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ZBA Hearing - April 9, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Apr 9, 20255h 27m

I'll tell you, that building always looked great when you're going down.

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you're going down the highway you look to your right it really it really was a classy looking

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building well thank you thank you all right do you have a question sorry is your facility open

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on weekends and are people accessing it on the weekends it's primarily during the weekdays um

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there are some center functions that will do like respite or a variety of different community

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activities that could be during the weekends, but the primary services are during the weekdays.

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And then given that the high school's down the street, have you thought at all about just traffic

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and even busing of youngsters drop-off pickup times at that location? That's the slide I have

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up right now, which I forgot to get to, but this is my traffic slide, so thank you. So yes, this is

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This is the in and out utilizing their avenue with the entrance on there.

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The individuals who are receiving treatment are dropped off at the front.

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A attained employee comes out, picks them up, brings them into the into the space.

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And then that that vehicle then would exit out back onto there.

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They don't ever go into into off the property or into there's no curb cuts into the into the neighborhood,

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which is a big issue in our community meetings we have 69 parking spaces it's exactly the way

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it was set up and this was really one of the attractions for attain was it's just so well

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suited right on there it's also got great mass transit it's got great parking and then this

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in and out configuration so hopefully that's a sufficient answer but yes one more so when

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parents drop their child out they don't get out most of them stay in the car that's correct by

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design so that we can keep the flow going um we have a staff a line of staff members that are

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receiving each each uh client that comes comes right let's just a real quick question do you

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target an area like a catchment area or do you take anybody that's referred to anywhere in the city

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um so the the choice is purposeful um there are a large variety a large wait list um within the

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general area for, to, to receive behavioral health services. So we've consulted with school

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districts. They also have a large need for like social skills and treatment evaluations and so

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forth. So yes, it was, it was a purposeful location for us. Thank you. And then one more

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question. Is there no outdoor space for the kids? Like, do they need, and is there a plan to

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accommodate that at the site um there is so there's a there's there's a smaller area in the

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front um that we were looking at uh devoting some sort of play area um uh in in the front um the the

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back area isn't isn't extensive but we could potentially do something back there as well yeah

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but what's again this is another you know real attraction was there's a big chunk of that first

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floor used for a large group play area correct that's correct i can go through the the floor

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plans but it's it's a good size building so it gives us classrooms it gives us office space it

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gives us back office operations but there also is that type of large play space here so it's

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if we had a lot more land it would be probably better um but it certainly fit the needs your

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programmatic and um educational and needs so correct a lot of that play area is targeted for

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the inside on that first on that first floor i could go back to the floor plans on that but that's

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a huge chunk of of that first floor is is that is that play is that play area group area

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questions from our attorney uh yes sir i just want to clear up something um i believe you've

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been in contact with hillary emerson the normal attorney yeah sure yes uh you represent the

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equitable owner correct you have authorization from the legal title holder yes okay yeah yeah

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attain is the client 1800 south 32nd lc is in the special purpose entity that was you know and i

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think we had sent some emails i just wanted to put that on the record because i i wasn't in those

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emails yes we responded yesterday to that as well so questions or comments from the virtual audience

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i know he said this time to planning commission

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amy boyd with the planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no change in

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zoning at this location from the existing residential multifamily rm1 the building which

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use which is to remain once housed pha headquarters and is not configured to be used as multifamily

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household living the property is roughly 40 feet from i-95 occupies an entire block and does not

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have adjacent residences so the proposed use would not injure the use of adjacent properties

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the planning commission recommends the board grant their experience for group medical and

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business and professional offices. Thank you. MI 2024-007-535-1800.

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Thank you. MI 2024-007-535-1800 South 32nd Street, I vote yes.

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Johns, my vote is yes. Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes. Tanetta Graham, my vote is yes.

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Iowyn, my vote is yes. Thank you, counsel. Thank you very much. I just want to put on the record

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the community groups down there, there's like three or four really worked with us. There's a

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whole autism support community within some of those groups that we're going to be

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working with and it was just a very nice experience and we had multiple meetings to go

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through this so I think it's going to be I know people get criticism of community groups but this

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this was this was this was done the right way well that's the right thing yeah it really was

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it was wonderful thank you all right so number one MI 2024 006 677 3028 North 15th Street Henry

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Clinton is the attorney.

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There's a done opposition of

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Mount Ganey West Civic Association.

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Henry Clinton will be

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rejoining us as a panelist.

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Mr. Chairman, Henry Clinton here.

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I don't know why my

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video is not working.

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Okay.

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Is he

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promoted to panelists?

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Yes, Chair.

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He has been promoted to panelists.

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Is it coming up now?

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Yeah, should it come up now, Henry?

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Yeah, I'm clicking the start video.

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Here we go.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Well, maybe I can start my presentation and I could still show my screen if you don't see me.

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Yeah, I mean, if you can get the screen on, it will be fine.

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I mean, we know your voice very well.

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Yeah, I don't know what's happening.

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That's never happened.

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And your office, we know.

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That was a great fact.

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Will you be sworn in there, Mr. Chairman?

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Yeah, why don't you, first of all, state your name and spell for the...

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Sure.

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

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Henry Clinton, C-L-I-N-T-O-N, Henry, H-E-N-R-Y.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Could you identify your client, a relationship to the property?

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Sure.

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My client is 3028 North 15th Street, LLC, and the principal Mann, M-A-N-N, Barpoor, B-H-A-R-P-O-O-R,

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is on the call.

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Okay.

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And do you waive the reading of the refusal and do you agree with its accuracy?

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I do.

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Why don't we start?

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I'll share my screen then, Mr. Chairman.

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No.

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It's coming up now, Henry.

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Is that visible?

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Yes, it is, sir.

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All right.

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So I'll do this behind a curtain.

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, members of the board.

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I'm here on behalf of 3028 North 15th Street.

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my table of contents, which contain exhibits A1 through A10, as well as a plethora of zoning

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records, as well as the past history of this property. So I was before the prior board a mere

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six years ago for this exact same project, 2019, with another client. That client also obtained a

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building permit in 2022, but the zoning permit has expired, as has the building permit, and that

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client sold it to my current client, but it's the same architect, the same project. The only thing

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that we did differently is that we installed in the plans a rear set of steps for access to the

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bedrooms in the basement. The refusal, we have one use refusal. This is an RSA 5 zoning

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District, and we're requesting three families. There's no issue with regard to open space,

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rear yard, or height. I did not get the RCO letter till late, but I know it was sent into the board

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and a letter of non-opposition. Correct, Mr. Chairman? From Allegheny West Civic Association.

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Correct. This is to give you a context of the block. This is a current vacant lot.

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This is to give you a context of the block.

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This is a current vacant lot.

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And as you see from Allegheny West's letter, the lot has been vacant for at least 20 years and potentially longer.

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I've outlined the multifamily properties on the block.

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Directly across the street is a three-family dwelling.

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And that almost caddy corner is a four-family dwelling.

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Close-up view showing the vacant lot fenced in.

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It's kind of unique.

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There's two-story buildings on one side and three-story on the other side.

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So we're trying to mimic the larger building on the right-hand side.

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This is a photograph from 2004.

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I was able to get it from the archives, again, showing the vacant lot.

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This is the house directly across the street that I referenced earlier.

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This is 3037.

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This is the three-family dwelling.

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You can see the three mailboxes on the front wall.

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this is looking down the street in one direction again just showing you the different types of

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housing on the block this is looking in the other direction it's tough to see with

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where my black line is that's where the vacant lot is

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zoning posters

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some more photographs just for context

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Next. This is the floor plan. So in the basement or cellar, again, as I said at the outset, we now have a rear means of egress. There's a window well with steps leading up to the rear yard. In the basement would be two bedrooms and a full bath. On the first floor would be one bedroom, living, dining, and kitchen with access to the rear yard.

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second floor uh would have an entrance on the front and then two bedrooms living dining room

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and what is unique is we do not have a rooftop deck but each apartment has a rear deck uh for

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you know some outdoor area and to store trash until trash day moving up to the third floor

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on the switchback steps it's really mimicking what's on the second floor two bedrooms a full

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bath, washer, dryer, and then also we have the kitchen area toward the rear near the exterior

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deck. This is a rendering of the front brick on the first and second floor with a mansard roof

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set back a little bit from the second story homes on the left side.

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This is a cutaway view showing the rear decks on the second and third floor.

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We're also mimicking the porches on the block to try to have the house, even though it's new construction and it does look more modern, at least trying to mimic some of the porches on the block.

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In terms of depth, we try to keep with the depth of the homes adjacent on either side a little bit shallower than the home two doors down.

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Our application for appeal, tax clearance, zoning map.

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Again, as I said at the outset, this is an RSI-5 zoning district, and the reason we're before you is we're seeking a multifamily dwelling.

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Indeed, indicating ownership, my prior client was Lex Properties, who did have this project approved, but for the rear steps.

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And just because circumstances didn't warrant them completing the project, and they sold it to my current client.

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Notice of mailing.

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mailed out 185 pieces of mail, and then I'll get to the zoning record.

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So this is the prior history of the property.

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You can see in 2019, we did get approval for a three-family household living.

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These are the plans.

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Again, the same plans.

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You can see the rear deck.

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You can see the porch, the upper deck.

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The circles around here indicate that there was one change at that time

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where the mansert roof was installed rather than a root of excuse me a wall going straight up

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and here's the proviso form that we use there we introduced the mansert roof at the third floor level

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this was a refusal back then basically the same thing rsa5

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multi-family not prohibited in the area

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and these are some of the other zoning records these mimic the aerial photograph that i showed

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at the outset, various addresses that have two, three, and four family dwellings. But before I

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get that, this is the commercial building permit that was issued in 2022 for the client at that

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time, and they decided to not move forward. Here are the zoning records, 3008, two family. This is

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30, 42, two family, 30, 45, two family, 30, 46, two family, 46.

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30, 45, two family, 30, 46, two family, 47, 30, 43, which is, as I said, almost catty corner to the subject properties, four units, and then directly across the street was three units.

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So the community group, some of the members did remember me being there a while ago, and they still want that vacant lot filled in, and they were happy that it was going to be multifamily.

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my client promised to make the homes affordable and put that on the record in

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front of everybody at the community. And that was well-received also.

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So with that, Mr. Chairman,

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I would end my presentation and ask if my client could be unmuted to adopt the

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testimony. And we'll entertain any questions, obviously from the board.

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I mean, what's your client's name?

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Man, M-A-N-N, B-A-P-O-R, B-H-A-R-P-O-R.

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Barpour Mahan has been promoted to panelists.

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Good afternoon, sir.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Mahan, can you raise your hand?

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Hi, this is Barpour.

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Can you guys hear me?

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Yes, we can hear you.

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Please state your name and spell for the stenographer.

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My name is Bharpur Maan, B-H-A-R-P-O-O-R, last name Maan, M-A-N-N.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Bharpur, were you on the call when I presented your project today to the board?

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Yes.

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