ZBA Hearing - July 17, 2024

attached roofs or stairs that's not to say that they that i haven't seen them i'm just saying

that the whole neighborhood does it yeah and then the request is to put in a spiral staircase

not questioned what kind of stairs doesn't you know for this i'm not making it uh you know the

escape it is a second uh means of weight of egress but it is not the fire escapes there so

it can be any any form i think she said spiral you're putting in a spiral staircase i am putting

the spiral staircase because it takes the least room and i want them to be able to use as much as

possible of that space as they're kind of and cheryl apparently cheryl she started to put it in

And Ellen and I came out and stopped her and said, you need a variance.

Okay.

And then did you say that your tenant had small children?

The one on the second floor?

My tenant in the past had small children.

So for me, you know, thinking about like if they're adults and there is a fire and they have to escape through the kitchen on the second floor.

I mean, we somehow, although I'm not comfortable with that, you know, as Ellen and I, people will say, well, you have the door, you just, you know, that's it.

You jump.

Maybe we jump if it's absolutely necessary.

But if you have a child and they have little children, well, will we be jumping with children?

Because I am the one who cannot have the stair and everybody else can have this kind of saying from up, down or down up.

Well, I guess my question is, are you saying currently that you have a tenant with small children that would be using this spiral staircase?

Who would be using this?

Currently, I don't.

Currently, I don't.

But I had tenants in the past.

I had no issues whatsoever with, you know, code and LNI until I started doing this.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Anyone else on the board?

questions questions for our attorney hillary emerson not at this time mr chair questions

or comments from the virtual audience i see no hands at this time chair planning commission

thank you chairman and good evening david pecto with the city planning commission

chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the rsa5 residential

single-family zoning at this location the appellant has shown that the proposed stairs will match the

character of the block and will not injure the use of adjacent properties the city planning

commission recommends the board grant their proposed use variants for stairs from the ground

to the deck mi 2024 001 166 4917 pine street i vote yes michael johnson my brother's yes

Sonata Graham, my vote is yes

James Snell, my vote is yes

Cheryl Gaston, my vote is no

Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes

Thank you, ma'am, you have your votes

Is there anyone in the virtual audience whose case has not been called?

I see no hands at this time too

Thanks, everyone

We've had a long, long day, got a lot of work done, but we had some complicated cases, especially a little bit later today.

So I do appreciate what everybody did and all your support.

And thanks to everybody.

I'll see everybody next week.

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, staff.

Thank you.

And thank you to the staff.

We're sorry we kept you so long.

You know, we try to get you out as quick as we can, but this day was special.

I'm not even going to call.

I usually call Hillary every time afterwards.

I'm not calling her tonight.

I'll hold you to that, Bill.

Have a good night, everyone.

Bye.