A little bit.
hello hello yeah i think it did yeah i think it did uh uh oh no there's a delay on your computer
i don't know what to do about that or okay so i can step in here this is
why don't we do this why don't we do this um
Joe, you're an officer of the court. Because of the situation, you can testify forever. Am I correct?
If I can, then yes, I will.
You seem to be able to do it. Okay. Questions from the court.
Questions from our attorney?
Not at this time, Mr. Chair.
Questions or comments from the virtual audience?
do not see any hands mr chair planning commission
addison matera planning commission staff the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the
existing rsa 3 residential single family zoning at this location this property has a documented
history of two families the planning commission recommends the board grant the request variance
for two family household living mi 2026 000 855 1664 conklin street i vote yes
michael johnson my vote is yes
thank you counsel thank you board all right cindy i'll give you a call bye all right is
there anyone in the audience who um case has not been called from the two o'clock list
i do not see any hands raised okay we're going to take a five minute break and then we'll
come back and finish, okay? Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Bill Bergman, and I will
be chairing this meeting of the Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment. With me is our
Board Secretary, Shoal Gaston. President, Mr. Chairman. Board members, Michael Johns.
He'll be on any minute. Taya Nguyen. President, Mr. Chairman. And Ryan McAdams. President,
present mr chair also here is our attorney hillary emerson
Also, here is our attorney, Hilary Emerson, our zoning board director.
our zoning board director ian haggerty and our board administrator lakeisha dandy
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let's look at our schedule for this afternoon there's nobody here in person um number one
number one mi 2025
0 0 7 1 8 3 24 35 to 37 east vang ven venico street wow okay um this is a continuance my
correct hillary okay this case will be continued to 9 16 26 at 3 30 pm next case number two
this is withdrawal number two
oh five five i got five okay never mind i'm sorry i went to the two
MI-2025-007-392-2232 Latonia Street. This case has been withdrawn.
And number six, continuance. MI-2025-007-410-310 Moore Street. This case has continued until
9 16 26 at 3 30 p.m mark must be heard we're going to go to case number two is that what andrew
and mr share we received updated documents in case number two that is ready to proceed
yep okay thank you number two mi 2025 007 314 1949 devereux avenue um min nego is the attorney
yeah this is jason handle will be a calls for the session i have a hand up
you're welcome sir i have a hand up from a tanya solomon let's see if she's related
why don't we bring everyone and see if she's part of that understood
maybe the attorney's with her
good afternoon good afternoon good afternoon is counsel there yes all right counsel could you
please state your name and spell it for the stenographer min m-i-n-h-v uh nugent m-g-u-y-e-n
right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth
yes could you identify your client the relationship to the property
could you identify your client the relationship to the property
my client is miss tanya sulliman she is a lease or of the property right
dc i'm sorry the owner no she's the lisi okay are you okay sorry um i do have a letter of
unanimous support from the rco and also i see a letter from council member lazada
yes our uh vice chair has i'm not a vice chair our secretary has a few questions for you uh good
afternoon counsel did you submit your documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing
good afternoon uh board secretary my client tanya did submit the documents five days before hearing
and uh do you waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy
yes then you may share your screen and proceed with your presentation
hey join as a panelist it's joining right now as a panelist they'll be back in shortly
good afternoon uh steam council members are you seeing my screen no sir
are you seeing the screen now we see you now sir yes what is the screen shared council uh esteemed
council members okay yes we see you and your your client i guess right let me share the screen again
yeah did you click the share screen button the green button at the bottom
i did but let me redo it it may ask you to select what you wish to share whether it's your screen
or a particular document or window okay there we go there we go okay so let's go to this
um esteemed council my client is requesting a limited zoning release to permit a small group
child care use with a maximum of 12 children at the property um she's not requesting an intense
commercial operations she's requesting a moderate community center daycare operation
in the building that has already been uniquely situated to the exact type of use
the evidence from the board shows before the board shows that this property is not
a typical dwelling residential dwelling the property historically has operated as a dental office
the photographs that we submitted clearly demonstrate that the property has long
functioned in the community serving manner and physically resembles a small professional office
rather than a traditional single-family residence then show you some so Council here we have all
your documents yes do this why don't you go to the photos so when you're talking about it we
see what the photos look like okay okay so here's the photos of
yeah it's a long one sorry councilman oh no take your time
here's the other photos this is the drawing uh survey of the property architectural um
this is the photo of the the property it's a it's a corner unit it's attached to the resident rs5a
right it's always been in use as a dental office
this is the photo of its original use right do you want me to go back to that picture
so that original use that's the property she's going to have the daycare is that right
Do you have pictures inside of there?
Yes, a couple pictures of the inside.
Right now she's not operating, but this is a picture of the inside.
Right, right.
And that was a dental office at one time.
Yes, it was.
And then I think I saw you have drawings of this, right?
Why don't you show the architectural drawings?
here's the architectural drawings of the property as you can see this
the property is semi-detached from the residential area
the property is semi-detached from the residential area
but so why don't you go back and just let people take it in a little bit okay so
and it'll only be in that part of it not into the house right it just stays there
yes okay okay
this is the notice of refusal let's go back up to the notice of refusal
Well, we counsel, we've already seen your notice of refusal.
OK, so we have so she wants to have 12 children in there.
Am I correct? You say that? Yes. Yes, sir.
She runs one now. She does have another business.
Yes. That as a daycare. Yes.
OK, so how long has she done that? Give us an idea of their experience.
I've been in business now for over 17 years.
started from a family on up i know one let me do this why don't why don't i could you state your
name and spell for the sonographer and i'll swear you in yes solomon t is in time a is an apple n
is in nancy y is in yo-yo a is an apple solomon s is in sam o is an orange l is in larry o is an
orange m is in mary o is an orange n is in nancy you swear or affirm to tell the truth to hold
truth nothing but the truth yes so council one question her about what her experience has been
and things like that um miss solomon do you agree that you've been in the child care professions
for over 15 years yes um how do you feel about working with the community um i've actually worked
close with our council people in the community as far as book bag giveaways. Not only have we
been trained to do CPR, we are certified to train other facilities to do it.
So, Ms. Solomon, the community, you have signatures from the community. Can you explain that?
Yes. So, what we did when we decided in the location that we wanted to put this,
We saw the need for a daycare. There is not oversaturated. There was a need for it there.
So what we did, we went to the businesses that's already in the area and we spoke to several of our neighbors.
And with the zoning signs and everything going up, we actually got a waiting list now for the facility.
How many neighbors signed the petition to help you?
We have over 50. The RCO also contacted and we got 30 more supporters.
Do you also have support from the councilwoman? Can you explain that a little bit?
Yes, we spoke to Councilman Lizardo, who was also in support of the facility going there.
Now, could you answer this? Is she going to have to do work inside that property?
there's nothing to be done only thing we had to do was paint um the walls everything else is there
is already handicap accessible um in a daycare facility with 12 children you only need one
handicap bathroom we actually have um not only a handicap bathroom we have um another bathroom
there okay all right questions from the board yes what's the plan for play spaces for the
there's a huge yard out front it's a huge yard already fenced then there are also barriers I
guess they put extra barriers around there um because it is a corner property they put extra
barriers around the fencing okay um and then are you going to do anything or is it just going to
be the yard as is I can't hear you are you going to add anything or is it just the yard as is
um well we um not adding anything um ridiculous like we would have some toys and stuff that we
would put out there and then what's your plan for drop off um there's um drop off and pick up
there's parking spaces in the back of the building there's um off street parking not only is it
parking on Devereaux. There's also parking on Busselton Avenue. Okay. So you have exclusive
exclusive use for the parking lot that's attached to the commercial? Yes. Okay. Yes.
use for the parking lot that's attached to the commercial building? Yes.
And then how many employees are you planning to have on site at any given time? Two full-time,
one part-time. Okay. Other questions? Yes. What age children are we talking about here?
Infancy to school age. So it'll be a mixed use with it being 12 children is considered a mixed
use for a group and there are no steps in this no steps no okay and uh how many restrooms did you
say one handicap and one regular size bathroom okay and then uh i think even with um with there
being no steps um do you have sufficient means of ingress and egress for this property we can't
hear you do you have uh sufficient ingress and egress you need like yes there's a front entrance
and a back entrance okay and uh yeah generally you have to have you know the upgraded fire
protection system for um children who are not capable of self-preservation which yes it's a
fire system already in the building okay and uh door with panic bars so that folks can get out
yes okay all right thank you any other questions questions from our attorney
not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the virtual audience
i do not see any hands mr chair planning commission madison matera planning commission
staff the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the existing rsa5 residential single
family zoning at this location the appellant has shown that there are unique physical conditions
or circumstances of the property that would prevent it from conformance with the zoning code
the planning commission recommends the board grant the proposed variance for group child care
hillary what do you want to do for defining where it's at
so yeah so i was going to ask because this this is this is like an adjacent almost like wing of
another row house is is this specifically set out as like a separate
suite or anything like that I'm just trying to determine location I mean we
could say ground floor found for addition yes we could say ground floor
addition does the applicant or their council have any feedback on specifying location council we
have it down as ground floor also ground floor okay yes all right so you just say i think just
just say ground floor that'll be okay thank you mi2025 007 314 1949 devereau avenue i vote yes
with proviso ground floor michael johns my vote is yes with proviso cheryl gaster my vote is yes
with proviso ryan mcadams my vote is yes with proviso tya win my vote is yes with proviso
thank you counsel thank you esteemed panel thank you very much good luck good luck thank you bye
number three mi 2025 0 0 7 3 3 3 7 34 to 42 samson street darlene treat is the attorney
unanimous support from washington square west and a letter of non-opposition from
council member squilla there's also a petition of 29 signatures
good afternoon hi council chairman darling on behalf of the applicants could you please state
your name and spell it for the stenographer my name is arlene d-a-r-l-e-n-e last name freight
t as in thomas h-r-e-a-t-t do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but
the truth yes i do would you identify your client the relationship to the property uh my clients
today uh ashkar and val patel our board secretary has a few questions good afternoon council did
you submit your exhibits and documents five days in advance of this hearing yes i did i did receive
the community letter today and i only uploaded that today and uh do you waive the reading of
And do you waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?
the refusal and stipulate to
And you can share your screen and begin your presentation.
Thank you.
Can you see my screen?
Yep, we have it.
Great.
Good afternoon.
I'm Caroline III, and I'm representing the Patels today.
Actually, the official address is 734 to 42 Sampson Street.