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ZBA Hearing - February 25, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 25, 20265h 35m

this is 18th street up above cumberland street um and hunter den

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and here's the refusal the application is for a variance for a duplex two-family dwelling

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it is zoned RSA 5 presently this is the deed as I stated earlier the owner is the

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This is the deed. As I stated earlier, the owner is the estate of Henry Naylor. And this is a 1998 deed. This property was a subject of litigation after Mr. Naylor, who was the prior owner, passed away. And it sat for many, many years after being deeded to the estate itself.

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this is a photo of the facades let me flip this here we go sorry this was a color photo it's

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scanned in black and white um but you get the idea where we 2532 is this property in the middle and

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to give you a little bit of history uh i i am an attorney i've been before the board many times i

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also uh do renovate and manage rental properties and my experience with this property 2532 started

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next door 2530 where the llc i was involved with was involved with renovating this it was a fire

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damaged property because uh starting in 2017 um i became involved with uh finding distressed

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properties in in somewhat blighted and distressed areas and and bringing uh homes back to these

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blocks um obtaining renovating and managing properties that otherwise might be uh continue

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to be vacant or ultimately be demolished we were renovating 25 30 next door when our basement kept

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flooding and we looked next door and we found and this was one of the first properties so

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uh i was naive at the time i never really looked next door but we we come to find next door um let

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flip this photo so we it's kind of confusing to see the perspective this is a photo i'm taking

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this photo i'm standing you can see the banister here i'm standing at the top of the steps on the

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second floor this is the second floor it's collapsed in let me move to the next photo

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and sorry let me orient this one because what's up is down okay so this is me standing in the same

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place let me reduce this a little bit all right so this is me standing in the same place there's

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the front window on the second floor i'm looking up to the roof so the roof of this property was

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collapsed now we know why the basement was flooding and the second floor was collapsed into the first

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floor this is a photo of 2532 back this is back in 2018. this is the roof on on the top side of

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roof there's not supposed to be a hole there right uh so this whole roof since 98 there was like i

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said there was litigation over this property relatives were fighting for some reason and then

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they did nothing and the uh property sat for for 20 years or so and um it essentially collapsed in

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on itself uh being the next being next door and renovating the property next door um i reached

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out to the owner at that time in the state of henry nailer who had a uh administrator at the

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time named annette phillips and i you know voiced my concerns i hope they make repairs

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uh we didn't get anywhere no repairs were done so what i did um was employee act 135 and i was

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appointed the or i should say the llc i was involved with was appointed as the conservator

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of this next-door property, and I had established standing as a conservator since I was involved

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with 2530 next door. You see this is the order we're looking at August 31st, 2018, where the

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address is 2532 North 18th Street. The petition is granted, and the LLC I'm involved with, Philly

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Deeds, is appointed the conservator. And here you see in paragraph four, the court orders us to

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make obtain a make safe permit replace the roof remove the debris and foliage and clean out the

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interior so we did set upon doing that here's a photo of uh the roof where all those roof joists

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had to be replaced um and this is the underside of the new roof this is the top of the new roof no

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more holes um and that's the uh let me flip that apologize and there's so now you can see now the

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second floor all that collapsed debris has been removed and the property's stabilized and no longer

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flooding the neighbor's uh properties and it's a stabilized property at that point but still

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vacant here's the second floor you can still see floorboards and some some of these joists are still

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still rotted in nature but it was stabilized and the hope at that point back in 2018 when we

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stabilized it and reduced the blight was to renovate this property as well and the way we

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renovate this property as well and the way we do that usually is to seek bank bank financing um

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do that usually is to seek bank

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and i want to i want to uh at that at that time bank financing so so mr weiss let me you know

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would be easier if i understand this so you did the place next door after a fire correct right

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did you create a duplex there that's a single family there was fighting that was a single

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family and you're requesting a duplex here correct because okay yes thank you at the time

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financing wasn't available because the values on this block hadn't really appreciated to the point

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where a bank would finance this one as a single family here's a photo of the rear um so we we set

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that aside we moved on to other photo I'm sorry other um properties and I'll show you some of the

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projects where we um kind of followed the same program where uh here's 5851 addison street where

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this was also structurally yeah i understand that but i think what we should do instead i think we

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should concentrate on the property you're talking about i understand all the work you've done but

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tell us about this property so the property sat in the meantime uh mr def Phillips the administrator

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passed away. So an administrator was substituted in Mr. Alex Palmer. Here's the decree appointing

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Mr. Alex Palmer as the administrator to the estate of Henry Naylor. And we're working with

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Mr. Palmer and the estate to bring this property back to occupy it, get some occupants in there

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on the block and save it from, continue saving it from demolition. Here's the plans we're

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proposing interest rates the market have not have not cooperated over the number of years that have

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passed and the financing still isn't there so the hardship on this block it was mentioned earlier

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by mr anastasio which was a property next nearby the 2200 block of 17th street this one's a little

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further north and a block over um where the uh there's a number of vacant properties there's a

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number of vacant lots. What we've done is propose a duplex with one-bedroom units, two of them.

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Here's the first floor. Here's the second floor. Similar, identical, I should say, layout where

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you have a good-sized living room, a good-sized kitchen. There's a door existing here in the

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kitchen. There's also that ever-present door in the rear on the first floor. And we are proposing

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one bedroom it's a huge bedroom this is is going to be a nice upscale unit this you can see the

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dimension here is about 11 and a half feet wide and this dimension here from the front of the

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kitchen to the bedroom is 25 feet but the bedroom occupies more than half so this bedroom is about

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12 or 13 feet deep with a closet so it's a good large bedroom with a comfortable bathroom

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um very nice kitchen with uh wraparound counters these will include trash storage and and trash

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cans there's also washer dryers posed in the units and uh this a lot of times we see this

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can be used as a office space here um no no living space in the basement no underpinning

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no excavation in the basement just two units one bedrooms where we have found over the properties

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we've renovated and managed.

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There's a great need for smaller units,

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one-bedroom units for single people,

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maybe a couple.

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So this brings a variety of housing stock

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to this area and gets this property

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back on its feet and occupied.

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Most of our longest-standing tenants

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are actually single folks

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that have been in these properties

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six, seven years.

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Here's the RCO.

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So, notice that was mailed to 220-some addresses.

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We did reach out to the neighbors on the block, and let me flip this, I'm sorry, and spoke

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to neighbors on the block of 18th Street, which did not oppose renovation to two apartments

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there.

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Most were happy that something would be done with this property.

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Here's the posted notices of today's hearing.

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this is the tax uh for this i don't know why the uh cert wasn't available but you can see here in

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the tax records where the taxes have been paid only taxes do where the 2026 balance is which

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the one that you redid for the fire is a single family home right correct the other side of this

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property what is that uh this property is um miss uh miss barbara smith who's a long time was that

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miss barbara smith who's a long time is that a single family home too she's a single family

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a single family home too she's

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yes so you have two single family homes and you're redoing this one and you want a duplex

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correct there's other duplexes continue okay um

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yeah uh there's just there's vacant vacant lots up the block and and uh this is what we were trying

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to avoid this this property being demolished here's the block faces um a couple uh parcels there and

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i just wanted to show this is the service of the if of the rsu notices if that's of interest

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but um

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the, yes, the various requests is for duplex, which, as I said, the hardship of this lot is

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the extensive repairs. Since the, many of the joists that are still there are rotted, have to

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be taken out. There is also some structural work that still needs to be done. So the extensive

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of work that's required to renovate this property and the financing that's available and the value

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of the property after it's done prohibits the financing to be to be issued and allow us to

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renovate it like we did next door. Interest rates have only increased and material prices have only

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gone up. But let's go back. You just said you want to renovate it like you did next door,

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but that's a single family home right well well next door had limited fire damage in the rear

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kitchen um this one has extensive damage throughout okay so right that's why so here's the fire

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damage in the kitchen at 25 30 and it only had a hole in the roof where the fire department cut in

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but the rest of it was good to go and so there was no structural work to do the the difference

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between 2530 and this one 2532 is that every structural member in this property is rotted and

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needs to be replaced and so you want to you want to do duplex because of financial reasons

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right the the hardship on the block is that the value uh to the value the ARV they say after repair

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value uh essentially the budget too all right so when I do this why don't why don't we let let a

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couple of our uh board members questions on the board

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hmm it's it he owns it all right he's the lawyer no but he's going to do it so i'm working with

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mr wise who do you work for right now is this your property yet so no it's it's it's the title

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owner is the estate of henry nailer all right is there anybody originally anyone that can adopt

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your testimony yes alex palmer is should be on the call okay he's the administrator of the estate

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that owns the property sure i i am the administrator of the state of henry nailer

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having been appointed by the register your name please and spell for the stenographer

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alexander palmer uh p-a-l-m-e-r do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing

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but the truth i do um yeah thank you mr palmer have you heard my testimony and is it true and

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accurate to the best of your knowledge it is yes and do you do you adopt it as your own for the

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record today I do all right questions from the board

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what's your plan for trash and where are the mechanical units yes uh the trash

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um let me find the plans so these are one bedroom units all the the cabinetry will include uh trash

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storage uh in the one in the first store unit uh we've done uh trash uh enclosures in the back in

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the second floor unit we can we can incorporate trash storage uh in the unit and i just we also

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include trash garbage garbage I'm sorry in this thing the garbage disposal thank you sorry

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which so a lot of the food waste will go down down the drain and not into the trash can so

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with one person maybe two people trash should be pretty limited but we'll incorporate storage

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either in the cabinets or in the utility closet as far as utilities there's a in the plan there

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was so we we we put the plan we there's there's a closet for washer dryer heat will be electric

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heat will be um electric uh many will be splits um and water heater will be uh on a on a uh in

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will be splits

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that closet problem uh up above so or it could be in the basement utility as well utility the

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the you said there would be what you're saying splits mini splits is that what you're proposing

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yeah that's that's uh that's we've done we've done splits which are efficient and and um take

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up very little room we also have the basement that can house utilities uh if we decide to go

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with uh heat pumps or um if if there's gas service that's needed other questions

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questions or comments from our attorney

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not at this time Mr. chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

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no handshare planning commission good morning Liz Fusilly on behalf of the Philadelphia City

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Planning Commission the comprehensive plan recommends no change from the RSA 5 zoning

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district the city changed the zoning to RSA 5 in 2014 in a city in a city council supported map

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change. There is no unique physical condition or circumstance of this property or a hardship

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exhibited to allow additional dwelling units. The City Planning Commission recommends the

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board deny the requested variance for two-family residential. MI 2025-005-130-2532 North 18th

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Street, I vote no. Michael Johns, my vote is no. Cheryl Gaston, my vote is no. Tanetta Graham,

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My vote is no. Ryan McAdams, my vote is no. I am in. My vote is no. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Moving on to number 12, MI 2025-005-261-7308, Caster Avenue. Isaac Slepner is the attorney.

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um mr chair we also have um an arabic interpreter um for this matter um i do need to clarify with

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mr slepner if the applicant wanted the entire matter interpreted or the interpreter is present

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so he can so the client can adopt and answer questions just bring the interpreter on

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um Arabic yes okay could the interpreter please come on too uh that's Salim Ammar

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what was the interpreter's name again Salim Ammar A-M-M-A-R

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Good morning, Mr. Chair and members of the board.

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Counsel, could you state your name and spell for this phonographer?

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Yes, my name is Isaac Slepner.

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First name Isaac, I as in India, S as in Sam, double A as in Alpha, C as in Charlie.

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last name slepner s as in sam l as in larry e as in elvis p as in peter n as in norman e as in

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elvis r as in robert do you swear referring to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the

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truth yes i do trying to get on the uh the interpreter he's right there you sir yep

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interpreter could you please state your name is spelled for the stenographer

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my name is salim amar which spells s as in sam could you you're gonna have to raise your voice

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little bit okay sorry about that so my name is salim amar spells s as in sam a is an apple

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l is larry i is an image m is in mary salim my last name is amar which is a is an apple m is in

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mary m is in mary a is an apple r is in romeo amar right do you swear do you swear affirm that you

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will interpret accurately and completely and partially from english to arabic and from arabic

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the english to the best of your ability i do thank you counsel you want to proceed sure um good

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morning uh mr chair members of the board i represent jamal awad who is the owner of 7308

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castor avenue and i'm going to go ahead could you just give him a few questions hold on one more

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minute good morning um have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance of

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this hearing i have um except for the tax information uh which i did submit yesterday

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because i had to i had a little bit of a back and forth with um hillary emerson on that but they

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have all been submitted okay yep we received them and do you waive the reading of the refusal and

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stipulate to its accuracy yes i do all right thank you you can share your screen and proceed

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all right thank you you can show your screen and proceed and mr slepner um i knew you had requested

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And Mr. Slepner, I know you had requested a

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the interpreter for your client um does your client want the entire proceeding

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um translated or did you want the interpreter so that he could adopt your testimony and answer

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questions i will ask my client to adopt my testimony and answer questions um that was

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yeah that was the kind of the purpose behind the interpreter okay all right thank you for

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clarification so i guess i'll have to go a little slower but that's okay if if if your client would

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like the the entire proceedings interpreted we can do that and you would just yes break it

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break it into chunks okay well let's bring your client on let's bring yeah let's let's bring on

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um uh mr awad are you out there why let the interpreter could you look for him please

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and mr marf you can just keep uh keep your volume up as much as possible so we want to make sure

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we can we can hear you and and the stenographer as well thank you okay i will just uh call back

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your client said i would i see him in the virtual audience jamal awad

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can we try to promote him to panelists and see if he'll accept yeah go ahead

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hello hello hello can you hear us

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