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Committee Hearing, March 25, 2003

Philadelphia City Council Committee HearingsMar 25, 2003

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COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - - - Room 696, City Hall Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:15 a.m. - - - BILL NUMBER 03009, an Ordinance amending Chapter 10 19-1800 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "School Tax Authorization," by amending Section 19-180, entitled "Authorization of Net Income Tax," to further authorize the Board of Education of the School District of Philadelphia to impose a tax on net income from real property and tangible and intangible personal property of residents of the School District of Philadelphia; all under certain terms and conditions. BILL NUMBER 030012, an Ordinance amending Chapter 19-1800 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "School Tax Authorization," by amending Section 19-1806 to further authorize the Board of Education of the School District of Philadelphia to impose a tax on the use or occupancy of real estate within the School District of Philadelphia. BILL NUMBER 030013, an Ordinance amending Section 19-1801 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "Authorization of Tax," to further authorize the Board of Education of the School District of Philadelphia to impose a tax on real estate within the City of Philadelphia; and to restate the rates of taxation in tabular form; all under certain terms and conditions. - - - 304 PRESENT: COUNCIL PRESIDENT ANNA C. VERNA COUNCILWOMAN BLONDELL REYNOLDS BROWN COUNCILMAN W. WILSON GOODE, JR. COUNCILMAN JAMES F. KENNEY COUNCILMAN ANGEL L. ORTIZ COUNCILMAN FRANK RIZZO COUNCILMAN FRANK J. DiCICCO COUNCILWOMAN JANNIE L. BLACKWELL COUNCILMAN MICHAEL A. NUTTER COUNCILMAN DARRELL L. CLARKE COUNCILMAN RICHARD T. MARIANO COUNCILWOMAN DONNA REED MILLER COUNCILWOMAN MARIAN B. TASCO COUNCILMAN DAVID COHEN - - - 305

Council President Verna

Good morning, everyone. This is the continued public hearing of the Committee of the Whole regarding Bill 5 Nos. 030009, 030012 and 030013. Our first witness this morning will be will David Glancey. (Mr. Glancey came forward.)

Council President Verna

Good morning, Mr. Glancey, and welcome.

Mr. Glancey

Good morning, Council President.

Council President Verna

Mr. Glancey, as you undoubtedly are aware, the school district has cut from its budget the BRT, I am told, with a savings of approximately four million dollars. Mr. Vallas has indicated the workers are not essential to the district. Can you tell us, for the record, if you will, what the employees do and what it would mean if in fact they were not funded?

Mr. Glancey

Thank you, Madame President. Again, David Glancey, Chairman of the Board of Revision of Taxes. I'm sure everybody here has the best intentions no matter what may be reported or what 306 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE may be said. So let me just be very frank and factual about the work examples of the real property assistants. I've submitted for your edification this morning a sheet that shows typical examples of work, and it's also really a job spec that the real property assistants must follow in order to be an employee at the BRT. Instead of just going over this spec -- the spec can be read -- if I can just give you a couple of examples of how we consider these folks an integral part of what we do at the BRT. Most of you Council people, many of you have been over to our shop for appeals this year.

Council President Verna

Yes, we have.

Mr. Glancey

Richard Haas, who is the appeals, abate and exemption administrator, on his time sheet, Mr. Haas has five out of six of his employees are school district employees. If we didn't have those five employees, we would not have what I consider a very even flow of how the appeals have been processed, how taxpayers have been treated, how the appeals themselves have been heard. Then taking us away from the appeals process, we also run, which I consider and I think 307 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE you agree, a very efficient tax abatement and tax exemption unit, all of which, all of the detailed paper work, all of the paper flow, all of the filing, all of the deed research is done by school board employees. That's really what you see in these typical examples of work. But what I wanted to bring out is that they are fully integrated in what we do. We have, so that everybody knows and we're talking about the right numbers, we have 75 employees currently at the BRT. There are some in the pipeline. I believe there might be two that are currently in the pipeline. We have allocated 85 employees from the school district. The number that I testified to on March 10th I believe is the correct number. It is roughly 3.2 million dollars for the 85 employees that we have. The other example, as I said, that I would like to use about what the school district employees do is that the entire day, when a citizen comes in for an appeal, is basically run by our school board employees. From the time somebody checks in in the morning in our courtroom, they deal with school board employees who do that check-in 308 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE process. During the course of the appeals, they are court officers for us during that process. And when all of the hearings have been heard and all of the folks have left, the school board employees actually are the scribes that make sure that the decisions of the Board of Revision of Taxes are correctly recorded and then passed on to the appeals administrator so that the taxpayers can get notified properly within ten days, which is the shortest period of time I believe in the Commonwealth for any tax agency to notify in writing any of its homeowners of what the results are. So I can't say enough about how integral our school board employees are. And if you don't mind, Madame President, what I would also like to say is that I think the old value of if you share in the benefit, you should share in the cost is something that we should all respect. And it's a very viable value. In this instance, as you well know, 58 percent of whatever is collected by real property taxes -- and I will reiterate we are not the tax person. But what we do, real property taxes are based upon what we do. 58 percent of that goes to 309 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the school district, as you know. And of that -- when I look at my own budget in comparison, it would take about six million dollars from the school district to equate that 58 percent. Another way of looking at it is, again, as I said on March 10th, if every tax dollar were collected today that was owed in real property taxes -- forget appeals, forget delinquencies -- it would be roughly about 500 million dollars. So if we take the school district budget currently, roughly 3.2 million dollars, as a percentage of that 500 million dollars, it's about six-tenths of 1 percent. So I don't believe that we are asking a great deal to have the support of the school district in order to continue it funding these folks. Just let me correct one thing before I finish. It is not something that has taken place for only ten years. This particular cost-sharing and benefit-sharing has taken place for well over 30 years, well over 30 years. At one point actually members of the Board of Revision of Taxes had part of their salary paid by the school district. So I might ask Superintendent Vallas if he could 310 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE supplement my salary today. (Laughter.)

Mr. Glancey

But be that as it may, I would simply like to conclude that they are hopefully in the process of doing what we will do in the year 2004 by way of real property valuations. I will tell you if we lose 75 employees all in one fell swoop, we will not be able to continue with that program nor would anybody who loses 75 employees from their department be able to continue with that. The 2.4 percent that the five-year plan suggests -- and we agree with that, if everything was equal -- that 2.4 percent in real estate growth that is suggested by the five-year plan won't be realized. So with that, if you have any questions, I'd like to thank you.

Council President Verna

Mr. Glancey, you didn't touch on the U & O.

Mr. Glancey

I'm sorry?

Council President Verna

You did not touch on the U & O.

Mr. Glancey

Well, the U & O is roughly half of what the real estate taxes would bring as 311 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE well. So whatever you might lose. If we don't realize any gain or, in fact, if we realize negative growth, that very same situation will take place with the U & O tax.

Council President Verna

Thank you. You spoke about your employees and the appeal system. I just want to publicly thank you. I think today is my last day for appeals.

Mr. Glancey

Yes, I believe it is. But we might have continuances.

Council President Verna

But I just want to say that my constituents had nothing but complimentary remarks on the way they were treated when they went to their appeals hearing, and your employees were very courteous, very helpful. And I want to publicly thank you for that.

Mr. Glancey

Thank you, Madame President.

Council President Verna

At this time the Chair does recognize Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Thank you, Madame President. Madame President, I could certainly make the same level of comment and compliment to 312 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Mr. Glancey, Mr. Davies, and a whole host of other people over at the BRT, including the staff. I think many of us, especially in the past year, have experienced a tremendous level of support and assistance in accommodation as this Council has both struggled with trying to deal with the larger property tax issue, the assessment system, as well as now the appeals process. And in my time here, I think the past year I've spent more time and phone activity with the BRT than any other year in my experience. In addition, I understand that because of numerous, at times onerous, data requests, there may be a need to upgrade the research and analysis unit at the BRT. I think the concern before us today is or should be framed in the context of important essential work is being done. Decisions were made some time ago about where certain individuals should be placed from a payroll standpoint. I believe, at least for myself, there's no question that we're talking about an essential and important function for the city, for the school district, for the taxpayers and for the homeowners 313 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE and property owners in Philadelphia. I believe that the BRT does provide the level of supervision and management of the staff. There's no department or entity in this government, including the one that I sit in, that cannot benefit from changes, upgrades, improvements. And so we don't need to debate those fine points. Both of these governments who are wed to each other in many ways, the city and the school district, need each other from a variety of standpoints. We need the revenues that are generated and the work that is done. Both governments, though, are facing severe financial pressures. It is quite interesting that the BRT was one of the agencies that came in this year and actually asked for additional funding support, and so far is actually, I understand, engaged in a discussion that may actually lead to that, which is unlike many other departments. But I think all of us have learned some big lessons in the course of this year. I think what I'd like to suggest is -- I'd like say one thing and suggest another. One, I 314 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE strongly support the staff and the workers, and specifically, the individuals that we're talking about with regard to this budgetary item. I support their work. I support their need to do what they do, and the city and the school district are the beneficiaries of that work. My suggestion is that the two heads of the organizations, Chairman Glancey and his board, CEO Vallas and his management staff, take the opportunity in a slightly smaller, somewhat less public forum and let's have a serious financial discussion and a management operation discuss about who does what for whom, how does it get done and who pays for it, and whether that's a proportional cost based on who's getting what out of property tax assessment and the ultimate receipt of those revenues. All of those kinds of discussions I think should be on the table. But the answers will not necessarily be derived in this room. We may hear about the solution in this room. We will not get the answer and the development of a game plan in this particular room. But I think your presence and the statement for the record as to what goes on over 315 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE there and standing up for the staff and the employees is important. So anything that we can do to assist in that process, that leads to what I think is critically important. You can call it a memorandum of understanding. You can call it a cooperation agreement between the two entities.

Councilman Nutter

Something that gives both the school district a comfort level about what goes on and how it goes on and why should there be any cost-sharing at all, while at the same time allowing the BRT to know that it has a stable, secure staff providing an essential function that leads to funding for both the school district and the City of Philadelphia. So I don't think there's a big debate about is there a need. I don't even really want to have that discussion. What I want to talk about is who pays for it, how does it get done, and does the school district know that people who are not in school buildings, who are not teaching children, which is their essential mission, but who are doing another job. And I said to the CEO yesterday that if it came to pass and if we played this out to its 316 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE illogical conclusion that somehow the people were not there, I don't necessarily know that that helps the school district generate 447 million dollars or the city to get over 300 million dollars in real estate tax. So we know that that's not an answer. We know that not performing assessment functions next year or this year, this summer is not an answer. So we already know what we're not going to do. What we do need to do -- and if I can assist with an introduction, Mr. Glancey, Mr. Vallas, you're here ten feet away from each other. Please acquaint or reacquaint yourselves with each other and let's work on a cooperation agreement between the two governmental entities and then let us know what that result is or how we can assist in moving things forward. I don't think we need to have a big fight about this. But both the CEO and Mr. Glancey I know are serious about their concerns here and about the need to get something done. And I support your efforts in trying to make a partnership out of this current situation. Thank you, Madame Chair. 317 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Council President Verna

Thank you. And if need be, Mr. McPherson will be available to be of assistance.

Mr. Glancey

Thank you, Madame President.

Council President Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Thank you, Madame President. Yesterday's testimony from Mr. Vallas, I did not read or understand him to say that the employees there weren't necessary. I think there's an issue of ambiguity as to what the roles and duties are. And maybe it's a function of the newness of the management group at the school district. And I also fully accept your explanation and position that these employees are absolutely needed because of their ability, experience, the ability to work with the taxpayer, to soften the blow, so to speak, of the things that we get complained about from our constituents. They are people who are good public service oriented people, who do a good job, and also perform a function that 318 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE is critical to raising money, as Michael said, for the school district and for the city. In the past the city has done kind of unique things to help the school district reduce its costs, unique types of legislation that we've done for deficit financing, issues relative to trash collection and things that the city used to bill the school district for that they either don't bill them anymore for or bill them less. I think there may be a way to find a creative solution to this funding problem or this expense problem in that kind of environment. And I do believe that both individuals, yesterday Mr. Vallas and you today, are speaking truthfully and from the heart as to what their missions are. I think that one of the odd parts about this whole process is that we really don't approve the budget. We had this kind of discussion yesterday with Councilman Nutter that we really do listen to the budget, we hear about what the initiatives are, what the funding issues are, but our only ability is to reauthorize the tax collection again. So we're kind of in an awkward situation 319 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE here. We really can't change it. We can assist in helping everybody get where they want to be. But I think both positions are valid. He's looking for ways to save money for the kids, and you're looking to continue your operation which is critical to the needs of the city. So I agree with Councilman Nutter. I think there's a way we can solve this in a creative way. Thanks.

Mr. Glancey

Thank you, Councilman. And I would just say to both you and to Councilman Nutter I clearly am someone who does like to sit down and talk and see how we can resolve these things by consensus. And Mr. Vallas and I spoke this morning really for the first time. But having spoken with Mr. Vallas, I understand what his mission is. I mean, he clearly has a very tough job.

Councilman Kenney

So do you, Dave. (Laughter.)

Mr. Glancey

I do. And I think that Mr. Vallas and I can easily sit down with the help of Mr. McPherson, and I think we can work this situation out. We've kind of started already this 320 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE morning in some preliminary things.

Councilman Kenney

Good luck. Thanks.

Council President Verna

Thank you. Are there any other questions or comments from members of the Committee? (No response.)

Council President Verna

Seeing none, thank you, Mr. Glancey.

Mr. Glancey

Back to the appeals, Madame President.

Council President Verna

Please do. Hurry back. They're mine. May I suggest that Mr. Vallas and Mr. Harris -- I don't see that Mr. Nevels is here -- please take the witness table. (Mr. Vallas and Mr. Harris came forward.)

Council President Verna

Mr. Harris, can you tell us how do you expect the Access medicaid reimbursements increasing by eight million dollars? Can you tell us how comfortable you are that you will be receiving that money?

Mr. Vallas

Before Mike gets into the details, Madame President, if I could just make some 321 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE general comments. Last year we generated about four million in medicaid reimbursements. In Chicago, a district twice as large, I generated one year 54 million dollars in medicaid reimbursements, even with the tightening of the medicaid reimbursement rules, because there's been a reluctance by Health and Human Services to view school districts as social service agencies. So there's certainly been some competition. Our reimbursements before I left dropped to about 30, 32 million dollars. So just proportionally there is considerably more money in medicaid reimbursements to be had simply if we bill for all the things that we feel is eligible to be secured. So the district has not been very aggressive about billing for all the things that we can secure reimbursements for when it comes to providing checkups and vision testing and eyeglass examinations. School districts of comparable size generally secure at least two to three times as much in medicaid reimbursements. The number that we're using next year I believe is five million dollars. Is that right, 322 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Mike?

Mr. Vallas

So we've incrementally increased that. But I believe that the potential out there is for us to secure as much as ten million. We hope to get there, but we don't anticipate being there next year. We think it's going to be a couple years to get to that ten million dollar mark. But the consultants that we have brought in, who incidently are from Boston and actually did the same type of assessment of our medicaid system in Chicago that generated one year in excess of 50 million dollars, they have estimated that the potential in reimbursements could be as high as anywhere from 14 to 17 million dollars if we simply follow the appropriate procedures.

Mr. Harris

Council President, there are a number of steps that we're taking. By bringing in the consulting firm that CEO Vallas referred to, they're national experts in accessing Access funds. They have worked well in Chicago and many other large districts around the country. We have full confidence in them, and we have tightened 323 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE up the relationship between the finance department and the special education department. We are communicating to health care providers the importance of participating in Access payments. We are having Access training sessions. We have improved parental notification of medicare Access eligibility. We're going into another phase that will probably be a little bit longer to implement, which will be dealing with hand-held reporting devices in the school district. It's something we're exploring with to allow the employees at the school base level to be able to report faster and better. We have made it in such a way that on a number of different fronts we are pushing the envelope to make sure that we're getting as much as we can back through Access. And we are making sure that documentation and billing procedures are up to industry standards. With the help of PCG, the firm that we've engaged to manage and help us do this, we do believe that we'll be able to achieve the numbers, and eventually in excess of the numbers that we've projected. 324 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilman Rizzo

Point of information.

Council President Verna

Yes. The Chair recognizes Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

To the school district, could I suggest that after hearing today the fact that there's information maybe out there that the various city agencies need to get together on, could I suggest that maybe you and the health department, the health commissioner get together and possibly join hands? There may be some savings utilizing some of the established processes that they have already, especially with the district health centers that are scattered throughout the city, and going after some of the potential reimbursements that they take advantage of. You know, you could join hands here and maybe not reinvent the wheel.

Mr. Harris

I agree, Councilman. And we believe, especially with our special education division, are working as close with the health department as it can. What we're focused right now on are the Special Ed employees and the nurses in the schools that are basically our employees at the moment. 325 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE But we do want to get into -- we're working close to have a tighter relationship with the health department. And I appreciate that suggestion.

Mr. Vallas

I think it's a splendid idea. Let me point out, though, that the health department has been terrific. Our coordination of the STD testing and treatment has just been phenomenal. It's been very well received. And that obviously is a very controversial issue. So I have nothing but the greatest praise for the health commissioner on so many fronts. But I think working together to maximize our medicaid reimbursements is something that we should pool resources for. I'm also looking for a greater opportunity to work with the state agencies too because in the past the state itself has not accessed all the medicaid reimbursements that they're eligible for. And there is a state role to play. But obviously with the new leadership team the new governor has brought in, we feel very optimistic that we're going to be able to far exceed these numbers. 326 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilman Rizzo

Thank you very much.

Mr. Vallas

Madame President, we provided the information -- if I could just take a minute to respond to your request yesterday.

Council President Verna

Which request was that?

Mr. Vallas

You had made three or four basic information requests. We have them in the folder. If I can just take a minute and explain what we've provided you all with.

Council President Verna

Yes. Fine.

Mr. Vallas

Included is the letter that you requested regarding the Thomas School.

Council President Verna

Oh, I have that. Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

Mr. Vallas

In the packet is the information that various members requested. First, a more detailed breakdown by council district of CIP projects or capital projects. And of course, this is not a complete list because we really only focused on --

Council President Verna

Excuse me, Mr. Vallas. Is that presently being circulated to the Council members? 327 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Vallas

Yes. It will be in the packet that will be circulated.

Council President Verna

Do you mind if we receive it while you're talking about it so that we can look at it?

Mr. Vallas

Absolutely.

Council President Verna

All right, Mr. Vallas. I think everyone has received a copy.

Mr. Vallas

Well, in the packet is proposed CIP projects by council district. Now, let me point out that it doesn't include all the allocated dollars because we have not finalized even our preliminary plan on how we're going to allocate the money over a five-year period. But I know in individual briefings with Council members we've gone through many of these projects. And of course, this plan is a plan that will be adjusted every single year. But at least it lays out some preliminary projects. In addition, in the packet itself, on the right-hand side, we have a detailed, a more detailed breakdown that Councilman Nutter requested of the proposed budget adjustments. And this lays out those proposed budget adjustments in detail. 328 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE It is then followed by something that Councilwoman Reynolds Brown requested. And that was a breakout of our Office of Procurement Services, our MBE/WBE recruitment efforts. This is going to be our strategy for making sure that when we set targets and goals for MBE/WBE, those targets and goals are complied with. Then in the left-hand packet, third, is a summary of our compliance with the No Child Left Behind legislation. It shows what we're doing to comply with the four phases of No Child Left Behind, something, Madame President, that you had requested. Then fourth, something that the President had also requested was an updated organizational chart of the school district. I see what's missing here is the phone numbers. I'll make sure I get you the phone numbers. But this gives you the organizational chart. Then in the right-hand packet is something that was requested by a number of individuals, Councilman Rizzo specifically. And that is a copy of the Code of Conduct. And attached to that copy of the Code of Conduct is a more detailed breakdown of our discipline policy, a chart 329 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE talking about expulsions and transfers outside the district, followed by the procedures for disciplinary transfer requests and an explanation of Act 26. So I believe this was the information that was specifically requested. Let me also make a point that the size of the central office administration this year, as of today, over last year is percent smaller. And 10 after this budget is approved, it will probably be 11 about 20 percent smaller. So the central office 12 reorganization has actually resulted in a downsizing 13 of the central office, and that downsizing is going 14 to continue. As of today, there are over a thousand fewer employees in the school district than there were a year ago at this date. And that is before this budget is introduced. So when I lay out that organizational chart, I just want to put that organizational chart into perspective. But obviously as more information is requested, we will provide more detailed information.

Council President Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Brown.

Councilwoman Brown

Thank you, Madame 330 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Chair. Good morning, gentlemen.

Mr. Vallas

Good morning.

Mr. Harris

Good morning.

Councilwoman Brown

I first would like to comment on an issue and concern raised by my colleague, Councilman Jim Kenney, yesterday, an issue that I too care very much about, and that is this notion of vocational education and what that means. I need to say thank you for your acknowledgment of the fact that, just as we get young people on track for higher education, we need a plan as well to get them on track for vocational education, and more importantly, for the opportunities that come after that; and also your understanding that the time is ripe to put young people on track for all of the issues raised by Councilman Ortiz around the building of new schools and what that means for our city. So unfortunately yesterday I had to take care of my own daughter at a public school and couldn't get that on the record. To that end, with regards to students in high schools, I'd like to 331 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE talk a little bit about your counselors and the like. On of your testimony, you mentioned that you'll be doubling the amount of counselors in high schools. My initial concern rests with a couple of calls I received from the office of counselors who are also asked to teach for obvious reasons because the teachers aren't in the school. So with the new counselors that you have on line, what will be the expectation of counselors currently in place?

Mr. Vallas

The expectations -- and I've been joined by Creg Williams. If there are additional questions obviously related to high schools, Creg is our director of high school programs. But the problem with counselors are twofold. There's one counselor for every 1,000 students, if you can believe it. I mean, it's unbelievable. I think we have what? 126 counselors or something?

Mr. Creg Williams

113.

Mr. Vallas

113 counselors in this 332 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE entire school system. And of course, then most of the counselors end up not being able to do any counseling because they have related functions. Our goal here is to get the counselors back to counseling. First of all, to at least double the size of the counselor corps, and then to basically have those counselors be used exclusively on providing counseling services. We're going to supplement that by creating that we call student support centers. These will be centers that will overseen by counselors or adults. But they will be centers that have individuals from the community, partnerships with our interfaith, mentors, role models and seniors, all working in the student support centers providing information about like SAT prep, college entrance exams, college preparatory, college choices, because the goal here is -- you know, even two counselors, even one counselor for every 500 is just -- we need many more resources than that. So while we're going to double the number of counselors and free up their responsibilities so they're focusing exclusively on counseling duties, our game plan through our student 333 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE support centers and through such programs as City Ear, as well as through some programs like I cited yesterday, College Summit, is to create student support centers that access other resources in the schools and in the communities that can participate and support the counselors and the counsel functions.

Councilwoman Brown

The student support centers, that sounds like a new phenomenon for the Philadelphia public school system. Is that a tried, proven practice?

Mr. Vallas

Yes. You know, a lot of times students will not readily go to adults to communicate problems but they may go to other students. And normally -- and we weren't the only city previous to have done it. Other cities have student support centers. But they're a place where the students can go to access information about colleges, about SAT prep. They can access tutoring help, because our game plan is part of our student jobs program is to, in effect, hire students and pay students a stipend to tutor younger students. So you can go to the student support center to access all sorts of 334 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE help. But occasionally, there are going to be more serious concerns and there are going to be more serious requests. And that's where that individual will be referred to the professional counselor. But a lot of what is requested is information that can be provided sometimes by seniors and sometimes by people in the community, parents who may be working in the schools. We have 70 or 80 City Ear employees through the City Ear program. That's part of the national -- the kind of domestic Peace Corps program. So they're going to be all employed in kind of a counseling support function. So just doubling the number of counselors is not going to be all that we're going to do. But our goal next year is to have student support centers in all the schools as centers that are staffed all through the school day and that have the resources to respond to a student's concern.

Councilwoman Brown

The value of counselors is a segue to the issue of school safety. When you cited your priority areas yesterday, your first one was school safety. 335 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE In addition to school crossing guards around the school, and blinking lights, is there anything else in regard to student safety around the schools that we should be aware of that is used to promote school safety?

Mr. Vallas

We're really trying to push what we call the parent truant officer program or Safe Corridors program. Our goal next year is to have parent truant officers or Safe Corridors -- different school districts call it different things -- in all of the schools. So in addition to having crossing guards, there are parent patrols. There are parent patrols who are walking the routes to and from school. It's also been known as the Walking School Bus. While we have some parent patrols, our goal here is to expand the number of parents and community volunteers who are on the street. And the goal here is to bring them in. Obviously, we can't pay -- I mean, there is such a thing as volunteerism. But to provide them with distinguishing jackets and with communication devices like walkie-talkies and to, in effect, make 336 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE sure that every single school has a parent/community patrol who can walk the routes to and from school, can stand on the street corners, can cover the corners that perhaps crossing guards do not cover. So I would characterize that as probably one of our biggest new initiatives next year. But also let me point out that in this past year we've expanded the number of partnerships with community-based organizations in the formation of regional crisis teams, working with PAAN, working with ASPIRA, working with a number of community-based organizations. All of our nine regions are linked up and hooked up with community-based organizations and with, in some cases, religious institutions. So that when there is a school that is a hot spot, when there is a problem in a school or in the community, we can saturate that school or saturate that community with crisis intervention officers. We've done it at Audenried. We've done it at Overbrook. We've done it at Gillespie. We've done it at many elementary schools and middle schools where there have been problems not only in the schools, but in the community themselves. 337 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE So the goal here is to have crisis resources that can be accessed at a moment's notice and dispatched to areas where we're having significant problems.

Councilwoman Brown

One final question around safety. I know that due diligence is given to crimes that happen inside the school walls. Do you keep track of crimes or incidents that occur involving our students outside the school or nearby the school?

Councilwoman Brown

And do you have some designated perimeter?

Mr. Vallas

No. Our policy is 16 hours, 24-hour-a-day zero tolerance policy. And the 17 way that works is if you are arrested for assault 18 and battery on Sunday, we'll be processing you for 19 expulsion the following week. 20 In fact, that policy is being challenged 21 in the courts. And I think we just won the first 22 preliminary challenge to that where we basically 23 expelled a student from a specific school or 24 transferred a student from a specific school for fighting, for being involved in a fight at a party 338 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE that weekend because it basically was a violation of the 24-hour-a-day zero tolerance policy. Also, let me point out that any time a child is a victim of violence in the school system or any time a child's parent is the victim of some tragedy, we will send crisis teams out to the schools. It doesn't matter whether it happened on school grounds or not. Any time there's an accident, any time there's a tragedy, we dispatch crisis teams not only to the schools, even if it didn't happen in the schools. But we dispatch crisis teams to the homes. In some cases we provide counseling, psychological support. Sometimes there may be a tragedy where an individual cannot pay for funeral expenses. In those cases, through our solicitation of donations, we've been able to finance funerals. So we've really taken it a step further. Not only do we have a 24-hour zero tolerance policy, but we also have a 24-hour crisis intervention policy. Any time it impacts our kids or the family of our kids, we're going to dispatch personnel to the home and the following school day to the school.

Councilwoman Brown

The matters that 339 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE come to our attention where young people are involved in school skirmishes, of course we refer them to Dexter Green. I actually have a situation right now where the neighbors are concerned. So just forward that to Mr. Green?

Mr. Vallas

Yes. And Dexter Green works very closely with Vern Trent in our special education department, who dispatches the counselors and counseling support. And he also works very closely with Gwen Morris, who you met yesterday, who manages student discipline and alternative schools. In addition, Nilsa Gonzalez, who oversees our schools and regions, she is the direct point of contact with our nine regional superintendents. She is also engaged. We actually have a public safety committee that meets regularly and includes representatives from the city and other agencies. But she is there to make sure that the regional superintendents are dispatching their crisis intervention people. So it's really kind of a three-prong, four-prong intervention and support plan. And it's something that we've done before. It's something that I've personally done before. 340 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE In my previous job, we actually created a crisis intervention fund. We raised about two hundred, three hundred thousand dollars a year through private donations. We paid for intervention, support. We paid for over a hundred funerals over a period of six years, children or family members who have been the victims of tragedy. And the bottom line is those are things that we plan on replicating here and we've begun the process of doing that. It doesn't mean that we're going to be able to respond to every event. It does not mean -- as Councilman Rizzo pointed out yesterday, sometimes things are going to fall through the cracks on the disciplinary side. But the bottom line is the mechanism is there for not only disciplining students, but also for intervening in tragedies and crisis situations. And as the months go on, those instruments and those institutions will grow sharper as they get used to the new setup.

Councilwoman Brown

Madame President, I presume takes care of my five minutes.

Council President Verna

Thank you. Mr. Vallas, we did receive a copy of the 341 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE proposed CIP projects by council districts. However, I don't see anything in here for Districts 8, 9, and 10.

Mr. Vallas

We'll correct that. We'll see if we just deleted a page or we omitted a page. We'll get the original copy out and we'll replace the copies that are out there.

Council President Verna

That would be fine, because I'm sure the Council members in those districts would like to see it during the hearings.

Mr. Vallas

Also, let me point out just as a point of record, we have met with individual Council members when we laid out our capital plan individually. And in cases where the Council members had conflicting schedules, they sent their staff aides. And in those meetings, we provided them with detailed information on all of their capital plans. But we'll make sure that the document we put out is updated in case anything is missing, Madame President.

Council President Verna

Thank you. I noticed that in my district there are a number of schools that are not mentioned at all. 342 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Does that mean there will not be any improvements, whether it be site improvements? And maybe you can tell us what the difference is between a site improvement and renovations.

Mr. Vallas

What we've listed here are what we consider to be the major capital improvements. There's 200 million dollars plus in additional work that's going to be done. And those are what we call the maintenance and the minor improvement nature. When we talk about these projects like major renovations and site improvements and new construction, we've really tried to list some of the bigger ticket items. Now, this doesn't mean nothing is going to be done in the schools. For example, I mentioned the other day the Minutemen programs.

Council President Verna

Excuse me. Did you say the Minutemen?

Mr. Vallas

Yes. We've organized our operations people into repair teams of about 20, 22 people. We called them Minutemen. Obviously, we 23 were looking for something patriotic here and 24 relevant to the Philadelphia experience. 25 We deployed -- we sent teams out to 343 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE individual schools, and they literally spent two to three weeks at that given school and they repair everything. They repaint. They replace tiles. They varnish the floors. They renovate anything, any interior work that needs to be done. They catch up on the job orders. So those projects are not listed because we consider those to be -- many of those basic renovation and repair projects to be things that we should normally be doing and they are not projects of an extraordinary nature. I think we're going to be doing upwards of 40 schools a year. So this does not include that basic interior facelift that we're going to be doing, that we're going to be giving to individual schools. So those are not laid out. On the cover sheet of the proposed projects, we've also listed 226 million dollars in specific money that has yet to be allocated for even some of the larger projects. So we're far from finished.

Council President Verna

All right. Because I didn't see schools like Barratt, Cramp, Girard. Many of them are not on my list. I think I 344 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE have four schools that you mentioned here. I want to make sure that everybody's treated equally and fairly.

Mr. Vallas

Yes, absolutely.

Council President Verna

At this time the Chair recognizes Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Thank you. Good morning.

Mr. Vallas

Good morning.

Councilwoman Tasco

Sorry I had to leave yesterday. I didn't get a chance to ask some of the questions. I hope that these questions have not been asked. I have a couple in reference to your testimony. You talked about providing daycare and in-service child care. I wanted to ask you, what are you doing, what is the district doing to work with males and females regarding the prevention of pregnancy?

Mr. Vallas

We are revamping the school district's what we call family health curriculum with an eye towards not only updating that curriculum and doing what we're required by law to do in that curriculum, but to also stress very 345 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE importantly the importance of students not engaging in that type of activity. Some people have asked us to characterize our health care curriculum or our teen pregnancy curriculum, and I would say that it's an abstinence first, not abstinence only. I mean, we have an obligation to teach preventive measures. And we feel doing that and expanding our relationship and partnerships -- for example, the development of our values and character education curriculum and the additional counseling that we'll provide in the schools, we think that that will help us be more aggressive on this whole issue of teen pregnancy and students engaging in those types of activities. Also, let me point out that as part of our partnership with the health department, as you know, about six months ago the health department conducted a voluntary examination of 1200 students in two high schools to test for sexually transmitted diseases. And the number of students who tested positive for chlamydia was startling, to say the least. And obviously, that was well publicized. Since then we have been partnering with 346 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the health department in a campaign to not only go into every school and provide voluntary testing, but also to provide voluntary treatment. And so far we're doing about two high schools I think every two to three weeks. When we go into high schools, we send letters out to all the parents, although obviously we have to provide testing and we are not required -- in fact, I think we're prevented by law from doing parental notification if we're going to do testing. It's something that a student can voluntarily do if they're over the age of 15. But the response has been extraordinarily positive. We've been going through high schools. The response from the parents and from the community have been positive because of our education campaign. But as part of this campaign, we have not only been going in and doing the testing and doing the treatment, but it's also been an education campaign. It's also been an wake-up call. So we see it as much a detection and treatment -- as much an education program as a detection and treatment program because now children 347 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE and their parents are finally waking up to the fact that, hey, I better pay attention or be more attentive about what my child is doing and the type of activities that my child might be engaged in. In addition to this, as part of our early childhood program expansion, we're going to be establishing a program which I refer to as the Cradle to the Classroom program. And this is a program by which in all the neighborhood high schools we'll be identifying pregnant teens. We'll be providing the pregnant teens with a parent counselor, parent trainer. The game plan will be to make sure the babies are born healthy, put in daycare and preschool, and that the pregnant teen remains in high school. And we feel that this will also be an aggressive campaign, an aggressive effort at reducing the number of repeat pregnancies. About 90 percent of the young ladies who become pregnant and drop out of high school within the next five years get pregnant a second time. So obviously there's a crisis. Now, we ran a previous program in my previous superintendentship. We had about 2500 348 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE students participate through the program. The graduation rate exceeded 90 percent, and only four pregnant teens got pregnant a second time during the two years, on average, that they were in that program. So, again, those are some of the things that we're going to do, revamping and upgrading the health care curriculum, number one, and providing more counseling support.

Mr. Vallas

Number two, our sexually transmitted disease education plan, the education plan, the approach that we're taking when we go into schools and we're providing the voluntary testing, the additional educational approach that accompanies it. Then, number three, the Cradle to the Classroom program to deal with teens who, in fact, have become pregnant, to make sure that they stay in high school and that there is not a repeat pregnancy and that the babies are born healthy, put in daycare and put in preschool so that they're ready for kindergarten when they come of age.

Councilwoman Tasco

Are you limited to education to just those students who participate in the voluntary testing plan? How do you reach every 349 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE student in the high school about sexually transmitted diseases, about pregnancy prevention? Is it solely voluntary?

Mr. Vallas

No. Beyond the curriculum, beyond the incorporating of --

Councilwoman Tasco

Is there curriculum provided to everyone? Are they exposed to it?

Councilwoman Tasco

Or is it a selective basis?

Mr. Vallas

Oh, no, no. The curriculum applies to everyone, and the curriculum is incorporated into our general curriculum. In fact, as I talked yesterday, as we move towards developing our new curriculum instructional models, we're doing reading and math first. And we hope within the next two years to have our science and social studies models. We've talked about integrating more of our health curriculum into our general science curriculum so that we can, in effect, just not say, well, now we're going to take the health classes as much as we integrated into our general science classes. But this curriculum is dispensed, is 350 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE communicated, is a part of the instructional requirements for all students. But when we do the sexually transmitted disease testing in the schools, we come in with a campaign to alert all the students in the schools as to the dangers of engaging in that type of behavior. And the testing is certainly an indication of what the repercussions are for that type of behavior. So that type of educational impact is felt through the entire school. It's just the testing is voluntary and treatment is voluntary.

Councilwoman Tasco

Okay. Thank you. Let me talk to you a little about your diversity curriculum. You talked about your curriculum models yesterday, and you said you're going to incorporate a diversity curriculum. Will that be in all of the schools? Will it be a selective curriculum or is it integrated that everybody is exposed to the various ethnic groups that you talk about?

Mr. Vallas

It will be in all of the schools. And let me summarize again. It will be in all of the schools because the Harcourt Trophies and the Great Books -- the Harcourt Trophies core 351 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE curriculum, reading curriculum that we will use is a multi-cultural curriculum. The Great Books and the Junior Great Books, the 100 Great Books and the Junior Great Books are going to have to meet the multi-cultural standards in order to be used as curriculum supplements. And once the social studies curriculum models have been developed -- and that's going to take a couple years to do -- both American history and world history will be basically an event-focused history and a history that examines the entire American experience, or for that matter, that the history of the world should not just be the history of western civilization. So those things obviously -- so in those areas, in those areas, both in terms of the reading curriculum and the social studies curriculum, as well as the literacy supplements, multi-culturalism will be embedded, will be infused in those curriculums and instructional models. But we will also be designing a number of courses that we will offer in the high schools that can be used for graduation credit. So students will have the option of taking African-American 352 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE history or African history or the History of Blacks in America or a History of Asian Countries. So the objective here is to offer multi-cultural courses that basically deal with the experiences that reflect the diversity of our student population. So in addition to being immersed in the reading curriculum and in the literacy support supplemental curriculum, like 100 Books and Great Books, and in addition to being part of the revamped social studies curriculum, we will also be designing specific courses that will be offered and that can be used and substituted for other courses at the high school level.

Councilwoman Tasco

Another question I have, and I hope I can -- oh, what about -- give me the status of the Gear Up program. What's happening with that?

Mr. Vallas

Can I provide you with that in writing? Or would you like me to talk to that now?

Councilwoman Tasco

I would just like to know the status. Is it still ongoing?

Mr. Vallas

Yes, it is.

Councilwoman Tasco

I don't need to 353 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE know about the program. I know all about the program and what it does.

Mr. Vallas

The status is Gear Up is still -- in fact, I'll let Creg just make some comments on Gear Up.

Councilwoman Tasco

Briefly. Who is the new director?

Mr. Vallas

High schools, Creg Williams.

Mr. Creg Williams

Good morning. Currently we're still in the process of offering our Gear Up program. The Gear Up program is currently in both middle as well as high schools. We're going into the fourth year I believe of a five-year grant. And we anticipate rolling some extended monies over into extending the grant an additional year. We are in the process of looking at all of the programs and all of the opportunities that are offered to our young people. The major focus obviously of the Gear Up grant is to prepare young people to be exposed to and begin to prepare for college. We're going to look at that focus and make sure that that is, in fact, what's being done with the Gear Up funding as we close out the Gear Up 354 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE opportunity. One other thing I'd like to point out. One of the things that we have to do with Gear Up is to ensure that the activities can be sustained after the grant has indeed expired. So we're most certainly looking at that as well.

Councilwoman Tasco

That's a federal grant?

Mr. Creg Williams

Yes.

Councilwoman Tasco

Do you see any opportunity for it to be extended by the federal government?

Mr. Creg Williams

Chaka Fattah has actually been our lead person in terms of that grant. The federal government has not indicated at this point whether or not there will be a national expansion of that grant. However, we are closely monitoring and making sure that we're staying in tune and in touch with what the legislation is doing as it relates to that grant.

Councilwoman Tasco

Now, I'm sorry I missed you. This is also political season too. That's why you see all this flurry up here. It's kind of hard to be focused. 355 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE (Laughter.)

Councilwoman Tasco

Are you tracking the number of students who have participated in the Gear Up to see how many of them have gone to college? Is that something that you do ongoing or is that something that you plan to do?

Mr. Creg Williams

Actually, with the Gear Up grant -- as I indicated a moment ago, we're in the fourth year of the Gear Up grant. The students who initially started in the Gear Up process began in 7th and 8th grades. So this would be the first senior year I think of a true senior class that we can literally track who have been a part of the Gear Up. However, there's been some small tracking of students in those schools who are not necessarily part of the funding from that. But this will be the first out year that we will actually be able to look and see if the students who participated as a result of funding are indeed going on to full secondary training.

Councilwoman Tasco

Okay. Thank you very much. I read someplace that there is some concern about this program being folded into another 356 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE program. I can't remember exactly what it was. But another federal government program.

Mr. Creg Williams

No, I'm not aware.

Councilwoman Tasco

Okay. Thank you. One other question before my time is up. I have my notes down here, and since this was yesterday and I can't remember, maybe I can try and put it in context. We were talking about accountability. And I wanted to know what is the accountability of the private managed schools? What is their relationship to you and who holds them accountable? And you also talked I think something about the curriculum models and whether or not they would be incorporated. I know the charter schools are somewhat different. But the managed schools are still part of us, it seems to me, if I understand it correctly. What is their -- who are they accountable to and who holds them accountable?

Mr. Vallas

Let me point out that both the privately managed schools and the charter schools and the public schools are subject to the same accountability requirements. And our 357 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE accountability standards are standards that we have developed so that they are, first of all, accountability standards that achieve our educational objectives, which is to set standards and then to give schools the means to meet those standards. But those accountability standards are also consistent with the accountability provisions under the No Child Left Behind Act. And those provisions, those standards -- and Joe Jacovino is here to discuss whatever details of standards you may need. But the objective here is to hold all schools accountable to the same standards, whether they're EMO schools, privately managed schools, charter schools, whatever. To hold them accountable and to take appropriate action if those schools are not complying to the standards. Now, we, of course, cannot dictate curriculum to either the charters or the privately managed schools. We can't dictate personnel decisions to the charters or the privately managed schools. But they are required to take the PSSA. They are required to take the TerraNova exam, which we require of the balance of the system. They are required to have after school, extended day and 358 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE summer school or some sort of intervention program or additional time on task for students that are academically struggling. So we have set certain objectives that they need to be adhering to. But at the end of the day we will evaluate them looking at test scores, graduation rates, attendance rates, overall management of their financial resources, the same criteria that we are using to evaluate our public schools. And let me point out that while we have obviously approved many charters, we've also taken steps to decertify charters that we don't feel have been living up to the standards. And while it's too early in the life of most of the EMO's to evaluate the quality of their educational programs, we will be making some suggestions relative to the EMO's in the coming weeks. And ultimately, all the EMO's will be judged using the same academic accountability standards as we're subjecting the public schools to. We've also created a unit to oversee both EMO's, privately managed schools and the construction of the new high schools. And that unit 359 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE is headed by Ellen Savitz. And the reason we picked Ellen for that job, and her team, is because we want all our new high schools to be like Kappa. And Ellen certainly has always had an appreciation for alternative management structures. I mean, the construction of Kappa in many respects was something that was done without a whole lot of support from the established system, the school system. So the bottom line is she's sensitive obviously to their needs and priorities. But at the same time she is obsessed with accountability and they're subjected to the same standards.

Councilwoman Tasco

One last question for me, I believe. I have the list of the proposed projects, construction and/or renovation projects by district. And I do not see the 9th Council District. Does that mean that all our schools are top rate?

Mr. Vallas

We may have left out a page. But as you know, Councilwoman, we had an opportunity to talk, a couple of occasions where we talked about the projects. I actually think -- we had a whole host of requests. And I think we slipped on the Xeroxing. But as you know, we spent 360 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE a lot of time going over your proposals, along with a number of other things. So we're circulating a new list now. And let me point out that that is not the complete list because we haven't earmarked all the money and every year we will adjust that list. And I know we're in discussions with many of the Council people, including you, Councilwoman, about some additional new school options, as we talked about Olney and we talked about Logan and some others. So that is kind of what we're locked into right now. But that list is going to be evolving and changing as we go along.

Councilwoman Tasco

Thank you. I was really referring to -- you really had some specific concerns about Olney.

Mr. Vallas

Well, we need a new Olney. There's no doubt about that. Right now, we're wrestling to see whether or not -- believe it or not, there was a little tug of war, fix only or build a new one. I think we're drifting into the -- we're leaning towards building a new one. But once again we're hopeful we're going 361 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE to be able to secure federal QZAB dollars, which is the federal school construction program dollars. But we need a new Olney. I mean, that building needs to be built. Someone asked me about Overbrook the other day. I mean, ultimately you need a new state-of-the-art high school. You can't have high schools where you've got to be worried about what's happening on the 4th and 5th floor. So there's a lot of needs that need to be done and we're working towards that. But again, let me lay out perspective. This addresses about half the capital needs in our system. We have at least three billion to three and a half billion in needs. And while people have been surprised at the size of the capital program, once you identify and earmark the money to many of the projects, you're left saying, well, what about this school and that school, because there's been decades of neglect. In fact, during a ten-year period in the late eighties and early nineties, there was literally not a dollar spent on school construction whatsoever. So we're playing catch-up. But we're 362 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE going to continue to try to secure additional funds so that we can expand our programs. And we will continue to be accessible to all of you individually, as we've endeavored to do, so that we can modify proposals or reconsider other proposals as we go along.

Councilwoman Tasco

I do have one other question, and it's very important. Matter of fact, yesterday I know Councilman Ortiz talked a lot about the number of measures that you will use to increase minority participation in your capital plan. Our Commerce and Economic Development Committee is having ongoing hearings regarding minority contractors and other general contractors who don't make good faith efforts to meet minority participation goals. We brought in a gentleman I believe from Baltimore who said that they are able to stop the contract, take the contract away. They have found ways, with the support of the mayor, to enforce these contractors to meet their goals. What do you plan to do about that? How do you plan to handle it? And then another question, piece of 363 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE information that I will add on, as I have dealt with contractors through the years and working with the contractor community, we find that a number of the minority contractor are subcontractors but the majority contractor, general contractor who tends to be from the majority community, will not pay them on time, the subcontractors on time. And many of these subcontractors have funding issues. It's very difficult for a lot of them to get lines of credit. So they depend on the payment from the general contractor to meet their obligations. But we find that many of these general contractors will hold up their payments, will find excuses not to pay them. I'd like to know if you had any experience with that, what are the solutions you see that could be -- you would use to prevent that from happening.

Mr. Vallas

Let me once again reiterate my commitment to doing things this district has never done. Again, we come from an experience where we allocated three billion dollars in school construction monies and over 50 percent -- I believe 56 percent went to minority and women-owned 364 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE businesses and well over 50 percent of the construction hours were performed by minority workers, and where over 50 percent of those working on the job sites were city residents, and where minority contractors were sometimes the generals and not simply the subs. And we did that by, first of all, establishing clear policies that basically set goals and then aggressively pursuing the goals. We did that by doing aggressive reach-out not only through representative business organizations, but also holding our own contractor fairs or professional service fairs or job fairs. We also did it by supporting fledgling companies that we felt had the means to deliver on a new school or on a major construction project but perhaps did not have the financial resources by, first of all, entering into contracts that would pay them in a timely manner; entering into contracts with general contractors that would require that when they get their money, they disburse money to subordinates, subordinate contractors within 30 days; doing things like wrap-around insurance so that companies that could not secure bonds or could 365 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE not get the insurance on a project from private insurers could come to the school district and get insured. And finally, we were able to do those types of things and accomplish those numbers by rigorous enforcement; working with a number of partnership organizations from the community to go in and to evaluate and assess and inspect and audit job sites not only to make sure that the MBE and WBE targets were being met, but also that the hiring targets were being met. So we would partner with assistant agencies to go in and to, in effect, police and monitor the functions. And then we were well prepared to jettison those contracts or to bar the companies from future contracts if they failed to comply with our guidelines. So those are the ingredients that are essential to an effective policy. And we will have an effective policy. It's not because we feel that the politics dictate that we have to do it. It's because we feel it's the right thing to do. And our experience was that once we opened up the process and once we brought many 366 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE additional general contractors and subcontractors to the table, we created competition, we were able to get better prices, and we were able to get better quality work. That is a fact. So when we did our aggressive MBE/WBE it actually created a better product, and we certainly stand by our record. Kim Sangster and my chief of staff, who was the director of the office of procurement in the City of Chicago, obviously these two individuals know how to run a successful program; Karen Burke, who managed the 76 school construction projects and the 500 school renovations and was mainly responsible on the operations end for his hitting those numbers. We've been there before. So we will be able to institute the type of program I believe that's going to be successful. And we'll be more than happy to participate with the subcommittee or the task force that you've put together and to give you continual updates on just how we're progressing towards reaching our goals. We will not embarrass ourselves by not reaching our goals or by not having a product that the Council is comfortable with.

Councilwoman Tasco

Thank you very 367 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE much. We heard the young lady last week speak on behalf of the kind of programs that she envisions using at the school district, and we were real pleased. I would just like to say to you that I was very excited yesterday morning about your testimony. I support your thinking outside of the box, Mr. Vallas, and moving the school district forward. And we wish you all the success and certainly will offer our support to help in any way so that our children are exposed to a new environment and to new schools and we wish you well. Thank you.

Mr. Vallas

Thank you.

Council President Verna

Thank you, Councilwoman. Mr. Vallas, if I can get back to the proposed CIP projects for just a minute. In my district, I only have four schools mentioned here. One is HS1, New High School in South. Do I assume or can I assume that that is Audenried? That would be the 2nd District. It says new construction.

Mr. Vallas

No, no. That's not Audenried. 368 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Council President Verna

What school is it?

Mr. Vallas

If you remember, we identified of the six new high schools we were going to build, we were going to try to place those high schools regionally. So what we've done is we've earmarked and designated the resources for the construction of the new high school in South Philly. Now, that depends on securing of the site. That depends on the accesses to the land. But in constructing the new high schools, given the condition of Bok and given the size and the construction of the existing high school in South Philly, we felt that putting a new high school in South Philly would be something that we would want to do. But that would be in addition to the Audenried replacement because, once again, Audenried isn't a new high school. It's a replacement high school.

Council President Verna

Well, I don't see that on the list.

Mr. Vallas

Well, it's really not our project, which is why we didn't include it on the 369 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE list. Universal is funding that project solely. It's in the overall capital plan. But in putting this together, we identified projects that are coming from our funds. We didn't identify independent projects. For example, in the Northeast there's a charter school, a new charter school being constructed. And that's not on our list either. It's in the overall capital plan, but it's not on the list we prepared for the committee today because it's not one of our budget items.

Council President Verna

Do you have any indication whether they're going to be building a new school?

Mr. Vallas

Audenried?

Council President Verna

For Audenried, where it will be located, when will construction commence. Do you have any knowledge at all?

Mr. Vallas

Yes. I can give you an update. They have communicated to me that they plan on breaking ground within the next year. They are still debating the site. Of course, I recommended that the site not be located near Audenried and that there be another site selected. 370 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE They're trying to make a case that the way the school can be constructed and reconfigured, you can build it on the open land that surrounds Audenried. But they have not presented me with an update yet. I'll be more than happy to get that for you.

Council President Verna

How would the new school be funded, the new construction?

Mr. Vallas

It'll be funded through Universal's own means. They presented a proposal where they identified a number of sources, and they feel confident that they can secure the resources to construct the school. But I'll be more than happy to get an update on Audenried. I would be more than happy to do that.

Council President Verna

I would appreciate it.

Mr. Vallas

What I've attempted to do is to monitor the project to make sure that the project meets with our specifications. But I have been waiting for them to present us with kind of a final finished, updated plan. The same thing on site selection. 371 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE While I communicated to them my reservations about building it near the site that Audenried, the old school, is currently constructed on, I've been reluctant to dictate that to them and I've been waiting for them to come back. But I'll be more than happy to give you an update. Thank you, Ellen. She has an electric shock. She just plugs it in and she beeps me. Ellen pointed out that the holdup in them presenting their final plan is actually at our request. They're meeting with the eight, count them, eight community groups that have asked to be participants in this project. So that's probably the delay of their final plan. If you remember, early on there was some question on whether they had really involved all of the community organizations. And they are meeting with the eight, and Ellen is monitoring that. We will give you an update as soon as possible.

Council President Verna

Thank you very much. At this time, the Chair recognizes Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Thank you, Madame President. 372 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Good morning, everyone. I have some questions in the area of curriculum, academic and curriculum reforms. And certainly, this is all about the children. The State took over our schools for a reason. There were some problems a year ago. Well, there have been problems all along. We all agreed that reform was needed. I'd like to hear more about the standardized curriculum across the city. We had a problem that if a child moved from one section of the city to another section and of course had to attend a different school, curriculums were different. I guess I want more information about what the problem was in the past and how that's being dealt with presently. And I'd also like to hear a little bit about best practices, and if you're using a particular reading program, where does that fit into best practices, because for years we keep hearing about best practices but I've really never been clear on what best practices -- we were using it here in Philadelphia. For example, I thought Reading Recovery -- I know that some of the elementary 373 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE schools in my area was using it. I heard it was a good program. But just where are we? I'd like an update on that.

Mr. Vallas

I'm going to ask Ed Williams to take you through the details of the curriculum plan. But just to put things into -- to lay things out comprehensively, not only is our plan to select best practice curriculums and to institute those best practice curriculums in the schools pre-K through 12, but the plan is also supported by a plan to increase time on task, extended day, extended year. It's also supported by a plan to have year-round professional development because no 16 matter how good the curriculum, if you don't have that professional development, forget it. And it's also supported by a plan to have curriculum coordinators and trainers available in the regions and in the schools so that we've got on-site people who are experts in the curriculum models. And finally, the curriculum is going to be supported by a plan to reduce class size and to have parental outreach. So while we've moved to select what we 374 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE feel to be superior curriculum models, we're not going to do what many districts have done and then say, Here's the best practice curriculum, okay, go do it. The classes are still too big. There's no 6 professional development. They have to share curriculum materials. There's no parental outreach. We're going to address all those issues because ultimately the success of the curriculum model depends on having those supports.

Mr. Edward Williams

Good morning, Council. My name is Ed Williams. I'm the chief academic officer for the School District of Philadelphia. We have a folder of information coming around to you. And I'd like to walk you through the packet of information. It provides a kind of foundation and some of the things that we're attempting to do as it relates to the overall curriculum design in Philadelphia. I'd like to ask you to move to the right side of the folder. And on the right side you will see some documents starting with A Fresh Start to Excellence, where it speaks about a core curriculum. And at the bottom of that you will see Teaching to Proficiency. 375 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE This is something new for us because one of the things that we want to make sure we're doing is to say to teachers, In order for you to teach your youngsters, you must teach to state proficiency. So that's a part of the core curriculum, followed by what students are supposed to be doing in order to reach proficiency level at each one of the grade levels. You will also see information that relates to planning and scheduling time lines. As Mr. Vallas has said, we want to make sure that every teacher has a planning and time line schedule So that they will know what to do from the very first day that they enter into the classroom to the very last day. Then you will also see a year at a glance because we want to make sure that every teacher has a feeling for what they're expected to do throughout the entire year. The second document in your folder should be a Comprehensive Literacy Framework. So you can see what teachers are supposed to do in terms of reading and writing; and also, many of the core elements that are supposed to take place in 376 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE every school's reading program. That is representative of what's in the center of that sheet. Then following, this is something that is totally new for us. It is what we call the Curriculum Core Instructional Model that Mr. Vallas talks about. It is a new model that clearly identifies specifically what the expectations are supposed to be in terms of what the standard is supposed to be for that particular class. It talks about the performance level. It talks about what the expectations are supposed to be in terms of each student being proficient on the state examinations. It also provides the teachers with a step-by-step curriculum direction that they are supposed to follow. And if you look at the page, you will see that there are references to best practices and references to multi-cultural connections. That is totally new for us because heretofore multi-cultural connections were always put somewhere else, in another document. And what we're saying here is that we want to put in the hands of every teacher what the multi-cultural 377 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE connection should be for every grade level, for every student, and what some of the best practices are supposed to be as they move forward. The information that you see in this document, this document is for reading and literacy. This will be probably a document that will be in the form of maybe three or four hundred pages for every teacher to be able to follow. Then, as Mr. Vallas said, it is our responsibility to make sure that every teacher receives professional development so that they will know exactly what the expectations are from Day One that they walk into a program. And there will be ongoing professional development for every teacher as we move forward. The next sheet that you should have in your document is a diagram that kind of focuses on developing a conceptual understanding of mathematics and what are some of the core elements that we want to include in a mathematics program. Then following that there is another instructional document that deals with mathematics. In this particular document, it speaks to a 5th grade class.

Mr. Edward Williams

It also references what the expectations 378 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE are supposed to be in mathematics and also what are some of the multi-cultural enhancement activities that we expect teachers to engage themselves in as they are teaching mathematics. The second page of the document, you will see that there are references in terms of mathematical resources. You will see there are references to the state examination. You will see there are references to the TerraNova examination. You will see what class-based assessments that are supposed to be taught in every classroom. You will also see on the right-hand side English language learners. There are pieces of information for every teacher to know what they should be doing with English language learners. You will also see reference to special needs youngsters so that teachers will know what are those youngsters supposed to receive if they're in the specials needs category. You will also see Home Connections. How do we get the home and the parents involved in this process? And there are recommendations for teachers in order to do that. And then lastly, you will see Community Connections. 379 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE As we go through the development of these documents, which will be in the hands of our teachers in September, these documents will be in the classrooms that we will be focusing on in reading and math. As Mr. Vallas said, as we move into science and social studies, this is the format that we will use. I think the difference for us this year is that we are saying to teachers that we want to provide you with a menu and a format to follow and that there's an expectation that if you follow these formats and menus that your youngsters will be able to do math and reading and science and meet state proficiency levels.

Councilwoman Miller

That's really good. Do you think that this type of document will help with teacher retention and the support of services and activities that you're going to provide?

Mr. Edward Williams

I think it definitely will do that, Councilwoman, only because heretofore when teachers would come in the system, we would just put something in their hands or send 380 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE them to a classroom without providing them with the kind of support that they needed. Yesterday you heard Tomas Hanna talk about providing new teachers with coaches. Those coaches will be assigned to those teachers with the specific responsibility of helping those teachers know what to teach, how to teach, when to teach, to know how to manage their classrooms. So as we build support for our teachers in this process, we feel that that's definitely going to retain teachers moving forward because we don't want them to feel like they're isolated. It is our responsibility to provide as much support as we possibly can to make sure that they're going to remain with us.

Councilwoman Miller

That's right because certainly a more experienced teacher benefits the outcome for our students. Last year, you know, my daughter just graduated from public school in June of 2002. So I haven't attended any this year yet. But I was at a Home & School meeting, and there were a number of parents that were a little bit worried and upset about their children taking the PSSA because that 381 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE was something that they were not familiar with in the past. Since it's almost a year again and I would assume that those individuals -- that's less of a concern that parents are having, that children are having, because they were really nervous about those high school students not doing well on that test because it would impact graduation.

Mr. Vallas

Madame, if I could just make a point. A lot of the anxiety was also over a proposal that had been pushed at the state level to, in effect, put something on the student's diploma. So if they graduated but they didn't pass the PSSA, it would be kind of like a negative mark that colleges would be able to view. It's my understanding that that legislation has been bottled up and it hasn't become a reality. So the student's PSSA score, while it impacts on the school, obviously it doesn't impact on the student directly. I think part of the reason isn't because we've revamped the curriculum. We haven't yet. We're revamping it this year. I think part of that anxiety may be due to the fact that that legislative initiative was not successful. 382 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Miller

We here in Philadelphia did not support that piece of legislation anyway. Can you tell us, in your testimony you talk about utilizing a different standardized test. Can you just talk a little bit about the TerraNova versus whatever it was? I think we were using the SAT-9 or something like that.

Mr. Vallas

We went with the TerraNova for a number of reasons. Reason No. 1 was we felt that the TerraNova was more in line with the state standards. Reason No. 2, we felt that the TerraNova was very similar in form to the PSSA. So if it's aligned with the state standards and it's similar to the state test, it's not like you're preparing students for two tests. If you're working on the PSSA prep or the TerraNova prep, you're, in fact, preparing them -- it's similar. Reason No. 3 is the TerraNova is a test the results of which we could get back much quicker and we could disseminate the information in ways to both teachers and parents so that you could really understand how your children were doing. It was a better diagnostic test. 383 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE And the teachers have really enjoyed the TerraNova because it really -- they get the results back in 30 days and you can break down that TerraNova in ways where you can identify both the strengths and weaknesses of the student. And likewise, the TerraNova also lent itself to information that we can communicate to parents. We actually did something unprecedented. We sent a very detailed breakdown of their children's performance on the TerraNova home to the parents. And finally, Reason No. 5 to go with the TerraNova is the fact that it's widely used nationally. It is I think 300 districts or something like that. I'm not sure of the number, Joe. Over 300 districts in Pennsylvania use it and the Archdiocese uses it. So we were certainly selecting a testing instrument that was well received, well respected, aligned with the state standards, and a testing instrument that could be used for diagnostic purposes. In the past, tests like the SAT-9 and others, if you can't analyze the results and then use those results to help maybe adjust the ways that 384 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE you're helping the student succeed, then that test really isn't that effective. There was also a related reason. Our individual teachers across the system, for all practical purposes, did not like the SAT-9 for many of those reasons that I identified. And we found the TerraNova obviously to be -- well, while it was our decision to make, we did not make it in a vacuum. We made it consulting educators from outside the district, and we made it with input from the teachers union leadership.

Councilwoman Miller

Somewhere in your testimony you mentioned parent training. And I'd like to know -- I know at some point when one of my daughters entered school each year parents were given a booklet that laid out the academic objectives for that particular grade. So as a parent, I could read that and go to a bookstore or somewhere and buy other little supports that we could -- that my daughter and I could work with at home to reinforce and enhance her knowledge. Then at some point it stopped. The school district no longer gave those out. So the parents are kind of walking around in a vacuum. You 385 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE don't know what your child is supposed to learn in what grade. Are we doing anything to educate and inform parents of expectations for grades, objectives for grades?

Mr. Vallas

Let me point out that this year we did a big educational outreach on the TerraNova that we communicated to parents. But as I mentioned in my -- and it's in the packet -- in laying out our curriculum strategy, to support the curriculum, we're going to also have a major parental outreach component, and it's going to consist of the following features, because you're right. Those things used to exist in the school district. Then they disappeared. They probably disappeared when the truant officers were laid off. But the bottom line is those were good things in the district that should have been retained. The first thing we're going to do with parents is parents this coming year are going to get curriculum and instructional guides laying out the standards, explaining the new curriculum, explaining the expectations. But in addition to those materials that they will get at the beginning of the 386 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE year -- and those materials will also include the uniform discipline code, information about the school calendar, after school, extended day, health care information, because a lot of our children are eligible for the comprehensive health insurance program and are not registered. So it'll be comprehensive. But then what they will receive during the course of the year is homework guides. So our goal here is to have the curriculum models supplemented by homework guides that can be sent home to the parents so the parents can get information from the teachers that are already pre-prepared on how they can -- this is my child's homework. This is how I can help my child with his or her homework. In addition, parents this year, this coming school year are going to have a much more simplified report card. So the report card is going to be in a language that parents understand, because right now you need to be able to read hieroglyphics in order to get through one of our report cards. So those are some fundamental features that are going to characterize this new curriculum. 387 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE And I think the feedback that you will be getting -- because the biggest complaint I hear from parents is the report card. I think the feedback that you will be getting with the new outreach pro initiatives as part of this curriculum plan will be positive.

Councilwoman Miller

Some of the other activities that I thought was really good was that they would have maybe a special math night for parents and maybe it was a contest. The classroom that had the most parents show up, they got an award. I mean, that motivated the child to motivate the parent to become a part and get there. So there's lots of activities that I think -- and a parent, of course, we all agree is one of the most important partners in their child's education. And there's just so many things. I noticed that when one of my daughters was in elementary school there were a number of parents that weren't really proficient in terms of academically proficient but they had training programs where parents could come in and receive special classes in math and reading so they could actually assist their child a little better.

Mr. Vallas

Well, we're going to be 388 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE starting what we refer to as our parent training programs and parent training academies. And the objective here is to not only communicate information to parents, but actually to make training programs available to train parents not only in their curriculum and instructional models, but also to give parents opportunities to be trained to do things in and around the schools, parent truant officers, parent patrollers, crossing guards, maybe even potential teacher aides or teacher assistant positions in schools. So the parent training academies and the parent training models that we're going to make available -- this curriculum is going to be all about reaching out to parents, communicating to parents and educating the parents. So I think you'll see a lot of activities that are school-based. The beauty of having a reading and math coordinator in every school is not only can they work with teachers to upgrade their skills, because we're going to have year-round professional development twice a month -- two hours twice a month we're going to have professional development 389 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE sessions throughout the year, not just before the year. But the beauty of having the curriculum experts is they can also facilitate math night or literacy night, programs where parents can come in and parents can basically get help and get familiar with the curriculums.

Councilwoman Miller

Who would be in charge of reading? Would that be Ed Williams for the school district?

Mr. Edward Williams

I'll be in charge of reading, yes. I'm the academic officer. So anything involving academics, I will be the person in charge.

Councilwoman Miller

Because for a while we didn't have anybody in charge of reading or there was some confusion about that.

Mr. Edward Williams

Well, I think we're being a little more specific now. Academics right now clearly indicates that there's a need for us to have reading specialized individuals as well as in math, as well as in science.

Councilwoman Miller

And I'm glad to hear that we're going to have a reading and a math coordinator in the schools. We need that. 390 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. MR EDWARD WILLIAMS: Thank you.

Councilwoman Miller

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you. Thank you, Madame Chair. Let me first thank the school district. This is the first year that I haven't been nervous and upset and wondering what's happening with the school district and feeling that we can't really trust what we hear and wondering what the future will hold and all of those negative things because I know in all areas we have a plan. So I am extremely grateful. Let me ask a question because I got a call on a couple drug houses and a call about near a school -- I know we have drug-free zones -- and a call about problems that are expected in a school district yard. My question is, where does the police -- because I have an excellent relationship with my police districts as well as certainly with Mr. Green. Where does the responsibility of the police department start and stop and the school 391 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE district start and stop so that I separate it out and don't give each person the other one's work to do?

Mr. Green

Very clearly, inside the school walls the school police officers and my office takes -- we take full responsibility for what occurs inside the schools. When you talk about the perimeters of the school and outside the schools and on weekends, the police department -- for example, if you have someone selling drugs, dealing drugs in one of our school yards, we will do everything we can to support and/or assist the Philadelphia police department in resolving those kind of issues, whether you're talking about installing lighting outside the building, if you're talking about actually putting -- in some cases we've actually even put cameras outside of buildings. Whatever we need to do to assist the police department doing their role in crime prevention, that's kind of what we do. And I have to say that we have, in my opinion, a very good working relationship with the Philadelphia police department in that regard. 392 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Blackwell

How could you not? (Laughter.)

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you. Thank you all for all that you do. We applaud your efforts and we applaud your commitment and we applaud all the plans you have to improve life for our school children and all who work there and our city overall. Thanks, Mr. Green. Thank you, Madame Chair.

Council President Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilman Ortiz.

Councilman Ortiz

Mr. Vallas, I've seen statements and I read your plan to establish some schools in the city that are more or less oriented towards the military. Could you give me what is the focus, the plan, the cost and why?

Mr. Vallas

Let me respond by saying we're trying to expand school options for our children. The ROTC programs are options that we can expand because those options come with some subsidies, and those options are basically options that have proven to be very successful.

Councilman Ortiz

Successful in what 393 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE sense?

Mr. Vallas

Well, academically. Our experience with ROTC programs have been -- and we had over 10,000 students in ROTC programs in Chicago. We had two high school military academies, and we had 42 high schools with ROTC programs. And the results of those programs --

Councilman Ortiz

Who runs the curriculum and what type of curriculum do those schools have? Is it a curriculum oriented towards the military?

Mr. Vallas

No. It's really --

Councilman Ortiz

What does it do?

Mr. Vallas

First of all, it's our curriculum, but it's supplemented by character building. There's a character education curriculum. There is a leadership curriculum. There's a management curriculum. There's a diversity curriculum. The thrust of the military curriculum or the military program supplements is really to build character and to build academic achievements. Also, the military academies, by their nature, usually have extended day, extended year into summer. There are summer academic camps as 394 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE well as there's a big emphasis on physical education. Let me explain what there isn't in the military academy. There's no recruitment. For example, at Brownsville recruiters were not allowed to visit Brownsville, the Brownsville Military Academy, which is the one that's gotten a lot of national acclaim.

Councilman Ortiz

But isn't it, by its very nature, a recruiting office?

Mr. Vallas

No, not really. Generally, some students may elect to get into the Reserves or join the National Guard, things that I did incidentally, in part, because college tuition, the Montgomery GI bill. And if some students gravitate, they gravitate by choice. Also, let me point out the decision to participate in ROTC or go to a military academy program is a choice that you make. But generally we didn't have weapons training. We didn't teach military history. It really is more oriented toward character building, team work, developing relationships, building confidence not only academically, but also building confidence physically. We did not see it as a 395 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE recruitment ground for the military.

Councilman Ortiz

What are the costs involved?

Mr. Vallas

Generally, when we built the Brownsville Military Academy, the cost would be the same costs you would have if you had a regular school. You have to pay for teachers.

Councilman Ortiz

Does the military fund the schools?

Mr. Vallas

Well, the Department of Defense supplements the military component of that. So, in other words, whether you have ROTC or whether you have a military academy, you do receive additional funding for the -- they do subsidize some of that instruction.

Councilman Ortiz

Could you let us see those, what it is, how it's structured, how it's going to be oriented?

Councilman Ortiz

I'd really like to take a look at this.

Mr. Vallas

I'd be more than happy. In fact, if you'd like, I'd be more than happy to arrange an opportunity for you to visit both the 396 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Brownsville Military Academy in Chicago and also the school within the school military academy at Farragut.

Councilman Ortiz

After the primary I think we should do that.

Mr. Vallas

All right. We'll do that. But we'll be more than happy to provide you with the information.

Councilman Ortiz

Thank you.

Council President Verna

The chair recognizes Councilwoman Brown.

Councilwoman Brown

Thank you, Madame Chair. I will stay within my five minutes. Arts and grants, my questions fall in that area. With the capital program that you have underway, I'm concerned -- not concerned, but curious about grass at city schools. So as you move to build, are you factoring in grass space for young people to have places to play? Has there been any discussion given to creating green space at our schools as you move forward with the capital programs?

Mr. Vallas

Yes, there has. And I'm going to ask Karen Burke, who is the director of our 397 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE capital program, to detail them.

Ms. Burke

I'm Karen Burke. I am chief operating officer. Greening is an amazing component of the capital program. I think in discussions with Council members we've indicated that. We are doing some campus projects out there, probably around ten per year, that will bring greening in to schools' current campuses. I think you've noticed out there that the building in the past has been curb to curb or sidewalk to sidewalk, which really precludes a lot of greening. What we intend to do on the exterior program out there is to get out, remove some of the asphalt in parking lots, green it up, and where possible, put in play lots so kids have something to do. That's absolutely in the plan. On the second part of the plan, if we build new or we put an addition in, we are looking at all our design specifications now. Quite frankly, in the past to save funds, people never put in green space such as trees or enough grass, by our estimation. So we're asking our architects, our managing architect there when they design on new 398 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE buildings that they must leave enough on the footprint for us to green it up with flowers and trees. That will go with all new construction.

Councilwoman Brown

Thank you for that. Arts, as you recall, at a School Reform Commission meeting back in December, a lot of discussion was given around the status of arts and music in our schools. And you did mention that that will continue to be two of the five core curriculum areas.

Councilwoman Brown

So if you would, should we assume that there will be no cuts in the teaching of arts this year and/or are there any plans to increase the arts in the school district curriculum?

Mr. Vallas

First of all, I'll guarantee that there's going to be no cut in the teaching of either art or music. And I will tell you that the amount of resources we put into arts and music will be increased. It is going to take us a few years to develop our arts curriculum. And again, while this is an ambitious budget, it's still a budget with some limitations. 399 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE But the bottom line is we are not only going to be investing more in the arts, but the bulk of our investment in the coming year is going to be in art and music equipment. For example, one of our goals is to begin purchasing musical instruments both for the elementary schools and the high schools, issuing an equipment note to do that. Part of the school district's equipment note will earmark money for musical equipment. We want to have bands in the high schools. I mean, how many of our high schools have marching bands? So we are going to be purchasing more musical instruments and musical equipment. In fact, probably one of the largest purchases this district has ever done. And we're going to be providing the schools with more art supplies. Now, the fundamental problem, though, that we're going to have beyond that is obviously when it comes to staffing. In the high schools, for example, as Creg Williams reviews the courses that we're going to eliminate, when we talk about replacing them with other courses like honors and advanced placement, exemplary courses, courses of 400 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE substance, the art and music courses are not going to be exempt from that because we have a lot of courses and lot of positions that are simply irrelevant. Just jettisoning them would free up money for us to bring in more relevant courses. So I'm very confident in our efforts at the high school to, in effect, clean up our curriculum and to do a lot of reallocating within the existing high school budgets. We are going to put more money in the high schools, but we're also going to do a lot of reallocating. At the elementary school level, it's going to be really hard for me to say I'm going to guarantee that we're going to have an art teacher and a music teacher in every school. But at the lower grades many times teachers can be provided with the art and curriculum supplements so that they can integrate arts into the general primary grade curriculum. What we're going to hope to do is to work with a number of the universities. For example, West Chester University in Chestnut Hill, they have one of the largest musical schools in the country. They have 600 student teachers or 600 401 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE teacher graduates a year. I think only a handful of them do their student teaching or work in the schools. We've had discussions with them about not only accessing more of their student teachers, but giving many of their musical teachers opportunities to intern in our school system so we can supplement the music teachers, because right now beyond the 60 or 70 so-called itinerant teachers who go from school to school, there are very few schools that have kind of a sitting art teacher and a sitting music teacher. So we're going to incrementally try to get back to where we are. Obviously, I will point out that if we're able to secure additional resources from the state and from the federal government -- again, you've read at least a preview of the headlines on the Rendell budget. Obviously, some of the areas that are going to be getting more resources but need even a greater investment will be areas that will not be ignored once we come back with our budget amendments.

Councilwoman Brown

I was actually going to reserve questions around the type of 402 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE partnerships the school district is doing with the Art Museum and the Philadelphia Orchestra and other higher end institutions. But I'll reserve that because I know that there's a lot on your plate and there are a number of priorities. But to know that that is at least on the agenda matters to me.

Councilwoman Brown

My final question is around a lot of discussion and testimony was given to recruitment of teachers. Last I checked the number of African-American male teachers in the system was about -- and let me say teachers, not professionals -- teachers in the system was about 3 percent. So with this magnificent plan that you have underway, under the leadership of Sandra Dungee Glenn and her colleague -- help me out -- Rosemarie Greco, what strategy is in place to get more teachers of color, male teachers of color in the system, given the makeup of the student body.

Mr. Hanna

Tomas Hanna, Office of Recruitment and Retention. H-A-N-N-A is the last name. Part of the work of the Campaign for 403 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Human Capital was to reach out to organizations such as Concerned Black Men. Scott Bass, who is the president of Concerned Black Men, is part of our steering committee. We know a number of years ago the district went into partnership with Concerned Black Men to attempt to bring in additional males of color. What we want to be sure happens as we do that is that the professional development that they receive prior to coming in is adequate, prepares them enough for that. That's one. The second issue we're looking at is taking a look at how we source. When we go out to colleges and universities, are we going to those colleges and universities that have in the past historically yielded high numbers of teachers? And it's an issue that we need to take a look at as we look at where we're going, have we been successful there and to continue going to those places. There are places we're going to -- Massachusetts, for example. We're going to a number of places where we found over time that travel has not yielded many teachers. And part of that also goes to looking at our historically black colleges and universities. 404 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Brown

Sure. It's a natural pool.

Mr. Hanna

Absolutely. So we're looking at Cheyney. We're looking at Lincoln. For example, one of the successful strategies we know Lincoln has worked with is preparing our teachers to successfully navigate and pass The Praxis, which is one of our impediments. So we want to build on their best practices. It's also looking at the career changers. The economy is tough out there right now. What are we doing to reach out to career changers? We're in the process of finalizing an agreement with the Philadelphia Workforce Development Corporation for 50 slots that are going to attempt to bring in career changers. And we've made it very clear to them that we're looking at targeted recruitment. Are we bringing in teachers that look like our kids, that understand our kids, that are part of the community.

Councilwoman Brown

That understand the urban setting and the like.

Mr. Hanna

Correct. Correct. Another sourcing area is also our 405 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE para-professionals. We have a number of NTA's, school police, secretaries who have gone back to school.

Councilwoman Brown

Who could be put in the pipeline.

Mr. Hanna

We need to support them as they come in. They are committed and vested in our community. So it's a huge issue. Sandra Dungee Glenn has clearly made it one of the most important points in our work, in recruiting and retaining teachers. I mean, as we talked about the career switchers, as we look at our alternative certification areas, also Troops to Teachers is an organization that we want to work with to bring in our retired military. In fact, one of the original meetings that we had back in November of this year, most of the folks we attracted were men. Many of them were men of color and many of them from the Philadelphia area. So there's an area that we need to bring them in and be sure that we support as they come into our schools. 406 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Brown

I'm extremely encouraged to hear that. And next year I would like to hear some results, as a result of the effort, some benchmarks you've met with regards to actual recruitment and retention of male teachers of color.

Mr. Vallas

Absolutely. We were a bit at a disadvantage in that as I was putting the team together the bulk of the recruitment for this year had already been done. In fact, we kind of inherited a nightmare. It was amazing. By mid July when I had arrived, I was told that there were 600 vacancies that hadn't been committed or filled yet. I mean, the pattern had been to wait for people to show up rather than to go out and recruit people. But as Tomas pointed out, you've got to go to where the teacher candidates are. And if you want a diversified work force, you've got to go to the schools where you can access a diversified work force. And that's something that we have not been aggressive about doing, but we will be. I'll also point out the Troops to Teachers program is a fabulous program because the military remains one of the most integrated branches 407 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE of the federal government. And the quality of the men who emerge with their full pensions in their forties and the men of color is significant. So we hope to take that program up another level. It was great. The first time we had meetings with them, they were on time. So it was just perfect. So we feel very optimistic. And we will have benchmarks that we will set and that we will present and be judged by.

Councilwoman Brown

Thank you very much for your testimony. Thank you, Madame Chair.

Council President Verna

Point of order, point of information from Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Thank you. Mr. Vallas, let me first congratulate you and the school district on the ROTC program. God knows today we need leaders, young men and women. And I just want to remind everyone that our military academies, Annapolis, West Point, the Air Force Academy, those are great places to get an education. And if you can prepare any of our young men and women for entry to any of those great, great institutions, I think that this is -- I personally thank you for this because this gives an opportunity 408 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE for our young men and women from this region to enter what we can see when we watch television today, a very, very honorably professional, to defend the country, to defend the United States of America. So great job, as far as I'm concerned. Keep going. And I'd like to see a lot of Philly kids in Annapolis, West Point, the Air Force Academy, et cetera. Thank you.

Mr. Vallas

Thank you.

Council President Verna

Thank you. The Committee will stand in recess until 1:45. Thank you. (Lunch recess.)

Council President Verna

The Committee of the Whole is now back in session. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Thank you, Madame Chair. Good afternoon. In your testimony you state that you're looking to consolidate the administrative offices and bring them to one place. And I believe you stated that you're spending a million dollars a year on one lease. 409 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Which lease is that? Which place is that?

Mr. Vallas

That's our human resources office at 22nd and Arch. The law department and human resources are in that building. The other three buildings we have are obviously buildings that we own.

Councilwoman Miller

Can you tell us a little bit about the search? It's my understanding that one place that you're looking is in my district. I guess I'll just put it on the record. It would sure be a boost to North Philadelphia.

Mr. Vallas

Well, I'm going to ask Karen Burke to get into the details of the search process. But if I can just explain the goals. Our goals here are to consolidate our operation, central office operations, which are in four facilities, not only the private facility, but also obviously the Parkway, the Kennedy Building and the Stevens Building, which is right off Broad Street, right kitty corner to Stanton and to the Benjamin Franklin High School. Our goal is to consolidate all of our operations into a single building. We feel if we do 410 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE that we will save about three million dollars a year in operating costs. We also feel that we should be able to raise about million dollars just from the 5 sales of those buildings themselves and through a 6 dropping of the lease. 7 Of course, any building that we lease, 8 access, rehab, move into is going to require some 9 investment in order to make that building adaptable. 10 But our goal here is to consolidate all of our 11 functions in a single building in an area that is 12 accessible, that is reasonably located in terms 13 of -- you know, it's not too far north or too far 14 south, but nevertheless is a facility that can house 15 our operations. 16 We're looking for -- right now, we have 17 about 900,000 square feet in all of our buildings 18 combined. We don't need any more than 500,000 19 thousand square feet -- thank you -- 350,000 square 20 feet. I keep on getting changing numbers. But the 21 bottom line is we have far too much space that we 22 currently have. 23

Councilwoman Miller

The building that 24 I know that you're looking at is not too far south 25 and not too far north. It also has off-street free 411 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE parking.

Ms. Burke

Karen Burke, chief operating officer. We have a firm that we've engaged through an RFP, Studley. And they are charged with looking out there, into the communities out there to see buildings that are available, whether to lease or to purchase. They're putting the scenarios together now. Each of the opportunities out there has different costs associated with it from build-out even versus lease versus buy. It's my understanding that the recommendations or at least a series of recommendations are being put together within the next couple of weeks and then it would go to the SRC for deliberation on that. So as far as I know, all buildings are still in the running and they are doing the pro formas on each of them now.

Councilwoman Miller

Great. Councilman Rizzo has a point of information.

Councilman Rizzo

Thank you, Madame Chair. Mr. Vallas, I would like you -- consolidation is great. But in the society that we 412 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE live in today, I hope in your part that there is -- part of that plan is an alternate location to run the school district. In the event of a catastrophic event, I would hope that you would have an alternative location that day-to-day operations of the school district could continue.

Mr. Vallas

First of all, your point is very well taken. Our objective would be to identify other buildings, and in some cases, schools where we could simply shift our operations to. And the way that could be done is not to shift all of your operations to a single building. But you could shift police and high schools to the top floor of one high school. You could shift operations to another location. So the objective here would be to have backup sites.

Councilman Rizzo

The important thing is that in the plan that -- you know, just moving bodies from one location to another is fine. But technology has to be available, telephone communications. So if you do make a move, that the infrastructure is there to run efficiently, fax machines. In most corporations today, that is considered in the event of a disruption of the main 413 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE headquarters.

Mr. Vallas

Your point is well taken, and we'll certainly focus on that. I will tell you at present, even though the system has multiple buildings, I would not be comfortable that we could actually move any of our operations to like one building or another because, first of all, the data systems aren't equipped, the technology isn't equipped. Any new building or existing building that we go in and we renovate, we will make sure that that district -- that those buildings are state of the art in terms of technology and information systems. But you're absolutely right. You need backup storage of data, backup storage of technology. Right now, this system, when it comes to personnel records, we don't have a database. Everything is on paper files. So when we put the new technology systems in, we'll be putting a lot of information on computers for the very first time, if you can believe it.

Councilman Rizzo

Mr. Vallas, don't feel bad. There's a lot of index cards still left 414 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE in this building. (Laughter.)

Councilwoman Miller

Councilman Ortiz, a point of information.

Councilman Ortiz

I have to leave because I have a parent/teacher conference.

Mr. Vallas

You see I keep on doing that to you.

Councilman Ortiz

The report card better be good. (Laughter.)

Councilwoman Miller

Thank you. Speaking of the human resources department and information, we've always heard -- and I guess it's still not automated. I'll call it "automated." I'm not all that technical with the computers and all that. But is the data still in boxes and all around? Is it a shorter length of time now when people apply for teaching positions?

Mr. Vallas

Yes. We are significantly streamlining the process. And I'll ask Tomas to articulate very quickly how that process is being streamlined. 415 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Hanna

Hi, Thomas Hanna. What we're working on is we're trying to move into the age where we go from paper to more automated. What we expect to do is, through the relationship we've created with New Teacher Project, they have an applicant tracking system. It's something we're really looking forward to so that you would be able to apply on line. We would be able to get back to you. It has an applicant flow to it that would, within a matter of days, weeks, someone would get some type of response, whether it be E-mail, telephone call, letter, indicating that you applied, we hear you, here's what we're doing, here's what you can expect. That would be on the teacher side. One of our goals is to try to branch that out to positions beyond teachers. So we're trying to catch up. There are issues where we get numerous calls saying I applied, where is it, what happened. We definitely have to get better at that. But we think we're going to take a bite out of that through the new teacher applicant -- the applicant tracking system that we expect to have fully operational during this recruitment season. 416 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Miller

Because we have lost teachers in the past. We have lost applicants that just went to other districts because the application process was so cumbersome and lengthy.

Mr. Hanna

Absolutely.

Councilwoman Miller

So it's really good if you're getting back went to people and letting them know where they are and whatnot.

Councilwoman Miller

To go back to the -- well, not to go back. But in this day, with the war in Iraq, and here at City Council we had a session a few weeks ago. We were briefed by the police department and the city's emergency management team. One of my friends said that she heard -- and she may have gotten something from the school. I'm not really sure. But what is the plan? She said to me that if I guess an incident occurs while children are in school, that the doors are going to be locked and children will not be able -- she's not complaining. I guess I just want to have information about an evacuation plan or an emergency plan, 417 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE whatever it is that you're putting together. I know you've thought about it.

Mr. Vallas

I'm going to ask Dexter to very quickly outline the provisions of that plan. And if this memo explaining what we've done has not been distributed to the committee. I know we've distributed this material to the city and we've been meeting with the various city departments to coordinate our efforts. But we'll certainly provide you the materials on what we've done to date along with a copy of a letter that we sent home to the parents. But let me let Dexter take you through a quick summary of what our plan is.

Councilwoman Miller

The city has not shared any of that with us. And when we had our briefing a few weeks ago, two weeks ago, I think, two Fridays ago, there was nothing in the materials regarding the school district.

Mr. Green

Dexter Green, Madame Councilman. In the event that there's some kind of incident, there are two things that could happen. One is an evacuation. And since 9/11, the district 418 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE developed a standard safety and crisis plan for the entire district. All 264 schools have the same plan with their own evacuation process in that plan. But also in that plan is what we call sheltering in place. In the event there should be an incident, one of two things will happen. Either there will be an evacuation. And those sites are selected ahead of time. Either there will be an evacuation or there will be a sheltering in place. And basically what sheltering in place is, is that in the event something should happen, the school would go on lock-down, exactly what you just said. No one would be allowed in the building. No one would be allowed out of the building except for the first responders. And those responders are coming either from the police department or the fire department. We have been working through the last five months with the Philadelphia police department, the fire department, the Archdiocese, the schools in Center City, whether they're EMO schools, charter school, private schools -- it didn't matter -- developing a special plan for Center City. And 419 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE that's where we are today.

Councilwoman Miller

So you are going to give us copies of the letter you sent home and also safety crisis?

Mr. Green

Safety and crisis plans. Every school has a copy of the safety and crisis plan, and we can provide that to you also, which includes the sheltering in place.

Councilwoman Miller

Councilman Rizzo, point of information.

Councilman Rizzo

Mr. Vallas, Dexter Green, could I suggest it would be real helpful to we, as members of Council, getting copies of these things simultaneously or even before you send them to our constituents so if we get calls we're not blind-sided by information that is being distributed throughout the city to the parent population. So if you could at least put me on the list -- I'm not speaking for my colleagues -- I would like to get this as a matter of routine so we're not surprised in hearing about this stuff at budget hearings.

Mr. Green

We'll make sure you get that. 420 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Miller

I think all members would probably routinely like to receive the information. The city briefed us. They gave us a copy of a tape called Shelter in Place. And that pretty much was talking about our homes, how to do shelter in place at home. Then they recommended that we look in the back of the White Pages for an evacuation plan that's on the last two pages. But it's not on the last -- and I have to talk to the city about this. It's not on the last two pages of the new White Pages.

Mr. Vallas

We'll make sure that we send the material to you directly. In fact, any time we're going to be sending something to the city, we'll send it to the President and then we'll coordinate the distribution to the Council members because, as a matter of rule, we've been doing that when we have our press announcements and we put out our various educational initiatives. But we'll begin to do that when it comes to anything regarding public safety or emergency. Rather than go through a single channel, we'll make sure that all the Councilmen get copies of letters 421 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE that we're sending home to parents.

Councilman Rizzo

Could I appeal to the President? Madame President, your office is a very big place and I know that there are certain documents that you would like to go through you for distribution. But I think it would be more efficient, Mr. Vallas, if you could have this faxed to us directly. Things that are like press releases and information that's timely, rather than put a burden -- and I'm respectfully asking the President to allow you to communicate. You can send it to the President's office. But I would appreciate not knowing about something a week after.

Mr. Vallas

Right. Okay. No problem. I see no problem. We'll make sure we give you copies of all the materials that are being sent.

Councilman Rizzo

And I appreciate your courtesy to the President. But again --

Mr. Vallas

That's fine. We'll make sure you get a copy of it. Absolutely. From our office.

Councilwoman Miller

Are schools supposed to be used as I guess a shelter if there is 422 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE some bombing? We're in this time of war. So people have to start thinking about this in advance.

Mr. Green

In this whole sheltering in place piece, our schools are equipped with enough snack foods, food for the kids and water for the kids assigned to that building. At this point in time we had not planned to use schools as a shelter for the entire community. But in the event that something happens while kids are in school, that would be -- now, can school buildings be used on a weekend or something like that when kids are not in school? The answer is absolutely they could be.

Mr. Vallas

We've also been following the federal guidelines, and we've been stocking the schools not only with water and food to last a day, at least a day, but also duct tape and things of that nature because a lot of times the protocol being if there's a biological agent or some sort of a chemical strike or whatever, you want to secure the buildings. You want to basically secure -- you want to make sure that the buildings are not ventilated from the outside. So that's the reason why you have the shelter in place contingency. 423 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE But any decision that we would make, any decision that we would make, we would make only in concert with our public safety officers, like the police department, like the fire department. In other words, we would basically follow the city's lead and we would do what we were directed to do. But, of course, having the buildings equipped, because in some of the scenarios they talk about the need to be able to secure your building, keep people indoors for X amount of period of time while someone assesses the danger. And obviously we're only talking about the unlikely -- the most unlikely of eventualities. But the bottom line is we are taking those precautions. Better safe than sorry. And we are following federal guidelines. And let me point out that in doing this, we've really been able to get a lot of donations. For example, like Coca-Cola has donated the water. We've really had a lot of people stepping forth, and they've been stepping forth to assist us. Given the fact that there's not a grant that we don't pursue under any circumstances, we are going to certainly try to take advantage of 424 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Secretary Ridge's proposal that federal money be set aside to school districts to assist them in this type of public safety preparation.

Councilwoman Miller

Thank you.

Council President Verna

Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Thank you, Madame Chair. Good afternoon, Mr. Vallas, Mr. Green and Mr. Harris. Mr. Harris, why don't we take care of a piece of information that we were working with yesterday. This was the matter of the moving columns from yesterday's five-year plan discussion, the August plan and the March plan. You have been kind enough to put together a new document. Madame Chair, if we could have the sergeant-at-arms distribute a document that I received this morning from Mr. Harris to the members. Mr. Harris, would you explain -- there are two sheets here.

Mr. Harris

Yes, Councilman.

Councilman Nutter

One has three columns of different five-year plans, and then the 425 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE another has as a title Real Estate Taxes. Why don't we start with the five-year plan discussion and then we'll talk about the real estate tax issue from yesterday.

Mr. Harris

I'd be happy to. Again, I need to apologize for any confusion that we may have caused or I may have caused between Friday and yesterday. What I felt might rectify the issue and clarify what happened was to put -- these documents, the top two tables were contained in the package distributed yesterday. However, they were on separate pages. So what we did this last evening was put both plans on one page for you. The top plan represents the original five-year plan.

Councilman Nutter

That would be August?

Mr. Harris

Yes, from '03 through '07.

Councilman Nutter

Right.

Mr. Harris

The second plan is an update to that going from '04 to '08. And we will continue in the future to update the five-year plan. Next year you'll see '05 to '09. Given that there are adjustments, as any 426 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE plan is going to continue to be worked on and adjusted in crafting this year's budget and the realties of the state budget that we were working with, we adjusted the FY '04 and have a current FY '04 plan as opposed to the original plan. That was the point of confusion. And that was the point at which on the first -- where the wrong column was inserted in the wrong sheet. So at the bottom I wanted to take the other step of clarifying the differences that occurred between the adjustment to the '04 plan, and laid out there for you I believe what has changed and why it has changed.

Councilman Nutter

So why don't you now tell us for the record -- first, early this year, late last year there was discussion about what your end of the year balance would be for FY '03. You sent to Council correspondence initially indicating that you anticipated ending this fiscal year with a 10.7 million dollar surplus. Subsequent correspondence either late last year or early this year indicated that you anticipated ending the fiscal year with a two million dollar surplus or slightly more than two 427 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE million dollar surplus. Can you tell us now, for the record, first, what do you anticipate the fiscal condition to be at the end of FY '03?

Mr. Harris

My current assessment and best information is that we will --

Councilman Nutter

I don't know if you want to use the word "assessment."

Mr. Harris

Okay. I withdraw my choice of words. I don't do assessments.

Councilman Nutter

Very good.

Mr. Vallas

You may have to. (Laughter.)

Councilman Nutter

We know some people who do. I can introduce you to about 85 of them. They do a very good job. As a matter of fact, they work for you. (Laughter.)

Mr. Harris

Well, my name is on the top of the page. I did notice that.

Councilman Nutter

I figured you guys needed a little late afternoon respite from all the tough questioning from earlier. What does your analysis tell you? 428 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Harris

Our projection currently is that we will maintain what we believe to be a two million dollar surplus at the end of fiscal year for '03. I would note that this is in comparison to the adopted budget of '03 which had a 28 million dollar deficit as approved last May. So while the number did change from the initial estimate in August, we're confident that a two million dollar surplus -- which is, in my opinion, nominal within the whole budget. But it does represent a substantial progress I believe in achieving --

Councilman Nutter

Mr. Harris, look, as hard a time as I can give you about things, I mean, don't be shy about recognizing the fact that you walked into a budget that had a 30 million dollar deficit projected for the end of the fiscal year and now you're projecting a 2.6 million dollar surplus. I mean, that's something to talk about. And it's something that should be recognized. You walked into a situation and you turned it around. Let's just call it for what it is, because I can assure you that if you walked in with a 2.6 million dollar surplus and you were sitting here today with 429 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE a 30 million dollar deficit, I'm not sure how long you'd last at the table. So we give acknowledgment where it is due. It is a spectacular job and you should be commended for it.

Mr. Harris

We're all working very hard on a difficult situation. So thank you, Councilman.

Mr. Vallas

He would have been at the table alone, I might add.

Councilman Nutter

I understand that. On his way over to the SRC and the pension system. (Laughter.)

Councilman Nutter

Okay. So now let's talk about FY '04, the comparison between 8/23/02 and 3/23/03, the variance between the two. And lastly, before you do that, any of the materials that we have received to day, there was also a data request for a listing by category and dollar amount of the 48.5 million dollars in cuts. Do we have that?

Mr. Harris

I believe that was in the package that was distributed first thing this morning at the opening of the session. There was a page in there that had the cuts detailed. 430 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilman Nutter

We'll get to that. We'll get to that, because I don't think I have that. Let's talk about the variance in the '04 numbers.

Mr. Harris

Do you want me to walk down through the list?

Councilman Nutter

No. Let's just kind of get right down to the bottom line.

Mr. Harris

I think the key components to the differences between the original projection of '04 in August and where we stand today, I would say that while we are trying to -- while we are launching a number of new program initiatives, they are costing somewhat less than we had originally anticipated in some of them. So our costs did not go as high and we originally thought. However, the revenues is probably the biggest issue. And that reflects the loss of 65 million dollars from the state under the current budget scenario. Again, I imagine that will change as of today. But at this time --

Councilman Nutter

It's going on right now. 431 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Harris

Yes. But looking at it as of the information in hand, the loss of state and local funding, the vast majority of that being, the vast, vast majority of that being state funding. And then making up for that in cuts on down the line, an additional 50 million dollars in cuts that we will be pursuing.

Councilman Nutter

Now, when you talk about -- did you say 65 million dollars in state funding?

Mr. Harris

Yes, Councilman.

Councilman Nutter

Is that a part of the 73.7?

Mr. Harris

Yes, Councilman. Yes, the 73.7 is made up of 65 of state funding. And the way we addressed that 48 million dollars, roughly 48 million dollars were handled through previously where we discussed the budget reductions.

Councilman Nutter

Hold on for a second. 65 out of the 73 is the state?

Councilman Nutter

The eight, is that local funding?

Mr. Harris

That is a combination of -- 432 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE yes, it is.

Councilman Nutter

From us?

Mr. Harris

Well, it was dealing with some funding that we were going to pursue and were planning on pursuing and working with for the after school.

Mr. Vallas

In a nutshell, in the original five-year plan, we assumed that we were going to be able to secure some after school, extended day money as part of the Safe and Sound program. We were unable to do that. So, in effect, we adjusted our budgets accordingly.

Mr. Harris

For this fiscal year.

Mr. Vallas

For this fiscal year.

Councilman Nutter

What do you mean by that?

Mr. Vallas

In other words, when we laid out the five-year plan, we assumed that we were going to be able to apply for a number of after school, extended day programs that were funded obviously by other governmental agencies. And we were not able to secure that additional funding. So we took it out of the original five-year plan budget document. 433 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilman Nutter

But I thought Safe and Sound was working in conjunction with the school district on the whole after school program?

Mr. Vallas

It is. We're coordinating our efforts. But we had come in under the assumption that we would be able to -- well, it was our hope that we would be able to be treated as a provider. But the city preferred not to, at least for this year's applications, because many of the applications were already out, the process was already beginning to basically put out the RFP and to continue to work with community-based organizations and neighborhood organization. So that doesn't mean that we weren't cooperating. Obviously, we provide a number of schools as Beacon sites, and obviously we work to try to coordinate our after school and extended day activities. But we had to adjust our revenue estimates to account for the fact that we were unable to secure money for after school, extended day programs from sources other than the federal sources and obviously our local indigenous sources.

Councilman Nutter

So let me make sure 434 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE I'm understanding this, because I had not heard this before. Are you saying that the school district was trying to get money from the Safe and Sound organization?

Councilman Nutter

And they declined or refused or didn't approve any funding for the school district for after school programs? I thought they were in the after school program business.

Mr. Vallas

They are. But they're providing the funding to community-based organizations and neighborhood-based organizations.

Councilman Nutter

But aren't some of those organizations providing those after school programs in your schools, in our schools?

Mr. Vallas

For the most part, they're not. For the most part, most of those organizations are -- there are some. Well, the Beacon programs are being provided in our schools. But many of the community-based organizations, not all of them, but many of them provide after school, extended day programs in their own facilities. So I think the decision was made to stay 435 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE with community-based organizations for this year's application, in part, because a lot of the determination relative to the after school, extended day programs, awarding grants to community-based organizations was made before we laid out our five-year financial plan. So the decision was --

Councilman Nutter

I can understand that. But I think we help to fund the organization. I mean, my recollection I think off the top of my head is upwards of about 30 million dollars of city money went to Safe and Sound. And now we're hearing that the school district is not participating in that. There's something I'm not understanding here.

Mr. Vallas

I'm going to ask Nilsa. Nilsa Gonzalez is the director of our Office of Schools and Regions. She, of course, has responsibility to oversee our nine regional superintendents. She runs the after school, extended day, summer school supplemental programs, and I'll let her articulate that.

Ms. Gonzalez

Nilsa Gonzalez. We are in partnership with the city in Beacon schools and in 21st Century schools for this year. 21st Century schools is a grant that we 436 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE received, and what has happened is that we are using that monies to run the academic piece of the after school program in schools throughout the city. 5 Right now, we have 31,000 children in 6 our program. The city has slots for 60,000 7 students. 8

Councilman Nutter

I'm sorry. Give me 9 those numbers again. 10

Ms. Gonzalez

We have 31,000 students 11 in our extended day program in the Grades 3 to 11. 12 The city has 60,000 slots. 13

Councilman Nutter

Additional? 14

Ms. Gonzalez

Additional for after 15 school programs. What we are now doing with the 16 city is meeting in partnership to see how we can 17 support each other's programs for next year as the 18 providers have lost many of their students to our 19 program because it's an instructional program, 20 solely an instructional program. 21

Councilman Nutter

We don't have to go 22 into all the details at the moment. But I have to 23 tell you, Ms. Gonzalez -- and you're just trying to 24 do your job. I guess hearing about our programs, their programs, so-and-so's programs. I mean, 437 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE they're all the same children from the city.

Ms. Gonzalez

Absolutely.

Councilman Nutter

I mean, it's almost a level of -- I mean, I believe in as much competition on many things as possible. This is possibly not one of them where we should be in this kind of competition. And I guess what I'd also like to know is for the eight million dollars that at the moment you believe you're not going to get, what would you have done with it? How many more sites either would be opened or how many more children would be served? I mean, did they run out of money? Is that why you didn't get any funding?

Mr. Vallas

Let me explain where we are cooperating. Number one, the city provides the Beacon programs. The city pays for the Beacon programs. They house it in the schools. We, of course, do not charge the city, because the old board used to, believe it or not, charge the city for having after school programs, kind of an idiotic thing. But we don't charge the city for that. The second area that we cooperate directly on the funding is we have jointly applied 438 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE to the federal government for this 21st Century grant and the 21st Century learning center program. So this is a joint application between us, the city and community-based organizations. Now, the third area is the Safe and Sound program and our respective after school, extended day programs. We have not been allowed to access Safe and Sound money. Now, that doesn't mean that the city is not coordinating those programs with us. It just means that the city has preferred to work through community-based organizations and other organizations to provide the services. Some are provided off campus. Some are provided on campus. We are coordinating our efforts. And I will tell you this. We hope that next year we will be able to apply for Safe and Sound money and secure some Safe and Sound money to help supplement our after school, extended day programs. The main reason, the principal reason that I was given that they would prefer to do the coordination approach rather than just the direct funding approach was the fact that we were kind of entering the competition for grants business late in 439 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the game and that while we should cooperate on Beacons and cooperate on 21st Century, the federal grant, and while we should coordinate our efforts, we should come back next year and apply for actual direct funding through the Safe and Sound program.

Councilman Nutter

All right. Thank you. Mr. Harris, on this last chart, the comparison, let me make sure I'm understanding this correctly.

Mr. Harris

Yes, sir.

Councilman Nutter

You're anticipating that we'll have 206 million dollars left over from the deficit financing?

Mr. Harris

That's correct.

Councilman Nutter

Now, how did the number go up? Because the last correspondence I got from you was that it was at 187 million dollars.

Mr. Harris

That's correct, Councilman. And I'm glad I have a chance to clarify that. It is -- the balance at the time and before the closing of the 2002 books will end, assuming that we would have to draw down based on the 2002 budget, was that we would start this year 440 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE with a 187 million dollar deficit.

Councilman Nutter

187 million dollar deficit financing balance?

Mr. Harris

Let me be very cautious. For the record, 187 million dollar --

Councilman Nutter

You are going to be sitting at that table by yourself if you keep that up.

Mr. Vallas

No, he won't be at the table. (Laughter.)

Mr. Harris

I'm just speaking fast. I apologize.

Councilman Nutter

Take your time.

Mr. Harris

187 million dollar proceeds remaining out of the original 317 million dollar deficit bond. When the books closed for 2002, it actually was -- we did not have to draw down 15 million dollars that we anticipated we would have to draw down. So the balance actually shifted up to about 203 million. Then if you factor in what we anticipate being the salvage this year, in round numbers, we'll start next year with 206 million dollars remaining 441 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE out of the 317, which is a better position than we originally expected to be in. That allows us -- if you follow the five-year plan through, that does assist us, along with the other cuts, to stretch the deficit financing, in part, beyond '07 and actually carries it into '08.

Councilman Nutter

So the two key numbers are you're going to start '04 with the 206 deficit financing bond remaining funds.

Mr. Harris

Yes, available proceeds fund.

Councilman Nutter

Which you then anticipate in FY '04 a fund balance of 159.2 million dollars. Is that what I'm reading here?

Mr. Harris

That's correct. We'll have to draw down about 46 and a half million, leaving us with roughly 160 million starting '05.

Councilman Nutter

Okay. Now, let's talk about taxes. We had a discussion yesterday about your estimates versus the city's estimates on real estate tax receipts. Your estimate, I believe, was a 2.8 percent growth. The city's estimate was a 2.4 442 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE percent growth. And you were going to tell us why the variance.

Mr. Harris

Correct.

Councilman Nutter

Is that the explanation on the second sheet?

Mr. Harris

Yes, sir. That is the one page on real estate taxes. Primarily, it is the due to the transfer of millage, of the 2.71 millage from the city to the school district and it's reflected as a full year of this transfer. The transfer of the millage translates, as you see at the middle of the page, that for every dollar of real estate taxes collected by the city, the school district actually receives in excess of that. It receives 1.379.

Councilman Nutter

Right.

Mr. Harris

To that end, when you multiply the current real estate taxes expected from the city by that 1.379, it gives you the 460.7 that we had listed in the book, creating that difference of the 2.4 to 2.8.

Councilman Nutter

Let's talk a little bit about the 48 and a half million dollars. You've got a freeze. 443 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Now, what happens with these kindergarten -- and tell me that acronym, SSA. What's an SSA?

Mr. Vallas

First of all, because we're going to be reducing class size and classes will have -- instead of 33 kids, they'll have students 8 per teacher, we feel that we don't need three people 9 in the classroom, that we can basically cut down the 10 SSA's and use -- 11

Councilman Nutter

Mr. Vallas, what's 12 an SSA? 13

Mr. Vallas

An SSA is a supportive 14 service assistant, a teacher assistant in the 15 classroom. They're three-hour teacher assistants. 16 So they spend three hours a day in the schools. 17

Councilman Nutter

And that was 18 technically giving you three people in a classroom 19 of 30? 20

Mr. Vallas

At the kindergarten level, 21 you'd have three people in the classroom. You'd 22 have a teacher, a teacher assistant and an SSA or a teacher and a literacy intern.

Councilman Nutter

How many students are in our average kindergarten? 444 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Vallas

Well, the class size ratio is 33 to 1. And sometimes if you're fortunate enough, you may have a parent volunteer. Let me also indicate that while there's SSA's in the schools, they're not always in the kindergarten. SSA's can be doing all sorts of things in the schools. They're not NTA's, which the NTA's are for security. There's like 1500 SSA's in the schools. There are also what we call literacy interns in the school. These are basically prospective teacher candidates who get paid close to a starting teacher salary who are also in the classrooms. The feeling here is after we move -- rather than just try to put more and more personnel in a single classroom, we said what we need to do is we need to reduce the size of that classroom. We need to get those classrooms down to students for 21 every one teacher. And that means you hire more 22 literacy interns -- you hire more teachers rather than literacy interns and SSA's. Let me just give you an example on the literacy interns. A lot of schools have -- most 445 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE schools have a literacy intern for 2nd grade. Well, if you have three 2nd grades in your elementary school with 33 kids in every classroom and you're assigned one literacy intern, then one 2nd grade teacher benefits from that literacy intern. Now, if you take that literacy intern's salary and an SSA's salary and you use that money to hire a full-blown teacher, you have class size reduction in all three of your 2nd grade classrooms. All the classes suddenly jump down from 33 to like or 24. So, in effect, all the 2nd grade teachers 13 benefit. 14 So any time you hire one teacher, you're 15 benefiting, in effect, three classrooms. You're, in 16 effect, reducing class size. Instead of having 17 three oversized classrooms, you have four small 18 classrooms. 19

Councilman Nutter

Let me make sure 20 we're also being clear for the record. Are the 21 children, when you go from 33 to 23 or 22 -- 22

Mr. Vallas

22, which will be our goal 23 at the primary grades.

Councilman Nutter

Where are the 10 or 11 children going? Are all 33 kids still staying in 446 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the room and you're just putting an extra teacher in the room?

Mr. Vallas

If we don't have the space --

Councilman Nutter

Because we're challenged by space in many of the schools.

Mr. Vallas

-- we will stay with the literacy interns. We will stay with the present formula. If we do have the space, we'll hire the additional teacher. So what's going to drive this is space. And we feel fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your perspective, about 75 percent of our schools roughly have additional space because enrollment has been declining. There are about or percent of the schools that are 18 at or near capacity. So the availability of space 19 will dictate. 20 In those schools that don't have the 21 classroom space, we'll stay with literacy interns. 22 In those schools that do have the classroom space, 23 we'll hire teachers. So the actual number of SSA's 24 may fluctuate depending on what the final outcome 25 is. But again, the financial amount can be adjusted 447 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE because obviously it's not a budget-breaker.

Councilman Nutter

The last item on this particular page, tell me what this means on the SEPTA tokens and transfers. Is the cost going up to the students? Is the cost going down to the students? Is the school district cutting back on what it's covering for students? What does this actually mean?

Mr. Harris

No, it's looking at the rates and talking to SEPTA and having negotiations with SEPTA regarding the rates because our transportation costs are increasing. However, we do not intend or plan at all to cut back on services or provision of services or access to students. So we will continue to work on rate issues.

Councilman Nutter

Tell me about this. There was a proposal out of the Mayor's budget speech back in January for a million dollar 20 school-based facilities improvement fund. 21 Is this something that the city is 22 providing to the district or is this a district 23 initiative that we're helping to support or what is 24 this about? 25

Mr. Vallas

It's my understanding that 448 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the 25 million was to be used to support the infrastructure improvements in schools that help facilitate the Safe and Sound programs and the Beacon programs. And what we're doing -- and I wasn't sure how that was going to be funded, whether or not it was going to be through a bond or a through a direct appropriation. But what we're doing is as we look at our after school and extended day programs and as we lay out our plan to expand those programs, we're going to be identifying what we feel to be eligible expenditures that we could then access those proceeds for. But right now we haven't factored it into the budget because if these revenues are realized, they will probably be realized against the capital budget rather than the operating budget because it's not so much an operating fund expense as much as it's a capital expense, to go in and to make the physical improvements that need to be made to accommodate after school.

Councilman Nutter

I assumed that it was a capital expense. I think what I'm trying to understand is whose capital. 449 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Vallas

Your capital, the city's capital. But again, we have not finalized any -- we haven't decided what we're going to be seeking those capital subsidies for. So it's nowhere in either our operating budget or our capital budget. It's a proposal of the city, and we've got to wait to see how the city budget process takes its course.

Councilman Nutter

Do you know if the million dollars has been identified in the city 12 capital budget? 13

Mr. Vallas

I don't know. 14

Councilman Nutter

We had capital 15 budget hearings, and I don't remember this item 16 being specifically identified. Okay. You can't 17 answer that one. 18 Yesterday I raised a couple items and 19 I'd like to follow up on them today. First, with 20 regard to -- I think one of the last items we 21 finished with before the break was ROTC. 22 I know my colleague, Councilman Ortiz, 23 who I believe has committed generally at least for 24 the next couple of months to try to restrict his 25 thoughts and concerns to the contiguous 48 states -- 450 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE he is not allowed to even talk about Alaska or Hawaii -- expressed some concern about our ROTC and he's been very active on issues related to the war. I bring a slightly different perspective. I'm certainly concerned about the war, and I'm also concerned about our military personnel and their safety. But with regard specifically to the ROTC, Councilwoman Tasco and I, within the past year, offered a resolution in support of the Roxborough High School ROTC program, which is a spectacular program at that particular school. And I'm sure that there are others throughout the city. We just may not be as aware of them. It would seem to me that any legitimate, appropriate program that works on character-building and leadership training, discipline and creating a sense of responsibility in our young people is more than appropriate and greatly needed for many of our young people. It's probably more than appropriate and greatly needed for some who are not so young, but we don't have any programs for them. So I certainly believe that having good ROTC programs or if there was or were a school that was created that had a, quote/unquote, military 451 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE focus, as long as we're careful I think about curriculum and the kinds of things that the young people are being taught -- let's not fool ourselves into thinking that some of our young people are not going to go into the military service. And on I think most days and nights some of us are rather appreciative that some young people actually go into military service because if they ever had to call on most of us here, you might as well learn another language. (Laughter.)

Councilman Nutter

So there is a great deal to be learned in these kinds of programs. We obviously again have to be careful about how the programs are structured, who has access to the young people. They should not necessarily be recruiting pads for the different military services. Not because that's a bad thing, but they're young and impressionable and there will be enough time for that kind of activity if they decide to pursue it through college and become of an older age. But I would like to at least be on record as supporting these kinds of programs. I 452 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE think our young people benefit from them. And I would encourage you to continue to pursue that kind of option because one of the things that I think some of our young people have lacked and has not encouraged some to go to school in the first place is that maybe we're not offering the kind of things that are attracting their attention. There is no one size fits all. There is no one program that's going to keep everyone's attention. And if that's what encourages someone to go to school, then God bless them. I guess I probably shouldn't have said that since we're having public school hearings. I'm sorry.

Mr. Vallas

No, that's fine. (Laughter.)

Councilman Nutter

It wouldn't be the first time I got in trouble. You did talk about something earlier which I was slightly confused about. And Councilman Rizzo and I kind of looked up at the same time. And maybe I wasn't paying as close enough attention. You were talking about -- you were in the area of sexually transmitted diseases. You were talking about testing and treatment. And something you said 453 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE struck a bit of a nerve. It was something along the lines of if a student is tested and found to I guess have something, that treatment was subsequently optional. And again, maybe I missed a part of that. So could you at least clear that up? Because I didn't understand the process or procedure.

Mr. Vallas

Well, I should probably have our health care expert here or someone from the Department of Health. But let me point out -- and please jump in and correct if I'm not -- are you familiar? Creg can answer that question.

Mr. Creg Williams

What we did was made an opportunity available to all of our high schools on a scheduled basis to have any young man or young woman who wanted to be tested the opportunity to do so. If indeed their test results came back positive -- all of the students who were tested were actually given a secret pass code where they could call in to find out the results of their test. In indeed those tests were found to be positive, the young people were given the opportunity to go to neighborhood clinic health facilities based on recommendations to receive 454 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE treatment or indeed make arrangements at that local school site to receive treatment from trained personnel from the health department.

Councilman Nutter

Let me ask a couple questions. One, all students were given the opportunity to be tested?

Mr. Creg Williams

Yes. All schools, in the high schools.

Councilman Nutter

Do you know of that population what percentage of students actually participated?

Mr. Creg Williams

Actually, the testing is concurrent as we speak. So we haven't completed the opportunity for all of the schools.

Councilman Nutter

And because you want to encourage them to be tested and then because you want to naturally encourage them to find out the test results, assuming that then it's difficult to either keep certain data -- and obviously, you have confidentiality issues. But then I guess that further complicates your efforts. If a student were found to be positive, I guess, one, you don't know it. Only the student knows it. And then you have no ability to follow up 455 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE on it to see whether if you had a positive, whether they actually sought treatment or not.

Mr. Creg Williams

That is correct. That information is confidential. But the health department, who is conducting the testing process, they're the agencies who have that information. Obviously, we cannot share that information, because of confidentiality, with the administrators at the schools. But most certainly the health department can have access to the information.

Councilman Nutter

Do you know what the follow-up process is for the health department?

Mr. Creg Williams

Well, the health department has a couple of options actually. They can actually contact the student on an individual basis if they were to come back out to the school and to do some follow-up sessions for young people to let them know that in fact your results did come back positive and you have an opportunity to get free assistance to cure any problem that you may have. That is a process that we do have in place as a result of follow-up if a young person decides that they don't want to, obviously on their 456 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE own, go into it.

Councilman Nutter

Do you know whether there's any contact with the parent or guardian?

Mr. Creg Williams

Actually, the law allows a student's rights in terms of the testing to be held confidential. A student can, however, share that information.

Councilman Nutter

Regardless of age?

Mr. Creg Williams

Yes, years or 11 older. 12

Councilman Nutter

Just at least at 13 these younger ages, Councilwoman Reynolds Brown and 14 I -- and Councilman Ortiz has a couple younger 15 children. Now, I know that my daughter has to basically -- I think they have to bring a note to school that she has -- I don't know -- had a physical or had some series of tests. This is an elementary school child. Are there any physical exam requirements of older students on an annual basis?

Mr. Creg Williams

Yes. At the 9th grade level students are required to enter high school with a current physical. 457 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilman Nutter

What about after they get in high school?

Mr. Creg Williams

No. With the exception of students who participate in particular activities, such as sports.

Councilman Nutter

Sports?

Mr. Creg Williams

Yes.

Councilman Nutter

I mean, 9th grade you're what? 14?

Mr. Creg Williams

14, 15.

Mr. Vallas

14, years old. 13

Councilman Nutter

Has there been any 14 thought or is there a discussion in the academic 15 community, the pediatrician community about any of this kind of required testing for slightly older young people who I would hope -- who I would think might be involved in a few more activities than a 9th grader?

Mr. Vallas

There is talk about not mandating such testing, but making the testing -- just a general physical examination available. In fact, in the budget we're looking at the whole issue of health care support system-wide. There's going to be major efforts to 458 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE register young people for the comprehensive health insurance program so that we can get them physicals. And there is money in the budget right now, in this budget for our healthy kids, healthy minds initiative, which focuses actually on the zero to eight kids. But we have talked about using this unprecedented partnership with the Department of Health and the STD testing and treatment, we have talked about using this as a vehicle for providing more comprehensive health care out-reaches to our students. In fact, we've talked about in all the new high school designs there will be health care clinics. And in many of the major high school renovations, we'll be also contemplating literally having health clinics. Not having health clinics for the dissemination of anything controversial, but having health clinics where kids can go in and get physicals. One of the things that we did in our previous life was we would always identify high schools and health clinics in high schools and then we would partner with the hospital and the hospitals 459 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE would come in. And as long as we built out the clinic, the hospitals would willingly run the clinics because they get medicaid reimbursement for the majority of the cases. With area hospitals 6 and medical institutions, we think that we can very 7 easily establish that same relationship. 8 So that's a long answer to your short 9 question. But the answer is yes. We're not looking 10 at mandating, but we are looking at making those 11 services available. 12

Councilman Nutter

Two last questions. 13 Maybe three. This is not a question. 14 The information you provided us on the 15 capital improvement plan, at least as a part of my 16 request from yesterday -- and I know you provided us 17 with a listing by Council district. What I think 18 might be helpful to all of us is if every school in 19 the district -- not your district, but our 20 respective districts -- are listed with whatever the 21 capital improvement plan is or is not. 22

Mr. Vallas

Sure. 23

Councilman Nutter

But that there is a 24 full and complete listing of, again, all the 25 or 25 so schools that I have in the 4th District. And 460 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE other members have probably about the same number. But that you could see every school on a list and what is anticipated to happen in that school over the next few years. On the capital improvement plan, what's your anticipated debt service for that?

Mr. Vallas

We won't peak out until -- when is it? In terms of maximum debt service, in either 2007 or 2008.

Councilman Nutter

Because you have a sliding scale, starting low and going high.

Mr. Vallas

I'm going to get you the number. What will happen is we will not peak until five, six, seven years down the road. Let me also point out in I think 2010, 2011 our debt service from other obligations actually begins to dip, and not insignificantly, which is going to give us a window of opportunity to either reduce our debt service or to issue even more bonds.

Councilman Nutter

Why don't you get us --

Mr. Vallas

We'll get you a breakdown.

Councilman Nutter

-- a full debt service schedule over the next 20, 30 years. 461 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Vallas

Absolutely. And let me also, just as a footnote to that, that debt service also assumes what we're going to be able to get subsidized through the state PlanCon. That's the school construction reimbursement program, which generally reimburses to the tune of 20, percent. 8

Councilman Nutter

20? 9

Mr. Vallas

Is it 20 percent? Well, it 10 can go higher than that depending. But on the 11 average, about 22 percent. It can go as high as 30 12 percent depending on the project. 13

Councilman Nutter

One last question 14 I'd like to follow up with you and work closely on. 15 I believe in your testimony you talked about a 16 summer job program, which, one, I'd like to get a 17 little more information on. 18 And secondly, I mentioned to you 19 yesterday my interest in working with the district 20 on some amount of incentive, which might be small, 21 medium or large, but some amount of incentive to the 22 business community in the creation of generally something called a youth job tax credit, which might work as an additional incentive to business people to hire young people, whether it's primarily during 462 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the summer or even during the course of the school year. But certainly in the summertime a lot of young people available don't necessarily have jobs or find themselves reverse commuting out into the far away suburbs, into malls and shopping centers and the like, when certainly there must be some job opportunities here in Philadelphia.

Mr. Creg Williams

Absolutely. Once again, for the first time the entire city has comprised a team to look at job opportunities for youth during the summer. As a part of that team, the school district is represented and is apprised of all of the activities. The entire movement is attempting to secure upwards to seven or eight thousand jobs throughout the entire city. Of that seven or eight thousand, we anticipate that the school district would do upwards to 1,000 to 1500 of those jobs. We are working collaboratively as a group to look at all the tax credit benefits.

Councilman Nutter

Let me make sure I'm understanding that. You're saying that you anticipate the school district would be an employer 463 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE of 1,000 to 1500 out of the pool of 8,000?

Mr. Creg Williams

Yes.

Councilman Nutter

Is that what you're saying?

Mr. Creg Williams

Yes, sir.

Councilman Nutter

All right. I just wanted to make sure.

Mr. Creg Williams

In addition to that, we are looking at ways to ensure that employers are aware of the tax break opportunities that may be available to them. There are two in particular that we're looking at. The first one is the education improvement tax credit. And the second is the Neighborhood Assistance Act, which allows a certain amount of tax credit for companies that give donations to other entities which will then employ students.

Councilman Nutter

Are these federal or state programs?

Mr. Creg Williams

Those are both federal.

Councilman Nutter

Both federal. So you get to take something off your federal taxes? 464 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Creg Williams

Correct.

Mr. Vallas

We are also, at your request, exploring local options, both state options and local options for providing additional incentives because generally the federal tax credits, while nice, they usually don't provide enough oomph.

Councilman Nutter

Well, most large business have already figured out how to get out of paying their federal income tax.

Mr. Vallas

I will make a comment, though, that as part of this program, so that Council can understand how this is actually going to benefit us, we're going to target -- our summer jobs are going to be targeted for students who complete their sophomore year. The critical bridge, the critical key in high schools is to get the kids into their junior year because most of the dropouts occur before the junior year. So we are looking at Driver's Ed for students after their sophomore year, summer jobs for students, all these incentives to get them over that bridge. And when we select students for summer 465 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE jobs, we're not going to be selecting them to sweep parking lots, although obviously there's a lot of basic -- there's a lot of tough labor jobs that obviously would be welcome too. But, for example, our honors and advanced placement students, the valedictorians, the high performing students, they're going to be given opportunities to work as teachers' aides in the summer school program. The computer geniuses, they're going to be deployed to run our computer clubs over the summer. Students that have an affinity towards business, et cetera, they're going to have an opportunity to work in our accounting and finance departments or work with the schools as like assistant comptrollers. Students who are in the vocational technical education fields, in some cases we may pair them up with companies that are doing rehab and construction work in the schools. One of the things that we've done previously under Creg's direction is we've actually allowed our student vocational education programs to form student businesses. So you had the culinary business. You had the landscaping business. You 466 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE had the tutoring business. Some students formed a computer repair company. So we hope to do the same things. We, in our previous existence, had 32 student businesses that would bid on contracts and would participate and come in under the regular programs. So those are the type of things that we're going to do.

Councilman Nutter

I can at least recommend to you one wintertime business which I will be a tremendous supporter of, which is the snow shoveling business. And any of the students who would like a contract with me for that, I'm looking forward to that conversation because I can't take it anymore. (Laughter.)

Councilman Nutter

Not that I've been doing it at all lately, but we've been having more snow. Madame Chair, I'm finished. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Vallas.

Council President Verna

You're welcome. Mr. Vallas, I don't want to belabor an 467 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE issue. But you know how concerned I have been about Audenried. Can we discuss that, if you don't mind? I asked you why it wasn't on that list that you provided us, and you said that Universal would be building the school.

Council President Verna

Can you tell me what the terms of the financing would be, who pays for it, how is it to be paid for?

Mr. Vallas

I don't have that information at my disposal. But I will certainly pull the information together and make that presentation. We've received Audenried's preliminary plan, which we thought was substantive. But we made some suggestions, and they've gone back and obviously made modifications. Plus, what I've told them is not to present their final plan until that plan basically had the support of the numerous community organizations.

Council President Verna

And they're doing that. But I'm more concerned at this point in time about the financing, how would it be financed. What happens if Universal should lose its contract? Are they going to be leasing? Who owns the 468 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE property? Is it the school district? Is it Universal? Who will be owning the property?

Mr. Vallas

Give me hours to pull 5 that information together. I'm just at a 6 disadvantage right now because I don't have all the 7 details. 8

Council President Verna

I understand. 9 But I would like to know where all of these pieces 10 fit. 11

Mr. Vallas

Absolutely. 12

Council President Verna

Thank you. 13 The Chair recognizes Councilman Clarke. 14

Councilman Clarke

Thank you, Madame 15 President. 16 Good afternoon. One quick question. 17 Mr. Vallas, I know there was some debate both on the 18 municipal and the state level about teacher 19 residency. Where are we at with that now and new 20 hires? 21

Mr. Vallas

Our teachers are not 22 required to live in the city. And that's helped the 23 recruitment significantly. 24

Councilman Clarke

With respect to the SSA employees, what's the strategy for elimination 469 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE of those positions? Is it through early retirement? I know they're mostly part-time jobs.

Councilman Clarke

What is it?

Mr. Vallas

Some of it's going to be through attrition. Also, every year the system hires individuals because there's always vacancies on the custodial side, the lunchroom side, the various support functions. So a number of the SSA's will be attrited out because every year these are jobs with high attrition rates. A number of SSA's will have an opportunity to move into other vacancies within the system. And let me point out that many SSA's actually may do more than one job in the schools. But then a number of SSA positions are going to be eliminated too. In some cases, we're going to try to identify those SSA's who actually have BA's, actually have the academic qualifications and who have been in our schools for a number of years and know our schools for the possibility of putting them through the alternative teacher certification program. But there will be a number of SSA's who 470 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE will be displaced because of our desire to hire teachers rather than literacy interns and SSA's.

Councilman Clarke

So SSA's cover a wide range, a wide category?

Mr. Vallas

Yes. Even though they're in one line in the budget, really the SSA's perform multiple functions in the schools. I mean, some schools utilize SSA's effectively; others, less effectively. But the bottom line is they're like general support staff. And again, they work three hours a day. The feeling here is that we're trying to identify and secure additional resources to reduce class size. And if we get our class sizes down to levels that we've targeted, then we're not going to need that level of support staff. I'll also tell you this. Our goal as part of our teacher recruitment and retention program is to begin to subsidize our student teachers. This system has 250 student teachers a year. Yet there are 10,000 graduates from the colleges of education, I've been told, in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania schools being No. 1 and No. 2 in the nation. 471 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE We hope to have -- our target next year is -- we hope to secure as many as a thousand student teachers in this school system by allowing them to cluster. In other words, when you're dealing with a university, allow the university to send four or five or six student teachers to a single school by providing them with some support, transportation, a subsidy; by allowing them, if they're student teaching during the day, to participate in the after school, extended day program. Right now we have 60 student teachers who, because of shortages, teach extended day. And allowing those student teachers who have completed their first semester of student teaching or their semester of student teaching who have done well to serve as substitute teachers, or for that matter, to work as teacher assistants over the summer. We feel that'll do two things. It'll put in each semester about 500 qualified, because a thousand over two semesters is 500, 500 qualified teacher candidates in our schools, in the classrooms working with teachers. And it will also help us recruit. 472 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE So there's going to be more --

Councilman Clarke

Mr. Vallas, can I get back to the SSA's, please?

Mr. Vallas

No, no. But what I'm saying is there's going to be more resources coming into the schools to perhaps perform those functions that SSA's perform.

Councilman Clarke

I understand that. I just want to for a minute focus on SSA's. Do you know the specific categories of SSA's? Lunchroom aides. What else?

Mr. Vallas

We're not looking at the bussing aides. The specific SSA categories that we've identified are the kindergarten SSA's. But many of those SSA's perform other functions in the schools. They may be in that line, but schools use SSA's for a variety of functions.

Councilman Clarke

And more often than not, those SSA's are not only -- well, they're always city residents. But the likelihood is that they're residents of that immediate community.

Mr. Vallas

Sometimes, yes. I would say that probably the majority of them may be.

Councilman Clarke

I know in terms of 473 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the attrition program, you're probably just working it out. Can you provide me -- and it obviously doesn't have to be immediately.

Mr. Vallas

We'll get it to you quickly.

Councilman Clarke

But at some point in time, a list of the SSA's by category in terms of their geographical locations, in terms of residence. I don't want everybody's address. But I'd just like to get a sense of -- the reason I bring that question up, in my particular community, I live near Blaine School. And this goes all the way back to the time when I actually went to Blaine School. I don't know if they were called SSA's at that time. But the support staff, the lunchroom people, they were always like somebody's mom or somebody's aunt in the immediate neighborhood. It did a little more than the three hours a day. There was some sense of authority related to that person even in the evening because that person had that authority figure in the school and they carried that into other times. So it's just more than I think just a three-hour job in some respects. 474 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Vallas

Yes, I agree.

Councilman Clarke

Also, there are a lot of people who have these positions who, frankly speaking, they make ends meet with those three hours a day. And I know that once we start the elimination, although I agree with the premise that we need to increase teachers in the classroom, although I clearly agree, there's a human side of the elimination of these jobs.

Mr. Vallas

Let me also put this into perspective. I agree. And believe me, we don't -- my inclination is always to avoid laying off or closing positions. We do not do these things in a vacuum, rest assured. But the dynamic that is at work here is in transforming the system and in shifting from like SSA's and literacy interns to teachers to reduce class size, that's something that's been long overdue. But also, some other things are happening. We're going to expand the parent truant officer program next year. We hope, if we're able to secure the federal grant that we're seeking, to double it from 250 to 500. Many of these SSA's are going to have an opportunity to apply and to qualify 475 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE for those programs. There are in any given year vacancies in lunchroom, custodial, a number of functions. Obviously, there's going to be opportunities for SSA's to matriculate to those type of programs. And I'll tell you what we're working against too. Under the No Child Left Behind Act, staff support has got to be certified. Staff support is now being -- the bar is being raised. You need certified teachers. You need certified staff support. So for all practical purposes, under No 14 Child Left Behind, we're either going to have to reclassify these people or to move them into programs like the parent truant officer program, which doesn't require those classifications, and some other programs that are not considered a classroom support nature, or for that matter, we will be in violation of No Child Left Behind and we could lose some of the funding that we receive for these type of supplemental programs. So while we're closing these positions, there are going to be other opportunities for people to matriculate into the system, through parent 476 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE truant officers, a number of other functions. And we're going to work very hard to make sure that the school support or school operations vacancies that exist are going to be operational vacancies that the SSA's are going to have an opportunity to move in. Also, one more thing. Again, if the Rendell administration is successful in getting their funding through, we are going to go back to the schools to look at ways of enhancing school support, classroom support to an even greater extent. Now, does that mean that we won't lay off the SSA's? It means we will create more classroom support positions that meet the guidelines of No Child Left Behind. And the SSA's that are in the school system will have an opportunity to meet the standards that are required, and we'll help them so that they can be staff support in the schools and not be in violation of No Child Left Behind. So we'll get you the information that you've requested. But again, there are going to be opportunities for people to move or the people to move into other positions. And again, the ultimate outcome we're really two or three months away from 477 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE determining.

Councilman Clarke

Also, can you possibly provide me, and I guess going back a couple of years in terms of new hires, the geographical residency of teachers?

Councilman Clarke

I want to follow up on one of the questions that Councilman Nutter asked you about the city support for schools capital programs. And you indicated that it was in large part intended to support Beacon schools and after school programs.

Councilman Clarke

My recollection, to some degree of a part of that financing, was to assist the city in consolidating its recreation facilities. Unfortunately, because we have a very dire budget situation, we're going to at some point look at eliminating or consolidating facilities. And there was some thought that in instances where there was a school in close proximity to a rec center that is being under-utilized or in disrepair, we would close the facility and then make opportunities in the schools. 478 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Is that level of discussion happening between the city and the school district on this capital budget?

Mr. Vallas

We've been meeting with the city to, in effect, talk about what the actual commitment is. And right now we're really waiting to get more details. But I think the example of a project that you described where you would have a rec center that is under-utilized, a rec center with like a swimming pool, for example, and that rec center could be used for Beacon programs and after school and extended day programs as well as early childhood programs, and that rec center could be upgraded so that the pool could actually be used, I would certainly consider that to be an item that we would put on our list when we seek that million dollars 19 in city capital support for our initiatives. 20 I think that would fall in line because 21 based on what we've been told, they were talking 22 about after school, extended day, community-based in 23 partnership with school programs, Beacon style 24 programs. And of course, the facility that you and 25 I had an opportunity to tour could be tailor-made to 479 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE support those type of programs.

Councilman Clarke

I was actually looking in a different direction. As an example, if we had a city facility that has an outdoor basketball court and we were not in a position to continue the operation of that facility, the maintenance or anything, and we had to ultimately shut that facility down and there was a school in close proximity that may have had an indoor basketball court, there was some questions about access. And I'll give you an example. In Strawberry Mansion, at one point we had a program, an after school and a late evening basketball program in that school. But then there were some concerns about access to the school because you had to go through the main entrance and had access to other parts of the school. And this was years ago. We had looked at the possibility of creating an entryway into the school that would take you directly into the gym and would not allow you access to the rest of the school. And what we thought, at least in my mind, in terms of capital improvements to various schools, that we looked at 480 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the possibility of creating opportunities in schools in proximity to centers that we wanted to close that would allow access to those schools for not only basketball, but for computer educational opportunities.

Mr. Vallas

I would certainly see that as an eligible -- as something that would come under the category of city funds given to the school district to help facilitate the opening of schools and the accessing of schools to communities and community-based organizations. Yes, I think that would certainly be something that would be eligible. And let me just say this to the Council too. If you have specific concerns and specific recommendations, we can certainly take a look at that and try to fit that in our list, because I've told Karen and my operations people let's put a list together of the type of projects that we think would be eligible and let's go to the city and let's say, okay, these are the type of projects that we feel fit under this plan and this is the priorities of requests, and then basically leave it up to the city and the Council to make the final determination.

Ms. Burke

And I was also going to add, 481 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Councilman, that that particular high school is in our capital plan. And when we look at a building from a rehab sense, we look at it holistically. And we are in accord that the best way to operate the building is to quadrant off the recreational areas. So whenever we're in a building, we're going to look at that.

Councilman Clarke

One continuing concern that I've had, because I've actually asked this question of the city and its capital programs office and now I'm asking this of you, it doesn't seem that you guys are talking. Are you talking?

Mr. Vallas

Yes, we talk. We meet constantly.

Councilman Clarke

With Rick Tustin and Dick Richards and all that?

Mr. Vallas

Believe me, our eyes are getting bloodshot. We're having conversations all the time.

Ms. Burke

Right. We are having conversations a lot. And I should point out that in April we go to the plan commission here because we ultimately must formally present our capital program 482 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE to them.

Mr. Vallas

I'll also tell you this too. One of the things, as Councilman Ortiz pointed out, was we did not come here to say woe is us, please give us more resources, just as we did not go to Harrisburg and do the same thing. But we're going to need some support because as we move forward to secure land for new high school and new elementary school construction we not only need community involvement, but we do need city involvement because we do not want to build any more schools that are curb to curb. Our schools need campuses. Our schools need outdoor facilities. We need soccer fields and football fields and outdoor tracks. I mean, schools are economic development engines. If we open quality schools, it does more to revitalize the community and revitalize the neighborhood. So we're going to need your help too because the one thing -- look, we're moving along with our contracts. We got a waiver from the four-part bidding process for three years. The opportunity is before us. But the thing that will 483 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE trip us up -- we have money for land acquisition. But the thing that will trip us up is our inability to secure land and our inability to clear that land and to prep that land so we can get the construction going. And we're going to need the leadership of the Council to help us get that done.

Councilman Clarke

I think some of us and I know the Mayor has characterized what some people call the state takeover of the school district, he characterizes it as a partnership. And I believe it should be a partnership because I think that we need to be in a position to assist you on acquisition issues. I mean, we have an NTI bond initiative that allows us to acquire land. You may have resources and some other facets of our ability to take care of our citizens and our children. So we look forward to working together on that. Kind of related to that question, in terms of -- in your capital project proposals, I see that it's primarily dealing with schools. Do you have an alternative budget or an additional budget that talks about athletic and community centers that are also owned by the school district; and if so, is 484 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE there a strategy for those facilities that need upgrade?

Ms. Burke

Yes, sir. As part of the unallocated-at-the-moment budget out there for the capital program, every year for the next five years we'll be working on athletic facilities out there. You've already met Dr. Williams who was up here from high schools. And so we will be working from the build-it side very closely with him after the identification of the fields that need work. You've been around long enough to know that a number of these fields really need a lot of work out there. It's often an expensive proposition. It could be a million dollars a field. But can you rest assured that we're going bring them in because now that we're competing statewide we're going to have the facility. But there's money set aside.

Councilman Clarke

I actually saw a field that looks the same as when I played on it. And I'm not going to tell you how long ago that was. But it was quite sometime ago.

Mr. Vallas

It must have looked much, much worse. 485 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE (Laughter.)

Councilman Clarke

Okay. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Madame Chair.

Councilwoman Miller

Thank you, Councilman Clarke. Councilman Ortiz, is your light on or did you turn it off?

Councilman Ortiz

No, it's on. Thank you, Madame Chair.

Councilwoman Miller

You're welcome.

Councilman Ortiz

Well, I had my conference. I want these teachers fired. No, just kidding. (Laughter.)

Mr. Vallas

How did she do?

Councilman Ortiz

They did well.

Councilman Ortiz

My son, I have to say, the athlete, he went up to the 3rd grade. I don't know. Two levels, whatever it is. So he saved himself.

Mr. Vallas

He can come home now.

Councilman Ortiz

He was very worried last night. Let me tell you that. And the young 486 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE lady, she has something to answer to. Yesterday you said that only percent 4 of our kids take the SAT's? Is that what you said 5 yesterday? 6

Mr. Vallas

I think the number on SAT's 7 was 70 -- what was it, Creg? 8

Mr. Creg Williams

The SAT examination 9 was 5,000. 10

Mr. Vallas

5,000. Now, that doesn't mean only 10 percent because only one grade takes the SAT. There's 61,000 kids in high school. And there's probably twice that number of juniors, I would say, or probably more so than that.

Mr. Creg Williams

We have close to 12,000.

Mr. Vallas

12,000. So only 5,000 of the 12,000 juniors then are taking the SAT.

Councilman Ortiz

Say it again?

Mr. Vallas

Only 5,000 of the 12,000 juniors then are taking the SAT. So about 40 percent, 45 percent.

Councilman Ortiz

And of those 12,000 --

Mr. Vallas

It's actually smaller than 487 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE that because many seniors can take the SAT too. So you may be talking about a third of the students, a third of the eligible students in that junior year actual taking the SAT.

Councilman Ortiz

Do you have, by high school, the number of students that graduated and go on to higher education? For instance, I'd like to know how many kids from Kensington, for instance, went to four-year college, went to community from Edison and Mastbaum and so on down the line?

Mr. Vallas

I don't think in the past the school district -- well, the school district did not keep those records in the past.

Councilman Ortiz

I think that we should, don't you?

Mr. Vallas

Oh, absolutely. And we will.

Councilman Ortiz

Don't you believe that that's a barometer of our success?

Mr. Vallas

It should have been done for the last 40 years. Absolutely. The graduation rate --

Councilman Ortiz

How do we measure success if it's not that way? 488 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Vallas

I'm with you on this. Absolutely. And that's part of the high school redesign. We will track the students into college to try to identify not only obviously who's entering college, but also who's graduating from college.

Councilman Ortiz

Do you have now the actual graduation rate by high schools?

Councilman Ortiz

Could you give us that?

Mr. Vallas

We have that broken down by graduation rate, SAT's by high school.

Councilman Ortiz

I would like to see that.

Mr. Vallas

And honors too.

Councilman Ortiz

If you could tell me -- for instance, I remember one of the things that really hit me in terms of how deeply in trouble we were, how deep our problems were, I was a speaker at a graduation around 11 years ago, I think it was, 11 years ago at Kensington. And the principal had told me that out of I don't know how many, 1500 kids that entered 9th grade or whatever, only 75 were graduating at that time. 489 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Vallas

I believe it.

Councilman Ortiz

And I'd like to see what has been the graduation rate so we can have a measuring stick for next year's conference that we have here. If you can give us the entering class of this graduating class that is going out for four years back --

Councilman Ortiz

-- of all the high schools, number and the expected graduation. And if you can, again because I'd like to see, if you can, give us your estimate of how many of those per high school are going on to four-year colleges or community college and so on.

Mr. Vallas

We can give you -- College Board, who specializes in honors and advanced placement programs, did a study for our high school division, for Creg. And it lists the high schools by school. It identifies the number of kids taking PSSA, SAT, the number of honors courses, the number of kids who are taking AP tests. So we have that information broken down neatly by school. We also obviously have dropout information by school. I don't know if we have the 490 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE information -- I don't think we have the information of the student enrollment by grade year by school. We have that aggregate number. And that aggregate number shows 21,000 freshmen and 9,000 seniors. But we'll try to get you most of the information you're requesting.

Councilman Ortiz

And I'd like to get -- specifically, I'd like to see Olney, Edison, Kensington. I'd like to look at those specifically. But I want the other ones for comparison. I hear that we are going to be taking a recess, slight recess. So I will leave you for now.

Mr. Vallas

We'll get it.

Councilman Ortiz

But I'm very glad by the reports I got today was very good, good teaching.

Councilwoman Miller

Thank you. We're going to take a break until 4:30. Thank you. (Brief recess.)

Council President Verna

Good evening, everyone. This is the continued public hearing regarding Bill Nos. 030009, 030012 and 030013. Our first group to testify will be the Coalition to Save Stanton School. Who will be 491 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE testifying? Whoever is testifying please approach MR. VALLAS table. Who is going to testify first? Can we have attention, please. Kindly identify yourself for the record and proceed with your testimony. (Mr. Shepard came forward.)

Mr. Shepard

Good afternoon, Councilwoman Verna. My name is Gary Shepard. I'm a member of the Stanton Coalition.

Councilman Ortiz

Madame Chair, if I may.

Council President Verna

Yes. Councilman Ortiz.

Councilman Ortiz

This is Paul Vallas' first actual hearing after a budget hearing in the City of Philadelphia.

Council President Verna

With the community. And he's not going to be able to stay for the entire session. But I appreciate his being here. And whenever you have to leave, you'll just let us know. Thank you. Please proceed, Mr. Shepard.

Mr. Shepard

Yes. We also will be passing out packets. 492 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Members of City Council, good afternoon. My name is Gary Shepard. I am a member of the Save Stanton Coalition and also an alumni of Stanton School. First, I want to thank you so much for giving us this opportunity to speak with you and be heard today. Next, I would like to present our mission statement, which is on in our packet, which is being handed out now. We actively and progressively promote an effective, safe, creative learning community which will provide a sound basis for the educational development of our young successful minds. Next, defines who we are. We are a very diverse group of parents, grandparents, neighbors, teachers, senior citizens, alumni and home and school association members.

Council President Verna

Why don't you give a copy to Mr. Vallas.

Mr. Shepard

We strongly believe we are second to none. On you will see the goals of this highly diverse group. Number one, we need and want Stanton School to stay open for the children and the community. Why? Because it already has many of the 493 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE key ingredients that the school board says is essential to effective learning, such as small classes. Two, an art and music program integrated into the curriculum. Very effective and very energetic management. Four, very heavy parent and community involvement. We are very confident that Mr. Vallas shares these views. As you look further in the packet, you will get more depth of the gold mine that already exists at the Stanton School. Finally, on you will see the names of just a portion of the support that Stanton School receives for free from the community, parents, grandparents, businesses, churches, clergy, colleges and just plain old friends of education. Please, I urge you, let us not make a mistake by closing such a valuable monument to the future of the community education in the Philadelphia public schools. Let us be partners in a just cause for our children. Let us keep the precious programs that Stanton offers. And I might say with confidence that many of the suburban schools would be green with envy if they knew what Stanton School offers to children and the community. 494 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE When these programs were instituted at the Stanton School, they were to mirror the thought behind the building of the pyramids in Egypt: Built to last forever. Give the program the five years that was set aside for it to show success. If we can build two new stadiums that cost over one billion dollars to build without batting an eye, then you can't tell me with a good conscience that we can't or shouldn't keep Stanton School open. Please, I urge you to join us in keeping a school and a program open that already shows tremendous signs of success. Thank you so much.

Council President Verna

You're welcome. Our next witness. (Ms. Miller came forward.)

Ms. Miller

Hello, Councilwoman Verna. My name is Verna Rae Miller. I'm also part of the Coalition to Save Stanton, of course. I have been a resident of South Philadelphia schools for my entire life. In that time I've seen the area slowly evolve to what we have today, and E. M. Stanton has always been a positive part of that equation. 495 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE My son has been at Stanton for kindergarten and 1st grade. He has started to become an active part of the school community. The diversity of Stanton education has helped him appreciate his community and his neighbors. Stanton has been a center point of this area not only for the part of my son's education, but also for my own. In closing, I just want to say that Stanton is an integral element of South Philadelphia flavor as a city-run public school. This is coming from someone raised in this area, educated in this area, and we bought a home also in this area. Let's keep Stanton open as a public school. Thank you.

Council President Verna

You're welcome. Please identify yourself for the record. (Ms. Ellis came forward.)

Ms. Ellis

Good afternoon. My name is Vickie Ellis. I'm as resident homeowner. I live at 1520 Christian Street. Lived in the neighborhood 19 years and have owned the home for 11. Stanton is my neighborhood school. Private business, agencies and foundations are being strongly encouraged by our national leaders to provide their personnel and 496 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE capital in support of schools nationwide. Long before ads on TV and presidential messages were prominent, we at Stanton School had established such partnerships. I'm going to just mention a few briefly. The mentoring program. For the past nine years, an average of 45 adult volunteers have met one on one with students in a weekly school-based mentoring program funded and sponsored by a neighborhood community group, Bainbridge House. percent of Stanton students have mentors. 13 Our volunteers come from many 14 organizations, including Tindley Temple, United 15 Methodist Church, the nearby Scottish Rite senior 16 housing complex, St. Peter's Episcopal Church, the 17 University of the Arts and Stanton alumni, to name a 18 few. 19 Nine students from Drexel conduct the 20 Junior Achievement Program where our students are learning money and business concepts in classes coordinated by these college men. For the past several years, the YWCA has coordinated a tech girls after school program for 5th and 4th grade girls. This year, inspired by The 497 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Y, Stanton's computer teacher is managing the program directly. We also have a volunteer who specializes in computers and assists our computer teacher weekly. Volunteer readers have been a part of Stanton for seven years. Originally, they read to and with students. But once the 100 book challenge program was instituted, most became 100 book challenge coaches. The arts are a part of the very climate at Stanton. All students participate in cultural arts classes weekly. In class, they learn the cultures of the world through art forms, visual arts, music, dance and drama. We may be one of the few elementary schools in the country with a fully equipped artist's studio. We have partnerships with the Clay Studios, Strings for Schools, the Folklore Project and others who have brought their programs into Stanton for multiple years. One of our largest collaborations is with the University of the Arts and Moore College of Art where 50 Stanton students attend Saturday art classes funded by scholarships. A professional 498 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE painter volunteers her time one and a half days a week to guide the students in their painting and drawing. Three students were just awarded cash prizes for their artwork in a contest sponsored by HUD and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. An artist in residence joins Stanton weekly to run a dance club. The Stanton School mentoring program and the cultural arts program have established a reputation in the City of Philadelphia. Groups about to start mentoring programs are sent to visit Stanton as a model. None of this work would be possible without financial support. Many of the art supplies and all of the scholarships, visiting artists, musical instruments, mentoring expenses require funds not found in the Stanton budget. Over the years, many foundations have provided grants to support us, including the Fels Foundation, Dowdy Foundation, The Philadelphia Foundation and the William Penn Foundation, to name a few. Individuals and churches have supported our endeavors with funds as well as volunteers. And 499 03/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Universal, of course, is our newest partner. Stanton School's enriched environment enhances and enlivens each student's learning experience. I know I speak for so many of these community partners who join us in the Coalition to keep Stanton School a school. Thank you very much.

Council President Verna

You're welcome. Councilman Ortiz. COUNCILMAN ORTIZ. Yes, thank you. I would like to hear from Mr. Vallas as to the rationale for the closing.

Council President Verna

If you don't mind, Councilman, I think there are other witnesses that want to be heard. So I would like, as long as Mr. Vallas is here, I'd like him to hear them. Thank you. 500 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE (Reported by Lisa C. Bradley) - - -

Council President Verna

Terry, identify yourself for the record and proceed with your testimony, please.

Ms. Gillen

My name is Terry Gillen, and I'm the Democratic Ward Leader for the 30th Ward in which Stanton School is located. I'm working with the Coalition to Save Stanton School and want to emphasize two points made in their testimony. First, the School District is closing, not one, but two schools in the 30th Ward. Although I understand the need for the School District to right-size its facilities, this seems like too much for a single neighborhood to bear. But what really does not make sense is that the 30th Ward has been gaining population in the last five years. I monitor voter registration data closely, as you can imagine, and we have added new residents and voters, a 6 percent increase in the last five years. This is the result of Center City development moving south of South Street at an astonishing rate. The School District is probably using 2000 census numbers, but those statistics will not pick up this 501 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE recent trend. If this trend continues, then I believe the School District may be making a big mistake by closing these schools. My other point is that I personally do support school choice. I'm on the board of a charter school, and we have several good charter schools in the 30th Ward, including the World Charter School which had the greatest improvement in test scores of any charter elementary school in the last round of testing. However, as you know, charter schools are not neighborhood schools. Real school choice must also include excellent neighborhood schools that are run by the School District and are available to parents who want that alternative for their children. By closing Stanton, the City would be removing that choice for these parents. I want to thank Paul Vallas for his willingness to work with us and to listen to our voices. He's been very generous with his time on this issue. I urge City Councilmembers to join in our effort and to work to keep Stanton School open. Thank you. 502 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you.

Councilman Ortiz

What is the other school?

Council President Verna

Durham. And we also have St. Charles, which is a parochial school in that immediate vicinity which will be closing, I guess, in June. So I would certainly think that many of the children that are going to St. Charles might very well be going to Stanton also. Good evening.

Mr. Bethea

Good evening. My name is Tacuma Bethea, and I'm with the Save Stanton Coalition. I'm an uncle of three at Stanton School. Overcrowding is a major issue of Philadelphia's public school students. Overcrowding has persisted in some schools for a decade or more. During the '60s and '70s, many schools were built just to handle the overcrowding, but not the education component. Now that the students are not fairing well in schools, we want to add new buildings as a way to stimulate learning. While that may be true if a school building has deteriorated beyond design capacity, education 503 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE capacity, and enrollment capacity, closing due to enrollment is not the answer. Calculation of the enrollment capacity is a sensitive issue school districts use as if the basis for making a decision for closing schools or for constructing new ones, but enrollment capacity is not a fixed number for the life of a school, and changes often cause credibility issues with the public as they try to understand the changing nature of this number. Local, state, federal initiatives to reduce class size have drastically changed the enrollment capacity of many schools. Program changes, current teaching methodologies, and increases in special education classifications have also caused school and district capacities to decrease. Understanding capacity and utilization of a school is essential to developing appropriate solutions to the problem facing the school. Design capacity is the number of students which the building was originally designed to accommodate. All design capacity does is state how many children can be in the building. Design capacity may no longer be a true measure of how much space you need to do a good job or educate your 504 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE children. Elementary school buildings are considered as being overcrowded if its enrollment exceeds 80 percent of the school's design capacity. Program capacity is the number of students whose educational needs can be adequately addressed in the current facility which may actually be less than a number of students that were originally envisioned as attending the school 20, 30, 70 or 100 hundred years ago. Enrollment capacity is defined as the maximum number of students that a school building can satisfactorily accommodate at one time for the particular education program or curriculum offered. Elementary school capacity is calculated by multiplying the number of regular grade level classrooms by the maximum number of students that can be assigned to a teacher in those classrooms. It has been suggested that we send the displaced children to Arthur Elementary. Arthur has classrooms. If 25 students are put in each of 22 these classrooms, as per Mr. Vallas request, there 23 will be 650 students at Arthur Elementary. However, 24 Arthur has only a 528-person building capacity 25 limit. Stanton has 178 students, Durham has 202 505 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE students. When we add these to the 299 students already at Arthur, we have a total 680 students. Arthur would be overcrowded by percent or 30 5 students. However, enrollment capacity in this case 6 far exceeds building capacity. This means that the 7 school would actually be overcrowded by 129 percent 8 or 158 students. 9 This is the basis for our argument that 10 Stanton should stay open as a small school instead 11 of these students going to a school that would be 12 overcrowded by their presence or entrance into that 13 school. 14 Communities should treasure their small 15 schools, and policymakers should protect these 16 schools with sound policies and financial support. 17 Legislators and other decision-makers should 18 implement policies that limit the number of students 19 in a facility to the range compatible by placing 20 limits on renovation and outdated codes and 21 regulations that promote construction of large 22 schools. Thank you. 23

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. 24 You have been so loyal. Thank you so 25 much for coming in. 506 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Good afternoon. I think I can probably speak as one of the oldest living alumnus of Stanton School. I was there from 1927 to 1933. I was fortunate enough to have two of my children attend there, so as a result I can attest to the quality of Stanton School. Now, during the years that have passed, many of the families and homeowners have moved out of the area because of the fact that financial institutions red lined the area, making it almost impossible to acquire improvement loans. And many of the former residents I have encountered through the recent years have told us that it wasn't because of the lack of the quality of education, but merely a matter of economics, thus creating tremendous reduction in the number of students in the elementary school. However, now, there are currently over 200 new and recently renovated properties available, and the people are moving in just about every day. More families will need quality education for their children. So in conclusion, Mr. Vallas, if you are genuinely concerned about the scholastic achievement of these children, I will gladly volunteer my 507 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE services to escort you through the area so that you can see firsthand what is happening and how it's important to the community.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you.

Ms. Gillen

Before the last speaker, I just neglected to say we've gotten letters of support from many of our State legislators, and I wanted to refer specifically to a letter that we got from our State Representative Harold James, again, a letter to Mr. Vallas urging him to keep the Stanton School open.

Ms. Trott-Batipps

Thank you. My name is Stephanie Trott-Batipps, and I'm here as a grandparent who has three children who attend the Stanton School. I'm also here because I support public education and I am one who went through the system, had children to go, and look forward to my grandchildren going through public schools. What bothers me is that we sometimes throw things that are old away and not realize how much of a treasure they are. And Stanton is that. While there seems to be a thing of sending children out of the neighborhood for quality education, we should be staying in our neighborhoods 508 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE and building in that. And I have to thank Mr. Vallas for reminding us, in our talks, that it's important that we take pride in our school as parents, as educators, that we make it a community effort. And what you've heard today is a community speaking, those who have an interest in the school, those who care for what happens in our neighborhood, and those who care for a neighborhood that is expanding. There are statistics in the packets, as you will read along, that show the expansion. We put this packet together, ant it's not a final piece; however, it gives you some interesting facts, it gives you a chance to look at points of interest, and it makes it easier if you want to know why we feel that Stanton should stay open. We could talk for hours and hours of the famous people that went to Stanton School; Marian Anderson, for one. But we need to talk about the famous people we are making in Stanton, that being the little people who are now there getting their education. We could talk about growth rate, but we can't talk about it unless we make that rate happen. So when we sit here and we ask you about 509 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE reconsidering, time, effort, and thoughts and duties have been put into this. So I ask you when I think about it and you make some decision, think of us as a community, a safe community. Stanton was one of those schools that was awarded a Safe School Award. This is a pride because neighbors know their children, the parents know the neighbors' children. We can walk our kids to school. We can watch other kids when someone is not around. It's important when a birth rate is growing, 117 new children are being born that will enter, we hope, the Stanton School. We want to make sure when there are buildings that are coming, houses that are being built, there is a place for them to go. So we here ask you as the Stanton Coalition to think about it. Again, I'd like to thank Mr. Vallas. He's been most kind and gracious in meeting with us and talking. And I think that takes a lot of effort when you've made some decision. So again, I thank you. I thank the City Councilpersons. As a matter of fact, the Save Stanton School Coalition thanks you all. Thank you again.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. I would just like to say a few words, if 510 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE I may. In all of my years in the community, I have never seen the community rally on one issue as they have on the Stanton School issue, and I think you're all to be commended. I know that there were numerous meetings at the school and I know that Mr. Vallas attended many of them, and I think what impressed me most was -- you know, I was told that the School was 75 years old. And when I walked in, I was truly impressed with the cleanliness of the school, and more importantly, I was very, very impressed with the students. They were well behaved. They were quite talented. They entertained us for a period of time. And I think that the teachers at Stanton and the principal can be so proud of what they have done with that school. I also want to commend the Coalition. And with that, I am serious when I say I stand to applaud you. Without you, that would have never happened. (Applause.)

Council President Verna

I mean that sincerely. You've done a fabulous job. And I know that Mr. Vallas has heard, not every word, but every 511 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE syllable that you have said. And every syllable, I am sure he will consider in making his decision. And I know we're all hoping that it will be the right decision because the Coalition is not going to go away, I'm sure. (Applause.)

Council President Verna

Mr. Vallas, did you want to say something? Now we're going to weigh every syllable you say.

Councilman Ortiz

Madam Chair, the Coalition is not going to go away and neither are we. (Applause.)

Mr. Vallas

First of all, let me thank the Coalition and the Coalition'S leadership because they've really been delightful to work with. And I've actually met with them now on three occasions, and just this past Saturday. And I'll tell you, it's a great coming together of the community. All of the community should come together. But what's been really nice, a lot of these public hearings can become very contentious. And when you participate, sometimes it becomes confrontational. And I'm not afraid of confrontation. Sometimes some people 512 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE think that's the way I exercise. But at the end of the day, the meetings were delightful. You come in hoping that you can get out in an hour and you stay for a two and a half hours and then you're the last one to leave. And it's in large part due to the leadership. It's really been a delightful community and it's great to see the multi-culturalism, the diversity in the community and just the social economic diversity. So I do want to congratulate them. Let me make a couple points. We all understand what's at stake here. As we embark upon our efforts to revamp the school system, the school system has a reputation, whether earned or undeserved or deserved, of not spending resources wisely. When you have lost percent of your 18 student population or whatever that decrease has 19 been, when you have buildings that are half empty 20 and sometimes two-thirds empty and you continue to 21 operate and maintain them, let's forget about all 22 the other insufficiencies or neglect that the system 23 has brought onto its schools over the years, you 24 develop a reputation. And there is a perception out 25 here that this School District is not afraid to make 513 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE tough decisions. They're not afraid to cut what needs to be cut. They're not afraid to close a building when that building is only one-third full. So, you know, when we identify programs that we're going to cut or buildings that we're going to close, we just don't do that for show. We also do it because we need to free up the money so that we're investing our money in the most cost-effective way possible. But we also do it because we have to justify to the taxpayers and we have to justify to the legislature that we deserve more. " Now, our decision to recommend this school for closing was based on the following statistics: First of all, this school, the enrollment -- the capacity, it's a three-story building, 482 capacity; it has 166 students in the school. I just want to point that out. So it's less than one-third full. In addition, it has lost 51 percent of its enrollment over the past four or five years. Now, we can talk about why it's happened or why it didn't happen or what the 514 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE circumstances were, but this is a building that has or classroom teachers and or or 4 classrooms, whatever that is. That is not an 5 efficient use of our space. 6 And if you look at Durham four blocks 7 away, they've lost 50 percent of their kids. And if 8 you look at Arthur and Pierce, they're at 50 percent 9 capacity. So I have schools in the area that are 10 either half full or one-third full. So that's not 11 an efficient use of our resources, not to mention 12 the fact that the building is in need of repair. 13 Also, when we were looking at schools in 14 candidates to close, we also asked ourselves this 15 fundamental question: We know we've got to get rid 16 of our middle schools; where do the kids go after 17 5th grade? Now this is a school with no auditorium, 18 no gym, no cafeteria for all practical purposes. 19 It's going to be very difficult to add grades, to 20 add 6th, 7th and 8th grade. Well, the kids are 21 going to have to go to Pierce. Well, we're going to 22 be converting Pierce to K to 8 schools. And Arthur 23 is going to be adding grades so that they can go to 24 K to 8.

Mr. Vallas

25 A comment was made that if we put all 515 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the kids in Arthur, we're going to make Arthur overcrowded. Pierce and Arthur are going to go to K to 8. Plus, under the provisions of No Child Left Behind, any student in a school that's going to be closed will have an option of attending one of the two dozen top-performing schools in the City. Let me point out that the reason we can afford Stanton the option is because Stanton is on the No Child Left Behind under-performing list. This was one of the 86 partnership schools that were identified as the schools to be turned over to private management, if you recall. And, of course, that predated me. Stanton was one of those schools. So our decision to identify this school as a candidate for consolidation and to make sure that, obviously, we would afford the children and their families an opportunity to transfer to some of the best schools in the system was not one that was just made out of a vacuum. Now, that said and done, why have we not finalized the decision on Stanton? We haven't finalized the decision on any of the schools to date. Because there are some circumstances -- let me point out that a lot of people think, well, 516 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE you're afraid to close schools. I will make any recommendation for cost-cutting that I feel is right and that I feel can be justified. But if you have public hearings, you hold public hearings to listen. We can't say, Well, we're going to close four schools but we're going to have a public hearing process, and then after the public hearing process still turn around and close the four schools as if it was predetermined. When we say we're going to have public hearings and we're going to have public input, I don't go out and attend three meetings at Stanton or three meetings Durham or two meetings at Ellison because I'm just going through the motions. You only need one public hearing to go through the motions. When you have three public hearings, you're listening. So it's not a case of us being reluctant to make the tough decisions. I think we've made some tough recommendations before this Council. And so we're not afraid to do that. But there are circumstances that we have to consider. Circumstance number 1, Stanton is a school that's five blocks away from another school we're planning on closing. What's going to be the implication of closing both those schools? 517 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE In addition, we want to convert Arthur, which is not far from Stanton to K to and reduce 4 class size. What's going to be the implications on 5 Arthur? 6 Now, we know we want to convert Pierce 7 to a K to 8 school, but that could be delayed by a 8 year or two. And the Catholic school has closed, although the Archdiocese has communicated to us that most of the students in those Catholic schools have already committed to other schools. But I'll tell you, if you have an exemplary school in the neighborhood, you're going to get a lot of those kids back. So there are circumstances here that are changing the dynamic. Yes, there has been a lot of housing in the area. There's a potential for more housing. It hasn't affected it yet. I'm just telling you because enrollment continues to drop. But because we're closing Durham or we're recommending that Durham be closed. We haven't made a final decision on Durham, and Durham is close by. And because we want Arthur to convert to a K to 8 school and do class size reduction and because we're going to do the Pierce conversion and because 518 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE there's a Catholic school that has closed, we're cautious. We haven't made a decision. We're wrestling with this decision. So there are other circumstances to consider. And then there's also the circumstance of a community coming together. There's something to be said for the community coming together, whatever the catalyst is, whether it's a good catalyst or a bad catalyst.

Mr. Vallas

And I need this community, not only for Stanton, I need this community to come together for Arthur, for Pierce. I need the community to come together for Audenried. I need this community to come together for all the schools in that cluster because all those schools need this type of community effort and this outreach and these partnerships. So there is this factor to consider too, not just for Stanton, but for all the schools in the community. So that's why we've gone through this process, and it is a deliberate process because it's very important for us to communicate to the Council that if we make proposals and we set up a public hearing process, that is going to be a listening process. And we're going to make the 519 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE right decisions in the end, not based on pressure or politics or anything else, but based on substance because you have to make those decisions every day and we have to be a School District that's going to make those decisions on what's in the best interest of the kids. But I thank you for giving me more than five minutes to make my comments. I just wanted the Council to understand -- and I've said this to the community, too, and I think that's a part of the reason we've had such a cordial relationship. But again, our objective here is not to hurt anybody. Our objective here is to make sound educational decisions based on the realities that we have before us. But there are circumstances in this decision that have to be considered, and those circumstances are circumstances that have caused us to pause as we deliberate the final recommendation that we'll make before the School Reform Commission. But we hope to finalize our proposals regarding all four of the schools in the next couple weeks so that we can move to the School Reform Commission in April. But I'll tell you, there's a lot of things to consider. And while I still think the decision and the 520 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE recommendation that was made to consolidate this school is a sound one, there are other circumstances that I believe have to be considered. And I think Madam President has raised those issues both publicly in her best traditional way which is privately because she is always raising relevant issues but she's always doing it in private confidences. The community has really come together and mobilized. And I see a potential to take this type of organizational structure far beyond just a single school. There are other schools in the area that are trouble schools. So that's why we are taking our time and that's why we are reconsidering. And while it's important for me to continue to coordinate with the School Reform Commission before any decision or any recommendation is made to that commission, we haven't made any final decision. And we'll not only consider the information that has been presented today, information that I have received and that I have evaluated and assessed, but we will certainly inform Madam President and individual Councilmembers privately before we make any public recommendations. Thank you very much. 521 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. At this time, the Chair recognizes Councilman Cohen. Councilman Cohen, your light is on; did you want to be recognized?

Councilman Cohen

Well, I had not intended to be recognized at this point, Madam President, but I never want to miss an opportunity. (Laughter.)

Councilman Cohen

And this is an opportunity. I think the single most important factor affecting public education today is the response of the community. When you have an issue that galvanizes a community, makes them as interested as this, what comes through clearly and loudly is that the one factor above all others has to be community support. And this school has such a great record, despite the loss of students, I think we've got to build on what the school has done by starting with the premise that we're going to keep Stanton School open and add to it. (Applause.)

Councilman Cohen

That's why I hope, Mr. Vallas, that your statement will take that into account. Right now, public schools are under attack 522 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE everywhere. Forces of repression have been trying to find a way to get rid of the public school system or to prove that it's much less effective than other systems. Well, if the impact of that is to weaken the school system, it's bad. If the impact of the other pressures is to improve the public school system, then I guess it's good in the long run. I think what's happened here is good in the long run because I haven't seen this kind of demonstration of support for the public school system in a long time. And I must tell you it heartens me to see so many people coming out at this time of the day following the long history of meetings that the President referred to before. I wish everybody good luck. And I hope that Council will be spared the need to ever exercise any extra powers to bring about the kind of decision everybody in this room, I think, really feels ought to be made; and that's long live Stanton. Thank you very much. (Applause.)

Council President Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilman Ortiz.

Councilman Ortiz

Thank you. I didn't 523 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE know that Marian Anderson had gone to that school. And the Nicholas Brothers, does anybody know who the Nicholas Brothers are? The dancers. They're incredible dancers. They are incredible in the grouping of people. I grew up with those guys watching TV, watching those old films. There's a history there, and that history is something that has to be nurtured in this City because this is a historical city. This is a city that prides itself in being able to maintain its historical structures. It doesn't tear them down very easily as other cities have done. And I think as parents and the community comes together, like David said, it is the first brick on good education and partnership in education. And I believe that this is the beginning probably, Mr. Vallas, of your first experiment, of your first test of seeing and joining with a community to build something that is already there, but build upon that and make it better. So I think before you make that final decision to go some other way, look at the resources that are already present, the seeds that have been planted and the roots that have already taken place. 524 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE (Applause.)

Councilwoman Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Good afternoon, everybody. Mr. Vallas, I think you've got to give the Mayor's Neighborhood Transformation Initiative a chance here. I really do. I say it with seriousness. I think that we need to rebuild our neighborhoods, and I would hope that your engineers could figure out a way to maybe downsize these schools, partition them off, because if these neighborhoods are going to grow, that school some day could be full. I know that's a magic wand type of a request. But I think that's undermining the Mayor's Neighborhood Initiative program by closing schools, but I wish you could close them or size them down, use a portion of the school so some day you can reopen it and put additional -- I mean, isn't there a way that you can have these schools continue to operate, reduce the operating cost but not have them operating and use -- like City Hall, half of this place is empty. The courts are moving back in. For years and years and years we operated 525 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE very few offices here in an efficient way, so could you consider --

Mr. Vallas

You're not recommending this as a school site, are you?

Councilman Rizzo

We would welcome a school here if you wanted to do that. (Laughter.)

Mr. Vallas

Like I said, we're looking at a number of issues. As I did mention, I wanted to explain that -- and first of all, you're right on target. We can't be afraid to consolidate our buildings, and I'm not suggesting any of us are. But by the same token, there are extenuating circumstances. And as you pointed out, there is a lot of redevelopment going on in that area of the City. As Councilman Ortiz pointed out, this is a community awakening and a community coming together can serve as a catalyst for doing other things in that community. And as our esteemed President has pointed out time and time again, at the end of the day, there's a lot of schools that have been closed or are closing in those areas. And with the new housing coming in, you don't know a year from now or two years from now what you're going to be facing. 526 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE So all those things have caused us to reconsider our proposal.

Councilman Rizzo

Mr. Vallas, I believe the Archdiocese had a similar situation with Cardinal Dougherty High School. Different community, different environment. And that school's enrollment is probably a third of what it once was, and I believe they shut down half of the building down, actually using some of that space for private industry or the private sector. So again, I would encourage you to look at partitioning possibly some of these schools that are in jeopardy, because I think the Administration and I think the Council would like you to have confidence in what we're trying to do here to turn this City around. Thank you. (Applause.)

Mr. Vallas

Thank you. Thank you, Madam President.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. Are there any other questions or comments from Members of the Committee? (No response.)

Council President Verna

Mr. Vallas, 527 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE thank you very much.

Mr. Vallas

Thank you.

Council President Verna

Our next witness is Ted Kirsch. Again, thank you for coming in. Good evening. Please identify yourself for the record and proceed with your testimony.

Mr. Kirsch

I'm Ted Kirsch, President of the Philadelphia Federation of Teachers, and by my side is my colleague Jerry Jordan, Vice President. Good evening, Council President Verna, Education Committee Chair Miller and Members of City Council. It's an honor for me to speak to you today on behalf of the more than 21,000 members of the Philadelphia Federation of Teachers who work in our public schools. For the past 13 years, I have been coming before this City Council in March to discuss with you what teachers and students need to be successful. Over the years, we've talked about reducing class size to help children master reading and math. We've discussed programs to recruit talented, qualified teachers. And we've explored ways to improve low-performing schools. 528 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Regrettably, the issues haven't changed that much over the years. But now the climate in which we're working to solve them has. For the first time in many years, the PFT and the Administration agree in principle on the reforms that will raise student achievement. Paul Vallas has moved forward on crucial PFT-backed initiatives with a potential to turn struggling schools around. Among them are plans to reduce class size, get tough on discipline, rebuild crumbling schools, develop a rigorous district-wide curriculum, and strengthen middle years and high school education. We've developed a positive relationship with the Administration and succeeded in many cases heading off problems before they become crises. This kind of labor management cooperation will improve our schools and benefit our students. Paul and I don't always agree, but there is mutual respect, constant dialogue, and room for discussion. But improving schools cannot be accomplished without the proper resources. 8 billion in the coming school year. Every year we expect teachers to teach 529 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE the higher standards and educate an increasingly diverse and often disadvantaged student population with fewer real dollars. The investment in Philadelphia's children simply hasn't kept pace with inflation, let alone new demands placed on schools by high stakes testing and unfunded federal mandates. And I emphasize the unfunded federal mandates. Despite years of chronic underfunding, teachers and students in Philadelphia have exceeded expectations. According to Standard & Poor's School Evaluation Services, in each of the past four years, reading and math scores in Philadelphia improved at more than twice the State average. 13 Philadelphia schools ranked among those showing the greatest annual gains in reading and math in the State. We are proud of the progress staff and students have made, but we know that reforms proposed by the Administration and supported by the Federation will not succeed without adequate and equitable funding. In the present economic climate, it isn't likely that the funding crisis will be resolved. So that we must target our investments wisely so they will have the greatest impact on the 530 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE largest number of children. That won't be easy with such an ambitious reform agenda. Among the district's top priorities is reducing class size in grades kindergarten to grade 3, a reform we all know will pay tremendous dividends. For two decades, the PFT has argued that children do better in smaller classes. We've produced irrefutable evidence documenting the life-long benefit of reducing class size to no more than children to 1 teacher in kindergarten 12 through 3rd grade. But according to Standard & 13 Poor's, 72 percent of Philadelphia school children 14 attend classes with more than 24 students; and 36 15 percent are in classes with 30 or more. Reducing 16 class size is expensive. We will need hundreds of 17 new teachers and additional classrooms to give youngsters the individualized instruction they deserve.

Mr. Kirsch

But we must begin a real class size reduction program now so that every child who enters school today is literate and graduates in 12 years. Reducing class size will put us on the road to improving student achievement. But without a qualified teacher in every classroom, our students won't be able to achieve their full potential. 531 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE There is more and more research showing that hiring well-prepared, certified teachers has a significant and positive impact on student achievement. Studies indicated that qualified teachers help children overcome severe disadvantages, including poverty and language barriers and can help close the achievement gap between white and minority students. And while small classes improve student learning, studies show that those gains are unlikely to be fully realized without qualified teachers. The question is what makes a teacher qualified? According to research, a qualified teacher has a degree in education, earned high marks on State teacher exams, and is fully certified. Study after study shows that trained, certified teachers significantly raise student achievement. Conversely, untrained and uncertified teachers produce the lowest performing students and have the highest turnover. Not surprisingly, in Philadelphia where kids have a in chance of having a teacher with an emergency credential, Standard & Poor's found that the turnover rate among those teachers is double the State average. The fact is, unprepared teachers are quickly overwhelmed and leave. As a 532 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE result, students are robbed of consistent, effective instruction, and the District invests repeatedly in training people who don't stay. Student progress is further hindered by the persistent teacher shortage. The District has had about a hundred teaching vacancies all year, and a hundred or more vacancies are filled by long-term substitutes. If we are serious about keeping families in Philadelphia, parents must know that the adult in front of their child's classroom is a qualified teacher, not just a warm body. It's difficult to recruit certified teachers when surrounding districts offer higher salaries and in some cases better working conditions. The District is taking some important steps next year to recruit and retain qualified teachers, with proposals to reduce class size, provide tuition reimbursement, and improve the support and training program. Without these and other incentives, even the most qualified and dedicated teachers will be frustrated and leave the profession, the same way that doctors are fleeing managed care programs and nurses are fleeing understaffed hospitals. 533 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE There are other initiatives that the PFT believes are important to revitalizing our schools, our neighborhoods, and our City. I'd like to highlight them briefly. We believe that the School District should be able to tap into City Social Service funds set aside for tutoring, mentoring, and other after school programs. There are many exceptional education related programs funded from City social service money and their effectiveness could be enhanced tremendously if these programs were fully integrated with the regular school curriculum. High quality early childhood educational programs must be fully funded and available universally to 3 and 4-year-olds. Too many children come to kindergarten eager to learn but ill-prepared for school. I know you are familiar with research showing the lasting benefits of the Head Start and similar programs. But I want to add that not only do good preschool benefit children, but also parents in Philadelphia would be able to go to work every day with a peace of mind knowing that their children are safe and receiving high quality child care.

Mr. Kirsch

Philadelphia has many examples of 534 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE excellence among its magnet and neighborhood schools, Cappa, Masterman, Greenfield, Meredith, and others are the kinds of schools to which any parent would be proud to send their children. We need more of these schools and in every neighborhood. Parents want learning opportunities tailored to meet their children's individual needs and interests. Rebuilding neighborhood schools is the first step to rebuilding neighborhoods. We believe more resources should be channelled into improving neighborhood schools and providing students with more advanced placement, honors, technology, and vocational courses. What is provided to privileged students in this State must become the norm for all students. While we ensure that Philadelphia students get a high quality education in the basics, we must not sacrifice the programs that make school enjoyable; art, music, sports, computer education and libraries are not frills. They are as critical to developing well-rounded adults as math, reading, and science. As we strive to raise student achievement, we cannot forgo the activities, subjects, and services that keep students interested, engaged, and motivated to come to school 535 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE each day. Finally, we urge you to use your authority in these tough budgetary times to put an end to the expensive privatization experiment. Reports from our members in privately-managed public schools indicate that there has been little or no 8 value added by the majority of private companies hired to manage our public schools. In most instances, PFT members have received little additional training, support, or materials this year from outside managers, despite the fact that these organizations are being paid between 500 and 900 more per pupil than other public schools. With five years of standstill budgets, we must invest every dollar wisely to our programs proven to raise student achievement. Money wasted on private managers as well as the majority of charter schools would be better used on after school programs, summer school, tutoring, mentoring, intensified support for new teachers and smaller classes. These reforms are proven to raise student achievement. Mayor Street has done a good job removing old cars from our streets, drug dealers from our corners, and establishing a program to 536 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE demolish dilapidated buildings. Each of these efforts is vital to the rebirth of Philadelphia. But equally important is spending money wisely on what works in our schools. We have a new leadership, a vision, and a new opportunity to turn our schools around and give our students a good education that will prepare them to compete in a job market that demands high-level skills. It is within our grasp now to achieve excellence in our public schools. With your support and leadership, I am confident that we can improve our schools, rebuild our neighborhoods, and continue to revitalize our City. Thank you. )

Councilwoman Verna

Any questions or comments from Members of the Committee? The Chair recognizes Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

I guess I had to wait to be involved in public service for 35 years and become 88 before I heard such a cooperative spirit in the school system. (Laughter.)

Councilman Cohen

It's really 537 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE refreshing and gives one a sense of comfort to know that not only is the superintendent present when the union and the community speak at School Board hearings, because it's the first time I've ever known a school superintendent to be present when the public testifies. (Applause.)

Councilman Cohen

And at a time when generally labor is marked by contentious battles between management and labor to find the spirit of cooperation, I think really that's a wonderful sign for the future of the Philadelphia schools. Thank you, Madam President.

Councilwoman Verna

You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Thank you. I, too, join in with Councilman Cohen. It is, I guess, a demonstration of a new day is dawning and that the cooperative spirit between the PFT and the school administration will help to move the programs along faster and the children will benefit. And I thank you very much.

Councilwoman Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilman Ortiz. 538 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilman Ortiz

I said yesterday that the presentations made by the Board were different. There were no lamentations and only a vision of improvement. And today with Ted and Jerry coming forward, in my years I've never seen a process of 7 cooperation and coming together. And to me, as one 8 who has kids in public school, is something that 9 encourages me. And I agree with you; as soon as we 10 get rid of those companies, we'll be even better. 11 (Applause.) 12

Councilwoman Verna

Any other questions 13 or comments from Members of the Committee? 14 (No response.) 15

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. 16 Is Shelly Yanoff here? 17 (No response.) 18

Council President Verna

Eric Crockett. Please identify yourself for the record.

Mr. Crockett

My name is Eric Crockett, and I am from GAMP Academic School.

Councilwoman Verna

Excuse me somebody please close the doors. Please proceed.

Mr. Crockett

Good afternoon. My name 539 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE is Eric Crockett, and I'm speaking as a member of the Executive Board of the Home & School of GAMP Academic Music Program. As we approach the 30th year, the 30th anniversary of the formation of the excellent magnet school, we have much which to be proud: Proficient and advancement levels on standardized tests such as Stat 9s, PSAs, and TerraNovas, award winning music ensembles, accelerated certification by the State's AFT protocol in March 2002, our Public League Champion baseball team last June 2002. These academic, music, and athletic achievements have occurred because of dedication, drive and determination of the students, staff, and parents and administrators at GAMP over the past 29 years. Much has been achieved with little. The physical plant is totally inadequate to support the needs of more than 500 students who attend grades 5 through 12 daily. This unique grade organization aligned to a music major curriculum has produced over 1200 graduates since the first 16 graduates departed for higher education in June, 1983. Each year, 99 percent of our senior class leaves to pursue a university curriculum in areas of art, 540 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE science, education, business, and other liberal arts fields. The need for an auditorium, gymnasium, library, and cafeteria cannot be over stated. Architectural plans have already been drawn, yet yearly we at GAMP are overlooked as renovations and new buildings for many schools have been revealed in the news. These architectural plans for GAMP are completed because all of us in the school community have made these things happen. We wish to share those plans with the District who have the power to make the plans a reality. The time is now and we need to know what part of the new capital construction project includes the funding for the expansion of this excellent school. Two decades of GAMP graduates have been patient. Let us now begin the third with the promise of support by the new leaders of the School District of Philadelphia.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you, Eric. (Applause.)

Councilwoman Verna

Is there someone from the School District that would be able to respond to Mr. Crockett's inquiry?

Ms. Burke

Yes, Madam President. I'm 541 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Karen Burke, Chief Operating Officer. And I'm sorry, Mr. Vallas had another meeting to attend. We have received information on this program and the school, and we realize what the concerns are out there. Actually, earlier in the meeting, you had mentioned it as well. In the Capital Program, our first step out there is to take some of our funds and do a complete assessment of all of our buildings out there. This kind of activity hasn't taken place in eight years, and so we're aware of deficiencies in buildings, even beyond additions, that lead to the electrical mechanical systems in the building, as well, as they get older. We're also aware that anything that has a high school program in it probably doesn't have a science lab, doesn't have media centers, and things that we consider that high school programs do need. What I can reassure everybody, is that we will take a look at the building. You are aware that not every dollar is allocated at the moment, but we're trying to make the smart decision, get us out of any code violations that we have there, get things running, and then on another pass there look 542 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE to additions out there. And what I can say is that I will be happy to visit the school with staff and take a look at it, and we'll share this information with Mr. Vallas and other plans that are out there. And you are of about other schools in a similar programming nature that have asked for a similar thing.

Councilwoman Verna

Mr. Crockett, what type of renovations are you referring to?

Mr. Crockett

Well, we're just looking for, at this time, just the expansion of an auditorium because we have no auditorium. It cost us approximately $6100 to have a venue. If we have a program, we have to pay approximately $6100 for a venue that would handle all the parents that we have to come to our programs. We also need a cafeteria, a gymnasium. The school is about 70 years old. But we do what we can with we have and we've done it for 30 years and I think that it's time for the kids and the people in that community to get what they deserve. (Applause.)

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. Please identify yourself for the record. 543 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Ms. Malatino

My name is Ann Malatino and my children have attended GAMP -- well, my oldest is graduating -- for eight years now. And my grandfather attended GAMP over 80 years ago, so the school is an old building. As a matter of fact, we just got adult lavatories, I think a couple years ago. The school is an old, old building. There is no auditorium. We have two concerts a year, one at Christmas and one in the spring that are absolutely beautiful, and we have to pay in order for us to have a place for our kids to go and perform. We're having a play, Mame. We have to go to all the schools and ask if we can use their auditorium. We're having it at South Philadelphia High this year. And it costs a lot of money, and our Home & School raises that money. And we're a school that has showed that it does succeed; 99 percent of our children go to college, a lot of parent involvement, I mean, a lot. And I just feel that our school -- I mean, we've been waiting all these years for this, so we do deserve it.

Councilwoman Verna

I will tell you, that GAMP has an absolutely fantastic reputation, they really do. And I know a commitment was made 544 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE this evening that the School District will certainly be looking into it. I don't think it's going to be renovations, but expansion.

Ms. Malatino

We'd like to invite you to come to our school. We'd like to invite City Council and Mr. Vallas to come to our school. We have a play that we're having April 4th, 5th and 6th and 7th. We'd like to invite you to come there, too.

Council President Verna

Why do you have to pay to go to another school?

Ms. Malatino

Well, we used to have it -- well, we still have our concerts at Girard College. And now we have to pay them to go there, $6100 to rent it for the day of our concert. And at South Philadelphia High we have wonderful fathers. As a matter of fact, one of the father's wife is here. He has dedicated two months every single night straight from work until 11, 12:00 at night to build the stage itself, and that we cannot take with us back to GAMP. The money involved in building that stage and the time that this man has put into it, plus the other parents, I mean, it just isn't fair. Why shouldn't we have an 545 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE auditorium when the school is a musical school?

Ms. Burke

If I may respond to that. We'll see that Mr. Vallas is scheduled to come there and we'll let you know. Anybody who knows Mr. Vallas knows that he delights in coming out there, so we'll make sure.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you.

Ms. Malatino

And we'd like to wish Stanton School a lot of luck.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. Our next witness.

Ms. De Catalan

Good evening, Madam Chairman, Councilmembers and other guests. My name is Megan Terry de Catalan, and I am a former JRTC student. I am here today to speak on the positive aspects and benefits of the JRTC program and hope that you will approve the portions of the School District budget to keep this fabulous program running. Before I go into detail about my love for this program, it is important that you understand a little about me. I began my secondary education at the Philadelphia High School for Girls. While there, I suffered a series of strokes and was 546 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE told not to return the following year. While in rehabilitation, I was told I would never go to college and probably never successfully complete high school. When I finally did return to school, it was to my neighborhood school. While I was enrolled in JRTC to fill one of the credits for this graduation, the school had no idea where else to place me. That corner everyone was backed into became the greatest thing to ever happened to me. My instructors took a personal interest in me, as with all the students, become more than I had dreamed. The curriculum re-taught me how to take notes and study, how to give this speech, overcoming dysphasia thought to be permanent. I was taught how cooperation would help obtain even the most difficult goals. Even learning to march left, right, left, right, left, improved my balance so much, I come before you in heels. These are all things even trained rehabilitation therapists had deemed impossible. Yet a couple of retired military personnel made it all happen. Most important, though, were the portions of curriculum that taught pride in my country and myself. These helped me regain the self-esteem and confidence I had lost 547 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE with my disabilities. Now to see the American flag raised is not only a symbol of America, but also a reminder that if I believe, I can achieve anything. Today, I am a college graduate with an AAS in paralegal studies, married with a daughter, a homeowner, and taxpayer. When I was graduating from college, I was asked what one person or thing helped me most in achieving my goals. Without blinking, I said JRTC. Even today, JRTC classes are part of my life: Interview skills, writing business letters and professional courtesies, even reading the map to locate the best way here. How many programs can you say teach all of these things in a single year? Imagine what four years could do for a timid teenager. Maybe instead of the Junior Reserve Officer Training Course, we should call it the Junior Realization and Occupational Training Class. Finally, I hope when my daughter is enrolling for her freshman year in high school that she will have the same opportunity to benefit from this wonderful program. Thank you. (Applause.)

Councilwoman Verna

That's wonderful. Any questions or comments from Members of the 548 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Committee? (No response.)

Council President Verna

Congratulations. It's wonderful.

Ms. De Catalan

Thank you. (Applause.)

Councilwoman Verna

Good evening. Please identify yourself for the record and proceed with your testimony.

Ms. Force

My name is Kanika Force.

Mr. Clark

My name is Aaron Clark.

Ms. Mcclain

My name is Jazmine McClain.

Ms. Tucker

My name is Tina Tucker.

Mr. Clark

Good afternoon. My name is Aaron Clark. I attend Dobbins High School. I'm in 11th grade. I also attend an after school program called City Wide Youth Agency. I've attend City Wide for almost three years. I'm here to talk about school reform. These are some of the things that the students think should be changed: There are too many kids in one classroom. By classes being overpopulated the 549 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE teachers cannot effectively teach or manage their classrooms. For these reasons, the teachers need assistance to help manage the classrooms. Textbooks. By only having textbooks that stay in school, students cannot get the best education possible. We need to have textbooks that we bring home to assist us with homework, studying, and extra credit assignments. We should also like more textbooks in the classroom because sharing takes away classroom time. Teachers. We understand everyone needs to be afforded opportunities to work. Should these opportunities be at the expense of the students' education? We have teachers that are inexperienced and not certified. They are apprentices. In conclusion, these are some of the things that school reform should focus on. This is what the students need. Thank you.

Councilwoman Verna

How many students do you have in your classroom?

Mr. Clark

Around 35.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you.

Ms. Force

My name is Kanika Force (ph). I'm here to talk about casino money being 550 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE used to support schools. Casino money being used to support schools is a positive and a negative thing. Positive things that come from using casino money is that different things can be done with the money. There's great money in casinos these days. Everybody in their family has at least one person who goes to Atlantic City. I think that the casino money should be used to get better teachers because, as of now at my school, mostly we have apprentice teachers, teachers who are not certified but have taught other things and they're used to teaching different things in school. They might have been used to teach chess, but now they're math teachers. We also have teachers in our school who are substitutes who are becoming long-term teachers because teachers have quit unexpectedly and because teachers have to leave school to do certain things, such as have babies, which is something good but we still need more teachers. Also, casino money would be good to use in schools to remodel our schools. As of now, I go to Olney High School. We only have two drinkable water fountains and no working sinks. That means 551 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE that when we go to the bathroom, we have no way to wash our hands. But we are told to always wash our hands when going to bathroom. We have two drinking fountains only on the second and fourth floor which is not good because we have no other ways of getting something to drink in a hot school. I also think the money could be used positively for supporting different things that go in school, such as programs to help children who are not doing so good in school. As of now, since I have an apprentice teacher, I'm not doing well in math. But we don't have the funds to support more after school programs and tutoring programs so children do better. Some of the negative things for using casino money is, who is going to distribute the money? We, City Wide Youth Agency, have decided that we can have six people on a panel who will decide where the money goes. We would have two big business people, two independent people, and two youth. The two youth, they will be there because we're the ones who are in school and who need the money and know where and where not to put it. The two independent people would be there because 552 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE they're people who will help us, the youth, find out how to spend the money, how much goes to what. We would have two big business people because the youth are the future of the big businesses and we, the youth, understand we can be taught from the big businesses how to handle money. Another negative thing about using casino money is, who will own casinos? Who is able to get casinos? Who is able to get license for casinos? Are they really going to give the money to the State, or does the State have to take it out of their money? These are some of the things we talk about in City Wide Youth Agency. Thank you.

Council President Verna

Thank you. (Applause.)

Ms. Tucker

We are here to talk about the problems in our schools.

Councilwoman Verna

Please identify yourself.

Ms. Tucker

Tina Tucker. In 1998, 65 percent of the school related violence ended with death. As a student, I do not feel safe. What approaches should I take as 553 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE a student to prevent this from occurring to others and me?

Ms. Mcclain

Hi. My name is Jazmine. I'm here to talk about the problems in our school also. Many students in our school display behavior problems. At times I feel helpless. Why doesn't the School District hire more professionals that deal specifically with children with behavior problems?

Ms. Tucker

Although when we are in school, we are being monitored from fighting. How can we prevent fighting outside of our school among students? And how come the schools do not contact parents of students that may have been involved in an argument before it escalates to a physical altercation?

Ms. Mcclain

During 1996, about 4,000 incidents of rape and other types of sexual battery were reported in the nation's public schools. In my school, for example, male students have no respect for female students. There have been numerous amounts of fights. The guys give off vulgar remarks to the females, and the girls just 554 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE rub it off as if nothing happened. I know it's wrong, however, females dress provocatively, which sometimes gives the guys the wrong idea about her. The provocativeness of their clothes makes his problem worse. I think at times the boys should be separated, but that is not an effective solution to the problem. Many females are sexually active. Because of this, guys think that girls are ready to engage in sexual relations, which causes problems for those girls who are not sexually active.

Ms. Tucker

Also, in our school a lot of the bullies are also popular and the teachers like them. Because the teachers favor them, they do not punish them for their actions. I think this problem is because a student feels they have no one to go to. Also, teachers think they have a higher authority. When we try to approach them of a certain matter, they dismiss our thoughts and opinions. When we try to express our opinions, they get offensive and try to punish us like we did them some sort of harm.

Ms. Mcclain

Another issue that we have in our school is because of the students' violent, 555 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE disruptive behavior. It prevents other students from learning. This matter, to me, is very frustrating. What steps are the schools taking to deal with the students who disrupt the whole class?

Ms. Tucker

Another issue in our school is that students, so-called gang bangers, feel that they can jump people to get their respect. This is a problem and many students are going to school in fear and they do not feel safe and protected because the NTAs are not always around. Also, students feel threatened if they speak to someone of a higher authority. They might get in even more trouble with those who are bullying them.

Ms. Mcclain

I think the School District should hire more NTAs and police officers for our schools because I think the NTAs and officers that we do have are overwhelmed and they need more help. Thank you. (Applause.)

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. Do you all go to Olney? Do all of the students go to Olney that were sitting at the table?

Councilwoman Verna

What school do you 556 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE go to?

Ms. Tucker

Elverson Middle School.

Councilwoman Verna

I think we have a number of people here from the School District. I think we heard about Olney not having drinking fountains. They apparently have no water in the ladies room or wash rooms. Can we address that issue? And I think this issue at this other school sounds absolutely horrifying to me.

Ms. Burke

Karen Burke again. On Olney, I should mention that if you look at the capital program that that school is slated for some really major renovations out there. So as we get out there and scope that, that will be done relatively soon. The water out there is -- most likely you have water fountains in Olney now that meet your health code out there by distance. All of the fountains, however, and water sources should be completed in our program by June, which was our commitment with the Health Department here for the water. So I think in short order, Olney will have water, water in their bathrooms and will be able to participate in what we consider to be a very nice rehab to a building that really needs it. So we 557 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE will look at the water situation for you next week, and we'll be talking directly to your principal.

Councilwoman Verna

We heard testimony from Ms. Tucker and another young lady; I don't remember her name. It sounds horrifying to me. Can we talk about what's going on in the school and how we're addressing that?

Mr. Green

Yes, Madam President. First of all, I have had an opportunity to visit two of the schools in question here today; one being Dobbins and the second one being Olney. Much of the concerns of the young people, as they have indicated, are very much true and on target. Many of the issues that they discussed, such as lack of textbooks, class size, teacher experiences are the exact same things that you heard Mr. Vallas present in his entire plan and the very same issues that we will be addressing in the high school movement plan. As we look at what the needs are in terms of our high schools for textbooks and curriculum --

Councilwoman Verna

I don't think the girls were talking about textbooks. I don't mean to 558 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE cut you short, but we've had a long day, too. I think you heard what we heard, and I think that either you or Mr. Dexter should address the issues as were stated earlier. I think it sounds horrible. And I'd like to know what's being done to address the problem. If our children don't feel safe in the schools, why would they be going? Or why would their parents want them to go?

Mr. Green

Madam President, I think that one of the things that Mr. Vallas has talked about since the first day he came here was about a zero tolerance for violence in schools. And I think the young lady was from Elverson. One of the things we need to do -- and I've been out to Elverson before -- is to ensure that students feel -- I mean students are not going to learn if they don't feel safe. And I think one of the things -- I'm going to make a commitment to go back out to Elverson and meet with the principal. And if students don't feel safe they're absolutely not going to learn. One of the things I would encourage any of the students sitting here, the School District has a hot line 215-299-SAFE. I would encourage them, if the kinds of issues that 559 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE you raised here are actually occurring and you don't believe that you can reach out to someone in the school, you can use that phone number and we will respond.

Councilwoman Verna

Are the students aware of this? Ms. Tucker, did you know about this number and did you ever use it?

Ms. Mcclain

Most students think that if they call the number, they think they're snitching on somebody and that person's going to get in trouble.

Council President Verna

Slow down.

Ms. Mcclain

Most students think if they call the number, they snitching on another student and the problem is just going to escalate.

Mr. Green

Again, Dexter Green. The only thing I can assure students of is that's an anonymous -- it's not taped. The line is not topped. Your calls are anonymous if you want them to be. You can identify yourself if you want to. If you don't, you just state the problem and we'll respond to it. So I just want to ensure the Council of that.

Councilwoman Verna

I didn't see Ms. 560 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Tucker writing the telephone number down and she said she didn't know the number nor has she used it. So I would like you to repeat that number again. Do you have a pen, Ms. Tucker?

Mr. Green

I'll make sure they have it.

Council President Verna

Please make sure they have it before you leave.

Mr. Green

She said it is listed in the school on the wall. The number is listed in the school on the wall. And it should be. It should be in every school, actually.

Council President Verna

Mr. Dexter, I would encourage you to visit the school. I don't know if you've been there lately.

Mr. Green

Madam President, I will do that tomorrow.

Councilwoman Verna

I think in view of what we've heard here tonight, I think it's gross. It's ugly.

Mr. Green

Mrs. Gonzalez said that we're going to send a team out tomorrow, and I'm personally going back to the school.

Council President Verna

Thank you very much. 561 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Mackey

Madam President, if I can say one thing. First, thank you, Council, for giving us an opportunity once again to come share some of our feelings and how young people feel about these schools. It's more schools than Elverson that doesn't have running water and are handed out bottled water. You can ask young people, they don't use the rest rooms in school. The rest rooms are awful. And I'm not going to say that this Administration is not doing a good job, Paul Vallas and his team, Chicago 27. I'm not going to say they're not doing a good job. But it's some issue there. And I can just tell you that it's still some textbooks missing out of these schools. We have extended school day now, but the kids can't bring the books home and the books -- some of these schools' math and science and reading books that the young people need for us to give them the proper tutoring with certified teachers is extremely expensive. It has to be more of a bridge here.

Councilwoman Verna

Are you saying the books are taken home and not returned?

Mr. Mackey

No. I'm saying that some of the students who come to school all the time, who 562 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE we believe are responsible young students can't get the books even when we write the school for after school extended day tutoring, not to mention the cost. It costs a non-profit organization an additional $25,000 a year to open that school up in the evening and on Saturdays. It's very expensive. So we're saying, while Mr. Vallas' team put this plan together, they have to incorporate the community more. And the schools are not safe. And I'll just tell you about the article. We had an all-day series with young people at William Penn High School two weeks ago. And the things that they say in here, it's horrible. It's not just that going on about the violence. It's the drug use before you enter the school they complain about. It's the sex that goes on in school that they complain about. But one thing today, we did speak to Mr. Williams, and he agreed to sit down. And we asked him to meet with small groups of young people to hear their issues so we can try to come up with a solution. Is that all right, Mr. Williams?

Mr. Williams

Thank you. Councilwoman, 563 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE again, you've heard many concerns. And as we've indicated, we have begun to address many of the concerns and we do a have a lot of concerns at the secondary education level. And obviously many of them have gone on for quite sometime. We are very aggressive in our efforts to address the concerns of our students as well as the concerns that we realize from an educational point that our schools need. We do have some very aggressive plans and we're going to be very excited to share some of the things that we're doing with our young people. Concurrently, we meet with groups all week long, young people, sharing with them what to expect, what the high school's going to look like next year, what are some of the kinds of activities, the kinds of resources, curriculum and textbooks, things of that nature that we know are going to make a difference at the high school level. So I look forward to meeting with this group and sharing with them as I do with many other groups and schools in terms of what to expect and what the high schools will receive and the assistance that they will be receiving from our offices.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. 564 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE The Chair recognizes Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

Thank you, Madam President. Good evening. Great testimony. I just wanted to ask the young lady a question with respect to the casino gambling. Was there a particular reason why she left politicians off the list in terms of the individuals who are going to work on distributing the money?

Mr. Mackey

She had to leave.

Councilman Clarke

Was that just an oversight or was that intentional?

Mr. Mackey

It was an oversight, Councilman.

Councilman Clarke

You've got business people, you've got students; you've got no 18 politicians.

Mr. Mackey

Councilman, I'm sure it was an oversight.

Councilman Clarke

Keep us away from the money, huh? (Laughter.)

Mr. Mackey

It was an oversight, sir.

Councilman Clarke

All right. Thank 565 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE you, Madam President.

Councilwoman Verna

Any other questions or comments from Members of the Committee? (No response.)

Council President Verna

Thank you very much.

Mr. Mackey

Thank you.

The Clerk

Alfredo Calderon and students from Aspira.

Mr. Calderon

Good evening, Madam President and Honorable Councilmembers. My name is Alfredo Calderon. I'm the Executive Director of Aspira, and I'm here to speak. But what I would like to do is give my time to the student members of Aspira clubs. With that said, I would like Ms. Christina Rivera to please come.

Council President Verna

Good evening. Please identify yourself for the record.

Ms. Rivera

Christina Rivera. Hello, my name is Christina Rivera. I am a senior at Mastbaum High School and president of the Aspira Club Federation. I want to start by saying, over the summer, I participated in a number of activities and 566 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE protests in support of public education of our youth. I testified at the SIC meeting and other hearings and I always ask for the same thing: For our leaders to listen carefully to our community. And every time we ask to be heard, it fell on deaf years. And since Paul Vallas has been appointed, he has met with our community and had open discussions about difficult issues. We still have many difficult obstacles to overcome, but we are confident in this Administration's commitment to listen to our concerns and ideas and include our community in the process of decision-making. I am here to support Mr. Paul Vallas and his administration's effort in our school. I'm here to say that I, as well as other students from Aspira, will keep fighting for a better education for the future of our youth. I expect that City Council, along with the School District leadership will continue to provide public forums to openly discuss decisions that affect parents and students. I urge you to all create more opportunities for the community to be involved in making decisions about our public 567 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE education. Thank you.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you.

Ms. Espaillat

Hi. My name is Ellen Espaillat and I'm Vice President of Aspira Club Federation. I just want to address some issues. I'm also from Olney High School. Some things about Olney High School. Well, the kids, they get suspended for doing things in the school and somehow they sneak in the school and they're in the school illegal and they do things, like bad things when they're in there. And this goes to that there's no 14 security -- I mean, there is security, obviously, but not enough because the kids are getting into the schools. Also, books. I have books that would be easy for a 5th grader to read, and I am a sophomore. These are books that we should not be having. I mean, they give a definition for "compass," the word "compass." Teachers. Well, I have an American History teachers who is not qualified to be an American teacher. He's a gym teacher and he's teaching me American History. And I think that I 568 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE will probably not get anything out of that class and fail an exam if I have to take any. The undrinkable water fountains. There are signs up in the schools saying that you can't drink the water because it's unsanitary. The hallways are always dirty. I don't know what happens to the staff that cleans it or maybe there's not enough for the whole school because my school is really big, but the hallways are always dirty and there's always food around and people sneak out of the cafeteria with food and just throw it all over the floor and it's not cleaned up. I think the only time I see it clean is on a Monday when the staff has cleaned it over the weekend. And that's it. Thank you.

Mr. Alverez

How are you doing? My name is Natalio Alvarez. I am a student at Edison High School. And I'm here today basically to say extending the problem is not helping. We need to solutions to the problems. I'm a student at Edison and we have a lot of problems with CEP. I don't know if you know of it. Well, we let out at 2:45.

Council President Verna

I'm sorry, what's CB? 569 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Mr. Alvarez

CEP, it's a disciplinary school. So we let out at 2:45 and they let out a little earlier than us. And we meet up and they basically don't like students from our school for whatever reason and we have had occasions where a kid had his jaw broken and somebody had got stabbed with a pen. And we brought these discussions to Paul Vallas and he promised us more security, which he has kept up. They stepped up the security. And we had another incident where another kid had got his jaw broken. And we had a rally, if I'm not mistaken, on Friday and we met with him at 1 o'clock that day and he said he's going to step up the security again. And I'm just hoping --

Councilwoman Verna

You mean with all of this stepped-up security, there's still problems going on?

Mr. Alverez

Yes, ma'am. And we just want to know how far does this go until something fatal happens. We don't know how far this needs to go until you say, "Well, enough is enough."

Council President Verna

Somebody has to explain. What happens to the children --

Mr. Calderon

The problem with CEP, 570 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Madam Chairperson, is that there are too many students that have disciplinary problems in one school. They need to be separated into smaller schools. But we're here to bring those issues, just like everybody else before have brought those issues. What we're looking at, though, is we know that there is a budget that's been requested by Mr. Paul Vallas and Ms. Nelson Gonzalez and the Administration that they're working towards improving and helping and fixing our schools. We're here to support that and we're here to ask Council that, not only support that budget, but do more. Our kids need books. They need new schools. They need schools where they can go and feel that they're safe, in a safe environment where they're going to learn, conducive to learning. So we're here to ask you, please, support the request and do more. We ask if you can do more, please do so, so we can have kids receive a quality education in the City of Philadelphia and we want to take the opportunity to thank you for giving this time.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilman Ortiz.

Councilman Ortiz

Thank you, Madam 571 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Chair. This organization, Aspira, is probably the oldest Latino Puerto Rican organization in terms of education in the country, established in 1962. And I think it probably has created most of the leadership across the nation that has come out in terms of the Latino community. Ms. Gonzalez, myself, my wife, all products of this organization. The fact that they have taken and they have -- it is a leadership program and there you see the leaders. It is also a program that stimulates and orients these students towards college, towards going way beyond the areas and the environment where they grow up and think they cannot go. And they do reach those goals. Olney has been a problem, has been a problem for a long time. And we need to be able to take care of Olney. The water has been a problem. God, I've been holding hearings since the last term, I mean six, five years ago. I held hearings about the lack of water and dangerous water in the public schools, including Olney, and they still haven't been taken care of. That is something that needs to be resolved, and resolved now. It's something that 572 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE cannot wait any longer. Olney should be divided into many different schools. Actually, it's too huge, it's too big, and something else has to be done about it. But I thank you all for coming and waiting so long to speak. I really appreciate that.

Mr. Calderon

Thank you.

Councilwoman Verna

Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Thank you, Madam Chair. Good evening. It's good to see you here tonight and the rest of the group. You said something that interests me about the need for books. You know, when I first came to this Council, we had a very, very serious problem with kids apparently not having books in schools. Please don't tell me that we're still dealing with the issue. You're still dealing with the issue where you don't have books?

Mr. Calderon

Yes, we are.

Councilman Rizzo

Would you explain please, for the record?

Ms. Rivera

Right now I'm reading a 573 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Spanish book called Maria, and we're not allowed to take it home because we don't have enough books. We have to share it with three or four other classes. And not only that, we don't have enough for a whole class so we have to share with another person or share with two other people. So we can't take it home. And when we are reading it in class, we can't read it alone because we don't have enough books. Like, we have to share it with three or four people.

Councilman Rizzo

Miss, is this a textbook or is this a book that you're just reading?

Ms. Rivera

This is a textbook. And also textbooks, spanish textbooks, we don't have enough. We don't have enough math textbooks. We don't have enough history textbooks. We have to share history textbooks.

Councilman Rizzo

Madam Chair, I don't know the protocol to deal with this, but I'd love the School District --

Councilwoman Verna

I believe the group before us also said something about the lack of books. Is there somebody from the District who is present who can address this issue, please?

Councilman Rizzo

Thank you, Madam 574 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Chair.

Mr. Williams

Madam Chair, again, unfortunately, the students speak a reality. As we see it, as we've gone out to visit our high school --

Council President Verna

I'm sorry. You're going to have to state your name again.

Mr. Williams

I'm sorry. Craig Williams. Again, as we've gone out to high schools, it is a concurrent problem where schools for years have had a problem purchasing and being able to maintain an ample supply of textbooks. Obviously, when you talk to schools about it, they say they purchase them and then they're lost and they have problems continuing to purchase them.

Councilwoman Verna

They're lost after they're purchased? Or are they lost between purchase and delivery?

Mr. Williams

No. When you speak to schools, books are purchased. And what they've claimed is that over the years students have lost books over the years, and as a result they're short on books. 575 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Verna

And we have consistently said that parents should be responsible for lost books. We'll never have enough books. We'll never have enough books if somebody is not going to bear the responsibility.

Mr. Williams

That is correct. Now, what we've done for the record and so the Council will know, our School District, we will be purchasing books for our high school students. Beginning in September as we deliver the new curriculum that Mr. Vallas has indicated, we will be purchasing ample textbooks for all of our students with the delivery of that new curriculum and we will develop a policy --

Councilman Rizzo

Madam Chair, can I continue my questioning, please?

Council President Verna

Yes.

Councilman Rizzo

Sir, I'm looking at a great list here: Additions to relieve overcrowding, boilers, fire alarm systems. If you guys can't keep books in the schools to give these young people an opportunity, throw all this away. I'm serious. It disappoints me to hear that after all that we've gone through that we're even talking about not 576 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE having adequate books in our schools. And like President Verna just said, if you can't develop a process that guarantees that parents be responsible, all of these great things you're doing, if kids can't read a Spanish textbook and take it home and study, that's a failure.

Councilman Ortiz

It's not a question of money, right? I saw $48 million on the budget for books.

Councilwoman Verna

Are you asking the question, Councilman, or are you making a statement?

Councilman Ortiz

I'm saying because I saw $48 million in Mr. Vallas' presentation, $48 million were allotted for books. So I imagine that that should be enough to buy books for all the students in the City of Philadelphia.

Mr. Williams

That is the proposed amount that we're proposing to spend for our textbooks for next year.

Councilman Ortiz

So that should be enough?

Mr. Williams

Unfortunately, we have inherited a problem where they've had a problem with books. We do have and will have a textbook policy 577 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE in place to ensure that our students have books, sir, and that a replacement piece is in place to help deal with that.

Councilman Rizzo

Mr. Vallas was in conference out in the hallway. Mr. Vallas, we're talking and we're hearing from students, this panel and the panel before, indicating that we are still having difficulty with kids -- and these young people have indicated they don't have enough books in school to take books home. Mr. Vallas, with all due respect, all of this stuff is great, but if you can't figure out who keep the books in the schools, make parents responsible, may the students responsible for books, all the boilers in the world and facilities, it just doesn't cut it if we can't keep books in the school.

Mr. Vallas

Well, let me respond by saying the School District with its 600 different curriculum and instructional models, with schools spending money every which way to loose to purchase and acquire materials, until you standardize things, you're going to continue to have this type of performance. Now, this is my first budget. If there 578 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE are not books in the schools next year, then you can hold me directly responsible. Take it to bank. But you are absolutely right. One of the reasons that we are moving to a standard curriculum, one of the reasons that we've laid out how we're going to budget our textbook purchase, one of the reasons why we've been working, for example, with the Parking Authority in communication with the City to be able to secure the money that had been committed to us is because next year we want to purchase -- we will purchase curriculum and instructional materials for every single student in this school system. So I'm not making excuses, but I've been inundated with textbooks issues all year. But, you know, the basic problem is it's like a school's missing text books. Well, what series? Which of the 100 series of textbooks that they use are they missing? Next year there won't be any excuse because the textbook series will be standardized. And let me tell yo a couple of things, too. This whole policy of not letting kids take textbooks home because they're afraid they're going to lose them, well, the idiot that came out with 579 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE that policy is probably the same person who said, "Let's make all the windows plastic and board them up because someone's breaking them." I mean, really, look around. Find me a glass window in the school system. So you can hold me personally responsible. But the reason that we've invested in this curriculum and instruction plan with the models and the textbooks and class size reduction and the professional development training is so that we never have this problem in this school system going forward.

Councilman Rizzo

Mr. Vallas, that's fair enough. But I've been in this Council now going on 7 1/2 years, and I've been hearing about this problem since I've been here. And you're telling us today that this problem is going to be resolved after this curriculum change?

Councilman Rizzo

To hold him accountable next year.

Mr. Vallas

You can hold me accountable next year. And all the things we've laid out that we said we would do this year, we've already begun to do, from the forging of our relationship with the 580 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE teachers' union to after school extended day. But I will tell you, the curriculum instructional forms will be implemented next year and you won't have to wait until March to hold me accountable, you'll know on Day One when school is open in September whether or not the students have the supplies. And if they don't have the supplies, the students from Olney and Edison, the students from Youth United for Change, the students who are associated Aspira will be right here, sending you letters and telling you that's not happening.

Councilman Rizzo

Mr. Vallas, that's fair enough. I can't ask for more than that.

Mr. Calderon

Councilman Rizzo, can I please close? We came in here, brought the issues. This has been happening for many, many years, and we know that. We brought them, but we're because we're hopeful that with the plan and the budget that Mr. Vallas is presenting that things can be fixed. That's why we're here to support that, asking you to support the budget and do more if you can. Give us additional dollars so he can reduce the class size and do everything he can do. So next year when 581 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE we're here testifying, we're here testifying about the great things and great changes that has happened in the school district. Thank you.

Councilwoman Verna

Any other questions or comments? (No response.)

Council President Verna

Thank you. Mr. Vallas, before you leave I'd like to see you, please. Anyone else testify? (No response.)

Council President Verna

Dexter Green, please make sure you get to that school tomorrow. I cannot tell you how that testimony upset me. I think it's horrible.

Mr. Green

I want to let you know we have been right on top on this. At dismissal time at Edison, between the school police officers, the Philadelphia Police officers, the SEPTA Police officers that are out there, and the Administration out -- I mean, there are tons of people out there. And as we fan out around the two schools, the last incident occurred almost 9 blocks from the school. As we fan out -- 582 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

Councilwoman Verna

Are both schools dismissed same time?

Mr. Green

No, they are not. And some of the students are being bused. They've taken care of the dismissal times.

Mr. Vallas

The fundamental problem that we have with CEP is that it's too big. And one of the reasons that we're going to be contracting out with other alternative school providers and partnering with CEP to identify a second and possibly third site is so that we can depopulate that site. You can't have 1700 students in an alternative school right in the heart of high-school-ville, because you not only have Edison, but you also have Nuevas Esperansa (ph) along with other schools in the area. So believe me, we're on top this. But the bottom line is there are too many kids, and we're not going to be able to snap our fingers and overcome that. Because all the kids at CEP are not kids who were expelled from our school system. About half the kids in CEP are kids that are in CEP for other reasons other than the School District. So we're on top of this, but it's going to continue to be big headache. I mean, right now 583 3/25/03 - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE about best thing we can do is to have resources in that street in that area. But I know, so we know, I've literally been in contact, not only with the school, but with the Student Council President and Vice President who call me at home to give me updates of things that are going on in that school. So we are vigilant, we're on top of it. Ultimately, though, we've got to spread out the alternative school students throughout the City, just not congregate them in the a single section.

Council President Verna

Thank you. Anyone else to testify? (No response.)

Council President Verna

Seeing none, this committee will stand in recess until April the 2nd at 9:30. Thank you. (Council adjourned at 6:41 p.m.) - - - 584 C E R T I F I C A T I O N I HEREBY CERTIFY that the foregoing proceedings of the Council of the City of Philadelphia of March 25, 2003, were reported fully and accurately by me, and that this is a correct transcript of the same. RE: COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ____________________________ BRIAN RASCO,