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Committee Hearing, June 10, 2004 (part 1)

Minutes from Philadelphia City Council Committee Hearings, Jun 10, 2004

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Councilman Nutter

Okay.

Councilwoman Tasco

What I have says Capital Program.

Mr. Mcpherson

What you have is instead of deleting and putting the whole page, it just tells you what lines and what the funding source is.

Council President Verna

It is the Capital Program. Can I have a copy of that? It has been moved and seconded that the amendment to Bill 040602 be adopted. All in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Council President Verna

Those opposed? Do we want a roll call on this one too? What's your pleasure? Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. 36 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING

Council President Verna

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. 5

Council President Verna

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman DiCicco.

Councilman Dicicco

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. 37 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. 5

Council President Verna

Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. 14

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. 17

Council President Verna

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Verna. Aye. The vote is 11-6, and the amendment 38 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING is adopted. Again, the Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. I move that Bill No. 040602, as amended, be reported out of Committee with a favorable recommendation, and furthermore that the Rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first consideration at our last Session of Council. (Duly seconded.)

Council President Verna

It has been moved and properly seconded that Bill No. 15 040602 be reported out of Committee with a favorable recommendation, as amended, also a recommendation that the Rules of Council be suspended so as to permit consideration at our next Session of Council. Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. 22

Council President Verna

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. 25

Council President Verna

Councilman 39 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman DiCicco.

Councilman Dicicco

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. 22

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. 25

Council President Verna

Councilman 40 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. 10

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. 13

Council President Verna

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Verna. Aye. The votes are 11 to 6, and the motion carries. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell regarding Bill No. 040603.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Madam 41 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING President, I move that the amendment to Bill 3 No. 040603 be adopted. (Duly seconded.)

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded that the amendment just offered be adopted. All in favor will signify by saying aye. (Aye.)

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (No response.)

Council President Verna

The ayes have it, and the amendment is adopted. The Chair again recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Is this for a vote count?

Council President Verna

Yes.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. 22

Council President Verna

Nobody --

Councilman Kenney

This is roll call on the amendment, right?

Council President Verna

We voted 42 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING the amendment. I think we're making things very confusing. An amendment was introduced. It was voted upon. A motion has now been made on the bill as amended -- well, I think we have to start all over again. And I wish people would pay attention. It's just getting too confusing to keep going back. Councilwoman Blackwell, I would ask you to please offer your amendment one more time.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Madam President, I move that the amendment to Bill 15 No. 040603 be adopted. (Duly seconded.)

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded that the amendments be adopted. Roll call. Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. 22

Council President Verna

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. 25

Council President Verna

Councilman 43 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman DiCicco.

Councilman Dicicco

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. 22

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. 25

Council President Verna

Councilman 44 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. 10

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. 13

Council President Verna

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Verna. Aye. The votes are 11 to 6. The bill is amended. Again, the Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, 45 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING Madam President. I move that Bill No. 040603, as amended, be reported out of Committee with a favorable recommendation, and also that the Rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next Session of Council. (Duly seconded.)

Council President Verna

It has been moved and properly seconded that Bill No. 10 040603 be reported out of Committee with a favorable recommendation, as amended; further that the Rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next Council Session. All in favor will indicate by saying aye. (Aye.)

Council President Verna

Those opposed?

Councilman Mariano

Roll call.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. 24

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. 46 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman DiCicco.

Councilman Dicicco

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. 17

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. 19

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. 25

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman 47 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. 4

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. The ayes are 11, the nays are 6. The Chair again recognizes Councilman Nutter regarding Bill 040607.

Councilman Nutter

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, if I could have Sergeant-at-Arms assistance, I have amendments to Bill 040607.

Council President Verna

Does everyone have a copy of Councilman Nutter's amendment to this bill? (Pause.)

Councilman Nutter

Madam Chair.

Council President Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Madam Chair, I 48 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING know there are other amendments around for Bill 040607. It's probably easier to distinguish between the amendments by the ones that were just handed out by the Sergeant-at-Arms do not have the City seal on them or the printed City of Philadelphia at the top. And the first rate on the wage tax January 1, 2005 through December 31, 2005 is being amended to 2.831. That's the version that I'm working from. I'd like to put on the record Madam Chair that this proposed amendment does change the rates of the bill as it was introduced, but I believe most importantly, similar to the recommendation from the Tax Reform Commission on January 1, 2015 the resident wage tax rate would be 3.25 which is the same ending number as the schedule of the Tax Reform Commission. Obviously, the rates are changed within, but it still reaches in 10 years the goal of the resident wage tax goal of 3.25. As I said again last time we were talking about this particular bill, it does take away the trigger mechanism Bill 92 from a couple years as well 49 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING as with the cooperation of Councilman Mariano the other triggering mechanism related to real estate taxes. Having said that, unless there are any questions I'd like to move the adoption of the amendment as circulated by the Sergeant-at-Arms to Bill 040607.

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded that the amendment be adopted. Roll call vote.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman Blackwell. These would be to the amendments that were offered by Councilman Nutter on Bill 15 040607.

Councilwoman Blackwell

I think I'm voting no. 18

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. 20

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman DiCicco.

Councilman Dicicco

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye. 50 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. 11

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. 13

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. 19

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. 22

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye. 51 06/10/04 - WHOLE - PUBLIC MEETING

Mr. Mcpherson

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye.

Mr. Mcpherson

to 6. The 6 amendment passes. 7

Council President Verna

The 8 amendment is adopted. 9 Again, the Chair recognizes 10 Councilman Mariano. 11

Councilman Mariano

Thank you, Madam President. I would like to make a motion for amendments for Bill 040607 which delete the previous amendments and add these amendments.

Council President Verna

Very well. Are you making a motion for the adoption?

Councilman Mariano

I make a motion to amend that bill.

Council President Verna

Councilman Clarke, did you want to be recognized?

Councilman Clarke

Yes, Madam President. I actually wanted to speak briefly prior to the votes on the amendments.