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ZBA Hearing - July 9, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 9, 20256h 49m

We notified 164 neighbors about the community meeting.

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And the coordinating RCO was a brewery town charge for the Civic Association.

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So first thing you're going to see on your screen is the notice of refusal for 1622 North 25th Street. This is an RSA 5 property. We are looking to have two-family household living, and as I'll show further in the presentation, it's not out of character. We are not seeking any dimensional refusals.

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Same thing goes with 1624 North 25th Street.

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This is an RSA 5 property, but both of them are rather large in nature in terms of lot size.

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Also, we're seeking two-family household living, and there are no dimensional refusals.

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Also, we're seeking two-family household living, and there are no dimensions.

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A particular note for both properties, we omitted any roof deck from our use for recreational purposes of any roof deck for each presentation.

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We know it's really important to the individuals in the brewery town Shardswood neighborhood not to have that, and we omitted that from the beginning, and I think they're appreciative of that.

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So we did meet with the community. It was a well-attended community meeting.

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We did get a majority of the individuals who attended the community meeting in support.

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Of particular note, the Brewery Town Shardswood Civic Association is a very well-known, organized, respected, and sophisticated group.

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Their entire zoning committee voted in support of this project.

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We also did a CBA with them, and the CBA includes, and you'll read this in a letter of support,

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But we have a CBA with a trash plan, a construction plan, and about property management.

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Particularly, what's important to note is that they held the zoning committee for Brewery Townshards, which is a community civic association, withheld their vote until my client could provide references of other projects they've done in the city of Philadelphia.

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And after receiving those references, I assume that they call those individuals.

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They provided unanimous support for this project.

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And that's the same letter that was both for 1622 and 1624.

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Property history.

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So 1622 actually has a history of multifamily use.

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And it's also not out of characters to other properties nearby.

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And you'll see that on my screen.

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But just my notes, 1638 North 26th Street is an RSA 5 property with three units in it.

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1644 North 26th Street is a RSA 5 property with three units in it.

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And there are multiple instances on, at least I'm looking at five instances on the 1700 block of North 25th Street,

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which have three or more units in each of those, on each of those properties.

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We are merely asking for two residential dwelling units for each of these properties.

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And here's a backup data to show that there are active rental licenses for the properties I

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discussed. And in an aerial view of the block, as you can see, this block, other than the references

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to some of those multifamily units or properties, is kind of like mostly empty, vacant lots. And

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we're trying to redevelop this part of Philadelphia through these two duplexes. And again,

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while our properties is an RSA-5 property, we are surrounded by RM1 use. So again,

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from a zoning classification perspective, we are not out of character to what's nearby to us,

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in addition to all those other RSA-5 properties we discussed. We're also close to Ridge Avenue,

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Cecil B. Moore, which are commercial corridors. Typically, from a planning perspective, it's

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important to create that density near those commercial corridors to help support those

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commercial corridors, and that's what we're hoping to do. Photographs of these properties,

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they are vacant lots. They have been vacant lots for some time. As you can see, we got this off

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of Google Street View. It's been a vacant lot basically as far back as Google Street View goes

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since 2009. This is proof of our posting for today's hearing. Again, we put an orange-nosed

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poster for each property, for each separate zoning matter. This is North 25th Street to the right of

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the property, to the left of the property. Our plans and drawings, what we try to do, you know,

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is not just mimic the uses of these properties, which actually are more dense than the use that

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we're proposing. We also try to mimic the architecture from a massing standpoint

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and a stylistic standpoint. So you'll see a cornice line, lentils, flat building facades

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that are brick, kind of a stoop mentality. We're also not going deeper than in each of these

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properties than the properties tell left and right of us. So we're not affecting anyone's light in

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there. And then just our floor plans are pretty straightforward. You walk through a common

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vegetable area this is unit make a right this is unit number one that's a one bedroom one bath

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with a lower level as well that's open uh you instead of going to unit number one which is a

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one bedroom one bath and which will have access to a rear yard where the trash would be stored

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for unit number one you go to the unit number two which is a three bedroom one bath uh there's a

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trash, ventilated trash closet here, but it's a well thought out laid out floor plan. There's a

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living room, kitchen, bathroom, one bedroom on the on the second floor and on the third floor

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one bedroom on the on the second floor and on the third floor are two other bedrooms

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are two other bedrooms.

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and two baths there as well and then there's roof deck access merely for mechanical access only

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and that's both properties kind of mimic that same thing again these are proof of our mailings

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for our community meetings which took place on June 19th 2025 at 6 30 pm and again we notified

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164 addresses for each property we sent out separate notices and these are the proof of

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mailing to those addresses again the other notice that we sent along with the address that we mailed

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it to along with proof of mailing to those addresses our applications for appeal that we

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filed on behalf of the owner. And then finally, our tax, excuse me, finally, our tax clearance,

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or sorry, our deeds, which is A to Z real estate transaction LLC for the properties.

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And then finally, our tax clearance certificate is showing that no money is owed to the city of

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Philadelphia with respect to real estate taxes. I'm going to unshare my screen. I would ask that

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Mr. out of seven virtually raise his hand.

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I have a few questions for him, for him.

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And then obviously we'll be more than happy to answer any questions the board may have.

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And he's coming in now as a panelist.

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Yes, thank you.

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alan that was no basement living in either one was it there was these are bi-level units we

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have an open floor plan down there um from our experience many individuals like to have

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like additional living so secondary living areas again today we're virtual we're not always virtual

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but there are a lot of individuals in the city of philadelphia who do work from home and they

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want that extra space and you know that's what we're providing through the that lower level

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on for unit number one there was no egress well well obviously you know as part of our construction

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drawings we would have to provide egress wells in order to get those drawings approved from a

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building permit perspective as well as getting a co so i believe that's the intention so this

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this is no household living in a basement well so we did present to the board to the community

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that there would uh be household living um and just you know so you understand we are three

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feet above grade and six feet below grade uh for each building but we did present to the community

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um even though i guess there was no mission not intentional that there would be basement living

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down there. Not bedrooms in the basement, but living down there.

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But I obviously defer

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to the board. For what they decided to do

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only with the basement, I think it's a good use of space. And it's not out of character

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to many parts of Philadelphia, including Brewery Town,

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to have basement living.

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Is your client on? Yes, he is.

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Would he be agreeable to no basement living?

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I would defer to him.

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I think he would prefer.

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I think you just said you would defer to the board.

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Well, I defer to him to answer that question.

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Ultimately, you know, I haven't been in front of you guys in a while.

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I feel a little rusty here.

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So, but I defer to the board to make the ultimate decision.

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Yes.

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Sir, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Hi, my name is Kazi Ataseven, A-T-A-S-E-V-E-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do, Mr. Ataseven.

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Please proceed counsel.

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Mr. Ataseven, you heard everything I had to state today about this zoning matter.

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Yes, I did.

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Zoning matters.

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And is it true and correct as to both properties?

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Yes, correct.

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And do you adopt it as your own testimony?

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Yes, I will.

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And specifically, just to reaffirm, we did present to the community that there would be living in the basement as to both properties.

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Yes, I agree.

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Yes. And to answer, I believe it's the chairman's, I'm sorry, board member Graham's question, I believe.

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I don't remember who asked the question.

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Would you have any objection to no living in the basement?

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Not the objection, but otherwise the basement is going to be useless.

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which uh well storage yeah so we don't i mean tech

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which uh well storage yeah so we don't i mean technically we're going to lose a lot of space

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for the first unit uh we can just keep it open uh as a recreation and area

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that will be much for efficiency for the unit one all right so you would have no objection let me

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just get you know because i know it's been a long day for the board you would have no objection to

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no bedrooms in the basement but you would prefer not to have no living in the basement exactly

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then if that's the case i have an issue with the depth

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because you're six feet below grade and going like three feet above grade so you've got you've

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got half of the egress window will be will be below grade so if you do an egress window which

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not shown so i have a i have a concern with the depth of the basement below grade

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so i would say that there's household living in the basement that's my concern that's right

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that's right there's no household living in the basement that's a different story

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right i will say that we're 37 feet high high um our cornice line mimics the cornice line to

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left and right of us um you know we're trying to keep in character with architecturally the block

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as a whole, and

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again, from my experience

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presenting in front of

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Brewery Town Charswood

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and living close by in

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Fairmont, it's not uncommon for people

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to have some living in the basement.

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All right, so I'm going to move on.

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Questions or comments from

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our attorney?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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This way is Mr. Chair.

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No hands?

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No, sir.

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Planning Commission?

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Amy Boyd with the Planning Commission.

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The testimony is for ZP 2025-000755 and for ZP 2025-000752.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the existing zoning of RSA 5 residential single family.

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This is a vacant lot and two other structures are on this block, both of which are single family.

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The appellant has not demonstrated that there are unique physical conditions or circumstances of the property that would prevent it from being used in conformance of the zoning code.

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The Planning Commission recommends the Board deny the requested variance for two-family.

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Okay, thank you.

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So just reaffirm 1638 North, excuse me, 1638 North 26, next block over is three family dwelling, as well as 1644 North 26.

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There's not, there's only two structures. I apologize. I thought I read 25th, but there's only two structures on our side of the block.

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The rest are vacant lots. But if you go further down the block, 1700, 1702, 1716, 1717, and 1719.

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We're all multifamily structures with three or more units.

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We're only asking for two.

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So it is in character with the neighborhoods.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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So I'm going to vote for both.

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MI 2025 001 091 1622 North 25th and MI 2025 001 092 1624 North 25th.

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I vote yes with proviso.

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No household living in basement.

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Michael Johnson, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes.

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Mr. Chair, could you just clarify it's yes to both with proviso since you're voting on both?

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I said, okay, I'll go back.

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Yes for both, with proviso for both, no household living in basement.

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Thank you.

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My vote is yes to both, with proviso to both.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes to both, with proviso for both.

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to nethergram my vote is yes to both with provisos for both

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brian mcadams my vote is yes to both with provisos for both

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my vote is yes to both with provisos for both alan could you stay there why don't we just

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handle this last one you have i appreciate messenger so mi 2025 001 261 4167 manchua avenue

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So unanimous support from West Belmont Civic Association.

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We have a proof of posting.

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Yes, it should be in the packet.

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Yes, we did receive it, Mr. Chair.

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We received it today.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Nockmson, just state your name.

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You've already been sworn.

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Alan Nockmson.

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And could you identify your client in a relationship to this property?

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Yes, my client is Lapstone Capital LLC.

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the owner of the property in the virtual audience should be jacob catra catra one of its members

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and the architect on this project is a 24 7 design group

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and the architect on this project is uh 24 7 design group and it's uh representative

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chris johnson should be in the virtual audience as well

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may present i guess yeah well sure sure just hold on i think i'm jumping again out of the

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practice here i i should probably re there should be a reading of the and of the refusal right i

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to waive it do you want to do you waive the reading of the refusal and do you agree with

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its accuracy i do all right go ahead i think you got it all back go ahead all right let's see

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hopefully god you take a couple weeks off and nothing you can't do anything all right let's see

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