And that's why we've been on the block for the last, you know, 11, 12, 13 years now, I guess.
Time flies by.
So that's kind of what I would lean back on.
And the affordability, you know, the councilwoman's office isn't opposing this project.
But Haverford Avenue has always been a multifamily, an RM1 zoned corridor.
There are other streets in Mantua where, yeah, the whole array of blocks have been rezoned to single-family use.
Haverford Avenue is not one of those streets.
Thank you. I just have one other question.
Mr. Black, I believe in his testimony, and correct me if I'm wrong, stated that 3836 Haverford, this board approved six dwelling units in the past.
No, 3936 Harford Avenue in February of 2018 approved seven units, and that's pretty much an identical layout that we're seeking for 3836.
The only difference being 3836 has an alley, it doesn't stand the entire width of the lot, whereas 3936 does.
Understood, thank you.
And just to be clear, the only variance we're seeking for the 3900 block of Haverford Avenue is a use variance.
The entire rest of the building is compliant with the code.
So this is the least variance that we can ask for.
Understood.
As it relates to trash, do you have commercial?
Yeah, so we do.
So we contract with Gold Medal that picks up trash in our property at 601 North 39th Street, which is the corner of 39th and Haverford.
and that's what we intend to do with these projects as well once they're
occupied up until this point we've been utilized as a single-family house even
Up until this point, they've been utilized as a single family house, even though the number of people that have lived in there are much more than the number of units that are going to be here.
though the number of people
So the trash that they had would always overflow onto the street and it would be a city pickup.
In this case, it's private pickup three times a week.
Thank you again.
All right.
I did ask the board.
Anybody have any questions again?
Yes, Mr. Chairman.
i think i think that the developer should start filling out the form the required form by city
planning for a low density housing bonus he doesn't have that so that form requires us to
have a uh a 50-year deed restriction on the property and because of that deed restriction
we cannot get funding for the for the properties or we have to pay sixty thousand dollars if we
pay $60,000, we can't make the units affordable. Other developers get that form filled out?
Well, they probably pay the $60,000 to buy it out, and they don't make the units affordable.
I don't think you're correct.
Planning Commission, I guess, would they be able to share some light on that?
Yeah, can the Planning Commission weigh in on this?
I de facto, again, City Planning Commission, I don't have those numbers in front of me.
We'd have to get a report to the board.
It's usually $30,000 per additional unit that we would see.
So we can, in theory, bypass getting a variance by paying $60,000 to the city.
But in turn, the city won't have the benefit of having affordable housing, which we've provided for over a decade to this community.
And just to relay, the 32-unit building across the street, none of it is affordable.
Those are $1,500 a month, one-bedroom apartments.
Ours are $875 to $1075, and they go up in floors.
So $875 first floor, $975 second floor, $1075 third floor.
I don't think you're correct, but please, in the future, come with the form.
are there any revised plans mr consul uh yes we have we have one set of revised plans that we need
to submit the uh for 38 36 however for them for 38 36 however one page excuse me mr consul have
you submitted the form and the plan to me no i only i got the forms a little while ago i'll
submit both of those to you um okay it won't be able to be voted until you do that's that's fine
but we'll do the others we can do the others correct yes um mr council can you get it to us
by the end of the day i can yeah okay so maybe vote that one property at the 3 30 session
yeah if you get that material to uh mitchelletta we'll do that the 3 30 session okay okay uh
MI 2020-002-565-3920-Frankford Avenue MI 2020 Haverford What did I say?
Frankfurt. Did I really? You really did. Let me start over again.
20 MI 2020-002-565-3920 Haverford Avenue. MI 2020-002579-3930 Haverford Avenue.
MI 2020-002564-3918 Haverford Avenue
MI 2020-003143-3926 Haverford Avenue
and MI 2020-002943-813 North 40th Street
My vote is yes on all that I just read into the record
okay my vote is yes on all cases
oh let me add something on all of those um with the proviso commercial trash pickup on all
cases that were just read into the record understood my vote is yes with proviso
yes with proviso
my vote is no
Calendar number 2575, 4237-45 Walnut Street.
Carol, did you get that text message from Sharon about Jen?
do you want me to hear that before this one uh yeah why don't we do that and uh is it okay
Do you want me to hear that before this one?
though sharon and since it's on the 3 30 list i mean it's it's after 3 30 so okay i didn't know
but if i had to do the uh okay we'll go forward with it all right mr just give us a minute
mr jen has a 5 30 rco meeting so we want to get him out of here calendar number zero four four
9, 2218 North
Marshall Street.
Mr. Jin?
Mr. Jin, you can promote it to panelists.
You can speak. Hi, can you
put your name and address on the record, please, and
spell your last name? Yes.
Zen Jin, Z-H-E-N, J-I-N,
1617 John F. Kennedy
Boulevard, Suite 1838,
Philadelphia, PA, 19103.
And do you swear?
Before you go any further, I just, I don't, I may
have been muted i just want to let mr patterson know uh at the request of mr jen he has a 5 30
rco meeting that's why we're taking his case out of order that's fine thank you i appreciate the
accommodation do you swear or affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do do you
also agree to waive and stip i do have you emailed the exhibit packet with proof of ownership tax
compliance refusal referral photos plans of the property five days in advance of this hearing have
met with the RCO and do you have a letter? Yes to all questions. Thank you, you may proceed. Thank
you. I'm going to share with the board the information relating to this case. This is an
application to use a property that is currently zoned CMX as a residential only. I have submitted
the refusal, community letter, photos, plans, tax clearance, and related documentation ahead of time.
For the board's reference, this is not the only property we've done in this area.
I don't know if the board recall, we did a larger property where the city council office
worked a commercial unit out with us.
In return for that, these other smaller lots, when we requested for just residential to
waive the commercial space, the council president's office is not objecting to that request.
West. The APM RCO also realized that because the area is very vacant and no neighbors really came
to give feedback, they took no position in particular on this as well. As you can see from
the photograph here, this is Marshall Street and it is off on the corner of Germantown and it is
not really an active corridor of any sort at this point. Residential properties being placed here
makes sense as on 8th street and what is existing right now there are many development that's being
put in mostly as commercial we are however going to see at least one commercial space somewhere
on north 8th street but with a much bigger development but this one is a single row home
sized lot in this case we're proposing to simply have the first floor unit also be a residential
unit this would make it total of three units as the other two would be by right according to the
code in the design it is going to be first floor being a rather large unit with the basement and
then second floor and third floor each is a smaller unit none of these are going to be heavily set
up to be heavily dense these are relatively simple units from a design standpoint we have
again received no objection from the neighbors or the community and we would ask the board for
favorable review of this application i would be happy to answer any questions from the board
is there any questions
I'm sorry can the board hear me
yes I have no questions
thank you my client is here it's Mr. Joseph Gitterman
if the board would like him to affirm my testimony.
I'm only able to hear the chairman.
I don't know if he's trying to speak.
Yes, how are you?
You can unmute yourself and speak.
Yes, how are you?
Hi, Joseph, how are you?
Please be chair.
We can't hear you if you are speaking.
I'm speaking.
Yes, how are you?
Not you, Joseph.
of the chairman.
I think he's going to go out and come back in.
That's what it looks like.
I'm back.
i'm back can you hear me now yes all right please mr gitterman i believe you're already
Can you hear me now?
All right.
Please, Mr. Gitteman, I believe.
still under oath from earlier yes i did okay mr jen thank you mr gitterman you heard my testimony
before the zoning board and my representations relating to the case can you verify that it's
true and correct and adopt the testimony as your own yes i do thank you okay questions from the board
did we lose the planning commission
i believe we have um lost uh mr effecto he will be logging out and coming back in
Oh, there's Ron.
Excuse me, Ron.
We can't hear you.
Good afternoon.
Nicole Ozdemir with the Planning Commission staff. My last name is O-Z-D-E-M-I-R.
Chair.
um you're chairman you're muted
mr chair i'm sorry we can't hear you again
can you hear me now yes yes i'm sorry i've been having problems okay nicole yes please identify
yourself your record spell your name and i'll swear you in sure nicole ozdemir from the planning
commission staff n-i-c-o-l-e last name is o-z-d-e-m-i-r thank you swear and affirm to tell
the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do please proceed thank you uh while this property
is indicated for commercial mixed use on the comprehensive plan giving the existing neighborhood
context we have no objection to the granting of the variants. Thank you very much MI 2020-000449
2218 North Marshall Street my vote is yes. My vote is yes.
My vote is yes.
is carol there
yes my vote is yes i was muted no problem then you can call the next case thank you
calendar number 2575 4237 45-45 walnut street
Mr. Patterson?
Yes, ma'am.
Okay. Wow.
Sir, can you please put your name and address on the record?
Sure. Ronald Patterson, Claire Harrison Law Firm, 1835 Market Street, Philadelphia EPA 19103.
Do you swear a firm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
Do you also agree to waive and stip?
I would waive. I can't agree to stipulate because there's a deficiency.
okay have you emailed an exhibit packet with proof of ownership tax compliance refusal referral
photos and plans five days of the property five days in advance of this hearing and have you met
with the rco and do you have a letter uh yes to all of the above okay you may proceed thank you
you can see my screen i take it uh yes with the cars and the buildings yes yes so uh this is uh
this regards a 4237 Walnut Street. It's near the corner of 43rd Street. This is a picture
of the existing conditions. This is the building that's at issue. The property is located on a block
The property is located on a block of Walnut Street that really is, here's a zoning map over here, it's a RM1 zoning district, but the fact is that that building, as you saw, was a commercial building.
There's been commercial uses there since the building was built. The last use that just vacated was a medical health facility.
It was Health Springs that was there since 2010.
Before that, it was a Rite Aid that was there for many years.
I'm going to put up the zoning plan now.
Here's an indication of the property.
Here's the building, sufficient ample parking in the rear.
So the application, it's an R&1 residential district, as I mentioned.
The application is two things.
One is the use, which we're proposing, is Sherwin-Williams paint store.
So the use is described as the retail sales of building supplies, equipment, paint, wallpaper, and related supplies.
The use was not listed as a use refusal on the refusal,