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ZBA Hearing - September 15, 2021

Hearing video from Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA), Sep 15, 2021, 4h 44m

you were with you had the photos of the near neighbor properties i just think it's oh uh

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yeah so yeah just so the board can see those are the properties i i had called out just to show

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that this is in context um on the block as well even for these are just further down on the street

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um and scott just to confirm uh we have one page uh for revised plans correct

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uh correct yep one page revised plans again basically curve cut shifts um and to accommodate

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uh you know some of the those changes that we have great happy to take any questions uh at this

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time um before we go any questions from the board no no sorry correct me if i'm wrong we're going

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to be holding this uh until next week um chair if you've watched the video as long as you announce

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that on the record you can vote it now okay thank you uh anyone else would like to testify in this

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case i just wanted to give um if kenny grono from the northern liberties neighbors association is

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able to uh speak i know he had made time to come to the hearing mr grono there's no hands at this

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time oh there is kenny kenny grono g-r-o-n-o yes i'm here hi mr grono please spell your name

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for the record and i'll swear you in k-e-n-n-y g-r-o-n-o

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affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing about the truth

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i do thank you sir please proceed um uh everything they said today is correct we've seen them a

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couple times and we have no opposition to this thank you anyone else to testify in this case

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if so please raise your hand yes chair we have a larry friedman mr friedman you can unmute yourself

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yes hi uh can you hear me yes please identify yourself and i'll swear you yeah i uh i had

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raised my hand before larry larry larry oh i'm sorry here we go larry friedman north of liberties

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Please, Zoning Chair.

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What about your last name, Larry, for the record?

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By your last name, Larry, for the record.

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Yeah, F-R-E-E-D-M-A-N.

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Yeah, F-R-E-E-D-M-A-N.

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You swear if I'm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Thank you. Please proceed.

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Yeah, I'm sorry. What I was saying, I raised my hand before I realized Kenny was on.

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He was the co-chair.

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So I just wanted to add that we had seen this application a couple of times.

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um and of course we're very we dig deep when it comes into people asking for a street side uh

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parking uh but this was had a unique history in that that garage has been there since forever

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uh and people uh on that block the neighbors who came to the meeting park around it so in in a way

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it's an existing situation uh they asked for two spots in terms of two curb cuts and we said uh

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let's just go with one give us an 11 foot curb cut and they did they revised their plans

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the neighbors were okay with that and that's why we're supporting it thank you anyone else

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to testify in this case no hands at this time chair thank you planning commission

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good afternoon chair i'm sorry yeah he has to be sworn in yeah you want to do it now

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please identify yourself yep hi good afternoon um chair members of the board my name is greg

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waldman planning commission staff my last name is spelled w-a-l-d as in david m as in michael

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a n you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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i do thank you please proceed um this property is indicated for single family residential on the

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comprehensive plan. At the previous hearing, we had objected to the granting of the variance

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based on the increased width of the front-loaded garage. However, since that has been reduced

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to what is now existing, we support the granting of the variance. Thank you. MI 2021-000460-441

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brown street my vote is yes with the proviso revised plan one page approved today carol

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tenere my vote is yes professor plaza my vote is yes with proviso james snell my vote is yes

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with proviso jim uh tom is not with us so there's only four of us thank you uh the other add-on

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MI 2021-002415. 1222 Shackamaction Street. My vote is no to rehearing and reconsideration.

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Carol Tenere, my vote is no to hearing and reconsideration.

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Professor Plaza, my vote is no to reconsideration and rehearing.

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James Snell, my vote is no to reconsideration and rehearing.

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Thank you. I will now read off the continuance requests for the two o'clock hearing list.

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Excuse me, Chair, there is one more add-on. There is Uber Street. In this case, there was

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one witness whose testimony you are going to take. She mistakenly thought it was a live hearing and

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went to 1515 Arch on the original hearing date. Her name is Mrs. Jones, but I'm afraid I don't

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know her first name um carol do you have that information or no no i just know that mary jones

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asked that the vote be held for testimony we certainly will we will certainly permit that

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i'm just looking for um it's in your revised um summaries that were sent this morning but i can

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read out the information is that uber street correct that's it yes that's correct

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her name's not in there

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um her name is not in there i only know that she is a miss jones because

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the other miss jones from councilman clark's office told me her name

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and has been helping her perhaps we could see if either or both of them are here

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is either miss jones here we have mary jones coming in now

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um hello good afternoon yeah mary uh let's just swear you in and then i have a question

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for you all right okay um mary jones council president daryl clark uh city hall room 494

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you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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I do. I do. And I just hold on. I'm, for some reason, every time I click on to get this add-on.

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Chair, I can read the information if you'd like.

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Chair, I can read the information if you'd like. Yeah, I was going to ask you to, because I keep losing.

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Yeah, I was going to ask you to because I keep losing it every time I go to open it up.

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Sure. It's MI 2021 001476. The address is 731 North Uber Street.

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The attorney for the applicant is Roger Perry.

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And this was originally heard on July 28th.

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Ms. Jones, is the other Ms. Jones here? Do you know?

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Yeah, I spoke to a Richard Alston from the Senior Law Center who was assisting her with logging in today.

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I sent him the link to register right before, so perhaps he's in the audience to help her speak.

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If you're in the audience, can you raise your hand for me, please?

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chair richard austin is that richard austin and miss uh eudora jones is present okay uh

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please spell your full name mr austin richard r-i-c-h-a-r-d last name a-l-s-t-o-n

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you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing about the truth

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I do. Okay. I actually was able to bring up the case on my, my iPhone, my phone.

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And chair, if we could check one more time to ask if Mr. Roger Perry is in attendance.

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Mr. Perry, if you're out there, please raise your hand.

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i don't think he necessarily has to be he did know that this testimony was going to be accepted

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today and he had no objection okay um miss jones mary jones how do you want to proceed do you want

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to have any opening statement or we just go to the other miss jones i think the only thing that

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Mr. Perry agreed to really was for the witness to put her testimony on the record I apologize

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Ms. Jones that is Mary Jones this is confusing yeah no worries and that's exactly right okay

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thank you so Mr. Alston you're representing the other Ms. Jones uh yes we're assisting Ms. Jones

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um on this matter she um is not that tech savvy she came to our office for assistance with

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request to this matter yeah we apologize that for the confusion that brought her to 1500 art street

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yes i apologize on behalf of the board and everyone else um so you can proceed yes

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yes i can okay please proceed ma'am uh let me swear you on your full name

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Eudora Jones, Y-O-D-O-R-A, Jones, J-O-N-E-S.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Thank you. Please proceed.

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Okay. I'm here because they want to build a house next door to me, 48 feet high.

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they have taken over our neighborhood we don't no longer have an alley where i live at is two

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is three houses together never supposed to be fenced off because that's our way of getting

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out if a fire starts in the front so it's in my deed that is never to be changed

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so i can't see them building something there where i can't even see next door to me

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i couldn't get out for fire start because they done took over the alleyway they don't clean

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the mess that they make and furthermore where are they if they want to tear their house down

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that's rodents we no longer want rodents last when they did the houses on 19th street our block was

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full of it. Plus

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I just redid my

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house. I don't want

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it took me six months to

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get rid of all of that stuff.

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They don't clean up behind themselves.

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There's no place on

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Uber Street for them to park.

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I don't want them parking on my payment.

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What guarantee do I have

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if something go wrong with my

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house that they won't fix

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it?

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Plus it's kids on that block.

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And we just don't want it.

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I had a petition taken out and they put their signature on it.

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So it was for low income.

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Now, I don't work all my life.

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I paid for that house.

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I'm getting ready to retire.

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I'm getting ready to retire.

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I want to sit back and enjoy my home.

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I want to sit back and enjoy my life.

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I feel safe there.

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I don't drive.

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Everything is convenient for me right there.

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And I have grandkids that come and visit and want to be in the backyard and in the front yard.

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it then they want to take and build a house all the way to to the front where they don't even have

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a payment anymore and it's just not fair to me because i don't want the rodents no more

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i just rebuilt my house i just put a roof on my house what guarantee do i have

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well as it relates to your concern for any damage that would

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be caused to your house by the construction and demolition pictures would be taken of your

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property inside and out prior to any construction and if there's any damage you'll have you would

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have proof of that um as for rodents i i suspect that they're going to be required to uh yeah but

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they said them three houses is never supposed to be fenced off if they build that house they're

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gonna fence me in if i have a fire and i have to come out the back i have nowhere to go in all

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honestly ma'am i have to i would have to review the application i don't not i don't recall and

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of the details the only thing i will say is apparently the rco united francisville has

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taken no position unless that has changed the event sharon has that changed not that i'm aware

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of. Chair, if I could suggest

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that if you were to hold this for

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discussion next week, I could send you

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again all of the plans to review.

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Yeah, I think it would be helpful

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to me and the rest of the other board members

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because I honestly don't.

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Absolutely.

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Ms. Jones

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from Uber Street, you were about to say?

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Yeah, but my D said

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it's never supposed to be fenced off.

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I wouldn't have never bought a house

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if I didn't have a way out.

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We understand that.

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is never to be fenced off. Understood. We're going to review

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the presentation, so we'll have a better idea as to how we decide to vote, okay?

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Yes. All right. Ms. Jones, Mary Jones, you'll be notified, yes.

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Okay.

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hello yeah mary is that you i think frank froze oh okay i thought he was calling me

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i recognize your voice and i just see oh now he's now he's back frank you froze for a while

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i'm sorry um okay it says my internet connection is unstable i don't know if that's me or the

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machine uh mary mary jones i apologize do you have anything to add um we we did not

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Our office didn't take a position on this one.

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It was just wanting to give Ms. Jones an opportunity to speak since she didn't have it before.

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Okay, understood.

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And again, Ms. Jones from Uber Street, we apologize for the miscommunication on where the hearing would be held.

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Okay.

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And, excuse me, Ms. Jones from Councilman Clark's office, thank you for all your help with this.

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Appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you all.

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All right, Sharon, we can move on now to the next case?

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Yes, you can.

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or you can i gotta read into the record yeah or continuances are there continuances to be read

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i don't think we do i'm going to get into that next i just want to make sure that everyone

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understands mi 2021-001476731 north uber street uh the record is the record is closed the board

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will discuss and a decision at next wednesday's executive session okay now i will read off the

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continuance. Mr. Chair, you muted yourself. Time that happened. Sorry. I'm going to read off the

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continuance list for the two o'clock hearings. Number seven, MI 2021-001-976, 4927 West Thompson

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street number eight on our list mi 2021-002181-5101-07 westminster avenue request for

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continuance by the attorney and so far that's those are the

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And so far, that's those are the requests for continuance is a two o'clock list.

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If anyone is objects.

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So I'm sorry, there was one we just before the hearing started, received another continuance request for number 11.

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This is the request was made by the attorney's applicant who is asking for more time to meet with Councilwoman Parker's office.

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Okay. MI 2021-002175. 5916 North 13th Street is also requested to be continued. If anyone objects to the request for the three continuances I just read into the record, please raise your hand at this time. Only if you object to those continuances.

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chair we have a mark harris

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good afternoon mr harris please identify yourself for the record and i'll swear you in

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i'm mark harris

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hello mr harris you're you're breaking up would you try that again i'm mark harris president

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cathedral park cdcna spell your last name harris h-a-r-r-i-s you swear from to tell the truth

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the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do thank you what case you're speaking to sir

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