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ZBA Hearing - January 18, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 18, 20236h 45m

meeting we have proof from the voting system that our votes were submitted only once not twice

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and if we can need to provide that we will we got an email verification and a pdf from that so

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we've heard a lot of testimony about the vote but i think the key thing is why don't you read your

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letter all right so um i'm gonna read a summary because i submitted a letter for to the zba

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that was written on behalf of harry cook um and i'd like to enter that as my testimony but i'd

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like to summarize that because it's you know pretty lengthy um so um as it was noted uh my

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my wife who's here with me um you live on 128 west wallot lane and um sorry west topo hawkins street

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and our property shares that the rear property line with the applicants and their garage we saw

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that on the map sure we did. So we first were notified of this proposed development in February

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2022 five days prior to the scheduled RCO meeting. We had no prior notification from the neighbor

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submitting the application and it was really a shock to us to find out that with such little

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time we had to review the intended plans and be prepared for the meeting at the RCO.

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In addition, the plans that were presented today are not the same plans that were presented to and voted by the RCO on the March 2nd meeting.

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And as far as we know, we just saw the plans, the revised plans, two days ago that were forwarded to us.

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As far as we know, aside from the Tom Schwartz and Karen Stevens, I don't know if anyone else saw those plans, but we definitely did not until two days ago.

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So, Mr. Garcia, here's the question.

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You saw the plans two days ago.

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Have you changed your mind?

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You have to look at the plans or you still have objections?

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No, my mind has not changed. I still feel that our opposition is based on several reasons.

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One, the applicant has not fully shown that there's established a legal hardship under the Philadelphia Zoning Code for the parcel.

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It's a single family with a garage and not a residential use in the garage.

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And also that granting the requested variance will have an adverse impact on all adjacent neighbors and is contrary to the public interest as evidenced by the RCO vote, which is being questioned.

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RCO vote which is being questioned and also the 21 near neighbors

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and also the

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whom I spoke to individually who signed the petition submitted with our letter.

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And I did have plans that were provided to us when I spoke to the neighbors and

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we spoke about them and reviewed whatever information we had provided by the applicant

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to us. The existing footprint of the pre-existing non-conforming garage also may not be expanded for

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a new use under relevant case law, and that's important because the addition is completely

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within the 25-foot rear yard setback, which is currently also not compliant with the current

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zoning code right um and from what we understand um in order for the board to grant the variances

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the applicant must show that um you know he meets all the requirements per the philadelphia zoning

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code and um we feel that when he purchased the property he knew it was a single family

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dwelling in the zoning district that forbids multi-family use we knew that he knew that

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there is no hardship that it's only created by him because he's expressing the desire to

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put multiple dwellings on the property and convert the long-standing garage into

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to residential dwellings and secondly I think we granting the requested variances would increase

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the residential use on that parcel by 66 percent and expand the footprint of the pre-existing

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non-conforming garage while the applicant cannot provide credible evidence that this

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proposed variance are required to avoid any unnecessary hardship not created by him

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and they represent the least required variance

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from the code to avoid any unnecessary hardship.

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It is assumed by us that the hardship amounts

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to landowners near desire to increase profitability,

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which he's stating is needed for him to maintain his home.

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This then does not meet the criteria required for variance

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and therefore the variance should be denied.

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thirdly um i have quite a bit here i'm sorry i just they got a lot of time and i think this is

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a really important issue for the neighborhood and we you know um based on the the um master plan for

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the district philadelphia 2035 master plan the planning commission um has recommends that the

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100 block of West Walnut Lane remain low density. Therefore, the applicant's desire to increase the

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density from one family dwelling to three units is inconsistent with the master plan and not

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consistent with the spirit of the zoning code and the adopted plan for the neighborhood, and therefore

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the variance should be denied. In addition, we did, as noted before, the RCO did vote in opposition

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and it's news to us that our vote was not counted but that's because we understand there's certain

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issues there. The opposition petition is also was submitted and from the map that was represented

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earlier in the presentation a lot of the red which were the people in opposition were

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adjacent or near neighbors where a lot of the green and a lot of the letters the addresses

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that were presented were not directly near neighbors or adjacent neighbors and so and a

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lot of the names and letters that were written were by people that are on the RCO or members

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of the RCO, of which Mr. Luke Smith is currently the Vice President of the RCO. And so we feel

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that these points make it clear that the burden is on the applicant to show a legal hardship,

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and that has not been shown. Mr. Garcia, Mr. Garcia, I don't mean to interrupt you,

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But you've said that several times now, and I understand it.

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So could you give me some new testimony?

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Because you've talked about the burden several times.

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So could you try to gear down where you want to be with this?

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Okay, no problem.

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So the last thing is, I mean, the other items I wanted to confirm is I wanted to reiterate that the existing garage is noncompliant.

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And it is currently, they're seeking to expand the use.

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And it is currently, they're seeking to expand the use.

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You've told us that, and I understand that.

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And then the other item is that with the provisios that have been submitted, it seems that what they're trying to do is indicate that they were only asking for one additional dwelling unit.

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From my understanding, what is currently in the zoning code, accessory dwelling units are only allowed on lots that are occupied by a single-family use, and they have to meet the criteria under section 14604.11.D.

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And they also have to be located within the interior of a detached accessory building with the existence of a building that's been in existence before the date of the zoning code.

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What we see here is that the applicant is seeking an additional drawing unit as an accessory drawing unit.

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And this lot will then no longer be considered single-family lot.

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The other item I wanted to bring up is that under the same code, the accessory dwelling units are allowed in areas that meet the requirements outlined by the Philadelphia Historic Commission.

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and they have to be either an historic building recognized by the Philadelphia Historic Commission

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or a large lot in RSA 5 or CMX 1 zoning the applicant's property needs neither of those

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because the the building is not recognized by the Philadelphia Historic Commission

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and on their registry and also the Topohockin Station District is only recognized by

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the department of state not the historic commission and the law is rsa1 and not rsa5 or cmx1 okay

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and then um and and also i wanted to note that the other mr garcia mr garcia let me say this much

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we have the letter from mr cook that he right everything you're saying is coming from the

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letter. Am I correct? This part is not because I just saw the provisio two days ago and I'm just

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speaking now about the provisio. The other information shared in the provisio, in the

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revised plans with provisio is that they are seeking to place a trellis with some landscape

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to buffer the neighboring's properties. But from my understanding, as it's noted in their plans,

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The patio, which they know on the second floor, is not technically a patio.

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It's a roof deck per zoning code definition because it's on top of a roof framing of a building.

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And per the section 146045 of the zoning code, roof decks are prohibited on excessive structures.

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Are you reading this from the letter, sir?

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no this is something that's not from the letter because the letter was written prior to me

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knowing that there were any plans with provisius

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i i'm just to clarify i'm also familiar with the zoning code because i am an i am an architect i'm

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here representing myself as a homeowner i understand i understand i understand um and so

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there is no the the roof deck shouldn't even be allowed the addition shouldn't be allowed

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so the provisions for a trellis to buffer from the roof deck isn't even valid in my opinion um and

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then also um the applicant is proposing windows that are facing the property our property um

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directly and any tenants in that building would then be looking directly into our property and

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therefore the trellis would do nothing to protect our property from being looked upon um the the

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applicant's mother stated that you know in her house people are looking into her backyard well

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now the applicant is trying to do that to my backyard and even if my house is further away

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that is the backyard where my child plays and I don't really want that and

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it's not even allowed because it's less than three feet from the property line

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so for the building code the IRC the IDC you can't even have windows along the

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You can't even have windows along the property line that close.

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property line that close it's not

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It's not legal.

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Okay, are you done, sir?

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What I wanted to finally add is that we feel that with a house that's over 6,000 square feet

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and a lot that's over an acre, we believe the applicant could create a by-right project

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without any hardship required for variance.

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and therefore the proposed and revised plans with proviso should be denied because

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we never saw any alternative plans aside from wanting to add an addition and occupy the carriage

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house okay thank you um steve let me ask you are you gonna question then mr uh um i i'm not gonna

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of question um the witness but i do have um a like a brief closing for you let me let me just

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for before steven is there anyone else in the virtual audience excuse me chair we have charles

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richardson hi mr richardson good afternoon yeah we're in afternoon now mr chair thanks for reminding

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me that's the afternoon charles richardson office of councilwoman cindy bass room 508 city hall

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The councilwoman is not going to make an official decision on this one, but just want to make note that I did attend the RCO meeting.

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It seemed like there was all kinds of opinions that were being bandied about.

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And I made the suggestion that they hold the vote, which it seemed like they had agreed to.

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And, you know, as they had been discussed earlier, and I was kind of surprised that they went forward with the vote for a little later on.

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And then I heard from other people that there was a bunch of confusion with regard to the votes.

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And unfortunately, it seems as though that, you know, the RCO went with the opinion that was rendered with those votes, which was in opposition.

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There seemed to be a lot of room for conversation to take place.

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And I have suggested that to Mr. Smith and also to the RCO board in order for this to kind of play out a little better than what it has.

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Do also want to make note that Mr. Smith has since done a lot of work, did speak with him and noted that he has a lot of letters of support.

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and you know so therefore you know making note that that is the case uh we're leaving it in

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the hands of the board to make a wise decision on this on this property thank you thank you

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mr richardson anyone else in the virtual audience chair let we have a hand up uh first name again

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and an f last name garcia um hello hi could you state your name please and spell for the court

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reporter uh fazia f-a-u-z-i-a last name s-a-d-i-q space g-a-r-c-i-a right do you swear a firm to tell

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the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes are you associated with mr garcia yes um so

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i agree with the testimony the one thing i wanted to add was that the first hearing for the zba was

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supposed to occur in July. If the applicant had any issues with the RCO vote, he could have decided

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to have another vote that was never presented to the RCO. And so that is kind of interesting that

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he's now trying to say that people had issues with the vote. The project could have come back

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to the RCO and it was never brought back to the RCO. And we never received a meeting with the RCO

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to review the provisios and the new drawings um so i wanted to thank you thank you for pulling in

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i appreciate it is there anyone else i seen chair we have one chair we have three several hands up

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it's about four hands up um next in line we have bernard wilson okay okay mr wilson i am here

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All right. State your name, please. Spell for the court reporter.

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Bernard Wilson, B-R-N-A-R-D-W-I-L-S-O-N.

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Do you swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Mr. Wilson, are you for the project or against it?

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I'm against the project.

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Okay. Could you tell us why in a short period of time?

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um our resident is 146 which uh the west top of the southeast corner of our property

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is at the corner of luke smith's property we were dismayed at the onset of this because

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mr smith never came to us to speak to us about his intentions as a former president

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came to us to speak to us about his intentions as a former president of West Central Germantown

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Neighbors. I'm very familiar with the process, and I would have loved to have engaged him in

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conversation about his desires, but I never got an opportunity. The other thing that is also

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interesting is that this proviso came out, and the revised drawings were never submitted back

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to the community for review. So it was interesting to me that there was a sort of non-sequitur

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here that the RCO letter, the provisional letter, got admitted and it did not go back

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before the community group to discuss it, to vote on it, etc. The last thing I'll say

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very quickly is that the only carriage houses that have been converted to use in the immediate

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vicinity is the one to the east of Luke, the large property which has been commercial for many years

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and the one at 120 which according to the records online it is not permitted as a use for a family

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dwelling. The final thing I want to say is that if you look at the graphic the red which denoted

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objection to the plan in closest proximity to the property is stronger than the ones on the outline

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in the green which are farther away from the property than any of us who object thank you

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thank you all right how many more hands do we have i see no excuse me thank you every time

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every time i say i see no hands hands pop up we have thomas schwartz well okay you want to

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that's the last one there's no other hands no okay come on yes please i'll let my wife

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karen stevens speak she has something to say okay uh state your name please and spell for the court

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reporter karen stevens k-a-r-e-n-s-t-e-v-e-n-s right do you swear for him to tell the truth

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the whole truth nothing but the truth i do we also have a letter from you yes and i i apologize

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for not being able to unmute myself before i but i'm saying we have a letter also from you right

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you do you do yes okay we'll proceed uh well we are in favor uh i feel that it is a reasonable

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request we are located right right in back the impact would be the largest on us right it was

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our carriage house in all the pictures and we do not have it developed uh we have been

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friends with the smiths for over 30 years we know them very well they are good people they

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are community minded and uh i i thank you very much but i stand at 12 30 i have to we have to

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end it completely so we have a letter from you everything you said we know where you live we

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saw it on the map and we appreciate it are there are there any questions from the board

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no mr chairman okay um no mr chair uh hillary do you want to interject anything here

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yes mr chair um mr masters in your presentation you noted that the additional dwelling unit um

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the that was being sought now is uh they're seeking to have an uh adu an accessory dwelling

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unit there along with an in-law suite is that correct um yes the the carriage house will the

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first floor would be an in-law suite so that would belong to the same family as the main house and

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then there will be a separate accessory dwelling unit on the second floor okay um because an

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accessory dwelling unit is under the code is different than a regular dwelling unit and

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doesn't necessarily well it doesn't render the property of multi-family use because it's

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accessory. It's not considered an additional dwelling unit. And so if your client would like

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to have an accessory dwelling unit, we will have to have the refusal go back to L&I for review

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under the accessory dwelling unit criteria. The board can't vote on it as the plans are right

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now because they they don't match what's in what was originally requested um and it's a different

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criteria that the the plant the the uh lni has to review for an accessory dwelling unit than just

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for an additional dwelling so we we do not want that to happen um miss emerson uh we we would stand

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with with just a separate dwelling unit and and we we our argument is that it's very similar

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to an accessory dwelling unit it doesn't meet exactly the criteria because we don't have the

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exactly the criteria because we don't have the historical commission designation we have the

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historical commission designated

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