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ZBA Hearing - October 21, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 21, 20206h 33m

on behalf of applicant caring people alliance attorney id number 71666 you swear to affirm

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to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, sir, I do.

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Thank you.

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Please proceed.

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Do you agree to waive the reading of its refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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Yes, I do.

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Also, have you emailed an exhibit packet with the required documents,

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proof of ownership, proof of tax compliance, copies of refusal or referral,

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photos, and plans five days prior to this hearing?

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Yes, I have.

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Thank you.

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and just for the record we received our letter of support from the rco yesterday and i emailed it to

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the board today

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you're good you can proceed

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thank you very much i'm sorry i was muted uh you have a letter of support you sent from the rco

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yes i we received it yesterday and i emailed it today sir okay thank you and if you could

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do your best to summarize we'd appreciate that i will keep it short and sweet like my stature

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do your best to summarize, we'd appreciate that. I will keep it short and sweet, like my stature

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and personality. So I represent Caring People Alliance, which is a 501c3 nonprofit in Philadelphia

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that's been in existence since 1932. And it provides child care through at various locations

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throughout Philadelphia. So with me this evening is our president and CEO, Dr. Jerry McDonnell,

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and our Senior Director of Community Outreach, Brandon Gilmore.

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We are seeking the Board's approval for a use variance for the property at 5843 through 55

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Catherine Street, which is currently the site of the Sharon Baptist Church Community Center.

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And I will pull up my documents.

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okay this is the property

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and currently um caring people alliance is has executed um an agreement of sale with the

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sharon baptist church which was executed on may 18th of 2020 um which is i do note um which i

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highlighted on page five of the document five and six is contingent upon cpa um actually receiving

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approval for this use variance of the property and the proposed use of the property is a daycare

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center with after school care summer camp and a boys and girls club along with permitting

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athletic events to be held in the gymnasium along with meals prepared in a commercial grade kitchen

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The area is zoned as RM1, and the property, which is approximately 25,000 square feet,

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is located here on the corner of 59th and Catherine Street. Under the zoning code,

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because Caring People Alliance, this property, what we are proposing for the property would be

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deemed as a child care center as it will provide services for 14 or more children, which presuming

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to the zoning code would be prohibited in the zoning district. On May 21st of 2020,

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we applied for, I'm sorry about that.

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We applied for a use permit for the property with L&I, and on May 22nd of 2020, the application

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was denied. And then on June 18th, on behalf of the Caring People Alliance, I filed, we appealed

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the denial, which was a refusal of the use permit. And we are again requesting to seek a use variance

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from the ZBA. And I just note that going back in the zoning archives hearing with regard to

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Sharon Baptist Church, that in 2006 they too applied for a zoning use registration permit

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for which they were granted a variance, as you can see here, for the same purposes that

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Care and People Alliance is, which included a daycare center, preparing and serving of food,

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as well as using accessory offices, a kitchen to prepare meals, and their athletic events.

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So, and that was granted to them. The only thing different from our use to theirs is the fact that

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we will not have obviously religious services there. And so just real quickly, we did submit

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it, and we had a very positive meeting with the Cobbs Creek Neighbors Association. They

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sent a letter in support with no objection. And just quickly, this is the, going through

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the pictures, this is the community center, and it will be called our West Philadelphia

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Community Center. And that is facing north. So the area really is residential with a couple

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of corner stores anchoring the various corners of Catherine and 59th as well as further down

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on the lower the other side of Catherine as you can see it's primarily residential

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and then these are classrooms that we would do there would be no exterior construction

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or renovation just inside these are classrooms we will make a little playground area for an

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closed outside area that faces 59th street. Let's see outside again. And this is our lower level

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that we would divide up into classrooms. This is where they had their place of worship.

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That's another angle. This is where we would permit it, where they had a commercial grade kitchen and they outlined it. And we will set that up there in that area.

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That's another angle. This is where we would permit it, where they had a commercial

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And as I like to say, the piece de resistance is the gymnasium, which is a fabulous facility that we would be more than happy to open up to the community to use for athletic events on evenings and weekends.

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We are also, as discussed with the RCOs, we will keep the place open as a polling place,

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and we really look forward to integrating Caring People Alliance within the Cobbs Creek community.

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So the only thing that I have left is just one more document,

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and that was just the letter that we received from Cobbs Creek Neighbors in support,

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and we will continue conversations to figure out to allay their worries and make sure that we

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integrate fully with them, including having activities for seniors and helping out smaller

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independent daycare centers. So with that, I would just ask to call Dr. McDonald just to adopt my

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testimony and then unless the board has questions, that's it. Thank you, Dr. Hello. Hi, Dr. Please

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identify yourself name and address for the record please uh jerry mcdonald j-e-r-r-y m-a-c-d-o-n-a-l-d

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uh 1628 jfk boulevard philadelphia 19103 thank you you swear and affirm to tell the truth the

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truth and nothing but the truth yes please proceed thank you dr mcdonald you heard my testimony today

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before the board is that correct yes and is it true and accurate to the best of your knowledge

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yes it is and would you adopt that my testimony what i represented before the board as your own

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yes i do okay and with that we would just ask to move all our packet into evidence and we would

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rest no no thank you miss grushman any questions from the board no no anyone else who would like

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to testify in this case if so please raise your hand i have an emma earl are you here on behalf

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of this case you're going to meet yourself ma'am please identify yourself with the record spell

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your first and last name and provide us with your address no unmute chair we can move okay

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can you hear me hello okay my name is emma earl e-m-m-a-e-a-r-l-e and i am of the third ward

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republicans rco as well as the 5800 block of catherine street block captain do you swear

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and affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth i affirm thank you please

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proceed yes as per the queries of the block captains in a one block radius the overall

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consensus of the residents is a no as to the business as well uh as it will adversely impact

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the neighborhood due to the parking situation which is high density uh the people's alliance

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and uh said approximately 20 30 people would be employed 100 children serviced and um other

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children bused in from other areas uh this area cannot absorb any more vehicles as it will have

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the residents virtually prisoners in their own homes unable to go out in their cars there are

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many days where you pull out of a space and somebody's right there to pull right in. Some

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of the residents said no because of the zoning change and gentrification issues as well as the

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possibility of loitering issues from the influx of the children as that location is surrounded by

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stores on each corner. There were a few people that you know wanted to hear more but other than

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that you know it was my responsibility to put forth what the residents want. Thank you. Anyone

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else who would like to testify in this case please raise your hand. That's all chair. Thank you. Planning

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Commission. Mr. Chairman this is Mason Austin with the Planning Commission. The property is indicated

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for single family residential and the comprehensive plan and is currently zoned for multi-family

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residential however due to the support of the coordinating rco and and because it would address

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a significant need in the area the planning commission has no objection to the granting of

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this variance thank you mi-2020-001146 5843-55 catherine street my vote is yes

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my vote is yes my vote is yes my vote is yes

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thank you so we go to spark street thank you thank you mr chair you have that calendar calendar number

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Thank you.

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Mr. Chair, you have that calendar number.

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I don't have to pay for it.

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I have it.

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MI-2020-000015, 106 Sparks Street.

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Is there an attorney present for this one?

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I believe the lady is representing herself.

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No, she is pro se.

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Promoted.

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Ms. Barton.

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You can unmute yourself and wait to be sworn in.

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Ma'am, please identify yourself with the record.

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Spell your first and last name and your address, please.

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Give us your address.

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Ms. Barton, are you there?

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all right let's go down to clinton street oh here she is hello miss barton uh you need to unmute

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yourself nope can't hear you

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so you're unmuted but is the volume up on your device do you have a microphone

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if if miss barton isn't able to get her sound to work would you want to call and i'll put her

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on speakerphone she's been waiting why don't we do this well we'll wait we'll go to the last case

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and then come back again maybe we can have it straightened out by then all right okay thank

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We're going to go to Clinton Street.

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That's MI-2020-001170931 Clinton Street.

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I'm Primordi Vern Anastasio.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Vern Anastasio, good evening.

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Please identify yourself with the records.

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Spell your name for the stenographer.

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Good evening, sir.

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Vern Anastasio, 1315 Walnut, Suite 1006 Philadelphia, 19107.

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Good evening, sir.

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And do you swear and affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Of course, sir.

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Thank you.

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Do you agree to wait the reading of its refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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I also agree that I've sent out a package to the ZBA at least five days prior to this hearing.

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Wow.

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You keep it up.

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you're going to take my job see well that's what i'm doing great that's you know oh my goodness

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also have you met with the rco and have a letter i do it's all in the packet all in the packet

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you'll see you better give some thought to the fact that we don't get paid over time

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we don't get paid by the hours frank frank i'm gonna go as quickly as i possibly can okay

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Just to interrupt for just one minute, we also have a letter of non-opposition from Councilman Squilla.

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Thank you, Sharon.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, Frank, I'll go as quickly as I can.

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Four homes is what we're proposing here at 10th and Cyprus.

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It's behind 10th and Clinton's multifamily dwelling.

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They each have off-street parking, and we're here to discuss.

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let me let me pull this up if I can that's not what I wanted to hold on there it goes yep

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we're here for refusals for the multi-family dwelling again it's already on a piece of

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property that's a multi-family dwelling. We're just asking to add four single-family homes on

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Cypress Street. Cypress Street is a dead-end street. If you take a look here, you'll see

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what I mean. And I'll have Rustin walk through the project actually for you. But it's the rear

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part of Clinton, which I know the chairman is very familiar with. There's nothing going on

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on Cypress Street. These will be the only homes at front Cypress Street. It'll be a nice way to

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activate that space. And as you can see here, I think which is a great way to look at it,

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it's one, two, three, four homes along Cypress. The corner property will have a two-car garage

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The corner property will have a two-car garage, and then each home east of that corner property will have a one-car garage, and it'll certainly be a nice addition to the space, to the area, and we met with the community.

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and then

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Here's a drone look that I took.

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There'll be basically four homes in this area right here.

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We have, of course, we've met with the community more than once.

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And we met with the committee.

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And then we met with the general community.

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And we've got overwhelming support from Washington Square West Civic Association, all non-opposition.

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And of course, we've gotten a letter of support or non-opposition from Council Member Squilla, dated 18th October, just a few days ago.

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With that, I'm going to leave it up to Rustin if he wants to talk about the interior space, if you're interested.

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I'm not sure of that for the moment.

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Do you have anybody else to bring in?

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None other than I just ask that one of my clients raises his or her hand to be recognized.

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Why don't we go to your client first?

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Yeah, thank you.

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If one of the owners or partners can raise their hand to be recognized, I would appreciate that.

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Thank you.

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hello this is

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do you think who's please identify yourself for the record rafael licht r-a-p-h-a-e-l-l-i-c-h-t

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for the owner rittenhouse property associates llc thanks rafi

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Do you swear to the firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Thank you.

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Vernon, please proceed.

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Thanks, Frank.

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Rafi, could you put your address on the record, please?

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301A Catherine Street, Philadelphia, 19147.

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Rafi, did you hear my presentation to the board today?

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I did.

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Was it true and accurate to the best of your knowledge?

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Yes, it was.

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And would you adopt it as your own testimony?

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Yes, I do.

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That concludes my case tonight, Frank.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board?

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No.

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No. Would anyone else like to testify in this case? If so, please raise your hand.

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