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ZBA Hearing - June 17, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jun 17, 20267h 2m

19 West Loudoun Street.

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Joe, you are the attorney here?

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Yes, I am.

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If I may close out my exhibits on Goodman.

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Sure, sure.

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And whenever the board's ready.

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We're ready.

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Could you, just for the record, state your name?

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Joseph Vaccaro, V-A-C-C-A-R-O.

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Right, and could you identify your client,

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the relationship to this property?

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And I represent Vallecito, V-A-L-L-E-C-I-T-O-L-L-C. To my right, I have Camila Lopez. She's the member of the LLC.

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All right. And our vice chair has a few questions for you.

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Gladly.

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Good morning. Have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing?

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Yes, I have.

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And do you waive the reading of the refusal, simply to its accuracy?

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Yes, I do.

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Okay. All right. Thank you. You can begin this case. Okay. Thank you. I work from loud and civic association. Yes. Oh, that's the wrong exhibit. If I could stop sharing that, too.

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okay can you see some plans they're coming up okay just want to make sure that that we're showing

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the right uh the right plans and if i could zoom out so this is an application to permit four

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units by way of background this property was already consolidated 1117 and 1119

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they were already previously consolidated and at this point you were

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only permitted two units but we're putting in an application for four units

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It's, it's, if I could show you the plans of the four units first, on the first floor, on the first floor, there would be a 797 square foot apartment, which we're calling apartment 1L.

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that would have its own independent entry. You walk into a living room

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followed by a kitchen, one bedroom, a bathroom, and a second bathroom with a

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half bath and an exit door to the rear yard. There would be a second apartment

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consisting of 642 square feet with existing concrete steps. You have a foyer

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with two entries, one into the living room, a corridor that goes up to the

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second floor, another corridor to another kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, and a rear

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bedroom. Then we have the second floor, you come up the steps, entryway, there's a

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kitchen in the rear with a living and dining area, bedroom, bathroom, and a

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bedroom. That apartment consists of 797 square feet and the fourth apartment is

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581 square feet with again a bedroom, another bedroom, bathroom, and a kitchen

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another bedroom bathroom and a kitchen and a kitchen area and then there would

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and a kitchen area.

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be a balcony in the back I could do you see a Google Maps we do

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okay so here's a space a satellite view of the two properties 1117 and 1119 on

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Luden Street certificate of tax clearance close that out here's the

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front view of 1117 and 1119 my cursor is going over the two the two doorways

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another view if I could zoom out of here

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and another view of the two doors

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and finally another view of the two entrances from Luden Street

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Valle Cito had purchased the property on February of 2023. There's the deed.

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The refusal is that in a CMX-1, if the lot's not adjacent to a residential district and it's not,

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Two-family and multi-family household living is prohibited.

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Application for appeal.

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I could go down to the photographs.

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Or mailing to the near neighbors.

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photographs are further down a letter of meeting summary posting and

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with the old tax clearance and let me find the photos

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here are the photos of the property of the inside of the property

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the front

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there's currently there are only two units being occupied on the 1117 side only the first floor

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is being occupied there's a couple with one child and on the 1119 side there's the second floor

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that's being occupied by one individual two units remain unoccupied pending these proceedings

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here's the corridor

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restroom

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one of the bedrooms

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another view of the bedroom

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this is the staircase going up to the second floor

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Another view, restroom, kitchen area in the rear.

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Any questions from the board or from the community?

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We'll get to that.

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Are you going to have your testimony adopted?

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Okay.

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Yes.

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How long has he owned this, Joe?

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uh they've owned the property since they purchased it on let me find the the deed over here

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and what what was it when he bought it it already was like that um okay it already was like that

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they purchased it on 15th of february 2023 okay um miss lopez yeah uh you need to speak up so that

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so that way that the microphone can can hear us okay miss lopez hello

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he's going to put you under oath first your name and spell it for the stenographer

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state your name and spell for the stenographer they left louder camila francisca lopez c-a-m-i-l-a

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thank you lopez l-o-p-e-z thank you do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth

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nothing but the truth I do thank you counsel miss Lopez did you hear my

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presentation okay would you adopt it as your own if you were testifying okay and

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and uh is it true and accurate okay questions from the board

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is it true and accurate okay

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what is the plan for trash uh for the units storage the trash is uh already being stored

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in the rear of the building and then from the rear of the building there's an alleyway that

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leads to marshall street and and the trash and the trash bins are are they're on wheels in the

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back so they're taken out the back around marshall to the front of the house on

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Luden Street so does everyone have access to the rear correct the building

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correct how would the second floor get access to the rear I'll show you show

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you in the photos and in the plans actually right the second floor the

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second floor would have access um they they exit the building on loudon street they make a right

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onto marshall and then they make another right into the alley and that's where the trash bins are

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located so you have to walk out your building and go around the corner to dump your trash

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that's what they currently have okay can we can we have some interior trash storage for the second

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floor um we could make it work they can make it work that would be nice i think okay well i mean

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logistically logistically nobody's who does that you're gonna make somebody go from the second

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floor down to the corner around the corner walk through an alley and i'm looking at google and

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What's behind that building are a bunch of looks like abandoned cars to put their trash or to take their trash out.

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I think that's I think that's kind of sketchy to even an unsafe to have somebody even do that.

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The first floor unit. Can you go back to your floor plans again?

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Sure. I think we have sort of the same issue that we see a lot, which is that having to access a rear yard through a bedroom.

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on that first floor unit and the um the units uh living common living areas are just very very small

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where you've got 17 feet or 13 feet on one floor for a bedroom and then you've got for living and

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dining room probably about eight feet so it's just a just not a not a good um planned layout

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we could regroup with the um with the um architect uh to drop some plans for indoor

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transport that's fine yeah um and my question okay go ahead mike no i'm saying then there's

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a four six foot backyard and a chain link fence so you don't even show trash out there

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Great. Okay. And my question is, I mean, what is the real hardship here? And why do we have two bedroom units when, I mean, you say that your client found it this way when they purchased it, but it seems like we're really trying to stretch the limits here a little bit.

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Well, again, these are, these are two independent buildings that were already consolidated into one.

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Right, so it would have been allowed to have one unit each.

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So, so, or, or they would have been able to have one single family residence.

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Well, that single-family resident would be extremely large, given the size of the other houses on the block and in the neighborhood.

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That being your comment also, Ms. Gaston, about there being two bedrooms in each, whether there are one bedrooms or two bedrooms,

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Each apartment, what we're here for is to legalize and to permit two apartments on each side. One on the 1117 side, two apartments on the 1117 side, and two apartments on the 1119 side. So we're asking for four units.

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I understand.

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Okay.

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Anyone else in the board?

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questions or comments from our attorney not at this time mr chairman questions or comments

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from the virtual audience no hands at this time chair cleaning commission

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No hands at this time, Chair.

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Planning Commission.

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Thank you, Chair Sarabon, Philadelphia City Planning Commission.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the existing CMX1 commercial mixed-use zoning.

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The appellant has not supported their hardship claim with evidence of unique physical circumstances or conditions of the property.

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The City Planning Commission recommends that the Zoning Board deny the variance.

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mi 2025 zero zero six three nine three one eleven to nineteen west loudon street i vote no

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michael johns my vote is no charles gaston my vote is no tennetta graham my vote is no

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ryan mcadams my vote is no thank you council thank you all right number 13 mi 2025

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725-007-932-3616 Whit Street. Jermaine Harris is the attorney.

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Do we have an RCO letter yet on this?

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Okay, thank you.

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They're being promoted to panelists, Chair.

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Thank you very much.

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good morning morning uh i think you're something's wrong joe i mean jermaine try that again joe

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germane good morning morning morning morning you got in a second device anywhere there

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no log back off and then why don't you do that why don't you want to do that yeah i don't know

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what the problem is i hear i hear the vibration too yes yeah okay thank you okay thank you wow

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Jermaine he just dropped off I don't know he said he would come back in

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do we see him his hand anywhere

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they're currently in the attendees list, but they're not accepting any invites for me to

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promote the panelists. Hi, Jermaine. Yeah, they're declining to become a panelist.

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We'll come back to Jermaine. Mr. Chair, can I recommend that we go back to Naudain Street?

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um you most certainly can thank you thank you

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1528 nordane street mi 2026 000 223

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hello

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Jermaine, we're going to come back to you.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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You still got a background.

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It's another device with your name in the attendee audience.

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I'm not sure if that's your client or your second device.

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Okay.

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Good morning.

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good morning could you please you've already been sworn right could you please state your name

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Could you please, you've already been sworn.

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Allison Dubovsky okay um how is our computer I hope it's gonna want to share right now okay

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Okay, and here we go, here we go, share, here we go, do you see it?

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No.

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No.

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Ah, is that possible?

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I'll click share, and then tab, this one, share, is that, are we seeing 15?

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Okay, here we go. Thank you. Thank you for your patience. Okay. So this is our home where we do

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live. It is a duplex. We are zoned RM1. We live in the unit upstairs and we have been renting

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out the first floor unit for short-term rental for the past three years with the

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variance that we had received three years ago so we would just like to

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continue that usage you can see here we have a map of the property this is the

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street this is where we are located and this is the street view so you can see

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right here this is our door that you enter then once you go through that door

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where there are two separate doors for the two units.

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Some more pictures outside.

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This is the rental unit.

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It is a two bed, one bath, small kitchen,

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and a little outside patio.

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Let me just see some pictures, bathroom there,

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little patio in the back.

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And this is the entrance here.

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So that's that front door that we saw from the street,

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then straight on, that's the entrance to our home

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that we live in up the stairs and then to the right is the door where the guests will

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come in to stay and this is just the the notices that we had posted clear for everyone on the

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block to see again just more photos of that and yeah you can see from the outside here

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this these are the houses these are the homes on either side and then we do have this small

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alleyway where we do keep our trash so we have that as well and yep and that's about it that's

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that's what we have how many years have you had it so far so three years three years we have

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been running the the business um we have been very we ask everyone that stays to be very respectful

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to the neighbors and the neighborhood it is important to us that there are no

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issues as far as noise or garbage or anything like that and we are right

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there upstairs if we haven't had any issues you have the support of the

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center city residents too yes all right questions from the board

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questions or comments from our attorney no questions at this time from the

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virtual audience no hands at this time chair planning commission

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thank you sarah bond philadelphia city planning commission

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the comprehensive plan recommends no change from the rm1 residential

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multi-family zoning at this location the appellant has not supported their

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hardship claim with evidence of unique physical circumstances or

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conditions of the property the city planning commission recommends

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of the board deny the proposed variance for visitor accommodations thank you mi 2026 000

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223 1528 nordane street i vote yes with proviso temporary variance will expire 6 18 20 29.

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michael johnson my vote is yes with a proviso cheryl gaston my body chest with proviso

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Tenetta Graham, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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