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ZBA Hearing - May 21, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 21, 20255h 4m

we originally were seeking to do five units.

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And based on community input,

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they wanted us to have four units.

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We removed the roof deck to the property, and we added one parking spot.

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So there was a garage there that had a curb cut, which is existing.

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They wanted us to leverage that garage to have off-street parking.

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All was, you know, again, we have authorization from the L&I and the ZBA to have those revised plans as well.

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So, again, you'll see I have 13 exhibits up here.

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Now our screen is being shared.

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We met with the community on April 16th.

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We notified 100 addresses of there.

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In addition to what you're seeing, we have the deed to the property showing that Gregory and Teresa, his wife, own the property.

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The Certificate of Tax Clearance and proof of the mailing notice.

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Again, Bridesburg, as the chairman stated, there was significant unanimous support.

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I believe it was 16 to 0.

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We do have revised plans where we would ask that if the board grants this variance request, that they do it by way of proviso with one sheet of revised plans.

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If you look, whoever's controlling the screen, I think it's Alex.

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Can you just go to –

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Alex's not doing it.

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Oh, no.

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I don't know.

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Ian's in the background.

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Oh, Ian's in the background.

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I'm sure someone wants to see, like, the amended plan.

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So if you can go to Exhibit 9.

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Oh, you want you want to see photographs, too?

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All right. Let's go. Let's go. Sorry, Ian.

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If you can do that, put the photographs in there.

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Starting at seven. Perfect. Thank you.

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So again, this is East Thompson Street from East Thompson Street.

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And as you can see, it's an existing building structure.

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This is from Ash Street. We're not changing the building footprint or any of the massing at all.

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Continuing, I'm sorry, to the right of the property on East Thompson Street, to, I should say, to left of the property on East Thompson Street, Ash Street to the right of the property, Ash Street, well, I should say, to left of the property.

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Again, we just gave an example of nearby multifamily, which is an RSA 5 property as well.

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These were our original plans.

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I think we could skip over.

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Again, we were originally five units.

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We had a roof deck there, and we had no parking.

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so based on the community comment we went down to four units and everything's on that front page

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this their site plan actually had uh floor plans as well but if you can see uh like that top

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and i it's like the top left floor plan that's the first floor of the property um so it's in pink

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yes perfect it's in pink and in yellow and you can see there's direct access for those those first

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four units. There's no basement living. So you have unit number one, which is a one bedroom,

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one bath. And then you have unit number two, which is a two bedroom, one bath. And to the

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left of that, you see the parking spot. Behind the parking spot is where we're going to store

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the trash as well. And we are in agreement for commercial trash pickup as a proviso as well.

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If you go to the second floor, which is somewhere in this thing, second floor, perfect. Thanks,

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Ian. You can see unit number three, it's just on its own floor, right? And that's a two-bedroom,

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one-bath. And then unit four is a bi-level. So first, on the second floor, we have the living

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room and the kitchen area. And then if you go up a flight of steps to the third floor,

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it's probably down to the left, Ian. Thank you. Is it? Oh, there it is. It's just, again,

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And two additional bedrooms and a bath.

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So pretty straightforward.

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Again, not out of character for this property to have non-RSA5 use.

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Not out of character nearby.

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It's a corner property.

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And we're leveraging a parking spot to help the community as well.

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And it was significant community support.

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With that being said, I would just ask that Mr. Walton gets sworn in.

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With that being said, I would just ask that Mr. Walton get sworn in, and I have a few questions for him.

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And I have a few questions.

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Sir, could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer?

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Do me a favor.

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Come forward and make sure that's on.

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Is that on?

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No, no, no.

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Click the button.

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Hit the green button.

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That's it.

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You're on.

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Gregory Walton, G-R-E-G-O-R-Y-W-A-L-T-O-N.

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All right.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Yes, Greg, you heard everything I had to state today about your zoning matter.

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Yes.

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Is it true and correct?

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Yes.

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And do you adopt it as your own testimony?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board.

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I have a question about the parking.

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So from the images, it looks like there is sort of a paved area in front of the parking that sort of uses a driveway.

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Is that enough space to fit in an additional car?

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Or is it only in the garage?

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so it looks like it's 32 feet like based on what i'm saying yeah which would mean you i don't think

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i don't think yeah i mean 12 and 20 so i don't think that would be sufficient to fit you know

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an additional car that's not the attention and then um where will all of the meters be for each

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of the individual units um i well so i helping my client here i i would think that we always try to

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push it into the basement the lower level um it's safer it's secure um there's no living down there

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so it makes sense to do down there but we also don't control where the utility meters go i mean

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but we try to push it that way but so the idea would be to put as many things into the basement

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as as possible and then they can all access it from that central stairway right yeah all the

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the tenants accessing the basement i don't think it's correct me if i'm wrong greg but i don't

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think it's the intention for the tenants to have full access so if there's an issue obviously then

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you know my client as the property owner would be dealing with it but i don't think it's an

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intention for them for the tenants to be down there it's just for mechanical uh mechanicals

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down there only and then is there any other use that you're intending to have in the basement

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even from like a property management standpoint just because the plan is selling a lot of

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separate rooms office or anything no i don't do that okay

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all the questions from the board i see a number of violations um can you tell us about those

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yeah so my client uh was starting to do some of just the prep work for this matter

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um he thought he could do it that way um once we discovered that it was probably best to wait

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for zoning and that's what we have done but he wasn't trying to build to like to create anything

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but to like prep it's an older building that's in desperate need of some tlc

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so what percentage of the building you say he completed without permits um i don't know if he

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plea without permits but i think it was just demolition work like prep work to like the

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interior demolition cleaning up the property once you got a a violation i said stop let's just focus

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on this process get that done and do everything at once okay questions or comments from our attorney

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um just briefly just wanted to clarify for the record mr knockinson this is a new application

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right it wasn't amended down from five units to four correct that that is my understanding that

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we have a whole nother application we we got streets approval for the parking and everything

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else okay okay great and then um and then the only changes to the revised plans had to do with the

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addition of the floor plans there were no changes to the envelope of the building or anything like

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that yeah we saw that there was a mistake on the floor plans i don't know if it was like the old

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floor plans when it was five units on it so we just figured the zba would stamp it because that

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was whatever was submitted for the second application is incorrect in terms of the

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floor plan so we just wanted to make sure that that was cleaned up so yeah so we we can't stamp

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the floor plans because those aren't reviewed at the zoning stage so we actually don't as long as

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there's no change to the envelope of the building size of the parking space curb cut then we don't

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need to stamp any plans yeah i don't believe so i believe everything's the same okay great thank you

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Questions or comments from the audience or the virtual audience?

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I do not see any hands raised, Mr. Chair.

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Planning Commission.

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Amy Boyd with the Planning Commission, A-M-Y-B-O-Y-D.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth to hold you with nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed.

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The comprehensive plan recommends a change in zoning at this location from the existing RSA-5 residential single family to CMX-2 commercial mixed use.

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under the proposed designation four units would be allowed by right but the off-street parking

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would not while the property previously had a garage and the curb cut the planning commission

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The Planning Commission recommends that the board grant their request of variance for multifamily and off-street parking.

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recommends that the board grant the request of variance for multifamily and off-street park

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Thank you.

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Hillary, it's just revised plans, one page, nothing?

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There's no need to add revised plans, and I believe Mr. Roxton indicated they were willing to consider commercial trash pickup if the board wanted to consider that.

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So MI 2025, 000540, 4652 East Thompson Street, I vote yes, Proviso, commercial trash pickup.

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John, my vote is yes, with Proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes, with Proviso.

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Senator Graham, my vote is yes, with Proviso.

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Iowan, my vote is yes, with Proviso.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes, with Proviso.

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Thank you.

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Alan, we have one more case of yours.

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All right. Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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So MI 2025, 000-597, 4217-19 Languister Avenue.

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Alan Nockamson is the attorney.

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Alan, just for the record, state your name.

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Yes, Alan Nockamson.

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You've already been sworn.

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Could you identify your client, the relationship to the property?

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Yeah, my client is BQ Lancaster Avenue LLC, the owner of the property,

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and the virtual audience is nasha bunch and our vice chair has a few questions good afternoon

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council do you agree to weigh the reading of the refusal or stipulate to its accuracy

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i do have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits that's needed and

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required to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing yes we have thank you

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council please proceed uh again i don't have um the benefit now i do have internet access but by

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up to you see if we get one moment chair i'll be pulling that up short he's doing it now all right

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i'll just give you some highlights we have 12 exhibits in our exhibit packet we had a community

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meeting on april 14th with hope administered by hope phl uh 133 addresses were notified of that

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meeting. We're a unique corner at the corner of Lancaster, Brooklyn, and Brown. This matter has

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been in front of the zoning board before. The reason why we're back here is we're really not

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changing anything. My client just ran out of time. They submitted for a building permit application

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and their zoning permit lapsed because of the amount of time it took them to get through this

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process. So now they have to go through this process again. But again, what we're trying to

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do here is have uh six residential units an event planning space as well as a prepared food shop

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so if you just go to the uh next thanks again so we um amended our plans we did some cleanup work

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here as well um but those plans are amended um we have the letter of support in three

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number four is the zoning permit shows like the same use um i think there was like a slight change

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for one of the commercial uses but pretty much the same again it's a regular shaped lot we have

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three refusals the first is cmx where cmx2 property where five units would be allowed as

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of right we're seeking to have added six the z before the zba before it didn't have an issue

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with that the second refusal it actually is a referral is because the prepared food shop

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in the alternative we we're probably going to my client's looking to put a coffee shop in there

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she may want to do eventually cooking there but not now so she's trying to put it the use as a

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takeout restaurant as well because it's cmx2 that's a referral which is conditionally approved

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again my clients are responsible operator her family uh the bunch family is well known in the

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west philly area they've had other businesses nearby um and they're very well respected

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they're a responsible operator the third refusal has to do uh with the maximum occupied area

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where we're running afoul of the 80% requirement.

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But again, same thing as last time.

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We have an irregular shaped lot

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and it's really difficult to put a functional floor plan there.

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So if we can just go to the photos, Ian, on 7.

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So this is our property that we're going to hopefully demolish

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and build a beautiful property that you see.

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But it's just Lancaster from Brooklyn Street, our orange notice posters from the three streets.

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And then Lancaster to the right of the property is a commercial corridor to the left of the property with a trolley line.

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Brooklyn Street to the right of the property and to the left of the property.

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And then I think we have, those are our plans, if you can just pull them up, Ian.

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Those are our plans, if you can just pull them up in.

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So again, a very handsome

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So, again, a very handsome building structure, brick facade, a lot of openings for the residential units.

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There's no living in the basement, so the commercial units are first floor and lower level.

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The residential units are above.

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And then, again, you can see this is the irregular shape here, but that's all the commercial units.

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So the bigger one to the right is where the event planning space is.

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