you were with you had the photos of the near neighbor properties i just think it's oh uh
yeah so yeah just so the board can see those are the properties i i had called out just to show
that this is in context um on the block as well even for these are just further down on the street
um and scott just to confirm uh we have one page uh for revised plans correct
uh correct yep one page revised plans again basically curve cut shifts um and to accommodate
uh you know some of the those changes that we have great happy to take any questions uh at this
time um before we go any questions from the board no no sorry correct me if i'm wrong we're going
to be holding this uh until next week um chair if you've watched the video as long as you announce
that on the record you can vote it now okay thank you uh anyone else would like to testify in this
case i just wanted to give um if kenny grono from the northern liberties neighbors association is
able to uh speak i know he had made time to come to the hearing mr grono there's no hands at this
time oh there is kenny kenny grono g-r-o-n-o yes i'm here hi mr grono please spell your name
for the record and i'll swear you in k-e-n-n-y g-r-o-n-o
affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing about the truth
i do thank you sir please proceed um uh everything they said today is correct we've seen them a
couple times and we have no opposition to this thank you anyone else to testify in this case
if so please raise your hand yes chair we have a larry friedman mr friedman you can unmute yourself
yes hi uh can you hear me yes please identify yourself and i'll swear you yeah i uh i had
raised my hand before larry larry larry oh i'm sorry here we go larry friedman north of liberties
Please, Zoning Chair.
What about your last name, Larry, for the record?
By your last name, Larry, for the record.
Yeah, F-R-E-E-D-M-A-N.
Yeah, F-R-E-E-D-M-A-N.
You swear if I'm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?
Yes, I do.
Thank you. Please proceed.
Yeah, I'm sorry. What I was saying, I raised my hand before I realized Kenny was on.
He was the co-chair.
So I just wanted to add that we had seen this application a couple of times.
um and of course we're very we dig deep when it comes into people asking for a street side uh
parking uh but this was had a unique history in that that garage has been there since forever
uh and people uh on that block the neighbors who came to the meeting park around it so in in a way
it's an existing situation uh they asked for two spots in terms of two curb cuts and we said uh
let's just go with one give us an 11 foot curb cut and they did they revised their plans
the neighbors were okay with that and that's why we're supporting it thank you anyone else
to testify in this case no hands at this time chair thank you planning commission
good afternoon chair i'm sorry yeah he has to be sworn in yeah you want to do it now
please identify yourself yep hi good afternoon um chair members of the board my name is greg
waldman planning commission staff my last name is spelled w-a-l-d as in david m as in michael
a n you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth
i do thank you please proceed um this property is indicated for single family residential on the
comprehensive plan. At the previous hearing, we had objected to the granting of the variance
based on the increased width of the front-loaded garage. However, since that has been reduced
to what is now existing, we support the granting of the variance. Thank you. MI 2021-000460-441
brown street my vote is yes with the proviso revised plan one page approved today carol
tenere my vote is yes professor plaza my vote is yes with proviso james snell my vote is yes
with proviso jim uh tom is not with us so there's only four of us thank you uh the other add-on
MI 2021-002415. 1222 Shackamaction Street. My vote is no to rehearing and reconsideration.
Carol Tenere, my vote is no to hearing and reconsideration.
Professor Plaza, my vote is no to reconsideration and rehearing.
James Snell, my vote is no to reconsideration and rehearing.
Thank you. I will now read off the continuance requests for the two o'clock hearing list.
Excuse me, Chair, there is one more add-on. There is Uber Street. In this case, there was
one witness whose testimony you are going to take. She mistakenly thought it was a live hearing and
went to 1515 Arch on the original hearing date. Her name is Mrs. Jones, but I'm afraid I don't
know her first name um carol do you have that information or no no i just know that mary jones
asked that the vote be held for testimony we certainly will we will certainly permit that
i'm just looking for um it's in your revised um summaries that were sent this morning but i can
read out the information is that uber street correct that's it yes that's correct
her name's not in there
um her name is not in there i only know that she is a miss jones because
the other miss jones from councilman clark's office told me her name
and has been helping her perhaps we could see if either or both of them are here
is either miss jones here we have mary jones coming in now
um hello good afternoon yeah mary uh let's just swear you in and then i have a question
for you all right okay um mary jones council president daryl clark uh city hall room 494
you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth
I do. I do. And I just hold on. I'm, for some reason, every time I click on to get this add-on.
Chair, I can read the information if you'd like.
Chair, I can read the information if you'd like. Yeah, I was going to ask you to, because I keep losing.
Yeah, I was going to ask you to because I keep losing it every time I go to open it up.
Sure. It's MI 2021 001476. The address is 731 North Uber Street.
The attorney for the applicant is Roger Perry.
And this was originally heard on July 28th.
Ms. Jones, is the other Ms. Jones here? Do you know?
Yeah, I spoke to a Richard Alston from the Senior Law Center who was assisting her with logging in today.
I sent him the link to register right before, so perhaps he's in the audience to help her speak.
If you're in the audience, can you raise your hand for me, please?
chair richard austin is that richard austin and miss uh eudora jones is present okay uh
please spell your full name mr austin richard r-i-c-h-a-r-d last name a-l-s-t-o-n
you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing about the truth
I do. Okay. I actually was able to bring up the case on my, my iPhone, my phone.
And chair, if we could check one more time to ask if Mr. Roger Perry is in attendance.
Mr. Perry, if you're out there, please raise your hand.
i don't think he necessarily has to be he did know that this testimony was going to be accepted
today and he had no objection okay um miss jones mary jones how do you want to proceed do you want
to have any opening statement or we just go to the other miss jones i think the only thing that
Mr. Perry agreed to really was for the witness to put her testimony on the record I apologize
Ms. Jones that is Mary Jones this is confusing yeah no worries and that's exactly right okay
thank you so Mr. Alston you're representing the other Ms. Jones uh yes we're assisting Ms. Jones
um on this matter she um is not that tech savvy she came to our office for assistance with
request to this matter yeah we apologize that for the confusion that brought her to 1500 art street
yes i apologize on behalf of the board and everyone else um so you can proceed yes
yes i can okay please proceed ma'am uh let me swear you on your full name
Eudora Jones, Y-O-D-O-R-A, Jones, J-O-N-E-S.
Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?
Thank you. Please proceed.
Okay. I'm here because they want to build a house next door to me, 48 feet high.
they have taken over our neighborhood we don't no longer have an alley where i live at is two
is three houses together never supposed to be fenced off because that's our way of getting
out if a fire starts in the front so it's in my deed that is never to be changed
so i can't see them building something there where i can't even see next door to me
i couldn't get out for fire start because they done took over the alleyway they don't clean
the mess that they make and furthermore where are they if they want to tear their house down
that's rodents we no longer want rodents last when they did the houses on 19th street our block was
full of it. Plus
I just redid my
house. I don't want
it took me six months to
get rid of all of that stuff.
They don't clean up behind themselves.
There's no place on
Uber Street for them to park.
I don't want them parking on my payment.
What guarantee do I have
if something go wrong with my
house that they won't fix
Plus it's kids on that block.
And we just don't want it.
I had a petition taken out and they put their signature on it.
So it was for low income.
Now, I don't work all my life.
I paid for that house.
I'm getting ready to retire.
I'm getting ready to retire.
I want to sit back and enjoy my home.
I want to sit back and enjoy my life.
I feel safe there.
I don't drive.
Everything is convenient for me right there.
And I have grandkids that come and visit and want to be in the backyard and in the front yard.
it then they want to take and build a house all the way to to the front where they don't even have
a payment anymore and it's just not fair to me because i don't want the rodents no more
i just rebuilt my house i just put a roof on my house what guarantee do i have
well as it relates to your concern for any damage that would
be caused to your house by the construction and demolition pictures would be taken of your
property inside and out prior to any construction and if there's any damage you'll have you would
have proof of that um as for rodents i i suspect that they're going to be required to uh yeah but
they said them three houses is never supposed to be fenced off if they build that house they're
gonna fence me in if i have a fire and i have to come out the back i have nowhere to go in all
honestly ma'am i have to i would have to review the application i don't not i don't recall and
of the details the only thing i will say is apparently the rco united francisville has
taken no position unless that has changed the event sharon has that changed not that i'm aware
of. Chair, if I could suggest
that if you were to hold this for
discussion next week, I could send you
again all of the plans to review.
Yeah, I think it would be helpful
to me and the rest of the other board members
because I honestly don't.
Absolutely.
Ms. Jones
from Uber Street, you were about to say?
Yeah, but my D said
it's never supposed to be fenced off.
I wouldn't have never bought a house
if I didn't have a way out.
We understand that.
is never to be fenced off. Understood. We're going to review
the presentation, so we'll have a better idea as to how we decide to vote, okay?
Yes. All right. Ms. Jones, Mary Jones, you'll be notified, yes.
hello yeah mary is that you i think frank froze oh okay i thought he was calling me
i recognize your voice and i just see oh now he's now he's back frank you froze for a while
i'm sorry um okay it says my internet connection is unstable i don't know if that's me or the
machine uh mary mary jones i apologize do you have anything to add um we we did not
Our office didn't take a position on this one.
It was just wanting to give Ms. Jones an opportunity to speak since she didn't have it before.
Okay, understood.
And again, Ms. Jones from Uber Street, we apologize for the miscommunication on where the hearing would be held.
And, excuse me, Ms. Jones from Councilman Clark's office, thank you for all your help with this.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you all.
All right, Sharon, we can move on now to the next case?
Yes, you can.
or you can i gotta read into the record yeah or continuances are there continuances to be read
i don't think we do i'm going to get into that next i just want to make sure that everyone
understands mi 2021-001476731 north uber street uh the record is the record is closed the board
will discuss and a decision at next wednesday's executive session okay now i will read off the
continuance. Mr. Chair, you muted yourself. Time that happened. Sorry. I'm going to read off the
continuance list for the two o'clock hearings. Number seven, MI 2021-001-976, 4927 West Thompson
street number eight on our list mi 2021-002181-5101-07 westminster avenue request for
continuance by the attorney and so far that's those are the
And so far, that's those are the requests for continuance is a two o'clock list.
If anyone is objects.
So I'm sorry, there was one we just before the hearing started, received another continuance request for number 11.
This is the request was made by the attorney's applicant who is asking for more time to meet with Councilwoman Parker's office.
Okay. MI 2021-002175. 5916 North 13th Street is also requested to be continued. If anyone objects to the request for the three continuances I just read into the record, please raise your hand at this time. Only if you object to those continuances.
chair we have a mark harris
good afternoon mr harris please identify yourself for the record and i'll swear you in
i'm mark harris
hello mr harris you're you're breaking up would you try that again i'm mark harris president
cathedral park cdcna spell your last name harris h-a-r-r-i-s you swear from to tell the truth
the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do thank you what case you're speaking to sir