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Thank you very much. Thank you all for your testimony. The next panel will have Mr. Larry Amilof and Mr. Peter Frank. (Witnesses come forward.)
Let me state for the record that Dr. Judith Gaye, Chief Academic Officer of Community College, submitted her testimony; she was here but had to leave. Thank you. Good afternoon.
Peter Franks. I'm the Associate Vice provost at Drexel University. I'm delighted to have this opportunity to provide my statement in support of the Philadelphia internship 91 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. " In my capacity at Drexel University, I have the responsibility for the University's cooperative education and career service programs. Annually, Drexel University places some 4500 undergraduate students and 300 graduate students in cooperative- education jobs with real responsibilities for their employing organizations. These college students are working full-time for periods of six months and earning wages and paying taxes to the City of Philadelphia and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Some 84 percent are working these co-op jobs in the Delaware Valley, with a significant number of these students, about 1800 annually, working within the City of Philadelphia. Our estimates are that in total, these students are earning about 92 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. 4 million in taxes paid in City wage taxes. The remaining percent of 6 these Drexel University co-op students 7 annually are working in 29 states and 23 8 countries throughout the world. These 9 real-world experiences provide an 10 enhancement to the students' education in 11 the classroom. They have an opportunity 12 to see how the theories they learn from 13 our faculty are applied and the relevance 14 of the knowledge that they learn from 15 their job-work experience to their lives 16 after they graduate. Additionally, they learn from these experiences about career planning, how to interview for jobs, how to write a meaningful résumé and cover letter, and other valuable lifelong skills on successful job searches. For the 1500 employing organizations that hire these students, they have the opportunity to have real 93 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 projects completed at a reduced cost to the company, while participating in trial employment to see if these students are employees they may wish to hire upon graduation. And we know that 50 percent will offer a full-time job to these students upon graduation and that between one-third and 45 percent will accept a full-time job with a former co-op employer. I have spent my professional life working in universities and heading a national and international organization related to internships. All of these experiences have been related to advancing the field of experiential learning for university students; that is, learning through actual work experience. The ordinance which you are considering today, and which was introduced by Councilman Jones, has my full support. A similar law has existed for several years in the province of 94 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 Ontario, Canada. And I understand from my colleagues that universities there that offer similar programs to Drexel's co-op program, that this ordinance in Ontario, Canada, has encouraged many local employers to hire both high school intern students and university co-op students. As a member of the Philadelphia Workforce Investment Board, I have learned firsthand about the extremely high unemployment rate among high school youth in the City and the efforts which the Philadelphia Workforce Investment Board, the City, and others are making to provide employment for these young people. Providing an incentive such as the Philadelphia internship tax credit for employing organizations to hire high school or post-secondary youth in intern programs would have a positive effect upon employers to consider more seriously utilizing interns to provide a source for 95 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 their human-resource needs. Most importantly, the young people would learn the value of productive work experiences, gain valuable work experience, which would help them find employment as they mature, and perhaps, most importantly, help them make decisions on careers they may wish to pursue in the future.
Thank you for inviting me to testify, and I'd be pleased to answer any questions you may have.
I'm Larry Amilof. I'm the Executive Director of Career and Technical Education for the School District of Philadelphia. And I invited...
Good afternoon. My name is Michelle Armstrong. I'm the 96 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 Assistant Director for Career and Technical Education for the School District of Philadelphia.
And we are both testifying in support of the Philadelphia internship tax credit. I'd like to thank Councilman Jones's office for bringing this up, and we had the opportunity to meet with members of his staff. We envision these school- related, paid, learning experiences that will provide our students with opportunities to apply what they have learned in their academic classes to real-life work situations. Our office has managed the District's 700-student summer jobs program in cooperation with the Philadelphia Youth Network. As Stacy mentioned, it's a lot easier to have them work as the intermediary and provide them with the resources, have our staff develop jobs for the students, and work 97 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 cooperatively and collaboratively. We've been doing this, as I said, since I became the executive director, in 2005. In talking to Morgan Cephas of Councilman Jones' office, we saw this as an opportunity for seniors. We changed our graduation requirements such that students are fully engaged in both academic and career and technology education to graduate. And we are providing copies of the high school directory, which has our graduation requirements and something that Miss Armstrong developed, which is the Middle School Guide to High School, to help students make informed high school choices. We saw this as an opportunity for students who are maintaining high grades in both the academic and career technical education to go out into the workforce in jobs that are related to what they're learning. We saw this as a way of seeing how what they've learned in 98 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 school actually does translate to the world of work. We also are very concerned about students' safety, and we'd be very willing to do all of the employment certifications and clearances that are required of any other kinds of jobs. We are very willing to assign a member of our staff to be the point person for this initiative, whether it be through the (indiscernible) or directly through the City. A member of our staff would serve as the point of contact. We also feel to make knees meaningful, that the students should have a work plan of what they're expecting to learn, that we have a way of assessing what they've learned, evaluating their performances. And successful participation should become an important part of their transcript, just like whatever other studies they've had in high school. As I said, I've provided the two handouts that are here. 99 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 And we're open to any questions, and we really would like to make this a very successful venture for our students. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much for your testimony. Any questions? (No questions.) Thank you. I think we're just absorbing all of the information. And thank you for taking the time to come out.
The next panel will be Steve Bradley, Nicole Giles Sharon Barrett, Leonard Bentley. (Witnesses come forward.)
Good afternoon. Would you please state your name for the record and present your testimony.
My name's Nicole 100 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 Giles, and I'm with the African-American Chamber of Commerce, and I'm here today to express our support of the Philadelphia internship tax credit and also to acknowledge the written testimony that was submitted by the Greater Philadelphia Chamber of Commerce. I'm also in support of this amendment, which provides tax relief for businesses who engage high school and college students in internship opportunities. This is particularly important for the African-American-owned and -invested businesses, because in addition to the natural mentoring that will occur, this also allows the businesses to augment staffing needs without adversely affecting payroll. And incentivizing African-American-owned businesses in particular will create more internship opportunity for students of color than do the mainstream opportunities in general. 101 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 From the student's perspective, this initiative not only introduces young people to business opportunities and new career paths; it also exposes them to workplace realities, providing a direct connection between what is learned in the classroom and the real-world application of that knowledge. Furthermore, internships in this Web 2.0 world often developed into a reverse mentorship situation, whereby the business owner can learn about operational efficiencies from the student. The wired generation intuitively understand online application and social-medial platforms. So whereas, in the past, the internship experience has primarily been mentor-to-mentee, we are fortunate to live in an era where this can be a fully reciprocal arrangement. This has been the basis of a new program we plan to launch at the 102 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 African-American Chamber of Commerce. Taking into account the skills of the intern, while helping the business owner identify his or her staffing needs, will ensure both intern and mentor maximize the opportunity to work together. This amendment will only strengthen the appeal of such a program because we, the Chamber, can also help the business owner to take advantage of new tax relief benefits while fulfilling the true responsibility of all business owners and professionals to give back and help develop the future workforce. And, finally, I will state that I am a product of reverse brain drain. I had an internship at WHYY in 1997 and then decided to move to Philadelphia in 2001. And so, I am in full support of internship opportunities in general.
Well, thank you very much. And we're glad to have you here in Philadelphia and appreciate the work you're doing with the 103 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 African-American Chamber.
Good afternoon. My name is Steven Scott Bradley, and I am President and CEO of Bradley & Bradley. Also, I'm a board member of the African-American Chamber of Commerce. I'm testifying today in support of the Philadelphia internship tax credit. I think this tax credit allows small businesses like Bradley & Bradley to provide opportunities for local students. It gives us a tax incentive to participate and help lower the overhead that's involved. Internships are very important to the students, both high school and college, and this allows them to have exposure of what it's like to be inside of a corporation and allows them the opportunity to see what it is to be an entrepreneur. Businesses develop new 104 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 resources from young people, and I think this tax incentive will allow more corporations in this tough economy to participate. I'm a product of a internship program called Inroads, and that's how I was introduced to insurance almost 9 years. Unfortunately, due to the 10 sluggish economy Inroads is no longer 11 viable in Philadelphia, as it once was. 12 But, again, this Philadelphia internship 13 tax credit will allow the small 14 businesses like Bradley & Bradley to 15 allow these opportunities to be 16 available. 17 Bradley & Bradley has been in 18 business over ten years, and we have 19 worked with several different internship 20 programs with the School District, with 21 GPUAC, and with Philadelphia Youth 22 Network. So I stand in support of the 23 Philadelphia tax credit program. 24 Thank you very much. 25
Thank you 105 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 very much for your testimony. Next?
Good afternoon. My name is Sharon Barrett. I represent Lincoln Technical Institute. We're a post-secondary school and we teach automotive technology. Lincoln Tech's been located in Philadelphia for the past 48 years, and we have a very large student body of recent high school graduated. The majority of our students are from the Philadelphia inner-city area. I am the career services director there, and I am responsible for assisting students in (indiscernible) and finding internship employment in their field of study. This task becomes more and more difficult with each passing day. Many companies are not sensitive to the fact that while they're full-time students and are only available to work minimal hours; they're not to interfere with their 106 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 schoolwork. Our students are entry-level; many have never worked before. The mission of Lincoln is to offer the best educational training to enable our students graduate to take to the marketplace the highest possible level of job knowledge and skills, enabling them to become productive citizens. This internship, while fulfilling academic requirements, also teaches responsibility, punctuality, the importance of team work, and it enforces the social skills that so many of our students need to become productive citizens. This tax credit is also an incentive for the companies involved to help not only themselves but also the students. In Philadelphia, the automotive industry has had a large impact. Even though the economy has had a downturn, for the most part, the automotive field 107 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 continued to hire throughout. People in the area are holding on to their cars longer. The average was six years; now we are seeing ten to twelve years, which means more maintenance, which means more job security. I have also seen an increase in the number of private shops, parts stores and machine shops continuing to hire. Our interns at our school are placed in dealerships, private shops, parts stores, automotive chain stores, automotive remanufacturing companies. This bill, we feel, will encourage more and more automotive and auto-related companies to intern our students. I feel that it will give more and more of our students opportunities. Our school trains in the field of automotive technology. They are trained on each aspect of a car, from changing oil to tearing down and rebuilding an engine. We also offer an associate's 108 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 degree, where our students come out with an associate's degree in specialized technology. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity me to testify here.
Thank you for taking your time out to come to testify. Mr. Bentley?
Good afternoon. My name is Leonard Bentley. I'm also a director of career services at Lincoln Technical Institute. I'm on the allied health information technology side of our school. We're located at 3600 Market Street, and we service pretty much the Philadelphia inner-city area, where most of our graduates come to our school without any work experience, or they're switching career fields. But the majority of our students come with no work experience or any know-how of how to get a job or ever 109 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 been in a work setting. So internships would be very important to us to give our students a chance to step into a work opportunity and see how it is on the job, training. We do offer a externship program right now for our medical students, where they're not paid. So right now, this is perfect because we're stepping into a situation where we're trying to get paid internships instead of our externships because a large majority of our students that come to our school live below the poverty level, so it's hard for them to take on 180 hours of free work when they have a kid at home or they don't have even car fare to get to school. So offering a paid internship to our students would definitely enhance them and also keep them in school longer because, again, sometimes they have to leave school because they cannot complete because of lack of transportation or even 110 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 lack of lunch money to be on the job. So I think this tax credit would be a great incentive to us to offer some of these smaller businesses such as doctor's offices, an incentive to actually pay, you know, some of our externs and give them more of an opportunity to graduate and complete school. We set up an internship with Penn State University back in 2004 to present. And our school actually works with Steve Hayes, who is actually the associate director of their human resource department. They were having a problem with having minorities working in the information technology department at Penn State, so we were able to partner up a program where our information technology graduates go up and work at Penn State University for eight weeks that's paid. They pay for their housing and also pay are for their meals inside of the 111 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 cafeteria. That program has -- it's been -- since 2004, of our students 5 have participated in a eight-week 6 program, and all 18 students who have 7 came back from that program were 8 gainfully employed in the IT sector. 9 So that internship is very key 10 to us. Again, it gives them an 11 opportunity to be paid as well as 12 learning while they're working on the 13 job. 14 And I think that we could 15 probably set up more programs in the City 16 of Philadelphia if the money is available 17 to offer some incentive for them to do 18 so. This Penn State program is actually funded through the State. So, you know, that's why it's been able to keep going for the last six years. And we actually have three of our students starting work on their internship actually on June 10th of this 112 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 year. So it's been another successful year of getting the funding for that program. So, again, I thank you for letting me speak on this bill. I think it's very instrumental and important to our Philadelphia city and our youth, as well as our adults who are looking for work or looking for the opportunity to change careers. I think this is really something that's meaningful to everybody. So I really thank you for having me speak here today.
Well, we thank you for taking the time to come out. And certainly, we learn from the testimony that our witnesses provide; it's informative for us, too. Thank you all very much. Any questions or comments? (No questions or comments.)
The next 113 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 panel: Theo Thompson, India Jones, Daniel Horowitz, Kate Puccio. (Witnesses come forward.)
Would you please state your name for the record and begin your testimony.
I guess I'll be going first today. Good afternoon, Madam Chair. My name is Dan Horowitz. I'm here as the first intern for Councilman Jones. I guess that was about two-and-a-half years ago. Since then, I've become a 114 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 litigator. I graduated from law school, and I also still -- I volunteer, I serve with the alumni advisory board with the City of Philadelphia. My position here with Councilman Jones in regards to this ordinance is fairly unique because I was the first intern that he had. And I also, prior to being an intern, managed an intern program at People's Emergency Center that Councilwoman Blackwell is very familiar with. I think it's really important here because interns, in a very qualitative sense, have a way to bring a lot of energy and ideas to wherever they work. They really help out and increase the productivity of whatever organization or business that they're working with. My experience with having interns at PEC was that we were able to accomplish different things, have policy papers written, serve our clients in a way that we couldn't have before. And 115 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 quantitatively, it was -- I'm sure it was thousands of dollars of volunteer work. And then, when they were done -- these were students who may not have stayed in Philly. We hired -- we created two positions to accommodate these -- two of the interns that we had. And I thought that was something really special, to provide an opportunity for these individuals; and also, at the same time, serve citizens of Philadelphia. My internship with Councilman Jones really started with his first day at Council -- actually, it was my first day working with Councilman Jones. And it was really a special experience. I mean, seeing him -- I mean, he was -- he was a little nervous; it was his first day too, and I was nervous. But he provided an opportunity for me that I -- was really something extraordinary. I got to work on bills, I got to work on different policy initiatives. 116 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 And the greatest professional thing that has occurred to me yet that I can tout was, I got to work on the -- you guys probably remember the sheriff moratorium on foreclosures; that was about two years ago. And I remember sitting in the office. And Mr. " And I said, "All right. I don't really know anything about this but I guess I'm a law student. " So I went and I -- I went online and I researched it and I learned all about the Charter, the Philadelphia City Charter and how the code worked, which was just great; and I still use that information today when I pursue 117 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 litigation in Philadelphia. And what I realized was that Council had certain things they could do to encourage the sheriff to stay sheriff sales. And I realized politically, it was a win/win: If he doesn't do it, you look terrible; and if he does it, then everybody wins. And my boss, Councilman Jones, would look very good. So through that research, he cosponsored the ordinance -- the resolution, I'm sorry, the non-binding resolution, which encouraged the sheriff to put a moratorium on sheriff sales while he researched it. And, lo and behold, this was picked up by the Wall Street Journal. My father, outside of New York, calls me up; my brother, in San Francisco, calls me up and says, "What's this thing in Philadelphia? " I said, "Actually, I did the 118 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. " And my -- between my parents and my brothers, they couldn't believe it. " And I said, "I am," and it's because of this internship that I had with Councilman Jones. And I wouldn't have had that opportunity without that internship. And another internship I had really quickly was with the Elderly Law Project at Temple Law School. I wrote wills, I helped assist my elderly clients and any number of issues. And, as you know, lawyers bill out a lot; it's not cheap.
And I know that I have provided thousands upon thousands of dollars worth free service for all of these clients. And I did it for free, but I know that there's many people, many students, and many of my classmates who couldn't have done that without 119 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 compensation. And we're not even talking about that much money; we're talking about -- I believe it's $600 per students. I think it's an immeasurable value that these students can bring to the citizens of Philadelphia who pay for these taxes as well as to the students themselves and the organizations. I really think that -- we talked earlier about the Commercial Corridor Block Grants and how they help small businesses. Well, here's an opportunity to really help small businesses hire individuals, get them to stay in Philly, and move on. Well, on that note, I just want to say thank you for your time. And if you have any questions, I'll be here.
Thank you very much. And welcome back. I'm glad your experience was valuable and the program is moving forward. You can see Philadelphia's on 120 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 the map around the whole issue of home preservation and the foreclosure issue, and you can put that on your résumé, that you did the legal work.
Good afternoon, Madam Chair and other members of the committee. My name is Catherine Puccio, and while I will not be giving my testimony today for the sake of time, you all have a copy of it in your folders. And I would just like to say that I can personally echo everything that Dan said. Although I am very happy to be an unpaid student intern for Councilman Jones, there are many people who cannot afford to be unpaid interns; and if this is passed, this would afford them the opportunity to gain valuable work experience while making money for themselves. Thank you. 121 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223
Good afternoon, Madam Chair and the rest of the committee. As well I'll be submitting my testimony as well as for the sake of time.
India Jones, I'm sorry. I just wanted to state as well that -- like the people before me stated, that it is very hard to balance employment as well as your education. And I know that this internship tax credit, if it's passed, will be very, very helpful to students and others that are pursuing their education. And I also wanted to state that I'm currently a student who has to pay for my internship to receive the credits. So to provide funds that, otherwise, if I didn't have to do my internship, I could 122 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 have been doing employment or other things like that, it would definitely help the situation. And also, that internships provide experience that a textbook can't teach. And I think it's very, very powerful in helping in providing employment to students of high school and college. Thank you.
Good afternoon. My name is Theo Thompson. In the spirit of that great American tradition, called "lunchtime," I will forego my testimony.
But it is in your folder. I recommend reading it; it's a good read. (Laughter.) 123 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 And thank you for your time.
All right. Thank you. We appreciate your coming in to testify. We appreciate Councilman Jones taking under his tutelage all of you wonderful interns and former interns. And so, it's just great. Is there anyone else in this group who would like to testify? (No response.)
Is there anyone else here to testify on this bill? (No response.)
Okay. Councilman, do you want a suspension of the rules?
Okay. Is there anyone else here to testify on any 124 6/9/10 - FINANCE COMM. - BILL 100223 of the bills we heard today? (No response.) * * * 125 6/9/10 FINANCE COMMITTEE PUBLIC MEETING
Now we'll go into public meeting. The Chair recognizes Councilman Goode to report out Bill 100129.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No. 100129 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and that the rules be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next Council session. (Motion duly seconded.)
It's been moved and seconded that Bill No. 100129 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and that a request for the Council rules be suspended so that this bill can have its first reading at Council's next session. All in favor will say aye. Is there any opposition? (No opposition.) There being none, the motion is carried. 126 6/9/10 FINANCE COMMITTEE PUBLIC MEETING The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell regarding Bill No. 4 100307.
Thank you, Madam Chairman. I move that Bill No. 100307 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and also a recommendation for a suspension of the rules so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. (Motion duly seconded.)
It has been moved and seconded that Bill No. 16 100307 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and that the rules of Council be suspended so that this bill can be heard at Council's next session. All in favor will say aye. Is there any opposition? (No opposition.) There being none, the motion is carried. 127 6/9/10 FINANCE COMMITTEE PUBLIC MEETING The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell to report out Bill 4 100362.
Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. I move that Bill No. 100362 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation. (Motion duly seconded.)
It's been moved and seconded that Bill 100362 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation. All in favor will say aye. Is there any opposition? (No opposition.) There being none, the motion is carried. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell regarding Bill No. 22 100305.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that Bill No. 100305 be 128 6/9/10 FINANCE COMMITTEE PUBLIC MEETING reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and also that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. (Motion duly seconded.)
It's been moved that Bill 100305 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and that the rules of Council be suspended so that this bill can have a first reading Council's next session. All in favor will say aye. Any opposition? (No opposition.) There being none, this motion is carried. I do believe that we have some amendments to Bill 100357. The Chair calls on Councilwoman Blackwell to report the -- to amend the bill, to offer the amendment.
Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. 129 6/9/10 FINANCE COMMITTEE PUBLIC MEETING I move that the amendment to Bill 100357 be adopted. (Motion duly seconded.)
It has been moved and seconded that the amendment to Bill 100357 be adopted. All in favor? Is there any opposition? (No opposition.) There being none, the motion is carried. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell relative to Bill 15 100224.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Councilwoman, I move that Bill 19 100224 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and also for a suspension of the rules so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. (Motion duly seconded.)
It's been 130 6/9/10 FINANCE COMMITTEE PUBLIC MEETING properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 3 100224 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and a request that the rules of Council be suspended so that this bill can be heard at Council's next session. All in favor will say aye. Is there any opposition? (No opposition.) There being none, the motion is carried. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell for a -- to offer an amendment for Bill 100223.
Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. I move that Bill 100223, that the amendment be adopted. (Motion duly seconded.)
It has been moved and seconded that we adopt the amendment for Bill No. 100223. All in favor will say aye. Is there any opposition? 131 6/9/10 FINANCE COMMITTEE PUBLIC MEETING (No opposition.) There being none, the motion is carried. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell to report out Bill 7 100223, as amended.
Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. I move that Bill No. 100223, as amended, be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation, and also that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. (Motion duly seconded.)
It has been moved and seconded that Bill 100223 be reported out of committee, as amended, with a favorable recommendation and that the rules of Council be suspended so that this bill can be heard at Council's next section. All in favor will say aye. Is there any opposition? 132 6/9/10 FINANCE COMMITTEE PUBLIC MEETING (No opposition.) There being none, the motion is carried. We will recess this committee until tomorrow morning, at 9:30, to further discuss Bill 100357 -- at a.m., 8 not 9:30, 9 a.m. The Committee on 9 Finance will be recessed until tomorrow morning, at 9 a.m., regarding Bill No. 11 100357. Thank you very much. (Proceedings end at 2 p.m.) * * * 133 C E R T I F I C A T E I HEREBY CERTIFY that the proceedings of the City of Philadelphia Council Committee on Finance are contained fully and accurately in the stenographic notes taken by me on Wednesday, June 9, 2010, and that this is a true and correct statement of same. __________________________________ JOSEPHINE CARDILLO Registered Professional Reporter (The foregoing certification of this transcript does not apply to any reproduction of the same by any means, unless under the direct control and/or supervision of the certifying reporter.)