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ZBA Hearing - September 1, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 1, 20205h 27m

prefer to have it done as revised plans or simply as a proviso saying maximum

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height 38 feet? I do believe we submitted the revised plans. You did and those are

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fine I just I'm asking if you have a preference one way or the other. I don't

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i'm asking if you have a preference one way or the other i don't have a preference whatever's

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have a preference, whatever's easier.

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easier for you guys if it's easier to do it as a proviso that would be fine and we would plan

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to submit updated plans to l and i anyways whatever's easier on your end is fine okay

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thank you yep um additionally as you can see some of the materials that we are using and sort of

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as you can see the architect uh nicely incorporated a uh sort of a fence barrier

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so that there was a little bit more safety and privacy and so that there was a little bit of a

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nicer aesthetic separating the rear yards of these properties from sort of the back single

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family homes. As you may be familiar with this site, there is an atlas. We sort of don't have

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an illegally open street to um bring in sort of any traffic or egress or um any other means besides

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east thompson street for parking considerations wilt street um isn't a legally open street um

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and so we can't utilize that as street frontage so everything was sort of designed having east

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thompson street um be the frontage of this property um agada do you want to go into more

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detail on the floor plans um and then i can kind of go into the

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the community considerations and take any questions from the board

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what god are you there yes i'm yes can you hear me yeah i'm going to stop

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sharing my screen so that you can share yours for the floor plans

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it's what we're getting she's getting ready the the height of the carriage

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house that would be maximum 38 feet as well correct the community didn't have an issue with

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the carriage house that was actually their favorite part of this project was the carriage

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house i think it kind of kept in character with the uniqueness of the neighborhood but um it was

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mostly the the rear homes that presented more of the concern because of density because of the

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lumped in with some of the concerns that they had with the Montgomery 5 now

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that that project's under construction. So although, you know, we tried to

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explain that we already, you know, initially we went in with six homes in

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the back which had been reduced before we even got to the community in order to

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try and provide a less dense site. However, any reduction from this point

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with the rear homes would just result in larger homes that would be even more out of character

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on this lot so five was kind of the middle ground um and it was kind of it's kind of hard to uh be

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have an issue with density on the rear which is single family when you're okay with a duplex in

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the front so we were just trying to to balance that out and height was one of the the other

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more easily adjustable um you know features of the sites that that was sort of that in addition

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to the fence, sort of the gate in the front, as well as issues with trash, which we plan

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to have private commercial trash for this site.

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What are the, what's the square footage of the rear five houses?

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Agata, do you have that?

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Yes, they, not including the cellar and the garage, they're about 2,300 square foot homes

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with cellar and garage, they're about 3,100.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Rachel, should I go through the floor plan?

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Yep, please, you do.

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A couple items that I would like to emphasize on the homes at rear since the carriage house,

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I will just briefly scan through since that was not so much of a board's concern,

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is that the fourth floor is set back and also the pilot houses were eliminated from the proposal

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as well as the parapet walls were also removed to diminish the impact on the adjacent homes.

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Proposing the common driveway right in the middle pushed the buildings away from the homes that

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they're directly facing Thompson Street to allow as much light and air and obstruct their view as

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much as as little as possible. The homes they are backing into Will Street which as you can see

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they're only they're not affecting anybody's light and air since these are

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party walls on both of these properties right now this is an open area but shall

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of these properties. Right now this is an open area but shall anybody erect a garage or

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anybody erect

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subdivide a lot if Will Street ever becomes a legally open street, we again will not be taking

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away any light and air from that particular phase so we felt that that proposal was very responsible.

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Layouts of single-family homes starting on the first floor, one-car garage with

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den in the rear. This is access to Wilts Street, also ingress and egress. Shall anybody be

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approaching it from that portion? Cellar, we're only proposing den, small bathroom. There's

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also egress that leads directly into the public right away from the cellar. Second floor,

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open floor plan with access to small deck. Third floor, two bedrooms, laundry room, small

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office area, fourth floor, generous master suite with access to a roof deck that is not enclosed

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with pilot house. This exhibit presents... Can you just zoom in a little bit?

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It might be a little hard for the board to see. The exhibit that presents the condo building,

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And again, our client would like for these units to be condos.

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They are not apartments, so they're high-quality units.

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Common Drive, they upgrade generous lobby entrance with stairway leading to the upstairs.

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This unit will provide space for one car.

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Upper floors, they're exactly the same.

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layouts, generous kitchen, dining area, living area, three bedrooms. Each have

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access to their own bathroom. Again, laundry room, very generous. They're high

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quality units. This is our client we've been working together for many years and

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his product is of superior quality.

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Massing models, just zoom in a little bit. I'm sorry? Zoom in a little bit. I just

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want to make sure it's, yeah. Thompson Street, Wilts Street, they are

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rotated for multiple views, so I'll walk you through each view, but you can see

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how far these five units are set back and and we really try to be respectful to what we are

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proposing in the context that we are proposing it within. Thompson Street view from the other side,

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this is the common driveway. This view shows Wilts Street and the rear of our buildings

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with the access to roof decks. It's also the same view and here you can see where

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how the building tapers back to allow more light and air and also I wanted to

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point out that we are located to north of these properties so we are truly not

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taking any of their light during today. We're basically north of them.

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um i'm not sure if you would like us to go through the materials that they're selected

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they're high quality materials bricks i don't think i don't think that'll be necessary yeah

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um and also there is an alleyway um that is wrapping around the existing homes on thompson

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street um our client will be proposing nice decorative fence with additional lighting to

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make the alley a little bit more secure and more attractive and also defensing with living wall

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elements will provide security from any of the headlights that might be affecting the

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residents of the homes on Thompson Street. Do me a favor would you go back to the previous

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exhibit the one that shows in yellow? Yes. Yeah all right right here as an example

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uh looking at uh upper right the five houses uh going left to right of the going left to right

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of the five houses there's a looks like a large building right here yeah what is that um so right

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now this is a one story for most part with two story section in the back it's a warehouse that

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most likely you will be seeing soon or you might have already seen they are

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also looking for a variance to propose an office complex and I believe there is

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actually proposed a further addition on this entire space with parking in the

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front that is something that is going through variance at this time but that

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but that is not for me to be disclosing their properties okay but you will be seeing that

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is not for me to be disclosing their properties but you will be seeing that building

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building it it appears to be a warehouse that's why i asked yes yes it is and if you would like

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i have um actually an exhibit with photographs they'll give you a little bit more insight

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No worries it's okay it's I can pull it up on the street view

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you know what actually this one is right here

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here's the building right here and the proposal was to um extend it okay thank you you're welcome

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are there any questions uh mr chair as far as the floor plans are concerned and i would like

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to just go into sort of the rco um meeting and letter i can bring up so that we can kind of

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talk through the way that we've made adjustments sorry let me uh is any members of the board have

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any questions at this time no okay i'm gonna please continue i got if you could um unshare

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your screen so that i can share mine thank you you're welcome okay so i just want to bring up

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the rco letter we met with the fishtown neighbors association we had two meetings with them a

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preliminary meeting and then the full community meeting. Here's sort of their

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concerns that were listed. The number of units being proposed in the RSA 5 lot,

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they understood that the shape and size of the lot was a hardship. They did

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mention that if we were able to subdivide it that we'd only be able to

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get five units. However, that would just leave just the five homes in the back

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with nothing in the front meeting the street level. A lot of their concerns

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were around safety. So not having eyes on the street or something that directly is adjacent

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to the existing structures, I don't believe would provide a more safe environment. So that's why we

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kind of provided the carriage house in addition to the five homes. Again, we did look at reducing

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the density, but we had already cut it down from six homes in the back to five. So again, given the

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size of those homes already at 3,100 square feet with the basement included, we would have really

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large sort of unsizable homes for that neighborhood um again if we were to do this completely by right

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we would have one giant home on an 8 000 square foot lot again the other concern was the additional

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height again as you can see we've reduced the height to 38 feet so that should eliminate that

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concern um again the there was a concern about uh parking and the common driveway again there's an

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existing curb cut that's been there it's been a there's been a drive aisle a lot of times you get

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concerns about parking and so we were trying to provide a way to have parking and also have some

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safety features with the gate in front which was something that we actually added on after the

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first RCO meeting and we've discussed with them that we would be happy to you know have additional

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conversations to make sure that it's a safe and secure environment the developer has no intention

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of providing homes that are unsafe to anybody. Again, we don't have a refusal for parking,

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but we are maximizing parking. I believe we have six spots. Is that right, Agata, six spots?

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Yeah, okay. So again, a lot of the other concerns were about how was a traffic,

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how was a fire truck going to get in Wilt Street?

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that wasn't really anything that at the time we could address we just understood that as it exists

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now there's no been no issues with any of the properties that are on will street having access

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to or having fire trucks have access to them and again providing sort of this drive aisle

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will make it so that the homes in the rear even more accessible than they would be without a drive

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aisle as you can see they were concerned about some emergency scenarios again the front building

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was really appreciated by the community and I feel like we have done a pretty

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good job of addressing any of the other concerns although they did issue us a

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letter in opposition I do believe that this is a project that makes sense given

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the other projects that have been approved again the Montgomery 5 on the

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back smaller lot smaller flagship and and sort of ours provides a little bit

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more um density however um again it's me it's mainly because of the size and the shape of the

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lot so um that's sort of our presentation happy to take any questions that the board has and i'm sure

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there's um there may be other comments as well want to answer your client if they adopt your

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Want to ask your client if they adopt your testimony?

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testimony yep thank you um robert and ali

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Yep, thank you.

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Robert and Allie, have you heard my testimony, and do you adopt it as your own?

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You just have to unmute.

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You must unmute yourself.

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Yes, we do.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board?

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No.

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No.

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No.

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anyone who wishes to testify in this case please raise your hand

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here we have venice whitaker venice you can unmute yourself and wait to be sworn in

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hello ms whittaker hello good afternoon good morning good morning and please spell your name

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first and last name for the record sure it is spelled v as in victor e n i s e last name

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Whitaker, W-H-I-T-A-K-E-R. Your address? 1468 East Wilt Street, W-I-L-T Street, 19125.

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Thank you. You swear to the firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do. Thank you, ma'am. Please proceed.

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okay so um the community had came out for this zoom meeting um there was a lot of them and

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everyone opposed this project because of it's too dense for the size of this lot we understand it's

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a flag lot you can only build one house but the community asked for just one house on this lot

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they voted no in addition there's a similar lot that is located in at 303 south 51st street in

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West Philly that just had a denial of a permit for fire apparatus access. That lot is the same

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as this lot that's being proposed in front of you all, this flag lot in Fishtown. There was a fire

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last week on Little Welch Street, which is referred as the pig alley in Fishtown, that's

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behind this project. The firefighters were unable to access that car fighter. They had to go through

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people's alleyways to be able to and use a jump hose to put out the fire luckily that fire did

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not spread to the new construction that's happening on the other flag lot the new construction on the

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other flag lot was also appealed by the community twice in 2018 but eventually it was approved by

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you all at the zba and the construction on that flag lot has been a menace to the neighbors

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the construction vehicles have been unable to access it whatsoever so i am asking the zba

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today to stand with the fishtown neighborhood association and vote absolutely no for this

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request no exceptions thank you very much no exceptions meaning nothing more than one single

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family home exactly that's what the neighborhood wants what else wish to testify in this case

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here we have carrie carrie you can unmute yourself and wait to be sworn in

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hello carrie gallagher please spell your name first and last name and give us your address

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my name is carrie gallagher c-a-r-e-y g-a-l-l-a-g-h-e-r i live at 623 east thompson

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street which is directly next to this property we're in the firm to tell the truth the whole

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truth and nothing but the truth i do please proceed um thank you um thank you for letting me

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speak um i just want to second some of venice's comments we had a neighborhood um zoning committee

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meeting that attracted over 80 people all of whom were aligned in opposition of this project

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I live in the house directly next to the alley that's adjacent to 627.

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There is no 625 on our block with my husband and two-year-old son, and I'm gravely concerned

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regarding putting in a driveway for seven cars four feet away from our home that bisects

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sidewalk where droves of kids of all ages walk to the Adair School which is

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on Thompson just a block and a half away. We are also as you know across the

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street from a middle school and high school Penn Treaty. The block is well

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