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ZBA Hearing - July 9, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 9, 20256h 49m

to the rear and the new addition of the second and third floor on top of the distributor

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as well as a fourth store story addition

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This is the letter of unanimous support from RAH Civic Association, which hosted an in-person

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meeting at St. James School on June the 14th, 20 community members attended, everyone voted

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in support of the project. I know the owners want to thank in particular Ms. Rosalie Cooper.

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I know the owners want to thank in particular Ms. Rosalie Cooper for convening near neighbors

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on that row home block to discuss and collaborate on the project.

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Here are some of their signatures.

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The signatures also include some of the business owners across the street in support of this

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project.

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And to summarize this presentation, Mr. Chair, members of the board, for the reasons I've mentioned, the neighbors have been very supportive because of the owner's direct involvement in the business and in the management of these rental units, as well as the community-driven design.

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We submit that this requested relief of a long landlocked mixed use building has never and cannot strictly conform with the ICMX based zoning district requirements, but that this relief is minimally modifying and beneficial, not adverse investment in the neighborhood's character congestion.

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health and safety, adjacent properties, public facilities, and built environment, all as

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per the code, and as underscored by the community's support of this application.

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And with that, I'd love to call up the owner, Mr. Masiri, to adopt and affirm my testimony.

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And they will be coming in. Yep. They will be coming in now as a panelist.

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and he's available chair okay sir could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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yes anthony massiri first name a-n-t-h-o-n-y last name massiri m-a-s-c-i-e-r-i do you swear

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or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do please proceed

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counseling good afternoon mr massiri how are you good thank you uh have you heard the entirety of

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my testimony to the board this afternoon yes i have and the information i provided to the board

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is it true and accurate to the best of your knowledge yes and would you now adopt and affirm

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my testimony as your own. Yes, I do. Thank you very much. Eric, just out of curiosity, could you

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show me where the nine unit, how do you get the nine units? Tell me, tell me that.

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Sure. Three units on each floor. So three on the second, third, and fourth floor. I'm sorry,

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one bedrooms in the front. I think I glossed over that. And the rear studio space in the middle,

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all with those nice

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lighting through the

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So everything is one bedroom?

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Six

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one bedrooms, three studios. The studios

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are in the middle. Okay, I got it.

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Okay. This is the second and third floor.

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This is the fourth floor

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right here.

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Okay.

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Questions from the board.

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Yeah, where is the trash? How is the

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trash managed, going to be managed

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for all those units? Yes.

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So the trash is located in the first-floor commercial space right off of the rear stairwell.

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The trash for this building is already regularly serviced three times a week by Radix Property

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Group's commercial provider.

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Radix owns about 200-some properties locally in Philadelphia.

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and has been using this servicer because of the existing ground floor commercial.

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But you're adding like a multiple, several more units.

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So is that trash space going to be large enough

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or are they going to have to increase their trash pickups?

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So this trash room is, as well as the rear stairwell and egress,

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is newly designed here to specifically accommodate the nine units in ground floor.

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I believe. So the previous units, the units that are already there won't be able to use it like.

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No, they will all be able to use it.

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No, they will all be they will all be able to use it. There was. I guess my question is, is it going to be large?

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I guess my question is, is it going to be large enough because you're adding more units to the building?

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So with this trash space, is it going to be large enough to accommodate all the units?

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So we do have our design professional, Ben Estepani, on the line.

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Ben designed this trash room with this unit count in mind.

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It wasn't there previously.

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I do believe Anthony and his team have also discussed, if necessary, increasing the regularity of trash service from three times per week.

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But Ben's best equipped to speak to the dimensions, if we can bring him on.

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Ben, can you raise your hand in the virtual audience?

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And he'll be rejoining us shortly as a panelist.

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And while he's on, I guess adding to the question from board member Graham,

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Is there space for trash storage in the units, particularly the studios, where you're not going to have much?

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I'm curious, too, when Ben gets on, how big are the studios?

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Yeah.

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Studios are 337 square feet.

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kind of hard to without a without a sort of symbolic layout it's hard to

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yeah so um do i need to be sworn in first all right could you could you please state your name

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and spell for the stenographer sure first name ben last name estepani e-s-t-e-p-a-n-i

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do you affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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Yes.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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All right.

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Good afternoon, Ben.

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How are you this afternoon?

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I'm good, Erica.

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Ben, can you describe the plan for trash storage and collection for both the residential and commercial units of this property, as well as the design and dimensions of the trash storage and the ground floor?

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yeah so every unit will have access to the trash um it's accessible through that second means of

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ear grass at the rear um so you go down the stairway exit that door into that roll-up

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garage door essentially area for the trash room um we enclosed it just in case bad weather like

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that trash doesn't get distributed all through that back alleyway so it's enclosed

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just for further weather protection as far as unit layouts for the studio the intent

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would be since they're all identical as you walk in as you face that door would be essentially

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an efficiency layout along the party wall for refrigerator stove sink dishwasher

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There is, and then the plan would be that living and bedroom area adjacent to the light well, and we'd be able to fit in a small trash closet essentially in that corner where you almost see the green outline in front of the,

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in front of each egress stairwell

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to fit a small two-by-two closet in there for a trash room,

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assuming the studio wouldn't make as much trash

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as one of the one-bedroom units.

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So efficiency kitchen along the party wall,

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open floor plan for the living room,

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bedroom towards the light well,

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and then having a closet in that kind of left bottom corner of the studio.

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Mr. Chair, if I may, if we still have Mr. Massiri up on the screen,

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if I may ask him a follow-up question.

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Sure.

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Mr. Massiri, do you have anything to add to Mr. Estepani's testimony

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about the trash rooms including um your experience uh servicing um

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apartments uh buildings of this nature and particularly studios of this dimension

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and the trash configuration here.

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and the trash configuration here yeah absolutely trash from that side

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Trash from that size would be more than adequate.

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We could easily fit six 96-gallon cans in there.

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And what you do is you just increase the frequency of the trash collection.

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So we go through this when we lease up buildings.

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We'll start off with two cans, and then as the building leases up,

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we keep adding another can until it's at full capacity.

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Then we kind of assess.

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We listen to our tenants.

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um we you know we service all our properties weekly we're there all the time so we can see

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how the trash room is being used if it's overflowing and then we can adjust the frequency

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of the pickups from two days a week to three to four as needed to properly service the building

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so can i ask this question and so each floor you have three with three

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all the way going up you have the

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smaller units. Had you thought of two on each floor

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to make it like two fairly nice sized units?

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Or is it just, is it an economic issue or do you

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think there's a need for the studios? Well, it's certainly

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an economic issue. We don't like having buildings with too many studios.

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We certainly like to stay

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away from for example trying to like we thought about proposing an additional floor but we wanted

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to be uh kind of sensitive and aware of the neighborhood we didn't want to build as high

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as the or propose to build as high as the storage facility next door so we thought the studios would

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be a nice product mix to be able to to rent to people um slightly more affordable um it is a high

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traffic part of the neighborhood um so we do think studios there would be you know a

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successful and and a good sort of product to offer and so what are the size of the other two

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apartments they're about 600 square feet each which is a very good 600 each yeah and then and

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then you have three something for the studio in the middle correct yeah okay other questions from

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the board. Yes. Are we missing a floor plan? Are there four stories? Yes. So on this slide is the

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first, second, and third floor from right to left. And then on the next slide, we've got the fourth

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floor as well. Okay. So we're adding seven units to the existing two. Is there a plan that shows

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what part of the building is existing

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and what part of the building is new construction?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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This is the plan that ties it together.

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As I mentioned,

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this piece is also existing.

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If you consider this pink,

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this is what exists.

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That's that one story rear?

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Correct.

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This is correct.

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That's correct.

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So one story addition on the front, three on the rear as the existing second and third

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stories are extended.

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And how are we counting this piece where the trash room in that goes all the way down

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to grade?

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I guess that's not being considered a four story addition?

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the building will be four stories in total right but right now it looks like the new construction

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extends deeper than the existing building the existing building is about yeah approximately

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eight feet short of the property line in the back seven and a half eight feet okay and then

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just a few things one i think four stories to have it be a walk-up feels like a stretch i know

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there's two stairwells but people don't really there's a lot of density here for there to be a

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lot of stairwells so many stairs and then a question i have is for the residential portion

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of the building practically where are they like getting their mail where is amazon dropping their

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packages because it seems like the entry vestibule is really small compared to the entrance to the

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commercial space and then how how do you plan as the as the like property owner manager to segment

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between the commercial the existing commercial space and this now residential light lobby i mean

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you have up to 30 you know 35 possibly even 40 people living in this building and so i'm just

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trying to understand how people will be moving in and out sure um if you look at the plans the

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as it currently the building currently exists it's actually going to be almost identical to

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it's actually going to be almost identical to how it is currently if you look at the front entryway

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how it is currently if you look at the front entryway there are

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there already is an existing front uh apartment entryway and the um and the roll-up door for the

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beer distributor so that that sort of layout's not going to change um we would have some sort

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of intercom or entry system um that people could use to buzz you know open the door and handle

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packages and uh and obviously there would be a mailbox a multi-unit mailbox in the vegetable

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there um with the you know the usps would have their key keeper to be able to access

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is it very rare in this vestibule i don't see space to put a mail box in this vestibule which

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is part of why i asked so we either put them in the vestibule or we'll put them on the uh the

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outside of the building depending on you know uh historic concerns which isn't which isn't

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applicable here but certainly yes we would need a nine unit mailbox and we found we manage a lot

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of one-bedroom units, you know, I can almost guarantee that we're going to probably have

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nine people, maybe 12 people total for the building. Maybe some couples, but oftentimes

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most of our tenant mix tends to be one person renting these units.

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Okay. And I have one last question. Who has access to the roof? Rooftop? Everybody?

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only the tenants only the residential tenants yes

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why should you kind of everybody in the building right excuse me all the all the units in the

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building have access to the roof correct yes correct yeah thank you and then the trash room

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is accessed by foot so all tenants like the fourth floor tenant will be walking down the

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rear stairs to take their trash

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to trash and there's no chute or

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correct got it

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we have the same same layout

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we we we manage you know

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several four story

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buildings in uh in written house

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and um it's a the same exact

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procedure that that we manage in those

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buildings as well okay

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questions from our attorney hillary

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emerson

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not at this time mr chair

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questions or comments from the virtual audience

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here i have a hand up from naya richardson i will allow them to uh

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speak i'm bringing them back in right now sure

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hello my name is nia richardson hi um could you could you spell your name just for the court

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