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ZBA Hearing - December 10, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Dec 10, 20256h 33m

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got it

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thank you very much

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We will. Sorry, Chair. Sorry, Chair. This is Ian Hegarty. Isaac, the the date will be a Tuesday date.

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That'll be a resumption hearing day Tuesday morning, 930 a.m.

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Thank you. But it's a 0203 to three 2026. All right. Very good.

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We'll we'll be there on the 930. Yep. Number six.

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MI 2025, thank you, Isaac.

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Number 20, MI 2025, 004-491-1614 West Erie Avenue.

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Henry Clinton is the attorney.

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He has two more, too.

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Yep.

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Mr. Clinton is coming back in as a panelist now, Chair.

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Yep.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

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Hi, Henry. I'm sorry we got to you a little later tonight.

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That's fine.

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Could you state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Sure. Henry Clinton, H-E-N-R-Y, Clinton, C-L-I-N-T-O-N.

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Right. Could you identify your client, their relationship to the property?

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Sure. My client is Eleanor Mack, M-A-C-K, and she is the owner of the property.

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There's a letter of support from Nicetown Tioga Improvement Team.

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Our vice chair has a few questions, Henry.

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Sure.

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Good afternoon.

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Have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing?

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Yes, Ms. Graham.

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And do you waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Okay, thank you.

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You can share your screen and begin your case.

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is that visible mr chairman it is sir okay good evening mr chairman members of the board again

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here on behalf of eleanor mack who is on the call with me uh this is a request for a three-family

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This is a request for a three-family dwelling in a rather large home on a block that has many multifamily, and it's on a wide street, Erie Avenue, that we're all familiar with.

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dwelling in a rather

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Table of contents, A1 to A10, as well as zoning records of the multifamily that exist on the block already.

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It has to be admitted into evidence.

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Refusal, again, is a use refusal.

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request is for free family dwelling. This property has been vacant for a minimum of 10 years. And

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when you see the outside, I think you'll agree it's a need of some tender, loving care.

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We do have an RCO letter of support.

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Photographs. So we've marked up the plan, the aerial plan with the multifamily that exists

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on the block the one without the marking is the subject property so on this particular side of

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the street the even side of the street the south side of the street there's two triplexes on the

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block and just across the small street there's another fourplex or quadplex rather than a couple

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multi-family across the street photographed for the front of the house

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really has a nice front elevation.

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This MAC is going to keep everything

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and restore the front to its former grandeur.

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This is an old photograph.

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I can show you a more recent photograph

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where the front has been cleaned up.

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This is the interior photographs.

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I'm just showing you the dilapidated condition

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of the property.

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rear yard that's looking toward the front of the building to the rear this is the basement

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posters indicating that we posted the property so you can see now the front yard has been cleaned

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up somewhat but still you know the exterior needs to be addressed and i do have elevations

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of what it's going to look like at the end of the presentation.

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The plans I'm going to go right to rather than showing the framing plans

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and everything else.

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These plans are called updated plans only because Ms. Mack,

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because the community group asked for it.

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They wanted to see where the fire rated drywall was going to be,

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and so she did what we call an updated plan.

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But the interior or the footprint of the property has not changed since we submitted it to Nicetown.

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So I'll work from left to right.

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Basement is going to be mechanicals.

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There's not going to be any living quarters in the basement.

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These are three one-bedroom apartments, which the community was very thankful for.

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Rather than having three or four bedrooms, you could have three different individuals or couples on each floor.

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And one apartment per floor.

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You enter the front door to go into the first level apartment with the kitchen in the rear,

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access to the rear yard for trash.

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You can see we have a utility closet as well as living and dining toward the front of the house.

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The entrance to the second floor, you would go up the other door that's on the front porch,

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come into the second floor.

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I can blow this up a little bit.

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so we go up to the second floor and again it's a repeat a little bit of the first floor in terms of

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of the the footprint but this time we have the bedroom in the rear and we have a galley kitchen

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here we have a utility closet for uh storage and or trash probably trash because it is close to

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the kitchen and then you continue up the steps to the third floor and again uh we'll have one

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bedroom on the third floor. There's going to be a small addition to the rear of the property

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to make that third floor a livable condition.

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We have an L-shaped kitchen living in the front room

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leading to the back

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bedroom. And we also

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have another utility closet here. A little bit of a walk from the

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kitchen, but still an area to put trash in.

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This is the layout of the kitchens and the baths, which a community group asked for, and Ms. Mack accommodated.

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This is the front elevation, really a sharp-looking building.

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I'm going to open up the porch. It's closed in right now, as I showed you at the very outset,

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and just restored this building to what it looked like back in the day.

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This is the rear elevation.

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The only change we have in the rear elevation is the addition on the third floor is going to be stucco and not the existing brick that's there right now.

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The addition on the third floor is going to be stucco and not the existing brick that's there right now.

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Side elevation, again showing the addition on the third floor for that one extra bedroom.

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Some interior renderings of the various kitchens on the first floor.

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Second floor is the galley kitchen, and then on the third floor.

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The remaining documents, the application for appeal, we have the tax.

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It's not a clearance, it's just indicating that there's a credit on the real estate taxes for the property.

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Zoning map, again, RSA 5 across the street is CMX 2.

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The deed indicating that Ms. Mack did purchase the property in January of this year.

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She has a lot of work ahead of her, but she's up to the task.

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notice letter indicating mailings to over 200 properties.

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I went by that kind of quick.

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Over 105 properties, excuse my mistake there.

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The other documents are the zoning records,

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which now mirror the aerial photograph that I showed you,

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outlining the number of units in the various properties.

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Now, this is a rental license.

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It is inactive, but there are three units there.

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It's our understanding.

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This is an active rental license, three units on the same side of the street, just two doors away.

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1622, four units.

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Again, all candor to the tribunal.

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This is an inactive license.

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This is a zoning permit indicating four dwelling units at 1632,

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which is further down the block, a little bit more west.

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Now we're across the street.

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There's a daycare across the street.

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It's 1603.

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1609 is a two-family.

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1611, two.

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1613, two.

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1615, two.

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1627 is restored at the very end.

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So just in conclusion, we are not impacting the later or heir of any adjacent property.

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We are in harmony with the code.

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We're harmony with the block, harmony with what the community group would like to see.

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We are not really impacting the development of any adjacent property.

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And my client will certainly restore this vacant property to what it once was.

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And with that, I conclude the presentation and ask Ms. Mack, can you unmute yourself?

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Elinor Mack is coming back in as a panelist now chair thank you

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miss mac are you on the call yes i am hi miss mac could you please good afternoon

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could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer yes my name is eleanor mac

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Mac. It's E-L-E-A-N-O-R, Mac, M-A-C-K. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth,

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the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes. Mr. Clinton. Thank you. Hey, Ms. Mac. How are you

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this afternoon? I'm doing well. Thank you. Good. And you were on the call when I presented your

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project to the board? Yes, I was. And if you had the opportunity to testify, would you adopt my

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testimony as your own and as true and correct? Yes. Is there anything that you'd like to add

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that I may have omitted? I think you covered everything. I just want to say that I am looking

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forward to restoring this building. I think it's a beautiful building. I do interior design, and

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I think it's such a shame that the building was left there in that condition, and so I'm hoping

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I get approval to move forward. Thank you, Ms. Mack. Questions from the board? Yes, can you bring up

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the third floor again and just to confirm where there's an addition so there's going to be

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construction and the structure will be altered yes okay right right here where my cursor is

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can you zoom in yes let me do that i'm sorry it's the bedroom and that's not the full extent of the

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building okay yeah right here is the addition then i think my second question is i'm just

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trying to understand this so for the third floor unit how you'll get there is you'll come in the

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door off the porch on the left you're going to walk up the steps is there a switch back at some

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You're going to walk up the steps. Is there a switch back at some point?

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point yes if you go

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Yes. If you go to the, on the second floor. Yeah.

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When you get to the landing upstairs, you turn to your right.

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And that's their Henry. And then the other door.

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So that's going to be their locked door to their unit. So they're correct.

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That's going to be a lot to their unit. Internal. Yes. Yes.

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That's what I was trying to clarify. Thank you.

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All the questions from the board.

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It's good to see that there's no, that you don't go through a bedroom to get to the backyard.

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No.

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Thank you for that.

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Thank you for that.

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And no living in the basement, correct?

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Correct.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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That's a proviso from the nice town.

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Questions from our attorney?

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So, Board Member Wynn raised something I was a little concerned about.

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um this is a change of use application so there's no construction so if you do the addition

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after you get the variance and you're going to have to come back and get a variance to do the

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addition to extend the three or two or whatever the board approves if they approve it to that

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new part of the building yes that is the plan okay so i just want to make sure you're clear

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if the board today grants you know something other than single family at this home if you add

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an addition the your lni is going to make you come back to the board to approve that use in

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the new portion of the building yes i i i understand that okay i just want to make sure

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you're henry henry is that your understanding yes okay all right all right thank you questions or

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comments from the virtual audience?

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There we have Charles Richardson. He has been

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unmuted and allowed to speak.

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and Board.

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We only heard from you once early this morning. I mean, I'm a little

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I don't know what's going on. The rest of my cases were either

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continued or dismissed. Could you just state your name and

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spell it for the stenographer certainly charles richardson r-i-c-h-a-r-d-s-o-n office of

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councilwoman cindy bass room 508 city hall please proceed the councilwoman has no opposition to

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granting the variance thank you very much planning commission good evening chair michael gall with

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the philadelphia city planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends a change in zoning

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at this location from its existing RSA-5 residential single-family attached to RM-1

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residential multifamily. The proposed use would be allowed by right under the proposed zoning.

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Therefore, the City Planning Commission recommends that the board grant the requested

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variance for multifamily use. Thank you. MI-2025-004-491-1614 West Erie Avenue. I vote yes.

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with Proviso. No household living

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in the basement. Michael Johns,

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my vote is yes with Proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote

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is yes with Proviso.

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