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ZBA Hearing - May 28, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 28, 20257h 56m

let me make this smaller so that can be visible all right so again here's the exterior elevation

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which we looked at from the cover sheet in the exterior we're looking as you can see the materials

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are the same sorts of materials that are already on the in the existing housing stock around the

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in the neighborhood as far as red brick on the front and siding along on the sides we're looking

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these properties will be mirror image except in reverse as you can see the entry doors are going

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be on the opposite sides and the one curb cut for the driveways will be here in the center rather

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than on the side as it currently is and let's look at what the plans show suggest as to the layout

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so here let me make this a little smaller just to get it all in a single screen all right here we are

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and so entering from the first from the first floor and again both sets can we make that just

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a little bit bigger you want to go bigger sorry sorry i'll go back i'll go back to the 50. that'll

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be work not not that big but maybe a little bit i only have well i have a choice of 25 or 50.

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well i think let's try let's see let's tell me tell me how this is uh is this will this work

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i can i can make it a little let me see if i can make a little smaller

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oh well hold on that's not it's not how how's that

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How's that? Is that okay? Thumbs up. All right. So from the first floor, from the street level,

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you see there's an entry door that walks into the property here. There's also the curb cut

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for the garage, a single car garage entering into the property. There's a common stairway

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that will reach all the way to the roof deck. This is really beautifully designed the way it is

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because this this stairway will wrap around and go all the way up to the roof deck and so that's

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that's right here in the center as you walk in on from the bay on the the ground floor level there's

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just mechanicals a closet and then there's flex space and a bathroom here on the first floor

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walking out to the back um is there's a patio but on the second floor as you come up the steps the

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power rooms greet you at the top of the steps you have to the as you get to the top of the steps

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to your right there's the kitchen and the rear deck looking straight out and then on the towards

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your left you have living room in the front in the dining room dining room living room area

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looking at you there as you go up to the next floor which is the third floor it's split between

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bathrooms in the front and the bedrooms in the back with bathrooms sort of in the center for the

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top of the steps for bedroom the back bedroom and the first in the front bedroom is sort of a suite

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it's got the bathroom already enclosed within is in addition to a you know

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closets neither neither have walk-in closets but they have both have double

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closets so it's very attractive layout for the first two bedrooms of the

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property as you go up to the top floor the third floor I should say and beyond

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well fourth floor based on the plans here you have the entire top floor is

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like a master suite so you come in and you have the bedroom with a front deck

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which is a very attractive feature to have there and then walk-in closet deep

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and long walk-in closet with a bathroom in the so the entire top floor is a

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single bedroom suite and that suite also allows you to continue up to the

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pilot house and you can see here this is where that one refusal for the pilot

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house comes into play on the roof deck and that's here is that you have the

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pilot house is inclusive of a covered countertop and refrigerator. So as you get into it, you have

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this little bit of a space before you go outside. And that's what makes that refusal. And because

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the width of the stairs is the same all the way up, it makes it attractive because there's that

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visual. If the steps were smaller going on the top floor, it would be just a less attractive

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design model. So because you have the wider steps going all the way up and then the wider

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And then the wider pilot house to allow for the covered refrigerator and cabinet, that is what you're seeing here.

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pilot house to allow for the covered refrigerator and cabinet that

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And then you have a couple, just a few walls relating to that.

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And that is what the property will look like from a plan standpoint.

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And looking at it down from the top, you can see what I'm talking about.

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You walk out on either side, walking out from the roof deck, and you'll see that there's the steps open all the way to the bottom.

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the stairway that runs all the way down to the middle you can see light coming from the top

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going all the way down and then each each part each side will have a separated roof deck which

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wraps around to the back and you'll have a little bit of a visual on the front a little on the side

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just to walk and then a little space on the back side of the roof deck and that is the design of

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the property uh going down to the the mechanics of the um right herman street is a one-way coming

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this way coming south really as you move down herman street to get into the driveway you have

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you can drive right in going forward or you can come here and you reverse back in if it's safe to

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do so so in each way there's a there's a singular um entry or the radiant turn radius is sufficient

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to do either way and so that is how the driveway will be constructed and here was the if you look

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at it you can't tell as much here but the original curb cut was it was towards the end this little

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breezeway area of the of the lot and it's instead now moved to a two center driveway situation

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and that's what we've got as far as the driveway and going into let's go back to the regular size

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now uh so going back to the regular size for the last bit of our our talk together um on exhibit

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8, we did send our, you know, the 14303 notice to all the near neighbors. There were approximately

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137 of them in the affected area. Most of those areas or most of these, most of the people in the

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affected area are in single family home situations. This is the addresses and our certificates of

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mailing to those individuals. At the RCO meeting itself, we were glad to have, we were glad to

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have the um oh well this is just pictures of the posting of the zoning poster there but um and um

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and the um sorry the just tax certificate here but at the rco meeting was very well intended

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um we had everyone on the meeting had wonderful things to say about the property property they

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were looking forward to seeing a development happen there that was single family they loved

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the fact that our owners were gentlemen who grew up in the neighborhood and were bringing their

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talent back to the neighborhood and we're bringing the neighborhood back to a product

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that they that it needed and that is you know the single family development in that in offer

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herman street and in all the germantown so this is um i'd like to bring my clients on

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to adopt my test when you do that for the questions so if jimmy williams can be can

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be advanced to a participant we'll have him do that

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Well, we were joining as a panel shortly.

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Good afternoon, everybody.

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Hi.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Mr. Williams, can you hear me?

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Yes, I can hear you now.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Yes, my name is James Williams, J-A-M-E-S-W-I-L-L-I-A-M-S.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Yes, and Mr. Williams, have you been present during my testimony for you thus far?

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Yes, I have.

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And is everything I've said accurate and clear as to what you would say if you were testifying on behalf of yourself?

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Yes, yes, I have.

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is there anything further you think i should add or say to for the board's hearing relating to your

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projects no i mean you you've pretty much handled it all would you adopt my testimony as your own if

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you were testifying yes i would okay and i didn't want to say one thing and i did mention to the

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board that you and your and your co-developer partner grew up in the neighborhood perhaps

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you can say just briefly about about that and we can ask questions of the board right afterwards

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Yes, my partner, Kerry King, he's on the line as well. We both grew up in a neighborhood. He grew up right around the corner of Pastorius. I grew up on Washington Lane, right around the corner from Herman Street. So this project is very important to us because we've done other projects in the city of Philadelphia, but this is kind of our chance to go back to where we both came from.

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And, you know, we have been working with the community because initially we thought about a multifamily home, but we heard them out and we said this is what they asked us for, not to do multifamily, to do single family.

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to do single family so this is what we changed our ideas and our plans and have you know come

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So this is what we changed our ideas and our plans and have come together to.

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together to work with the neighborhood and do single family okay that's great well i appreciate

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that adding to that so with that i would like to last any questions from the board

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questions or comments from our attorney ryan mcsherry

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no chair questions or comments from the audience or the virtual audience

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yes chair i have a handout from charles richardson they will be promoted shortly

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excuse me they will be promoted shortly

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good afternoon again mr chair i could get mr richardson as usual you've been already sworn

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just state your name and start your presentation certainly mr chair charles richardson

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Office of Councilwoman Cindy Bass Room, 508 City Hall.

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The Councilwoman has no opposition to granting this variance.

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But one question that we do have is what about trash storage for that location?

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And there's two options for that.

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I can mention that or Mr. Williams can.

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But both garages can have the trash there or it can be placed behind the building in each of the respective sites outside.

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and it will be the choice of the owner which is they feel is is best but no trash will be visible

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from the front of the street before trash day very good thank you anyone else in the audience

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you're not seeing any further hands mr chair amy boy with the planning commission amy boid

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do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing with the truth

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i do please proceed the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the rsa three single

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family zoning at this location the minimum lot width for lots one and two and the minimum area

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for lots one and two are all within ten percent of the code's requirement under the city planning

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commission's internal policy these are considered minor variants and in keeping with the purpose and

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spirit of the zoning code the proposed side yard depth is within the range of side yard depth of

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existing semi-detached homes on this block base however the appellant has not shown that they

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cannot comply with the roof deck access structure, area, or height requirements of the zoning code.

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The Planning Commission recommends that the Board deny the proposed dimensional variance for roof deck

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access structure, area, and height, but grant all other dimensional variances for a lot with lot area

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and side yard gap. Mr. Thompson, as you have spoke with our attorney, we need to get a refusal from

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Corrected for you. Refuse. I understand. And what I'm going to try to do is we're going to hold this for next Wednesday on the 4th. Yes. And we'll vote at 2 p.m.

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OK, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Is there anyone who was in the 930 list whose case has not been called? OK, Miss Williams, we're finished.

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Thank you. So we're not seeing your hands, Mr. Chair. OK, welcome, everyone. We're going to start our 2 p.m. list.

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My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing this meeting.

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With me is our Vice Chair, Ismael Shahid.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our Board Member, Cheryl L. Gaston.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Board Member, Tanetta Graham.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our Board Member, Michael Johns.

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Is Michael here?

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Michael might be on a little bit later.

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And our Board Member, Taya Wynn.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Also here is our Attorney, Ryan McSherry, our Director of the Zoning Board, Ian Haggerty,

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and our board administrator, LaKeisha Dandy.

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Recording of this hearing will be posted on the ZBA website.

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By participating, you consent to be recorded.

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This is an in-person meeting with remote capabilities.

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Whether remote or in person, if you're called to speak,

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you must state and spell your name and then wait to be sworn in.

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Once you've been sworn in, please state your name each time before beginning your testimony.

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Any person may enter the appearance to become an interested party to a case.

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There are three ways.

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you can identify the case property address on your zoom webinar you can see a staff member or

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you can call the zba appearance line by the close of business tomorrow call 267-270-5548

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leave a message that includes your email address and the address of the property of the appeal case

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the following guidance is for our remote attendees when directed you must raise your

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virtual hand in order to be recognized to speak. Second, if you're called to testify, you'll be

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prompted to join as a panelist. Please accept the request and turn on your camera. Third, the webinar

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Q&A is for questions about the hearing. Do not time on cases in the Q&A. Fourth, if you're

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participating by phone, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute. For our in-person

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attendees please refrain from talking eating or drinking during the hearings verbal and

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Verbal and physical aggression will not be tolerated.

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physical aggression will not be tolerated restrooms are across from the elevator

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Restrooms are across from the elevators.

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A water fountain is just outside the room.

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When speaking on the record, you must speak directly into the microphone in order to be heard by all attendees and the court reporter.

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In the event of an emergency, please follow the directions given over the public address system or by staff.

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The main exit is through the double doors at the rear.

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The nearest stairwell is to the left.

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In case of an evacuation, the rally point is at Love Park, directly across Art Street.

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Please remain here so we can account for you.

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So let's look at our schedule for this afternoon.

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number two mi20 24 003 404 69 15 north broad street that case is continued to 9 10 25 at 2 p.m

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number three mi 2024 004 490 1318 west clearfield street that case is continued

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attorney moving party and number four mi 2024 004 7726 6049 market street that case is continued

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to 9 10 25 at 2 p.m number nine mi 2025 000 462 28 41 south franklin street that case has continued

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to 9 10 25 and number two mi 2025 00610 2216 to 40 north 9th street um uh council do you want to

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come forward for this are rick are it's online uh mr boston is the attorney here

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Mr. Bosnan has been promoted to panelists. He'll be coming back in shortly.

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Sure. Thank you.

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, members of the board.

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Good afternoon. Counsel, could you state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Yes, Mr. Chair. My name is Eric Bodzin, E-R-I-C-B-O-D-Z-I-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Mr. Boseman, we're going to continue this case until June 11th at 2 p.m.

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Thank you very much. Please extend our appreciation to the board and your staff.

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All right. Thank you very much. So that case, MI 2025-000610-2216-40 North 9th Street, is continued to June 11th at 2 p.m.

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Thank you.

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We're going to go to our add-on list for a minute.

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Number one, MI 2024, 005-526-406-208 Jefferson Street.

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I vote yes with proviso.

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Revised plans, one page, stamped by ZBA, May 28th, 2025.

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Tanetta Graham, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Ayah Wynn, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Thank you.

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Number two, MI 2024-004-884, 1806 North 21st Street.

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