mr chair they'll be coming back in as a panel shortly thank you
Sure, there are going to be 20 children.
Dr. Presley?
Hi, Dr. Presley.
Could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer?
Yep, sure.
So is Dr. Essence Allen Presley, and the last name is A-L-L-E-N hyphen P-R-E-S-L-E-Y.
You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Please proceed, counsel.
Hey, Dr. Presley, how are you?
I'm good. How are you?
I'm good. Did you hear my presentation to the board this afternoon?
And can you verify that it was true and correct to the best of your knowledge?
And would you adopt a testimony as if it were your own?
Yes. Could you find out how many students again and what are the hours?
Yes, the number of students can be 20 students with 14 teachers.
And the hours of operation are 830 to 230 Monday through Friday.
And you'll use the entire property?
We will use the entire property, but we're a multi-service nonprofit.
So we also have a Pennsylvania Department of Labor registered apprenticeship.
So we do other things that train adults on how to work with children that have disabilities, children that are autistic.
train adults on how to work with children that have disabilities, children that are autistic,
and children that are nonverbal. So you'll use all that throughout the property, you're saying?
Throughout the property, correct. But we, sorry. Will the children be kept separate?
The children will be kept separate. So they'll have their own room just because of the nature
of children with disabilities and a lot of precautions that we take. So their room will
be separate from other spaces used in the building, correct?
All right.
Questions from the board.
I guess I'm trying to figure out how does this work?
You said your hours are 8.30 to 2.30.
Aren't those usually regular school hours?
And how does your program work with the schools, with these students?
Yeah, so we're a bit different.
So we're considered early childhood special education.
So we do run traditional, we run a school district schedule just because we're contracted through the various entities with the city and the school district.
So our programs would never go past three o'clock, but our specific hours are from 2.30.
We don't operate on weekends and we don't operate on holidays either.
So we're a little bit different than a traditional child care program because we specialize with children with disabilities, children that are autistic and children that have developmental delays that are specifically identified through the state's early intervention system.
Okay. All right. And then what age?
We're three to five.
Three to five. Ah, okay. All right. Thank you.
Are the hours the same for the training that you provide?
So for our, no, so for the registered apprenticeship, so it's a day program and it's an evening program.
Our evening program tends to be hybrid just because we have apprentices that can be from all over the state.
So they tend not to be on site in the evening just because of the nature of where they're coming from.
but we usually do not operate a lot of evening programs we do do stuff for families
just because they do have non-verbal children so we do family activities and things like that but
we still try to keep that during the day just because our families have restraints on when
they can get out and when they can do things with with their children and also work-life balance
how do you how are you uh organizing pick up and drop off and separation of those uh different
folks when they're coming in and going out of the building and are there separate entrances or
how does it work yep so we do have separate entrances pick up and drop off is primarily
handled by the school district because we're their contractors so the buses um would would
still once we get approval determining, but we come to the front, it is already permit parking
there or they actually can come on the property and park and load the kids just because they
require assistance loading on the vehicle and getting strapped in. As far as staff and things
like that, it's about four entrances to the building. So staff usually does use another
entrance just because of the care that's needed to load kids on the bus and off the bus or for
parents picking up to load them load them off strap them in and allow them you know to bid on
their way and you're you're and i was really specifically um the speaking to your the other
program that you have the train the trainee program how the where do they enter are they
entering from the same entrance of the kids how is that how do you how do you separate those
so they would
they would enter through the front
of the building and usually
they are not usually
in the building at the same time
that the school is operating
just because it would just be over simulation
all right thank you
any other questions for the board
questions or comments from our attorney
Hillary Emerson
so is there
parking on
like on the property itself yes parking okay do you know about okay so that that was a parking
okay so about how many spaces um it's about six we haven't black blinded but it was about six or
seven that could fit on there comfortably um with being able to get in and get out and not
interfering or blocking someone else in okay there i mean um there may be if you set up set up parking
spaces there may be some other things that that you need to do just uh with that number of spaces
just so you know other requirements you may need to meet so um just wanted to to make you aware of
that you are required to to have parking so it's rsa3 um and it would be based on the square footage
And it would be based on the square footage of the building, based on your use, I believe, like one space per 1000 square feet of the educational facilities use. But if you have that many spaces, they that will probably need to be reviewed under another permit application.
of the building based
Okay, I'll speak to the attorneys about that. But yes.
Okay, questions or comments from the audience, virtual audience?
Mr. Chair, I do not see any further hands raised for the matter.
Planning Commission.
The comprehensive, Madison Matera Planning Commission, the comprehensive plan recommends no change from the RSA 3 residential single family zoning at this location.
The appellant has shown that the proposed educational facility will have no detrimental impacts beyond what might be expected.
The City Planning Commission recommends that the board grant the proposed special exception for an educational facility.
Thank you. MI 2024-007-168-5024 North Penn Street, I vote yes.
My vote is yes.
Charles Gaston, my vote is yes.
Tynetta Graham, my vote is yes.
Ty Owen, my vote is yes.
Thank you, counsel.
Thank you, guys.
Is there anyone in the audience whose case, 330 case, has not been called?
Mr. Chair, I do not see any hands raised.
Thank you very much.
And I'll remind everybody the sun's out shining and we're not getting out of here late.
And it's not going to be cold waiting for transportation.
It's springtime.
Thanks, everybody.
Thank you.