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ZBA Hearing - July 28, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 28, 20206h 57m

property line. Okay, thank you. Mr. Sullivan, we have a letter from you to Mr. DiCicco,

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the chair of the board here that we have on the screen, talking about your support.

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If you could just summarize that in a couple sentences, could you explain to the board why

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this is an important project for you? Yes, very quickly. I understand the timing.

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I live in what was once the carriage house for 30 Pelham Road. Both the 30 Pelham and my house

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are on the historic register. And as I said, we share essentially a backyard. I've been looking

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at this deteriorating mansion for five years now. I used to know the prior owners, wonderful people,

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but I've been watching this building fall apart over the last few years, and I know for a fact

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from personal conversations that there were several attempts to sell it in its current

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condition that were unsuccessful. I think this is the closest practical solution to renovating

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a deteriorating property, and that preserves most, if not all, of the character of the

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neighborhood. I think adding those four townhomes makes sense. They fit in with the rest of the

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houses on that street, and they provide obviously some funding to help restore the mansion in an

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appropriate way. And so you're preserving, in my opinion, a beautiful building. You're not having

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minimum impact on the neighborhood, and you're actually adding a plus by creating four new

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townhomes that look like they will be great. And I want to just mention, lastly, that the yard

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that my house faces will be smaller as a result of these changes. But I have to say that even

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with the changes, it's going to be a lovely property. I still have some good views from my

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home. But my biggest interest is making a practical use of that building. Nobody will buy it as a one

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family home and I would hate to see it carved up into six apartments or or even worse as a group

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home or something else that really is not part of of the neighborhood. I think I've thought a lot

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I've had a lot of time to think about this and I really think this is the best possible use of an

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otherwise unusable space. Thank you Mr. Sullivan. Appreciate your time. Steve if you have others

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Would you ask them if something new and different, please?

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Jenna and John Conley, are you on the Zoom chat?

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raise your hand

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Raise your hand.

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i don't see them anybody else okay let's try

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megan

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huff and john gregory mcgan

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hi this is megan huff hey megan um all right so the chair will swear you in good morning miss

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megan i'm sorry your name again miss huff yes sir all right please uh spell your name identify

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yourself with the record name and address sure my name is megan huff m-e-g-a-n-h-u-f-f and i live

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at 6707 Cresham Road which is directly adjacent to the Pelham Road property. Thank you and do you

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swear and affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes sir. Thank you

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please proceed. Megan we have a letter from you to the zoning board that's we're sharing the screen

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can you see it? Yes sir. Okay great can you just in your own words in a few sentences tell the

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board why you feel this property is so important and why you support it well i would say i agree

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completely with no she's getting ready to say is that already in the letter

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i think it is yes because you're having her you know there's no point if she's gonna

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give a testimony read the letter you know we're trying to cut time i think we passed already the

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hour and instead of continuing you want her affirm if that's everything that's stated on

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the letters true and accurate i think we'll save some time you know that that's a helpful

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recommendation miss huff it's not that we don't we don't uh respect your testimony it's just

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we're limited on time you got it i am not offended but i'm definitely a full supporter

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okay thank you thank you all right do we have uh let's see here um paris hall

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Paris, you can unmute yourself and speak

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Okay, next one, Steve

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Okay

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Raymond Tatlow

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Nope

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Let's see

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Here I do have a few other people with a hand up

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I don't know if you want to move forward

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Yes. I'm looking at my text here. Jenna Conley and Chelsea Badeau.

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Hi, this is Chelsea Badeau.

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Good morning. Please identify yourself, name and address, by your name for the stenographer.

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e-h-e-l-s-e-a last name badeau b-a-d-e-a-u address is 607 east mount airy avenue

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19119 you swear and affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do you submitted a letter ma'am she did not uh mr chair okay okay she has a she was the

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the last resident of the Fairlawn Manor. So I wanted her to testify as to why she supports this.

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Yes, I'm the last resident. My family bought the home in 92 and lived there through January 2015.

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We, my parents had 22 children and this was a wonderful home for our very large and, you know,

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unusual sized family. But since that point, as several others have pointed out, this has not

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been uh the sort of home that would work for many single families as they don't exist like ours but

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i fully uh support what ken has laid out i drive by it since i only live a few minutes away

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currently and i absolutely hate seeing the deteriorating state that it's in and i think

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this would restore the house and also work nicely with the neighborhood so i'm in full support

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thank you thank you thank you for your patience thank you for your time

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and i think we have one more mr chair um jenna conley

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i don't see her hand up however chair we do have um about five other people with their hand raised

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it's your call um are these on your list are these folks on your list mr masters

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i don't know who they are mr chair i don't know which ones are raising their hands i'm not able

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to see that tanya could you give us a couple of names and we'll see if they're elaine peter amy

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michael elizabeth they all have their right hands raised raised for testimony um well let's ask if

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anyone is in support there could be some uh neighbors that are not in support so we could

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put them in, they would be testifying at the end, I would imagine. If anyone is also is here for

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supporting us, please unmute and announce yourself. They only get unmuted if I unmute them. Oh, okay.

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Also, Chair, I have Elaine who has been here for a while, if I could allow her to speak.

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Elaine you gonna meet yourself can you hear me yes please testify my name is

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Elaine Hargrave E-L-A-I-N-E H-A-R-G-R-A-V-E and I reside at 36 Carpenter Lane

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I'm a neighbor but not a near neighbor of 30 Pelham and I oppose this

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development. The names on the petition that Mr. Weinstein just showed are not

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necessarily neighbours of the project, they're scattered pretty far afield.

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Between February 26th and March the 3rd,

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some of the neighbours took the initiative

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to circulate a brief survey around the neighbourhood

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regarding the plans for the development of 30 Pelham.

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Neighbours were contacted by email or surveys were hand delivered.

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and the results were collated and presented to the We Man Zoning Committee, but unfortunately

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they chose not to let us present the results at the Zoning Committee hearing.

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The results showed that a resounding majority of neighbours, 80% of the 40 who had completed

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the survey, disagreed or strongly disagreed with the question, I support the construction

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of four new homes on Pelham Road in the rear yard of Fairlawn.

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I've filed a graphic of that result and I've also filed additional comments

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that were made by the 40 neighbours when they completed the survey.

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A common theme running through their comments is that the proposals for two twin homes on the lot

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are far too dense for the space. This viewpoint was vigorously echoed at the Weeman Zoning

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Committee meeting by neighbors. The developer is touting the project as a restoration project.

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However, the 1 to 1.5 million restoration costs that he has quoted are far outweighed by the

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over 4 million that he stands to net from marketing six new homes on the land.

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I also wanted to address the voting at the Weeman Zoning Committee meeting.

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I attended the whole meeting. It was allowed to ramble on for hours. There was no set agenda

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and the developer was given an extended period to speak, largely off topic.

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The voting was shambolic. Raised hands at the end of the meeting were randomly counted in the

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packed room without any thorough checks on whether households were voting singly,

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whether voters were near neighbours, non-near neighbours or indeed neighbours at all.

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The developer was allowed to vote twice. He voted once as a near neighbour, although he does not reside in the property.

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Three committee members voted twice, despite protests from the audience.

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They voted as neighbours and then they voted again within the committee.

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And as it's already been mentioned, several neighbours left the meeting early because it was allowed to overrun substantially.

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So many opinions were not captured at all.

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the votes reported by Ralph Pincus who was not present at the meeting are unreliable and should

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be discounted that's my submission okay we have um thank you thank you

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Peter you can unmute yourself and testify hello hello can you hear me

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yes okay so um I'm pretty much going to back which uh your name and address sir I'm sorry

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My name is Peter Sioum, P-E-T-E-R, last name S-Y-O-U-M.

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I live at 22 Westview, which is right around the corner from the property.

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thank you do you swear and affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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Thank you.

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Do you swear and affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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i do thank you oh chair we also have a amy amy you have been allowed to speak you may testify

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I do.

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Thank you.

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oh wait should i go yes i'm here should i speak yeah i think we got ahead of ourselves yes peter

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please okay uh i'll be very quick um i i've um am against uh the the the the building the moving on

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with the uh uh what the developers um of the property want i um totally agree with uh the

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previous speaker um i do not believe that the neighborhood is um as the developer is saying

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is in support um i was at that meeting um which occurred in march and as she said it um it was

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it was a shamble of a voting process the um many people spoke against it the people who spoke for

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it were um primarily connected financially um the developers voted um it was a it was a sham in a

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lot of ways i um ultimately um at the very least and i've been not in on the whole meeting at the

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very least there should be another vote a lot of the property um the plans that have been redone

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the none of the the neighbors who are who are at the meeting have seen any of those things

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um as far as uh like the democratic idea of whether the zoning board should help the developers make

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a profit with these four other homes um i don't believe that's the that that is the goal and the

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point of the zoning board um it should not be that we're here to make developers money

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um absolutely correct uh i i that's all i needed to say thank you very much

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uh chair um i would like to mention as a few others but we at the 1203 mark

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uh so it is your call that's been over an hour yeah um maybe we can ask those who have not yet

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spoke given their opinion to put something in writing and address it to

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you to Tonya yes sure why don't you give them there the information yeah provide

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them with the information so they can mail you or email you whatever yes but

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you put emails on the chat for the RCO box please thank you

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any more questions from the board no planning commission

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hold on for just one second

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i lost my recommendation this property is indicated for residential use on the comprehensive plan

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the applicant is proposing new lots that need an excessive amount of variances including most

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setbacks and open space additionally they do not without showing showing a signed plan they do not

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meet the requirements of the whishikin watershed or steep slope and we ask the applicant in a

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meeting to reduce to three new homes to reduce the variances during the plan review process

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and they have not considered that today accordingly we feel that the application is proposing an

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overuse of the property. Sharon, we're going to hold this case for 30 days until August the 26th,

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but Sharon, I need some help from you. Is there anything else I needed to put on the record?

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no just that the um hearing on august 26th will be a limited hearing only to give

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any community member who feels they were not given an opportunity to voice their position

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to testify

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mr masters yes all right so we're going to hold this until august the 26th at 9 30 a.m

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calendar number 39887

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30 Pelham Road

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being held

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until August 26th

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at 9.30 a.m.

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In between, I would suggest

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that you and on behalf of your clients

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reach out to the Councilwoman's office

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and whomever

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else you need at the Mount Airy

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Civic Association

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so that

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hopefully

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we'll be able to resolve this issue

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of the count and who was at the meeting who shouldn't have been there whatever we got some

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work cut out for you yes we did thank you so much calendar number

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Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman.

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Calendar number 39889-423.

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Hold on, Professor.

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Professor, can we call up?

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I'm going to burn a little bit out of order.

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I believe it's calendar number 38167, 307 Friendship Street.

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And this is the appeal that was mistakenly identified as continued.

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It was not.

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Okay.

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thank you so will the participants in the 307 friendship street please uh sign on

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the um the appellant here is pro se she's not represented by an attorney

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wow wasn't too happy with that hello hello good morning or good afternoon i should

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say sorry name and address ma'am and please spell your name for the stenographer yes it's diane d-i-a-n-e

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rodriguez r-o-d-r-i-g-u-e-z your address 307 friendship street philadelphia pennsylvania

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19111 do you swear to firm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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yes thank you please proceed um i don't know how to share my screen because i don't have that option

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okay well walk us through it hopefully we'll be able to figure out what it is okay so the

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first attachment that i sent is the closing document with my name on it diane j rodriguez

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with my address uh the second attachment is the picture of my home and the problem is that i don't

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i can't park my cars on the side lawn and i have my cars parked there so there's a picture of that

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Diane, if you can hold one minute, I'm going to promote you to panelists.

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And once you return, you can share your screen.

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Now you should be capable of sharing your screens.

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Okay, thank you.

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Okay, all right.

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Okay, can everyone see my screen?

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