We're just going to allow the attendees to enter the room.
Okay, Chair, we have 65, excuse me, 65 attendees, you can proceed as you wish.
Good morning, everyone.
My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing this morning's DBA hearings.
With me is our Vice Chair, Ismail Shahid, our Board Member James Hallman, and our Board
member, James Snell. Present, Mr. Chairman. Also present is our attorney, Hillary Emerson,
and our executive director, Tanya Sunken. Here's our virtual format. The proceedings are being
recorded. With your participation, you agree to be recorded. The video will be available by
contacting Tanya Sunken at philip.gov. For a court stenographer, attorneys and witnesses will
identify themselves before testify. If you're participating by phone, press star nine to raise
your hand and star six to unmute. To enter an appearance statement, call 267-270-5548. Leave
your email address and the property, the address of the property in question. And finally, the
question box on the screen is not for comments or testimony. All comments should be directed
to our executive director, Tanya Sunkett.
Let's look at our schedule for this morning.
Number eight, MI 2023-007-155-2401 Aramingo Avenue.
That case is being continued.
Number 9, MI 2023, 007-157-832 Bridge Street, that case is continued.
Number 10, MI 2023, 007-092-789 South 2nd Street, that case is continued.
And number 14, MI-2023-007-101-2225 St. Albion Street, that case is being continued.
Are there any other requests for continuances in the audience?
Good morning, Chair. This is Doreen Blakely, and I will be your co-host today.
Thank you.
There are no hands.
Okay, thank you.
And number seven, MI-2023-007-207-2222 North 16th Street.
We have no exhibits for this.
This is the first listing.
Harry Cooper is the listed owner, and Ambrou Chakwan is the listed applicant, third-party professional.
I see no hands, Chair.
So number seven, MI 2023, 007207, 2222 North 16th Street.
This case is continued.
Mark must be heard.
And number 13, MI 2023, 007132, 58 West Pomona Street.
Para Keo is the attorney.
There's no exhibits.
This is the first listing.
chair there are two hands raised the first one is nor re-hands the first one is norman cooper
okay not allowed to speak um excuse me miss blakey um could we have i see tara cow has her hand raised
could we have her speak first thank you so much sure thank you
good morning counsel good morning hi could you please state your name and spell for the court
uh yes my name is tara ko first name t-a-r-a last name k-a-o do you swear or affirm to tell
the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes counsel this is the first listing
we do not have exhibits for this case um exhibits i i sent them i did send them um
So you're saying nobody received it?
so you're saying nobody received it yes
Oh, I sent them.
I didn't receive them.
I sent it last week.
I'm also going to go through.
I apologize.
All right.
So this is the first listing.
we don't have the exhibits if you have any issues please call the office and what we're going to do
is we're going to continue this okay oh my god i i apologize that's okay that's okay that's okay
yeah all right so mi 2023 007 132 58 west pomona street cases continue mark must be heard
thank you for calling in council oh okay thank you so much okay um
we're going to go to our add-on list excuse me mr chair there are a couple other
um individuals that wish to speak it may be related to this case but i'm not totally clear
okay yeah yes chair um i do still see norman cooper all right mr cooper please identify
yourself yeah how you doing good morning mr cooper could you state your name and spell for
the court stenographer? N-O-R-M-A-N-C-O-O-P-E-R. Right. Do you swear or firm to tell the truth,
the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. Are you here in reference to Pomona Street?
I'm in reference to 222 North 16th Street. Okay, hold on a minute.
that's number seven mr chair we continue that must be heard so so uh we we've continued that
case sir and we've marked the next time it's it's brought in here it must be heard
you continued it because you said you didn't have the exhibits we do not have the exhibits
and when we called the case sir um nobody raised their hand at that time are you are you related
to well you have your hand raised now but not at the time when we called the case um are you
related to harry cooper the listed owner myself and harry cooper are the owners okay okay well
yes we don't have exhibits and the case has to be continued you'll be notified sir
thank you is there any other hands up yes pomona cherokee civic council will be allowed to speak
good morning could you please state your name
spell for the court stenographer
seems like they disappeared chair
okay all right so
there is another hand
Stephanie Vogel will be allowed to speak
good morning could you please state your name and spell for the court sonographer
stephanie she disappeared too and okay all right so seem to come up and just
so just show everyone's clear mi2023 007 13258 west pomona street the case has been continued
is marked must be heard.
Thank you.
Okay, so we're going to go to our add-on list.
MI 2022-004-553-9855-89 Busselton Avenue.
This is a revote.
Myself, Ishmael, and James Snell will be voting. I vote yes, with proviso. Use limited to 9859 Busselton Avenue and commercial trash pickup.
My vote is yes, with proviso.
Ishmael?
Chair, are you calling me?
You're going in and out.
Yeah, yeah, I did call you, sir.
Yeah, I was in a dry spot.
Okay, so you're voting on 9859 Busselton Avenue.
98 59 Busselton Avenue. The vote is yes, but the use limited proviso use limited to 98 59 Busselton
The vote is yes.
Avenue and commercial trash pickup. Ishmael Shahid, my vote is yes with proviso. Thank you.
We're going to start with number four, MI 2023-002-377-2655 South Hutchison Street.
We do have an interpreter for this case.
The owner applicants pro se are Ming Hong and Chow Cheng.
Interpreter.
The interpreter, can you please raise your virtual hand?
There it is.
I only see a hand up with the name Street Donna.
Would that be done?
I don't think that's the interpreter.
So I believe April Zhang is the interpreter.
We're looking for the Mandarin interpreter.
You're the Mandarin interpreter.
Could you please raise your hand?
I see you, Hillary.
They have been promoted.
Good morning.
Morning, interpreter.
April Zane, please unmute yourself.
You're free to speak.
Yes, this is the interpreter.
Good morning.
Could you state your name and spell for the court stenographer?
April Zane, A-P-R-I-L, last name Z-H-A-N-G.
Right. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth is nothing but the truth?
Yes, I do.
I am calling case 2655 South Hutchison.
The owners are Ming Hong and Chao Cheng.
你好,你是 Ming Hong, Chao Cheng,你在吗?
是你的房子的地址是不是2055 South Hutchison这里啊?
i do excuse me i do not see anyone with their hand raised by those names
perhaps let's let's see yeah let's see if miss streets street um
they have been promoted
Good morning.
Interpreter, could you please tell them to state their name and spell it, if possible, for the court stenographer?
Mr. Chair, I see the other individual disappeared, but I do see Sam Zhu with his hand raised.
I believe he may have the applicant.
Yeah, I agree.
He's the expediter for this case.
Thank you.
Sam Su has been promoted also.
Sam, do you have the applicants with you?
I'm trying to promote Sam Su.
Can someone else try, please?
It seems like it's not working.
Hello?
Mr. Zhu, do you have the two individuals with you?
No, they are not with me right now, but I'm sure they are trying to...
Okay, all right. Thank you.
Interpreter, could you please call 2655 South Hutchinson again for Ming Hu, Ming Hong, and Chai O Cheng, please?
I do not see them in the audience
I'm looking
they're not in the audience okay um you're not in the audience here hillary what i'm hillary
what i'm going to do is i'm going to hold this just for a case or so and then come back to it
because i don't want to tie the interpreter up all day if they're not here okay so interpreter
i'm going to find mr chair here here one or two other cases then i'll come back so please stay
with us, okay? Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Okay. So number 16.
MI 2022-004-261-2807 Nightingale Road. Donna Caristo is the owner applicant.
There's a recommendation of support from the Normandy Civic Association.
Donna Caristo.
Donna Caristo has been promoted.
Good morning.
Could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer?
I'm muted.
I'm muted.
Let me try again.
Donna Caristo.
D-O-N-N-A-C-A-R-I-S-T-O.
Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?
Would you please turn on your video?
Turn the video on?
How do we do that?
Oh, boy.
I was just enjoying the panel, and we already did that.
We're trying to figure out how to turn the video on.
I'm sorry, Chair. You guys have to accept to join as a panelist.
Okay. There we are.
All right. Start my video. There you go.
There we go.
Okay. So, so Donna, you're the one who's going to testify, okay?
Yes. All right. So this application is for the legalization of a conversion of a shed into an addition at the rear side of an existing detached structure for no change in use from single family household living size and location as shown in the application plans.
No change in height of the existing structure. Whereas the 10 foot side yard setback is required in the RSAD 3 zoning district and no side yard setback was provided. Our vice chair has a few questions for you, Donna.
okay good morning have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits that
is needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing
uh do we have them do we have so no donna you said you sent all the documents in right yes
yes all right all right please please proceed and then share your screen please
please do it i don't know share your screen it's at the bottom green screen he said yeah because
you want to have put all your documents up now okay yes thank you
which one would it be in the green button on the bottom yes i clicked that and then it asked me