civus
Hearing audio

ZBA Hearing - January 7, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 7, 20265h 58m

Good morning everyone. My name is Bill Bergman and I will be chairing the meeting of this

Similar wording

Philadelphia zoning board of adjustment. With me is our board vice chair Tanetta Graham.

Similar wording

President, Mr. Chairman.

Similar wording

Our Board Secretary, Sheila L. Gaston.

Similar wording

Present, Mr. Chairman.

Similar wording

Our Board Member, Michael Johns.

Similar wording

Present, Mr. Chairman.

Similar wording

Our Board Member, Taya Nguyen.

Similar wording

Present, Mr. Chairman.

Similar wording

And our Board Member, Ryan McAdams.

Similar wording

Present, Mr. Chairman.

Similar wording

Also here is our Board Attorney, Hillary Emerson, our Zoning Board Director, Ane Haggerty, and our Board Administrator, Lakeisha Dandy.

Similar wording

Recording of this hearing will be posted on the ZBA website.

Similar wording

By participating, you consent to be recorded.

Similar wording

This is an in-person meeting with remote capabilities, whether remote or in person.

Similar wording

If you're called to speak, you must state and spell your name and then wait to be sworn in.

Similar wording

Once you've been sworn in, please state your name each time before beginning your testimony.

Similar wording

Any person may enter their appearance to become an interested party in a case.

Similar wording

There are three ways to enter your appearance.

Similar wording

Identify the case property address on your Zoom webinar registration.

Similar wording

see a staff member or you can call the zba appearance line by the close of business tomorrow

Similar wording

call 267-270-5548 leave a message that includes your email address and the address of the property

Similar wording

of the appeal case following guidance is for remote attendees first when directed you must

Similar wording

raise your virtual hand in order to be recognized to speak second if you're called to testify you'll

Similar wording

be prompted to join as a panelist please accept the request and return on your camera third the

Similar wording

webinar Q&A is for questions about the hearing do not comment on cases in the Q&A and fourth if

Similar wording

you're participating by phone press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute for our in-person

Similar wording

attendees refrain from talking eating or drinking during the hearings verbal and physical aggression

Similar wording

will not be tolerated restrooms are across on the elevators a water fountain is just outside the

Similar wording

room to the right once speaking on the record you must speak directly into the microphone

Similar wording

in order to be heard by all attendees and the court reporter in the event of emergency please

Similar wording

follow the directions given over the public address system or by the staff the main exit

Similar wording

is through the double doors at the rear of the room the nearest stairwell is to the left outside

Similar wording

the doors in case of an evacuation and rally point is love park directly across art street

Similar wording

please remain here so we can account for you so let's look at our schedule for today

Similar wording

number four mi 2025 004 106 53 30 north penn street that case is continued to 6 17 26 at 9 30 a.m

Similar wording

number five mi 2025 004 109 1930 spark street that case is continued to 16 6 17 26 number six

Similar wording

MI 2025-004-110, 2736 North Dover Street.

Similar wording

That case is continued to 6-17-26 at 9.30 a.m.

Similar wording

Number 8.

Similar wording

MI 2025-004-115, 1141 West Somerset Street.

Similar wording

That case is continued, attorney moving party.

Similar wording

And number 16, MI 2025-007-195-6134 Rear to 46 Wayne Avenue.

Similar wording

That case is continued until 6-17-26 at 9.30 a.m.

Similar wording

Any other requests for continuances?

Similar wording

let me see here good morning mr chair this is jason hannah will be a close for this session

Similar wording

i have a hand up from janelle alford i will allow them to speak yeah okay

Similar wording

hello good morning do you do uh good morning hi your name it's spelled for the sonographer please

Similar wording

No problem. My first name is Janelle, J-E-N-E-L-L, last name.

Similar wording

No problem. My first name is Janelle, J-E-N-E-L-L, last name Alford, A-L-F-O-R-D.

Similar wording

I just have one. Hold on, hold on one minute.

Similar wording

Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

Similar wording

Absolutely. Yes. Could you tell me the case you're interested in?

Similar wording

The case that I'm interested in, it's at the street location 613 West Cortland Street in Philadelphia, PA, 191-401413.

Similar wording

There is a calendar number that is a reference to that, MI-2025-04116.

Similar wording

Yeah, well, tell me about the case.

Similar wording

oh well um just starting from the beginning or no no i mean are you okay is are you uh against

Similar wording

the project are you uh one of the owners no well at the moment i um was a tenant or um okay so

Similar wording

here's the thing this case will be coming up this morning that case will not be continued

Similar wording

so you'll have an opportunity to come on later and testify okay do you know when that will be

Similar wording

i just i would say um maybe an hour so around 11 o'clock ish so maybe a little bit before okay

Similar wording

thank you

Similar wording

is there any other requests for continuance yes sir i have a handle from susan ponson i've allowed

Similar wording

them to speak uh yes suzanne could you please state your name and spell it for the sonographer

Similar wording

suzanne s-u-z-a-n-n-e ponsen p-o-n-s-e-n i'm president of the uh rco west central germantown

Similar wording

neighbors hold on a minute do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the

Similar wording

truth? Yes, I do. What's the location? 6134 R-46 Wayne Avenue. Yeah, that case has been

Similar wording

continued. I understand. Okay. My question is, are we as neighbors able to see all the documents

Similar wording

that are involved in this case? And where would that be available? All right. Ms. Ponson,

Similar wording

um yes we need to direct that request to um zba to the zba executive director um zba executive

Similar wording

director at phila.gov if you would like to see documents related to the case this is an appeal

Similar wording

against lni so we will not be taking public testimony i understand i do understand okay

Similar wording

thank you very much is there anyone else in the audience

Similar wording

mr chair craig meladosian has their hand raised i have allowed them to speak

Similar wording

good morning craig c-r-a-i-g last name meladosian m-e-l-i-d-o-s-i-a-n do you swear or affirm to

Similar wording

tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do chair bergman what case craig

Similar wording

6901 Buist Avenue MI 2025 004 188 all right so we have no exhibits for that case I'm going

Similar wording

to get to that shortly thank you we'll be continuing the case okay is there anyone else

Similar wording

in the audience no further hands Mr. Chair okay so number 14 MI 2025 004 188 6901 Buist Avenue

Similar wording

We have no exhibits. This is the first listing. Darlene Treat is the attorney. Also,

Similar wording

Supplinder and Rahanjit Singh are the listed owners. First listing.

Similar wording

I do not see any hands raised for that matter, Mr. Chair.

Similar wording

So MI-2025-004-188-6901 Buist Avenue, this case is continued to 6-17-26 at 9.30 a.m.

Similar wording

Number 15, MI-2025-006-001-6327 Lambert Street.

Similar wording

Shellen Thomas is the listed owner.

Similar wording

It's a pro se.

Similar wording

This is the first listing, no exhibits.

Similar wording

no hands raised either for that medicine so mi 2025 006 001 6327 north lambert street

Similar wording

this case is continued to 6 17 26 and i have a few requests for withdrawal

Similar wording

26. And I have a few requests for withdrawal here. MI 2024-005-636-812 McKean Street. This case has been withdrawn.

Similar wording

And number 11, MI 2025-004-124, 1920 Shelmar Avenue, K-Ming XO is the listed owner.

Similar wording

We have a request for withdrawal, but we do not have any proper mechanism yet.

Similar wording

Are they in the audience?

Similar wording

it's a chair i do not see them in the audience this morning okay hillary we want to continue

Similar wording

this okay so uh we mi 2025 004124 1920 shellmar avenue this is continued to 6 17 21 mark must

Similar wording

be heard okay we're going to go to our add-on cases

Similar wording

MI 2024-006-699-2021, Stanton Avenue, I vote yes per amended refusal, dated August 12th, 2025.

Similar wording

Michael Johns, I certify that I watched the video recording of the December 16th, 2025 resumption hearing for this matter, and my vote is yes.

Similar wording

With proviso, Mr. Johns.

Similar wording

With proviso.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes, with proviso.

Similar wording

Taya Nguyen, my vote is yes, with proviso.

Similar wording

is that it okay number two mi 2024 001 941 53 15 to 17 chancellor street i vote no michael johns

Similar wording

my vote is now cheryl gaston my vote is no sonata graham my vote is no ryan mcadams my vote is no

Similar wording

Hi, I win. My vote is no. Number three, MI 2024-006-946-5773, Kimball Avenue. I vote no.

Similar wording

Michael Johns. My vote is no. Cheryl Gaston. My vote is no.

Similar wording

Tana Graham. My vote is no. Brian McAdams. My vote is no.

Similar wording

Hi, I win. My vote is no. Number four, MI 2025, 00436, 1216 South 2nd Street, I vote no.

Similar wording

Michael Johns, my vote is no. Cheryl Gaston, my vote is no.

Similar wording

Tanetta Graham, my vote is no. Ryan McAdams, my vote is no.

Similar wording

I win. My vote is no. We're going to go to our regular list. Number one, MI 2024-005-624-2068 East Ann Street. Elliot Perez Barrios is the owner. This is a pro se.

Similar wording

And Mr. Chair, we also have a Spanish interpreter present if the applicant needs assistance.

Similar wording

Okay. Thank you.

Similar wording

We can just go ahead and square them in.

Similar wording

I see they have their hand raised, the Spanish interpreter.

Similar wording

The interpreter, please state your name.

Similar wording

Spanish interpreter will be back in shortly.

Similar wording

Good morning, Your Honor. Good morning, everybody.

Similar wording

Good morning. Could you please state your name and spell for the sonographer?

Similar wording

Yes, Your Honor. My name is Leonel, spelled as in L-E-O-N-E-L. Last name is Gillen, spelled as in G-U-I-L-L-E-N.

Similar wording

Do you swear or affirm that you will interpret accurately, completely, and impartially from English to Spanish and from Spanish to English to the best of your ability?

Similar wording

I swear.

Similar wording

All right, could you please call for us Elliot Perez Berrios?

Similar wording

Está el señor Elliot Perez Berrios.

Similar wording

Sí, buen día, aquí estamos.

Similar wording

Yes, good morning, here I am.

Similar wording

All right, could you please have him state his name and spell for the stenographer?

Similar wording

Yes, Your Honor. Muy bien, ¿me puede decir su nombre y deletrearlo para el stenógrafo, por favor?

Similar wording

Yes, my name is Elliot, E-L-L-I-O-T, Elliot.

Similar wording

What's your name?

Similar wording

Pérez, P-E-R-E-Z, Pérez.

Similar wording

Pérez. P-E-R-E-Z. Pérez.

Similar wording

Gracias. Yes, my name is Elliot Pérez. Elliot spelled as an E-L-L-I-O-T. Pérez spelled as in P, as in Peter, E-R-E-Z.

Similar wording

Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth?

Similar wording

Levanta la mano derecha, por favor.

Similar wording

Pura decir la verdad y toda la verdad, nada más que la verdad.

Similar wording

The whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Similar wording

Toda la verdad y nada más que la verdad, ¿sí?

Similar wording

Toda la verdad.

Similar wording

Yes, I swear, the whole truth.

Similar wording

Okay, this application is for use as a two-family household living in an existing attached structure.

Similar wording

Sí, correcto, así es.

Similar wording

That is correct.

Similar wording

whereas the proposed use a two-family household living is prohibited in the rs5 zoning district

Similar wording

sin embargo esta propuesta establece que el uso de un hogar para dos familias está prohibido en

Similar wording

el en la zonificación en el rs5 de la ley de personificación

Similar wording

There's a letter of support from the Somerset Neighbors for Better Living.

Similar wording

Hay una carta de apoyo de parte de los vecinos de Somerset de Better Living.

Similar wording

And there's a letter of non-opposition from Council Member School.

Similar wording

Y también hay una carta de no oposición de los miembros del Consejo.

Similar wording

Our vice chair has a few questions.

Similar wording

Nuestro vice, nuestro vice encargado tiene unas cuantas preguntas.

Similar wording

Sí, está bien, sí.

Similar wording

Yes, very well.

Similar wording

Good morning.

Similar wording

Have they submitted their documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing?

Similar wording

Buenos días.

Similar wording

¿Ya ingresaron los documentos y exhibiciones cinco días previos a esta reunión?

Similar wording

Sí.

Similar wording

Yes.

Similar wording

And do you waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

Similar wording

Puede comenzar con su caso.

Similar wording

So turn the computer on.

Similar wording

there should be a green button at the bottom

Similar wording

there it goes, very good, thank you

Similar wording

very good, thank you

Similar wording

I want to have him start telling us what it is he wants to do

Similar wording

ok, if you like, can you start telling us what it is he wants to do?

Similar wording

Yes, my name is Eliott Perez and I am the owner of the property 2068 East Entry, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19134.

Similar wording

The property was bought on December 5th of 2012.

Similar wording

Yes, hello, my name is Elliot Pérez. I am the owner of the property at 2068 East Entry in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 19134. The property was purchased on December 5th, 2012.

Similar wording

Okay, so first thing, could you make your exhibits a little bigger so we could see them?

Similar wording

You can make your exhibition a little bigger,

Similar wording

make the exhibits bigger.

Similar wording

For that you can see.

Similar wording

Yes.

Similar wording

Yes.

Similar wording

Your Honor, can I instruct them on the little loop?

Similar wording

Sure, why do you do that?

Similar wording

Yes.

Similar wording

Yes.

Similar wording

Yes.

Similar wording

In the lower part, there will be a loop with a more and a less symbol.

Similar wording

Va a haber una lupita con un símbolo más y uno menos.

Similar wording

Abajo, abajo, abajo, abajo, abajo, abajo, abajo.

Similar wording

Aquí.

Similar wording

Ahí, ese mero. Sí. Delete, click.

Similar wording

Hola. Ok. Ahora sí lo ven.

Similar wording

Can you read it here?

Similar wording

Ahora sí.

Similar wording

That's better.

Similar wording

Está mejor.

Similar wording

Gracias.

Similar wording

Veamos los documentos primero.

Similar wording

the next document okay vemos ahí la parte de la transferencia de impuestos que de la propiedad

Similar wording

sigamos a la siguiente oh my god duplication

Similar wording

move it move the documents up

Similar wording

your honor if you want to can instruct on how to do it um

Similar wording

with the just point

Similar wording