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ZBA Hearing - January 25, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 25, 20234h 58m

that um photo council this one here no i believe it was 11 where you had the parking in the bike

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parking where where they were entering yeah yes so what what exactly where's the exits coming out

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What exactly, where's the exits coming out of the parking garage for the vehicles?

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of the parking

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Yeah, the entrance to the exit.

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All on 39th Street.

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So the exits and the entrance is coming off of 39th Street?

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Correct.

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Okay, so what about the congestion of cars going in and out on that busier street?

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On 39th Street?

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Yes.

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We're going to have our traffic engineer come and testify to that. But we have been obviously we submitted a traffic study and working with the streets department on that as well. But our traffic engineer will testify to that or I can have Mr. Voss answer the question.

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I mean, it was designed. The code does encourage to have both ingress and egress in a single drive aisle coming out onto a principal street like this. They try to minimize the amount of curb cuts on the zoning code.

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okay so do you want the architect to speak on that or mr voss mr voss if you would like to

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try and address it but then i will also have the uh the engineer the traffic engineer testify as

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well yeah i would prefer the traffic engineer address the technical issues associated with

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the question okay okay all right so we're good you want to go to the traffic engineer next mr

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mcclure uh you know i would like to go to i'm going to go to uh the professional engineer who's

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going to talk about sight lines which are also addressed mr shaheed's comment and then also

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traffic engineers so the testimony will be helpful for mr shaheed or at least i'm hopeful hopeful

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that it will be okay thank you thank you thank you i'd like to elevate mr james gleaton

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as a panelist. G-L-E-A-T-L-N.

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Hi, sir. Could you state your name, please, and spell for the court reporter?

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He's coming back in as a panelist now, Chair. Thank you.

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Okay. Good afternoon, James. Hi. Could you state your name, please, and spell for the court

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reporter? James Gleaton, G-L-E-A-T-O-N. Right. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole

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truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes, I do. Okay. Counsel, proceed. Sure. Mr. Gleaton, could you

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please describe your educational background and work experience? Yes. University of Pittsburgh

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graduate, civil engineering, master's degree in global energy management. I've been a professional

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engineer in the state of pennsylvania since 2001 and for work experience i have done site line

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design most recently for the cassidy school here in the city of philadelphia

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for a school being constructed wonderful and have you testified before municipal boards

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in pennsylvania in the past in zoning matters and been qualified as an expert in civil engineering

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yes i have is your cv here on exhibit 21 of the zoning packet which is on the screen

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yes it is okay i'd like to offer mr james gleaton as an expert civil engineer

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and mr gleam did note his experience in designing site triangles for uh for garages and parking

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facilities thank you he's a we admit that mr gleam could you explain your role in the proposed

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development i'm the project manager for civil design uh are you um are you familiar with the

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the use-specific standards contained in Section 1460310 of the Philadelphia Zoning Code for

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Non-Accessory Above-Ground Parking Garages? Yes, I am. Okay. I'm referring to Exhibit 13.

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Mr. Gleaton, is that that section I just referenced? Yes, it is. Okay.

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And what was your role with the preparation of the plan prepared concerning sight lines for

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vehicles exiting the parking garage on 39th Street. I'm going to refer to those two diagrams,

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which I believe are relevant to Mr. Shahid's question, 16A and 16B. What was your role?

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I was a supervisor engineer for another engineer who designed it at my firm.

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Okay. And have you reviewed the plans shown on 16A and 16B? And are you familiar with the

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details of the parking garage, including its internal design and details relating to ingress

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and egress? Yes, I am. Have you visited the site? Yes, I have. Okay. Do you agree with the methodology

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and the conclusions of this plan in 16A and 16B? Yes, I do. Could you explain what they show?

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what shows uh they show if a car is coming out on 39th street um yes you're right there

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that the driver is able to see um traffic along with pedestrians coming from both the left

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traffic along with pedestrians coming from both the left and right side is needed and that's based

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on the speed of the traffic which is regulated by the city and also the slope of the street which

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is calculated by the engineers. Okay and how about 16B? What is 16B? Yes that is where I said where

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you actually have the grade you actually show what the speed limit is and that gives you the

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distance you can see, which would be the two numbers there, 148 and 145. And this is a pen

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dot form that the state has you fill out or use? Yes. Okay. And in your professional opinion,

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do proper sight lines for a driver exiting the parking garage exist across both sides of the

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sidewalk such that the driver of a vehicle would be able to see pedestrians on the sidewalk adjacent

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into the driveway before any part of the vehicle exits the garage yes i apologize for the long

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winded question that is the exact language from the zoning code um um question for um for the

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board if there's any specific questions for mr gleaton before i bring up the traffic engineer

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any questions no mr chairman not not right now mr chair okay why don't we bring up the traffic

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engineer mr chairman i'd like to elevate mr michael davidson thank you mr gleam please stay

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online thank you mr davidson please unmute yourself and wait for the day

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i could could could you state your name please and spell for the court reporter

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Michael Davidson, M-I-C-H-A-E-L-D-A-V-I-D-S-O-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Proceed, counsel.

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Yeah.

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Mr. Davidson, can you turn on your camera?

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Mr. Davidson, could you please describe your educational background and work experience?

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I apologize.

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eyes. I thought my camera's on. Don't worry about the camera. It's all right. Could you describe

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your educational background and work experience? Yes, I have a Bachelor of Science degree in

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Civil Engineering from Penn State University and a Master of Science degree in Civil Engineering

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from the University of Texas at Austin. I have a little over 15 years of experience

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in traffic engineering, and I'm a registered professional engineer in Pennsylvania.

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And you not only studied traffic congestion, you studied traffic engineering as well as the effect

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on the streets as well as pedestrians, correct? Correct. And yeah, for over 15 years, I've been

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performing traffic analysis, collecting traffic data. I've done this for multiple state departments

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of transportation so you've worked for government agencies mr davidson yes i have okay and could

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you refer i'm referring to exhibit 20 can you see that on on your screen mr davidson yes i can is

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that your curriculum vitae yes it is i'd like to offer mr davidson as an expert in traffic engineering

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mr chairman thank you that's fine thank you could you explain your your role in the proposed development

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yes i'm the traffic engineer for the project okay and are you familiar with the use specific

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standards contained in section 14 16 14 603 10 of the zoning code for non-necessary above

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ground parking garages yes i am okay i'm referring to exhibit 13s on the screen is that that section

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yes it is okay and what is your role in the preparation

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in this project did you prepare a traffic study yes i prepared the transportation impact study

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report i performed traffic analysis and i oversaw all work performed by others for the study

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and there's a study not only the impact on vehicle traffic but also on pedestrian traffic correct

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Yes, he incorporated pedestrian and bicycle traffic.

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Excellent. And you studied both the impact. You studied 39th Street and 38th Street, as well as Ludlow and Market Street, correct?

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Correct.

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Okay. I'm going to refer to Exhibit 14, which is the TIS.

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Okay, I'm bringing up the screen. Can you tell us more about the study area that was used for the traffic study on Exhibit 14? I'm going to move down to page two of your report, okay?

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Yep, so prior to beginning work on the study.

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Yep. So prior to beginning work on the study, we met with PennDOT District 6 in the City of Philadelphia just to coordinate on the scope of work for the study.

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And we came to a consensus on the study intersections that would be included and that is shown on the map that's on the screen.

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The intersections highlighted with the green dot are signalized intersections, and the red dots signify unsignalized intersections.

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And so it was eight intersections surrounding the proposed development.

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Okay. And can you tell us a little bit about the existing conditions, though, when it comes to the level of service in those areas?

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Sure. Obviously, this is an urban core area with a considerable amount of pedestrian and bicycle traffic in addition to the vehicular traffic.

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There are several different public transportation options in the area, including SEPTA bus lines

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and SEPTA subway line, the station located at 40th and Market Street.

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After we performed the existing conditions analysis, we found that there is some congestion

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at the study intersections, but it is an acceptable amount of congestion.

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And the acceptable amount of congestion is determined by the the ITE manual, International Traffic Engineering Manual.

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Yeah, so correct. And there's what we call level of service in the traffic engineering world to simplify traffic conditions at an intersection.

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And it's a letter grade from A to F. A signifies best operations and F signifies the worst operations.

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And what we found is, for the existing conditions, each intersection operates at a level of service C or better.

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Okay. Do the traffic impact study incorporate other developments existing or proposed within the vicinity of the project when doing not only figuring out what the current conditions are, but what the proposed will be and the likely impact when this project comes online with the other projects?

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And I'm going to refer to page three of Exhibit 14.

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Yes, we incorporated traffic due to the development of the other pieces of the U-City Square Master Plan.

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We also incorporated traffic associated with the new parking garage that's being constructed to serve the Penn Presbyterian Medical Center.

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In addition to that, PennDOT publishes growth rates to account for any unforeseen growth in traffic, and we incorporated those growth rates into our future analysis.

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Okay. Anything else that you want to talk about the methodology that you use for analyzing the traffic information for the study?

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Sure. So we collected traffic data on Tuesday, April 5th, 2022.

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And how do you do that?

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We deployed cameras that recorded traffic from 6 to 9 a.m. and 3 to 6 p.m.

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And then after the cameras were done recording, we processed that data, and we got vehicular turning movement counts, bicycle turning movement counts, and pedestrian crossings at each of the study intersections.

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And that was April 2022?

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Correct, April 5, 2022.

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So schools were operating in April 2022, as well as the neighboring universities?

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correct okay go on mr go on mr davidson sure so we use that data along with intersection

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specific information such as traffic signal timings and we analyze the am and pm peak hours

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for existing conditions and future conditions we incorporated the future traffic from the

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other developments that we just talked about. And in addition, we forecasted future trips

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associated with the proposed development. That's the subject of the study. And we used

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standard traffic engineering software to perform the analysis.

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perform the analysis. Could you explain how the project will impact the level of service

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Could you explain how the project will

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at the intersections within the study area? And those are the ones that were shown in the

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beginning of the TIS and 14. And could you refer to the chart that's on page four of existing 14,

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which I believe is your summary of both the existing conditions and the resulting conditions,

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correct? Correct. So, in total, we analyzed five different scenarios, the existing conditions.

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I apologize, four scenarios. The existing conditions, the two different opening years

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of the two phases, and then a design horizon year of 2032. So, in that design horizon year,

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all but one intersection operates at level of service with and without the development.

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So what we did was we forecasted future traffic conditions with the development constructed

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and without, and we compared the two results. The one intersection where the level of service

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does change is at 38th Street and Market Street, and that changes during the PM peak hour from a

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level of service c to a level of service d um so while that does change from a c to a d

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it is within the acceptable thresholds as defined by the pendot standards and in addition it is

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would not be considered an unacceptable level of congestion thank you and mr davison the board

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had a specific question regarding the entrance and exit on 39th Street, both having the same

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point being an ingress and egress point and the driveway. Could you talk a little bit about how

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you believe that will operate and how you can validate your conclusions? Sure. So we did

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considered the existing traffic into and out of the surface parking lot. So we did incorporate

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that traffic. We grew that traffic in accordance with the PennDOT background growth rate. Now we

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added the additional trips that we forecasted due to the proposed development and the other

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developments in the area. And then we performed the analysis. We also

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used some of the PennDOTS tools to analyze whether or not that proposed driveway intersection

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would warrant separate turning lanes on 39th Street, and they would not be warranted. And

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And as you can see, they operate, the intersection operates fairly well at level of service A in the design horizon year of 2032.

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And do you believe that the existing of that driveway will not have a negative, a material negative impact on South 39th Street?

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No.

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Okay.

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Does the traffic impact study propose any improvements to the study area?

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and I'm referring to page four of the TIS. Yes, so in conjunction with our coordination

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with PennDOT and the city, we propose to upgrade the curb ramps at two of the study intersections

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in upgrading to meet Americans with Disabilities Act standards. We also propose to increase

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increase the traffic signal cycle length at the intersection of 39th Street and Market Street, which is at the northwest corner of the proposed development site.

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And that increase in the traffic signal cycle length will provide more green time to left turning vehicles traveling westbound on Market Street and progressing on to southbound 39th Street.

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Thank you. I'm going to read to you the question, but it comes from the zoning code.

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In your professional opinion, will the project materially degrade the level of service at any signalized intersection within 400 feet of the project during any 15-minute period between 7.30 a.m. and 9.30 a.m. and 4.00 p.m. and 6.00 p.m. to an unacceptable level of congestion as determined by professional engineering standards?

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No.

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okay and so you believe that in a high high degree of certainty professional certainty yes

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mr davis mr davis i guess i have one question uh so when you took the uh traffic

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So when you took the traffic numbers into account, there is another curve cut along that block.

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Am I correct?

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I'm sorry.

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Can you be more specific as to which curve cut?

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yeah so on on the 3900 block uh between chestnut and market there should be another curve cut

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along that block at the at the boston market

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trying to get a plan mr shaheed one second

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here's the 39th block i'm pointing to exhibit 10a

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mr shaheed the the curb cut that you're talking about is on the the block of the south

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yes okay here

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yes that was not within the scope of the transportation impact study

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and i think but i actually think yeah

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so i thought the presenter before you said in the study it was from uh from chestnut

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to market um in that study of the traffic that was going in and out of the streets

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along with the bike controlled traffics with pedestrians

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we did analyze one intersection on chestnut street the intersection of 38th street and chestnut street

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mr if maybe if i can ask a question of mr davison i think can get to your to your point i i think

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If I may, Mr. Shahid, Mr. Davison, I think Mr. Shahid is saying there is an existing curb cut at Boston Market between Ludlow and Chestnut.

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And I think what you said is you did not study that specific curb cut, but have you studied that length of street and are you comfortable to believe that the garage that you're putting on 39th Street will not adversely impact either that driveway or the operations of 39th Street in general?

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we studied 39th street ludlow street and it will not um you know materially degrade

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operations at that intersection we did not specifically study the curb cut that's located

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on 39th street between uh ludlow street and chestnut street so i cannot speak to that

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curb cut specifically understood which way does 39th street go

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north south goes from goes from north to south so you you have studied the intersection

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and the traffic at ludlow and 39th street correct correct how is that intersection operating today

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39th and ludlow operates at a level of service a for both the a.m. and p.m. peak hours okay

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And how did you take into account the level of service of that intersection?

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For existing conditions, we incorporated the vehicle turning movement counts, pedestrian traffic at the intersection, and bicycle traffic, along with other intersection-specific information to perform the analysis.

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And you predicted traffic based upon peak periods, right?

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