for the community group meeting again

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I wasn't an intent it was not in attendance and but my client and the architect were and can speak to

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what might have transpired at that meeting, if there are any questions, and then starting at

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page 297, you have our certificates of service of the 14, mailing of the 14303 notice to the

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list of addresses that we pulled. We were provided by the, provided by the planning commissioner,

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which we pulled up through the link, or were pulled through the link. I did not do the mailing,

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um my client did uh as i referenced earlier tab 27 is our letter of support and i believe i stated

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um state representative i apologize i realized as soon as i said it's our state representative i

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said it's state senator reeve street his letter of support he does reference um issues with the

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issues with the neighborhood and what we're trying to do here and then at tab 28 is a letter of

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support from Tioga United, which does talk about reducing the number of units, which we did again

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by taking off a whole story to go reduce from 60 to 50. So with that, Anthony, did you hear the

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statements that I made to the board? Anthony, I need to get your name and address. Identify yourself

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for the record please. Anthony. I'm going to jump to Kurt maybe. Kurt. Yes. Kurt. Chairman could you

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swear Mr. Raymond in? Please identify yourself. Your name and address for the record. Kurt Raymond

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N-K-U-R-T-R-A-Y-M-O-N-D, 1520 Locust Street, Suite 702.

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Raymond, do you swear and affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Thank you. Please proceed.

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Kurt, did you hear the statements that I made to the board?

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I did.

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And are they true and correct, to the best of your knowledge?

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They are.

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And would you adopt them as your own?

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I would.

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And Anthony, are you on yet, either telephone or otherwise?

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he's on he has to unmute himself and speak

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can you unmute

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anyone else david while we're waiting for him

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no he's um those are my two witnesses

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all right well we're fine

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all right um i would like to have him speak if he does come

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he chimes in and obviously have him adopt my statements because some of them were outside of

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what kurt would speak to okay oh anthony no this is tanya chair we do have three other people who

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wish to testify um all right so uh members of the board i can have as i indicated kurt can run

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through the design the changes that have been made the floor plans um for the sake of time

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do you have my muted okay i'm going to come to you in a second anthony hold on do you have any

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questions for kurt regarding the architectural elements of the um of the proposal that questions

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for the board anyone board member have any questions no no i'm not okay let's go to anthony

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Anthony, Mr. Cameron, would you swear Mr. Miles in?

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Can you identify himself with a record, please?

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Name and address.

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Anthony Miles, 3900 North 16th Street.

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Mr. Miles, do you swear in a firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Anthony, just real quickly, Kurt Raymond is the architect for the project, correct?

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Yes.

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And his firm did all the designs for the project?

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Yes.

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And he is the one who came with you to the community group meeting

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and also was involved in the CDR submission and presentation?

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Yes.

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And Anthony, did you hear the statements that I made during this hearing to the board?

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Yes.

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And were they true and correct to the best of your knowledge?

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Yes.

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And do you adopt them as your own?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Not to put you on the spot, but you heard Ms. Grumbelow.

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all the projects that we've brought that i've brought with you to the board there's been an

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there's been an element of affordable housing not that we qualified for bonus because of the zoning

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element of affordable housing um not that we call

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classification of the property but it was a commitment that you made to the community groups

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and the commitment you made to the board to provide affordable housing even in those

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lower lower smaller multi-family development projects miss brumbelow you proposed affordable

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housing aspect to this proposal. You heard Ms. Brumbelow's request was suggesting that there

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be a deed restriction or some more clearly defined commitment to providing that affordable housing.

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Can you speak to that with what you might be willing to do for the board's benefit?

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Yeah, we don't have any issues with, you were correct, that we made a personal commitment

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to provide 15 percent of everything we build would have affordable component so we have no

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issue with keeping our word uh on this project or the other project that we already got approved

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and when we say affordable when we presented and the board would have no way to remember this

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um we we were you we utilized the we were generally presenting the city's workforce housing

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criteria in terms of affordable housing is that correct that is correct okay i mean straight from

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the city that's we actually and some of the other matters that i presented with you we actually

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provided and showed that information to the community groups and i think maybe even to

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the zoning board at different times is that correct yes okay and that and you would commit

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to that would you commit to that with a deed restriction as requested by ms brumbelow yes

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okay all right um other than that real quickly anthony because the board is pressed for time

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um and then there are some other people that want to speak or maybe maybe members of the board do

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you have questions for i know mr miles is passionate about what he's doing up here and

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let and he spoke very eloquently to the planning commission or the cdr members um would you like

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to have him speak briefly or would you like to ask that like to ask him some questions i will just i

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just i would just ask that any board member has any questions okay no okay so we can we'll go on

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to the other two or three folks who i believe are waiting online and i just reserved the right to

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call mr raymond or mr miles if i need them to address anything that gets raised by any understood

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people that participate we have charles richardson on the line you are available to speak please

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unmute yourself and testify mr richardson just identify yourself i swore you in earlier today

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so identify yourself for the record okay charles richardson from councilwoman bass's office

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uh anthony or david i had a quick question though i'm looking at the um letter of support that uh

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tayoga united has said and i commend you for reducing the number of units to 50 but did you

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see the sex had you had any consideration for that second piece that they had as far as a

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They were making a request for parking on the block or something like that, for permit parking.

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Had you given that any consideration?

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We had, and actually that came up during our planning commission, the CDC, CDR meeting.

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And Anthony, you spoke well about it.

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It has to do, I mean, there's a couple things.

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First of all, it's just coordinating that and making that happen is probably pretty difficult.

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Providing for the permit parking up in the area.

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So the issue up there could be parking, let's say.

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Whenever I've been up there, there's been an abundance of parking, not an issue.

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But we are introducing, between the other project and this, quite a number of units.

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But that being said, the goal, and Anthony spoke to the CDR about this,

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and you can speak to this real quickly, the goal of both 17, 18 and this project

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is not to have and bring in, people may still have cars,

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and cars may come and go to the, you know, both of the buildings.

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But the whole idea of this project, the whole concept of this project,

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and whether it's, you know, committing to the affordable side

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through a deed restriction as Paula had recommended or requested.

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but anthony speak real quickly as to why we don't think cars will be necessary or there won't be

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that many or why we actually want to discourage david i appreciate that no disrespect there's

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really no way of knowing if that will happen there are projects that start off with that

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same intent then there are cars that come in and there's the opposite of that as far as the

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permit parking was is the question mr richardson are you were you was the councilwoman or and or

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the rco asking for the developer to make the application or pay for the application

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to make the application or pay for the applicant for those parking permits for the other residents

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for those parking permits for the other

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on that block that's what they were doing but i don't know that that's necessarily enforceable as

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as a proviso but then it's it's not like i'm not aware of it and i would bring this up i would

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bring this up as well most i think it would be a different story in terms of that suggestion or

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request if it was if they were owner occupied single family buildings up and down the block

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or the surrounding blocks but they're not they're they're rentals they're multi-family and um so i

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think i understand the idea and again when i've been up there i you know i haven't seen an issue

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with parking but the i think the idea of then coordinating with renters on top of it and i

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I think the idea of who you're trying to benefit,

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longstanding residents versus transient people

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that might, they're running one year

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and then they're gone the next year.

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I just think it's difficult.

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And I don't know that what they're actually thinking

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they want to achieve,

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that condition actually exists here

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in terms of who actually lives within close,

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on this block or within the next several blocks up and down.

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Gotcha.

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Well, with that being said,

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I just wanted to state that the Councilwoman

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has no objection.

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Thank you, Mr. Richardson.

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