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ZBA Hearing - January 13, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 13, 20215h 27m

When was it required to be posted?

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21 days in advance, which would have been the 13th and 23rd, I believe.

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Okay. So we haven't seen any postings at all.

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It was posted, Mr. Chairman. You see the photos that we took when we posted it.

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And the other thing is, Mr. Gervasio is here.

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So, I mean, the goal of the posting is for people to get notice and to be able to appear and testify, and he is appearing and testifying.

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Yeah, that's what I asked the prior witness, the same question, basically.

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How did they know about today?

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okay all right sir thank you anyone else would like to testify in this case please raise your

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hand something new and different that would be helpful here we have a Ross Faber

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Mr. Faber you can speak now morning Mr. Faber please spell your name give us your name and

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address please spell your last name hi uh good morning everybody um you know just like to thank

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everybody for giving me an opportunity to state my testimony. Again, my name is Ross Faber. Last

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name is spelled F as in Frank, A, B as in boy, E-R. And I'm a resident at 610 Dudley Street.

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That's here at 19148, obviously. Do you swear and affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth,

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and nothing but the truth? Yes, I do, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Please proceed.

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Great. Yeah, so I just wanted to take an opportunity. I am fully in support of the multifamily units that Mr. Lasky has planned here. As a resident of the community, I think it benefits us, you know, on several different levels. So I'd like to take an opportunity to address a few things.

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First, and this is something that I wanted to speak to as I kind of thought of it as listening to the previous two testimonies, you know, in regards to parking.

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I live here in the neighborhood, and I got to say, parking is really not that bad.

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Nine out of ten times, I park in the spot in front of my house.

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I'm using a car four, five times a week, so I think that that's pretty good.

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And then on the off chance that I'm not able to park directly in front of my house or on my block, I'm parking within a one block radius of my home.

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Before I lived here on Dudley Street, I also lived at 9th and McKean for a while.

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So a little bit further away from where the proposed listing is, but still within the neighborhood.

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And that same, you know, that same experience applies there.

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Parking, you know, has never been a true issue for my wife and I here at.

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you know, has never been a true issue for my wife and I here at in the neighborhood. So I just kind

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Bye.

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of wanted to take, you know, the opportunity to address that. And I also think, you know, parking

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somewhat to be expected, if you are having challenges with it, this is city living. And I

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know, you know, it's, you know, an inconvenience when, you know, parking can become a hassle if it

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does. But that is, I kind of think a little bit of the shtick of, you know, all of the other

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conveniences of living in the city. So again, wanted to take an opportunity to address that

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from a parking standpoint. You know, and also I think a possible solution there or something to

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help alleviate it, you know, if I know my block specifically is not permitted with Philadelphia

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Parking Authority, but certainly residents do have the opportunity to petition and create that

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permit parking for a specific block should the residents of a block, you know, have a majority

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petitioned to create that. And that could greatly reduce the amount of transient parking in the

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area, which should help alleviate some of that congestion or issues, you know, if other residents

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of the neighborhood are experiencing issues with that. So again, that kind of addresses my thoughts

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around parking there. Also wanted to take an opportunity to address just the nature of vacant

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lots in the neighborhood. I think that this is something whether you are for or against, you know,

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Mr. Lasky's plans here, vacant lots are attracting crime in the neighborhood. I witnessed,

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you know, on several occasions, you know, drug use in vacant lots, an extreme collection of trash

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and, and not just, you know, paper items or, you know, like normal garbage items. We're talking

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about TVs, mattresses, you know, other large, you know, kind of appliance nature things. It's just

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a real eyesore in the neighborhood. And any sort of development on these vacant lots is going to

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help to, I believe, reduce, you know, the crime activity that is happening in these vacant lots

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because, I mean, they're easy to kind of submerge yourself and kind of remove yourself from, you

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know, kind of the public view of people walking by. Also should help to just clean the neighborhood

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up, you know, which I think is something I think all Philadelphia residents would be interested in

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it's just getting cleaner neighborhoods. You know, and with that, you know, these are for sale

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condo units, they are not, they're not rentals. So to me, that translates into long term permanent

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residents in the neighborhood that are going to care about their community, more than maybe,

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you know, a rental property might or, you know, just gets more people involved in planning for

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a better tomorrow within our community. So all on board, you know, with that, you know, and as

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they become for sale, you know, I'm not sure how they stand with the tax abatement. But that's

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certainly something that piques, you know, my interest as well, you know, in a long term,

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you know, view, this city needs more residents that are going to become permanent residents that

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are not, you know, not renting their homeowners, they have an investment in the city. And I know

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with an abatement um the tax uh you know base kind of stays low um you know until some of those

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start to phase out um but when we look out on a longer term horizon um as these tax abatements are

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expiring um the city will generate more tax base which should help um you know address some of the

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issues with our streets um with some you know maybe trash collection issues and you know some

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other things happening that i'm sure are a great concern for all of us um you know in the community

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so um you know again that's on more of a long-term horizon um but trying to to keep some of that view

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as well, because I think that that helps us all keep our intention, you know, a little bit more

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pure, you know, when you think about what is really, you know, what is really good for this

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area. Also, Mr. Matt, you know, you know, kind of mentioned this, and I would like to echo that as

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well. The density that multifamily units create in this city, you know, extremely important as

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we think about supporting the local small businesses in our vibrant community, you know,

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tons of local family owned. Mr. Faber, I, I apologize for interrupting you. I appreciate

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your testimony. We have a number of other cases. I just have a question for you. Yes. Did you see

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any postings for the meetings? You know, I'll be honest with you, chairman. I work from home.

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And the only time I really leave is to go drive to the grocery store. I'm not really I haven't

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really in the recently been out walking through the neighborhood so the answer would be no but

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that's not to say that they are not out there i just okay that that's helpful thank you okay

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and uh okay thank you uh anyone else something new and different please um here we have a tyler lane

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mr lane you can unmute yourself and speak uh hello good morning mr lane please identify

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yourself with a record name and address yep good morning uh name is tyler t-y-l-e-r last name lane

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Yep. Good morning. Name is Tyler, T-Y-L-E-R, last name Lane, L-A-N-E. Address is 608 Hoffman Street, Philadelphia, P.A.

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Yep.

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Swearing, affirm, to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

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Swearing, swearing, affirm. And Mr. Faber, you know, he hit a lot of the points I was going to kind of reference here.

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but you know just to reiterate what he said it's a huge concern in the neighborhood just with the

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amount of trash regarding the vacant lots they're incredibly poorly maintained he's spot on that

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there's drug use in them transit people walk through all the time I see them disappear into

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the vacant lots who knows what they're doing I've heard of people going into vacant lots then they

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go to the house next door and break in through the backyard it's just it's a mess so the more

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this neighborhood can move forward progress bring new people in that's what makes a neighborhood

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great right you want different kinds of people um and uh that's just better for everyone so i don't

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really see any harm to a long-term vacant lot being developed it's condos so it's going to be

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people who are invested in the neighborhood um it's going to reduce crime uh in that immediate

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area. And to the point of parking, I totally agree with what the gentleman before said.

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My view is you live in a city. I mean, if you're so concerned about parking, you know, there's a

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great state called Delaware where you can park wherever you want with no trouble. So, you know,

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move out of the city if it's that big of a concern. I don't get it. It's South Philadelphia.

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It's not about parking. It's not the place to live if that's all you care about. So I just

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wanted to add you know it was most understood i've lived here 75 years so i'm very familiar with that

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okay anyone else like to testify something new and different please share we have a stacy harper

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please identify yourself first and last name and address oh can you hear me

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yes ma'am hello my name is stacy harper s-t-a-c-e-y h-a-r-p-e-r and i reside at 528

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dudley street you swear and affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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yes i do please proceed yes my main concern is i've been here for 20 years and it's really hard

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to believe that within Hoffman Street and Dudley Street there's never anywhere to park but I guess

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everybody has their own opinion but sir like I said I've been here for 20 years my main concern is

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I've seen parking wars I understand that trying to beautify the neighborhood and I'm all for

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getting these lots together and you know you understand what I'm saying sir and doing certain

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things for us but it's it's a congestion and it's i've seen wars and i've seen it go like

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almost to a deadly point like that's just my major concern it it is a problem and it's scary

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so that's basically what i wanted to say also not knowing about these meetings i just found out on

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last night about this meeting from uh block captain and i'm also the co-captain and that's

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basically what I wanted to say, sir. Thank you for your time. Thank you. I think we're going to

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have to move on. Appreciate everyone's testimony. Questions from the board? No. Yes. Yes, Mr. Chairman.

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Counselor, do you have any reason why the RCO took no position?

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i didn't hear you breaking up a little bit why did the rco took no position i don't know why

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mr holland because it was a 13 to 1 vote in support of the people that came that night

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they have their letter of explanation which i can pull up um in a second um but they just took no

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position, despite the overwhelming number of people

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who came out in a pouring torrential downpour to come to the meeting.

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So I don't have

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any explanation beyond. This is their letter. Let me

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and they talk about

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could you summarize

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They talk about presenting the plans in the neighborhood.

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They talk about presenting the plans, and the neighborhood suffered.

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They seem like the RCO itself, and not the people who attended the meeting, but the RCO people don't want to have a multifamily structure there.

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That's the RCO, but as you can tell and see, the people who showed up, 13 people showed up,

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14 people showed up, and it was 13 to 1 in support.

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I mean, so it was, the RCO said they did not come to agreement on the appeals.

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The committee needs further assurance that affordable condo construction is really what will occur.

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I mean, short of Mr. Lassie testifying as he did, saying that that's what he's going to do,

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um um yeah i don't know what else we we could tell them in terms of um you know this would be

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a he specifically said this would be a a condominium for sale unit building as they as

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they requested not that that's a zoning issue because it's not but um yeah and he explained

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and everybody there who came out that night supported the uh the application so

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So they didn't really, they just took no position.

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They didn't oppose it.

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They just took no position with respect to it, despite the overwhelming people.

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They did make a point of eight of the people happened to be renters and not owners,

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but I don't know that you can make a distinction between somebody who rents

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and somebody who owns.

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I don't think that's a proper distinction to make either.

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So, again, there is no, they had some concern about developers developing multifamily structures in the community, but they did not come out and say they opposed it either.

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They just took no position.

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So, again, it was supported by the overwhelming number of people that came out that night.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Sure.

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Sorry.

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Excuse me.

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This is Sharon Saleta.

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Can I ask a question?

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um Mr. Mattione are you saying that there are going to be three units in each structure

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I want to clarify that make it clear in 1915 on the corner there's three units

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1917 we had a mess up it is two units that's what the plans show that's what it is

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1915 is three units 1917 one in the reason for less density is because it's not on the corner

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it's two years I want to make that clear so we're all on the same page okay I just wanted to point

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out that there's a discrepancy with the refusal um the refusal for 1915 refers to four units not

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three three units okay so if the board were to approve it it would be with a proviso maximum

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of three units just to clarify i had i had the same question earlier yeah yeah all right thanks

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for clearing it up thanks sharon uh planning commission

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good morning members of the board mr chair ian hegarty philadelphia city planning commission

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this property is indicated for single family use in the comprehensive plan

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during a neighborhood ride wide rezoning in 2019 the property was rezoned to rsa5

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indicating an intentional decision to retain single family use in the vicinity on this block

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We believe that a variance is actually not necessary to enable viable economic use of

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the property, and that this is evidenced by a recently constructed single-family building

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at 1921 South 5th Street.

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At the very least, we believe that the proposed variance does not represent the minimum variance

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that would afford relief.

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And so accordingly, we recommend that the variance be granted, but with the condition

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that each property contain no more than two dwelling units.

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thank you uh

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mi 2020 that's zero zero one nine six zero one nine one five south fifth street my vote is yes

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uh with the proviso maximum three units and mi 2020 that's zero zero one eight six nine

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1917 South 5th street my vote is yes with a proviso maximum two units

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my vote is yes with proviso on both cases yes with proviso to both yes with proviso

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on both cases yes with proviso to both cases thank you Mr. Chairman

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Thank you. Calendar number 0644-2033, East Wishart Street.

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There's no heads up at this time, Chair.

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I have a feeling we're going to say that. All right. Has this case already been continued?

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I have a feeling we want to say that. All right. Has this case already been continued?

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Yes, it has. Okay. MI 2020-000644-2033 East Wishart Street. My vote is to dismiss.

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My vote is to dismiss. Dismiss. Dismiss. Dismiss.

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so we are going to number 10 number 13

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number 13 calendar number 0547 3761 glenn street

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and this is one i have no exhibits and it was previously listed on august 5th and october

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13th. No hands are up. There are no hands up at this time, Chair. Thank you. MI 2020-000-547-3761

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Glen Street. My vote is to dismiss. My vote is to dismiss. Dismiss. Dismiss. Dismiss.

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Calendar number 0256-4827 North 7th Street.

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i have no record of having received exhibits and it was previously listed on october 7th

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yep no hands up at this time chair and if you look at the appellant in this case as was two

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cases prior and many other cases it's always the same all right mi 2020 that's 000256

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4827 North 7th Street. My vote is to dismiss. My vote is to dismiss. Dismiss. Dismiss. Dismiss.

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Thank you. Number 16, Carol. Okay. Calendar number

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1-9-4-6-5-2-18 Florence Avenue.

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I received an email this morning from Andrew Goodman of Councilwoman Gauthier's office saying

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that the councilwoman has no objection thank you chair we have rachel pritzker here good morning

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