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Minutes

Stated Meeting, June 10, 2004

Philadelphia City CouncilJun 10, 2004

People mentioned

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Organizations mentioned

Councilman Kelly

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

The nays are 7, the ayes are 10.

Council President Verna

Two-thirds of a majority of Council having not voted in the affirmative, the Mayor's veto is sustained.

Council President Verna

Council under a special order of business to the reconsideration of Bill No. 040012. This bill again was passed by City Council at its May 31, 2004 Session and was returned disapproved by the Mayor to today's Session of Council. At this time the Chair recognizes Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Thank you, Madam President. I move that Council reconsider Bill No. 040012 which was approved by Council on May 31, 2004. (Duly seconded.)

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded. All in favor, let it be known by saying aye. (Aye.)

Council President Verna

Those opposed, nay. (No response.)

Council President Verna

The motion carries. Council will now reconsider the vote by which Bill No. 040012 was passed. will please read the title of the bill. THE

Chief Clerk

An ordinance amending Chapter 19-2600 of The Philadelphia Code entitled "Business Privilege Taxes" by amending the definition of net income to determine the net income of unincorporated businesses by allow deductions of payments to certain proprietors or partners.

Council President Verna

The Chief Clerk will please call the roll. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman DiCicco.

Councilman Dicicco

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

The nays are 7, the ayes are 10. The override fails.

Council President Verna

Two-thirds majority of the Members of Council having not voted in the affirmative, the Mayor's veto is sustained. The Council will now proceed under a special of order of business to the reconsideration of Bill No. 040022. This bill was also passed by the Council at its May 31, 2004 Session and was returned disapproved by the Mayor to today's Session of Council. At this time, the Chair recognizes Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Thank you, Madam President. Madam President, I move that Council reconsider Bill No. 040022 which was approved by Council on may 31, 2004. (Duly seconded.)

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded. All in favor, let it be known by saying aye. (Aye.)

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (No response.)

Council President Verna

The ayes have it, the motion carries. Council will now reconsider the vote by which Bill No. 040022 -

Councilman Nutter

Madam President.

Council President Verna

Yes, sir.

Councilman Nutter

At the appropriate time, may I speak on the bill, please?

Council President Verna

Thank you. The motion carries. Council will reconsider the vote by which Bill No. 040022 was passed. And at this time, I recognize Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Thank you, Madam President. Madam President, on this particular bill I just wish to point out while it was not one of the items of legislation within the Tax Reform Commission's recommendations, this bill simply seeks to protect the property owners in Philadelphia. The Board of Revision of Taxes has announced that they'd like to change the system to assessing at 100 percent of value, which I'm certainly in agreement with. The concern is that taxpayers do not know at this time what the new millage rates will be and City Council obviously has to pass those new rates. This bill would seek to protect property owners from the system going to a hundred percent value without Council being involved in the process to then lower the rates to an appropriate level. And I would like to encourage my colleagues to support of the override on this particular bill in the interest of taxpayers and property owners. Thank you, Madam President.

Council President Verna

You're recognizes Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Madam President, again, in support of an override vote, I know the veto doesn't involve any money and it is premised on a technicality that the Solicitor advised that the Council does not have authority here. We have not seen an opinion. We have never been told this through the whole budget process. And I believe we, Council, should be on record that when and if the City goes to a hundred percent that it be revenue neutral that we not be making money on what is supposed to be and will be, hopefully, a fairer way of telling people how their house is being assessed and giving them enough information whether to decide whether to make an informed appeal. So I think that it will send a message not just to the public but specifically to the Board of Revision of Taxes that Council feels this strongly about this issue, whether it's done next year, the year after or whenever.

Council President Verna

Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

Thank you, Madam President. Madam President, I just want to concur. It is my understanding that at the public hearing and my belief because I think I heard Mr. Glancy indicated that he supported such a move on behalf of the property owners and would essentially delay implementation of the 100 percent assessment until Council was in a position to adjust its rates.

Council President Verna

Thank you. I would ask the Chief Clerk if she would please read the title of the bill that we're considering. THE

Chief Clerk

Bill No. 040022, an ordinance amending Chapter 19-1300 of The Philadelphia Code entitled "Real Estate Taxes" by providing that no change by the Board of Revision of Taxes to the ratios it uses to calculate assessed values shall be effective unless Council by ordinance adjust real estate that such change is revenue neutral or unless Council otherwise approve such change by ordinance, under certain terms and conditions.

Council President Verna

Thank you. Please call will the roll. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman DiCicco.

Councilman Dicicco

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. The ayes are 17, the nays are 0. The Mayor's veto is overridden. The Council will now proceed under a special order of business for the consideration of Bill No. 040255. This bill was passed by the Council at its May 31,2004 Session and was returned disapproved by the Mayor at today's Session. At this time the Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. I move that Council reconsider Bill No. 040255 which was approved by Council on May 31st. (Duly seconded.)

Council President Verna

All in favor, let it be known by saying aye. (Aye.)

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (No response.)

Council President Verna

The ayes have it. The motion carries. Council will vote by which Bill No. 040255 was passed. The Chief Clerk will please call the roll. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No.

Council President Verna

I'm sorry, Pat. You have to read the title. THE

Chief Clerk

Bill No. 040255, an ordinance adopting the Operating Budget for Fiscal Year 2005. Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman DiCicco.

Councilman Dicicco

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

The nays are 7, the ayes are 10. The override fails.

Council President Verna

Thank you. Council will now proceed under a special order of business to the reconsideration of Bill No. 040257. This bill was passed by Council at its may 31, 2004 Session and was returned disapproved by the Mayor to today's Council session. At this time the Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. I move that Council reconsider Bill No. 040257. (Duly seconded.)

Council President Verna

It has been moved and seconded. All in favor will say aye. (Aye.)

Council President Verna

Those opposed, nay. (No response.)

Council President Verna

The motion carries. Council will now reconsider the vote by which Bill No. 040257 was passed. The Chief Clerk will please read the title of the bill. THE

Chief Clerk

An ordinance to adopt a Capital Program for the six fiscal years 2005-2010 inclusive. Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman DiCicco.

Councilman Dicicco

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Nutter.

Councilman Nutter

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds Brown

No. THE

Chief Clerk

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Chief Clerk

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. THE

Chief Clerk

The nays are 7, the ayes are 10. The override fails.